Like it or Not: About MQM

[YAHYA87]

سلام ہے تمھارے جھوٹ پہ کہ اگر کوئی وال چاکنگ کرتا ہے تو اس کا ذاتی فعل ہے اگر کوئی ایم کیو ایم والا قتل کرتا ہے تو اس کا ذاتی فعل ہے اگر کوئی بوری میں لاش ڈالتا ہے تو اس کا ذاتی فعل ہے اور الطاف لندن میں بیٹھا کسی کو جواب دہ نہیں
بار بار امّت جسارت کا نام تو لیے جا رہے ہو لیکن اس تھریڈ میں جو دوسرے لینکس موجود ہیں ان سے کیوں بھاگ رہے ہو وہ بھی تو میں نے ہی پوسٹ کیے ہیں ؟ ہاں یہ اور بات ہے کہ میں لندن پوسٹ امّت اور جسارت کی خبروں کو بھی بلکل جھوٹ نہیں کہتا آخر کراچی میں رہ کر یہ لوگ بھی تم لوگوں کو کچھ ناں کچھ تو جانتے ہی ہوں گے
ٹی وی پروگرام میں انٹرویو کا سکرپٹ لکھ کر نہیں دیا جاتا مہمان کو جو کچھ وہ کہتا ہے اسے اس کی آزادی ہوتی ہے ورنہ یہ شوز اپنی مقبولیت ہی کھو دیتے اور میں پوچھتا ہوں کہ عمران اور جاوید والے معاملے میں ایم کیو ایم کب سے گھس گئی ؟ عمران خان نے اپنی کس تقریر میں کراچی کے فینز اور عوام کو برا بھلا کہا ؟ کوئی بیوقوف سے بیوقوف ترین کھلاڑی بھی اپنے شائقین کو برا بھلا نہیں کہتا ذرا لنک بھیجنا میں بھی تو جانوں حقیقت کیا ہے ؟
عمران خان کے گندے اعمال پہلے کہاں تھے اور پہلے وال چاکنگ کیوں نہ ہوئی؟ جیسے ہی اس نے لندن والے پیر کا جبّہ اٹھایا تو ایم کیو ایم کے ٹھگ حرکت میں آ گے اور غلیظ ترین زبان استمال کی جس کو رہ چلتی کراچی کی شریف عورتیں بھی پڑھتی رہیں اور ایم کیو ایم والوں کو شرم تک ناں آئ​

Kia app samajhtay hu k MQM k workers bettery say chal rahay hain aur unki koi personal life nahi hai????Bhai mera woh bhi Insaan hain apki aur meri tarhan unko bhi ghusa a sakta hai apnay leader say related batain sun k....Aur jahan tak baat hai Bori band lashoon aur dosri cheezon ki tu bhai us k baray mai yeh baat kahi ja chuki hai k INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY is say ziada aur kiya kaha ja sakta hai mujhay batao????Agar app ko itna hi shouq hai MQM ko khatam hotay dekhnay ka ya MQM ko apnay Gunahoon ki saza hotay dekhnay ka tu court ka darwaza khula hai aur Adlia bhi Azad hai jao case banao aur saza dilwao....
App k dusray thread k links ka jahan tak sawal hai tu pehlay tu bhai un mai koi sahi link post karo takay khool k dekh sakoon phir baat banay gi aur dosri baat yeh hai k jab mainay kaha k app is website pay kai links parhay hain khud search karlo tu ap ka jawab kia tha us sawal pay???usi tarhan kia app samajhtay hu k mera pass time hoga k mai aik aik link jo app dubara post karogay parh k dekh sakoon aur phir apna tajzia us pay daisakoon????
jahan tak app ki javaid aur Imran mai MQM k ghusnay ka sawal hai tu app zara ghaur say parho meri post mainay BARHA BARHA KARACHIITE use kia hai MQM nahi zara khud ghaor say parho app....Aur jahan tak Taqreeron mai Karachiite ko bura bhala kehnay ka taluq hai tu itna public hoker Karachiite k baray mai kehnay ki himat tu Imran k abu k under bhi nahi hu sakti mai actions ki baat kar raha hun...Imran Khan ka aik waqia barha mashoor huwa tha k usnay autograph lainay k liye anay walay aik larhkay ka hath toorh diya tha aur is k ilawa Karachi k fans k sath us tareqay say nahi paish aya jaisa woh Punjab aur KPK k fans k sath paish aya hu aur aik aur waqia jo mashoor tha aik test match mai Javaid Miandad us waqt k kisi record k qareeb pohancha huwa tha us waqt Imran Khan nay innings declare kardi thi halankay uski koi zaroorat bhi nahi thi...jaisa k kehtay hain "ACTION SPEAKS LAUDER THEN WORDS" Imran Khan chahay jitna bhi moo ki firing karlay magar insaan k under ki soch kabhi kabhar us ki harkatoon mai hi nazar a jati hai....

 

[Night-Hawk]

یحییٰ اب تم جھوٹ پر اتر آے ہو سارے لینکس چل رہے ہیں اور تم جواب نہیں دے رہے بلکہ ٹوپک سے ہٹ کر کبھی عمران خان کی ذات کو موزو بناتے ہو اور کبھی تمام کراچی والوں کو ایم کیو ایم والا کہتے ہو میں نے تمہیں کہا تھا کہ کونسا لنک نہیں چل رہا میں اس سے بھی بہتر لنک پوسٹ کروں گا لیکن تم گول کر گۓ

خیر میں اب بھی انتظار کر رہا ہوں پہلے صفحے پر جاؤ اور میری پوسٹ پر سارے لینکس کام کر رہے ہیں میں منتظر ہوں کسی بھی شکایت کے لیے

لیکن ایک بات بتا دوں ان کو رد کرنا تمھارے بس کی بات نہیں
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[Night-Hawk]

بہرحال عمران خان کے جاوید کے ساتھ معاملات کا ایم کیو ایم سے کوئی تعلق نہیں اور کبھی بھی تمام کراچی والوں پر ایم کیو ایم کا ٹھپا نہ لگانا اگر یہ لوگ ایک دوسرے کا احترام نہ کرتے تو پاکستان ورلڈ کپ نہ جیتتا​

 

[Mujtaba Zaidi]

Reply posted by me above is based on facts, there is nothing self made. If you have any argument then that can be discussed otherwise no one would appreciate this baseless blame.
Actually the problem is that you have only seen one GANG governing Karachi since 20 years, so your mentality is very narrow, soon INSHALLAH when there would be a democrative enviroment in the city of Quaid where every party is presenting his manifesto and having an open debate then you will be attracted by a lot better options and you will not blame anyone as facist.

I can trace your pathetic thinking...
Do you live in Karachi????

If not...Then you do have the ******* right to be jealous of the mandate of MQM in Karachi..

 

[shiningstar]

I can trace your pathetic thinking...
Do you live in Karachi????

If not...Then you do have the ******* right to be jealous of the mandate of MQM in Karachi..

You have no right to ask me about my living area, I am proud that I am living in Pakistan. Secondly don't be coward, if you have courage then write complete word , because that will make your mentality even more clear which is already rubbish.

Karachi is not the property of father of GTT (Gang of target Killers, also known as MQM), due to target killing pakistan is loosing in billions each day. It is the our responsibilty to select member of parlimentarians rather than gangsters so that our city can become peaceful again.

 

[YAHYA87]

You have no right to ask me about my living area, I am proud that I am living in Pakistan. Secondly don't be coward, if you have courage then write complete word , because that will make your mentality even more clear which is already rubbish.

Karachi is not the property of father of GTT (Gang of target Killers, also known as MQM), due to target killing pakistan is loosing in billions each day. It is the our responsibilty to select member of parlimentarians rather than gangsters so that our city can become peaceful again.

So you dont even know K of Karachi and want to speak about karachi...nice...that is what people have problem in understanding what MQM is all about as MQM has most of their role in Karachi while people outide karachi either heard from some MQM hater or some politicians who continuously saying things about MQM in order to make fool out of people...That is the biggest irony about MQM and also about Karachi cause neither MQM haters want to know anything nor they want to believe anything...Little EGO problem among North and Central Punjab is one of its reason as well...

Karachi isnt a property of MQM but its a biggest VOTE BANK of MQM whether you want to digest this fact or not but that remains fact cause even in Army interventions MQM able to clean sweep elections back in 1990s when worse kind of operation was happened against MQM...Pakistan is losing Billions not because of Target killings but because of having incompetent people who cant catch those killers and then blame it on MQM and yes its our responsibility to select parliamentarians for ourself so why so much interferences???Why dictating that what to choose and what not to choose???Its our problem and we can live by that so if you have any problems then try overcome it cause neither Karachiite want dictation from rest of Pakistan which cant even control itself nor we are interested in leaders coming from rest of Pakistan when we have available in Karachi...So get over it or learn to live by that choice is yours...

 

[shiningstar]

So you dont even know K of Karachi and want to speak about karachi...nice...that is what people have problem in understanding what MQM is all about as MQM has most of their role in Karachi while people outide karachi either heard from some MQM hater or some politicians who continuously saying things about MQM in order to make fool out of people...That is the biggest irony about MQM and also about Karachi cause neither MQM haters want to know anything nor they want to believe anything...Little EGO problem among North and Central Punjab is one of its reason as well...

Karachi isnt a property of MQM but its a biggest VOTE BANK of MQM whether you want to digest this fact or not but that remains fact cause even in Army interventions MQM able to clean sweep elections back in 1990s when worse kind of operation was happened against MQM...Pakistan is losing Billions not because of Target killings but because of having incompetent people who cant catch those killers and then blame it on MQM and yes its our responsibility to select parliamentarians for ourself so why so much interferences???Why dictating that what to choose and what not to choose???Its our problem and we can live by that so if you have any problems then try overcome it cause neither Karachiite want dictation from rest of Pakistan which cant even control itself nor we are interested in leaders coming from rest of Pakistan when we have available in Karachi...So get over it or learn to live by that choice is yours...

How you say I am not from Karachi, I am a Pakistani and knows each city very well.
The problem is that you have only seen GTT(Gang of Target Killers (MQM)) since your birth, so you have a sort of fascist mind and this is not strange because single party is handling the whole city from ages. Currently the fight is for the control of Karachi and as a result common man is suffering. This GANG is so hungry for stake that they are not going to accept any other party in this city like when Imran Khan went to Karachi he was not allowed to even enter the city as this city is in some other country. These GANGSTERS are responsible for killing of 92 people and burning of shops and stalls. Where are the investigations and where is the compensation for those stallholders and shopekeepers. Has anyone raised vioce for it??.
There is a sort of monoply there, the whole of city is in control of some GANGSTERS and they are responsible for good and bad of the people. When there would be an open enviroment (like in most other parts of the country), where noone has fear of being killed if they talk against someone, then there would be lot of other options generated for the people of this beautiful city, and they would start thinking to vote other parties to save their lives and business. At the moment noone exists there except a GTT(Gang of Target Killers).

 

[Mujtaba Zaidi]

How you say I am not from Karachi, I am a Pakistani and knows each city very well.
The problem is that you have only seen GTT(Gang of Target Killers (MQM)) since your birth, so you have a sort of fascist mind and this is not strange because single party is handling the whole city from ages. Currently the fight is for the control of Karachi and as a result common man is suffering. This GANG is so hungry for stake that they are not going to accept any other party in this city like when Imran Khan went to Karachi he was not allowed to even enter the city as this city is in some other country. These GANGSTERS are responsible for killing of 92 people and burning of shops and stalls. Where are the investigations and where is the compensation for those stallholders and shopekeepers. Has anyone raised vioce for it??.
There is a sort of monoply there, the whole of city is in control of some GANGSTERS and they are responsible for good and bad of the people. When there would be an open enviroment (like in most other parts of the country), where noone has fear of being killed if they talk against someone, then there would be lot of other options generated for the people of this beautiful city, and they would start thinking to vote other parties to save their lives and business. At the moment noone exists there except a GTT(Gang of Target Killers).

You are pathetic!!!
It would be foolish to answer you becasue you are a fascist and you are not going to accept the realities..
You don't live in Karachi,we are not bound to answer you!!!

 

[alibhai]

The opponents of MQM need to explain the phenomenon of MQM candidates winning elections outside Karachi, and lately even outside sindh when surrounded by killer gangs of the parties that have been in control of those areas for the last 63 years.

 

[shiningstar]

You are pathetic!!!
It would be foolish to answer you becasue you are a fascist and you are not going to accept the realities..
You don't live in Karachi,we are not bound to answer you!!!

Whole of my discussion is based on facts.
You are not going to answer because you have no answer for it and you can't answer.
I am a Pakistani and looking each city from the perpective of betterment, not with narrow and fascist mind like you.
If Karachi remains close for 1 day due to the fear spread by GTT then it costs in billions to Pakistan economy and we have closed it for approx a week and a killing of 92 innocent people.

 

[Zaidi Qasim]

I have read most of this thread. I have to admit that during this sacred month of Ramadan, I do not get much time to come on thos forum. However, I am really disappointed with the supporters of MQM that even in this month the truth is still their casualty and it is hard to come by. With all the information and reseach put together by Brother Night Hawk, It would have been much better for these supporters to stop writting and argueing just for the sake of it, But since it seems their bread and butter depends on it, it is not going to happen.In order to bring change one must at least realize the wrong direction which is being followed, and that is not there yet for the blind support. Let me give you a simple and recent example, AH made waves with his words in Pakistani Politics when he mentioned "Martial Law" sort of action. then, after seeing strong opposition and few days wait, he retreated. yet, these followers are having a hard time paddling back since they went too far advocating their pir's forsightness.It is tough to take a wide u turn now since their own arguments in support of Martial Law will come back and bite their rear ends if they do so.

 

[shiningstar]

The opponents of MQM need to explain the phenomenon of MQM candidates winning elections outside Karachi, and lately even outside sindh when surrounded by killer gangs of the parties that have been in control of those areas for the last 63 years.

GTT is the party of two cities, Karachi and divided Hyderabad. In Karachi, Master of GTT has sowed the seed of ethinicity and Target Killing and run away from country to let the people of Karachi die and they are having trouble in living their normal life up to now. In hyderabad, this gang has divided the city to avoid feudals and whenever something happens in Karachi (like killing of some gang member) they start firing killing 3 to 4 people and that is what they can do. If they get control of whole city then they will also turn that into a hell.
As far as candidates from outside the Karachi is concerned, this GANG has dual face, in Karachi they used to kill innocent people in a lot number and burn their stalls and shops and in hyderabad they used to kill less and more firing just to create fear, and used to get votes on the basis of ethinicity. So, we can see as we move towards cities having less number of people of their ethinic group, their votes starts decreasing accordingly.
As far as other cities are concerned, their is an open political culture from last 63 years and each party contest elections with full force and without ethinicity, thats why people from different parties used to win and make Governments in center and provinces but I can see one pressure group and blackmailer GANG common among them irrespective of the political or non-political governments and that is GTT. From this perspective we can also say that this GANG is sharing bad acts of all other parties which they have done in their respective tenures.
In Karachi before the existance of GTT, there was no Target Killing and parties were having no killer wings. But after the abnormal birth of the mother of all Mafias and GANGs every party has a killer wing and I does not support that. Biggest creulty is that british nationality holder criminal who does not have a Pakistani Identity card is a source of problem for Pakistanis while he is himself enjoying in UK.

 

[mhwaqar]

ایم کیو ایم کا نیا طریقہ واردات
اپنے آپ پر کچھ تنقید کرو
اپنے قاتل گینگ ٹولے کو تسلیم کرو کیونکہ اب اس سے انکار نہیں ہو سکتا
اور آخر میں اپنے اب کی ایک اچھی پولیٹیکل پڑتی ثابت کر دو
اچھی کوشش مگر حقیقت یہ ہے کہ ایم کیو ایم ایک فاشیسٹ پارٹی ہے
اور الطاف حسین ایک بھگوڑا ہے ​

qayamat walay din bhi akalahi hoga " geooggg " jahanum ma agar mqm wlay jannat ma chalay gaey (just joking)