Night-Hawk
Senator (1k+ posts)
Again the same cock and bull stories of "sohrab goth" etc etc. I am still waiting for the categoric rebuttal of serious allegations published by 'neutral' sources on page 1.
Their are so many videos and links posted in this website check out yourself about everything if you are really interested in knowing then...Again the same cock and bull stories of "sohrab goth" etc etc. I am still waiting for the categoric rebuttal of serious allegations published by 'neutral' sources on page 1.
Their are so many videos and links posted in this website check out yourself about everything if you are really interested in knowing then...
If you are not interested then why should MQM supporters waste their time to read links that dont even work????If you are not interested then why should others be interested???Thing is that I believe on "Innocent until proven GUILTY" and till they arent proven Guilty by law they are innocent...hence proved...Why should I waste my time in viewing propaganda videos. You people have always mocked "jasarat", "ummat", and "Takbeer" etc etc. Now its the time to prove your innocence. If those newspapers and organizations have apologized for wrong reports against MQM then please go ahead and post the "apologies".
If you are not interested then why should MQM supporters waste their time to read links that dont even work????If you are not interested then why should others be interested???Thing is that I believe on "Innocent until proven GUILTY" and till they arent proven Guilty by law they are innocent...hence proved...
most of your link are showing Google search page when I open them that is what happening on my PC....On the other hand talking about law then I am talking about the law that is followed in Pakistan the same law which Taliban opposed by calling it UNISLAMIC and same law which has a care taker name Iftikhar Muhammad Choudery....Are you sure that they don't work ?????????? Yahya agar yeh jhoot nikal aaya to apni kia saza tajweez karo ge? They were not prepared by me , also I don't have time to make propaganda videos against you. Which law you are talking about ? You don't even believe in law and Pakistani courts.
most of your link are showing Google search page when I open them that is what happening on my PC....On the other hand talking about law then I am talking about the law that is followed in Pakistan the same law which Taliban opposed by calling it UNISLAMIC and same law which has a care taker name Iftikhar Muhammad Choudery....
My views : In order to augment your statements regarding this GANG, I would like to share some newspaper articles published in some reasonable and reliable dailies. The first article posted in this regard published in daily guardian UK.
The Karachi ruling party 'run like the mafia' from an office block in London
MQM accused of planning carnage which left 42 dead
Khan calls for leader in UK to face anti-terror charges
Declan Walsh in Karachi and Matthew Taylor
The Guardian, Saturday 2 June 2007
Article history
Outside may be Karachi but inside the discreetly guarded room all minds are focused on London. The clock is set to British summer time and a pair of telephones connect to an office 5,000 miles away, from where a controversial Pakistani leader runs his political empire.
Altaf Hussain leads the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) - a powerful, popular and, critics say, thuggish political force that has a vice-like grip on Karachi. At "Nine Zero", the party headquarters in a middle-class suburb, his presence looms large. A giant poster hangs over the entrance and reverential acolytes speak of "Altaf bhai", or brother. But the great leader is missing.
For the past 16 years Mr Hussain has lived in self-imposed exile in the UK, first as an asylum seeker and now as a British citizen. Based in an office block on Edgware High Street in north London he rules by phone, directing his closest lieutenants in long, late-night conversations. But in Pakistan that arrangement has become a matter of controversy - one about to land at the British government's door.
Yesterday the cricketer turned politician Imran Khan arrived in London to try to have Mr Hussain prosecuted under British anti-terror laws. Three weeks ago gunmen opened fire on a rally in support of the chief justice, Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, triggering a day of bloodshed that left 42 people dead. Mr Khan - as well as lawyers, human rights activists and opposition parties - accuse Mr Hussain of orchestrating the carnage from his sofa in London.
"The whole thing was planned. No British citizen is allowed to sit in London and direct terrorist operations abroad. So why should Altaf Hussain?" said Mr Khan who described the MQM as "a fascist movement run by criminals".
If Pakistan has to arrest al-Qaida operatives then Britain has an obligation to pick up Mr Hussain, added Mr Khan, who plans to bring a petition to Downing Street. "There's a war on terror going on but here we have Pakistan's No 1 terrorist being given sanctuary by the British government," he said.
The MQM denies the charges, and insists it was the victim and not the perpetrator of May 12. The party says 13 of its own activists were among the dead, and last week it produced a video from May 12 showing apparent supporters of the rival Pakistan People's party firing their guns in the air. "This is a conspiracy against us. Our decision to hold a rally on May 12 may be open to criticism, but we were not involved in armed attacks," said Dr Farooq Sattar, head of the party in Pakistan.
But Mr Hussain has little to say. At the MQM's "International Secretariat" on Edgware High Street - a red brick office block opposite a supermarket - a party official said the leader was not available for comment. But he was happy to show the Guardian around the offices, which he confirmed was Mr Hussain's London headquarters, and he vowed to repel any court action by Mr Khan.
The fight is getting personal. Back in Karachi graffiti slurs against Imran Khan appeared on walls and the MQM-dominated local government has banned him from the city for one month.
The MQM was founded in 1984 by Mr Hussain, a former Chicago cab driver, and won broad support among the "mohajirs" - Muslims who fled India after partition in 1947. The party prided itself on its well-oiled machine and its secular, liberal outlook. But it was also linked to extortion, gun smuggling and South African crime networks, according to a senior police officer speaking on condition of anonymity. "That's what happens when a political party is run like the mafia," he said.
Local reporters have a rich store of-tales from the 1990s. One said she found a severed hand as a warning in her front garden, another was kidnapped from his home.
But since it entered a coalition government with President Pervez Musharraf in 2002, the party has projected a different image based on secularism, economic development and support for the "war on terror". Moderates such as the Karachi mayor, Mustafa Kamal, boast of new roads, sewage systems and billions of pounds in fresh investment. "MQM believes in every sect and religion. We are against extremism. We were the first people on the streets after 9/11," he said.
But since May 12 the party's aspirations of becoming a national force lie in shreds, and there are worrying echoes of past tactics. On Tuesday, three Karachi journalists with foreign news agencies found unmarked envelopes containing a single bullet on their car windscreens. Two of them had earlier been denounced as "anti-mohajir" by the MQM-linked Muhajir Rabita Council.
Will Mr Hussain ever come home? At Nine Zero, where beefy young men with baseball caps stand guard, there is little sign. "We do not want him to come back to Karachi; it is too dangerous here," said parliamentarian Faisal Subzwari.
But there is always hope. A few doors down Mr Hussain's deserted terraced house is waiting, protected by blastproof metal shutters. For now, though, it has just one occupant - a 24-hour telephone operator.
Weblink of this article : http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jun/02/uk.pakistan
most of your link are showing Google search page when I open them that is what happening on my PC....On the other hand talking about law then I am talking about the law that is followed in Pakistan the same law which Taliban opposed by calling it UNISLAMIC and same law which has a care taker name Iftikhar Muhammad Choudery....
کیا وقت کا ضیاع ہے۔
وہ کونسی بات ہے اس آرٹیکل میں جس کے لیے آپ اچھل رہے ہیں؟
ایک ایسے شخص کا لکھا ہوا آرٹیکل جو کہ کراچی کے حالات سے واقف اور نہ پس منظر سے۔
ایک ایسے شخص کا آرٹیکل جو غلط لکھ رہا ہے کہ ایم کیو ایم نے چیف جسٹس کی ریلی پر فائرنگ کی، حالانکہ یہ اے این پی کے چیف جسٹس کے استقبال کو آئے ہوئے مسلح غنڈے تھے جو اپنی عورتوں بچوں کو گھروں میں چھوڑ کر صبح سے ہی اسلحہ لے کر نکلے ہوئے تھے۔ اور جب پہلی خبر یہ پہنچی کہ فنی خرابی کی وجہ سے طیارہ ہی لاہور سے نہیں اڑا اور چیف جسٹس کراچی آ ہی نہیں رہے ہیں تو پھر پرامن طریقے سے منتشر ہو جانے کی بجائے ان اے این پی کے غنڈوں نے سب سے پہلے متحدہ کی ایسی ریلی پر فائرنگ کھول دی کہ جس میں عورتیں بچے سب شامل تھے۔
پھر وہ ایک انجان پولیس والے سے ملتا ہے، اور ہمیں پتا ہے کہ پولیس میں کون لوگ بھرتی ہوئے ہوئے ہیں اور ان میں اکثر ابھی تک انہیں ماورائے عدالت قتل کرنے والے قاتل درندوں کی ہے جو دوسرے علاقوں سے آئے ہوئے ہیں۔
درحقیقت برطانیہ کی عدالتوں اور برطانیہ کی حکومت، اور اسی طرح جرمنی کی عدالتوں اور جرمنی کی حکومت نے ایم کیو ایم کی ممبرز کو سیاسی پناہ دے کر اُس بدترین ریاستی دہشتگردی کا اقرار کیا ہے کہ جس میں پوری نوے کی دھائی میں کبھی جناح پور کے جھوٹے الزام میں، تو کبھی حکیم سعید کے جھوٹے الزام میں تو کبھی میجر کلیم کے جھوٹے الزام میں مہاجروں کو ماورائے عدالت قتل کیا جاتا رہا۔
ان لوگوں کی منافقت کی بڑی مثال یہ ہے کہ یہ لوگ کینیڈا کی عدالت کا ذکر تو کرتے رہتے ہیں مگر جرمنی اور برطانیہ اور فرانس کی عدالتوں کو پی جاتے ہیں جہاں ان عدالتوں نے متحدہ کے ممبران کو سیاسی پناہ یہ مانتے ہوئے مہیا کی پاکستان میں انکے خلاف ریاستی دہشتگردی کی جا رہی ہے۔
مگر یہ جتنی مرضی منافقت دکھاتے ہوئے اپنا چہرہ چھپانا چاہیں، مگر انکی یہ منافقتیں اب چھپنے والی نہیں اور انکا اصل مکروہ چہرہ سامنے آ کر رہنے والا ہے۔
What ever he did isnt my concern but he represent tha law which you were asking for and he also represent courts that you were asking for in your previous posts....The court which Iftikhar Choudery represent has not proven MQM guilty yet so they are innocent....Iftikhar Chaudhry said NO to his mentor dictator and ameliorated his past. He redeemed himself in people's court. He was honoured by Pakistani nation and reinstated him as Chief Justice. I am waiting when and how Mr. Altaf follows the suit, by saying NO to power and NO to terrorism.
بیبی تمہیں اور تمہارے حواریوں کو مطمئن کرنے کے لیے مریخ سے مخلوق نہیں اترے گی کبھی پاکستانی اخباروں اور حکومتی موقف کے تعصب کا گلہ اور کبھی باہر کی عدالتوں اور اخباروں پر جھوٹی تنقید
اتنے لمبے جھوٹ بولنے کی بجاے ایم کیو ایم ان تمام الزامات پر متلقہ اخبارات امریکی حکومت اور کنیڈین عدالت کو ہتک عزت کا نوٹس کیوں نہیں بھجواتی ---- منافق تمھارے جیسے ہوتے ہیں ان کے سر پر سینگ نہیں ہوتے
بیبی تمہیں اور تمہارے حواریوں کو مطمئن کرنے کے لیے مریخ سے مخلوق نہیں اترے گی کبھی پاکستانی اخباروں اور حکومتی موقف کے تعصب کا گلہ اور کبھی باہر کی عدالتوں اور اخباروں پر جھوٹی تنقید
اتنے لمبے جھوٹ بولنے کی بجاے ایم کیو ایم ان تمام الزامات پر متلقہ اخبارات امریکی حکومت اور کنیڈین عدالت کو ہتک عزت کا نوٹس کیوں نہیں بھجواتی ---- منافق تمھارے جیسے ہوتے ہیں ان کے سر پر سینگ نہیں ہوتے
jab kisi ****y ko bhonknay ki adat hu tu us ko pareshan karnay ki kia zaroorat hai????Bhonkta rahay ga baad mai chup hojaiga...Isi wajah say MQM kisi media pay Hatak-e-Izzat ka case nahi karti kyun k akhir mai un ko loog parhna hi choor daitay hain cause un k pass siwai propaganda k au kuch bhi nahi hota aur agar aisa karay tu app jaisay loog us ki izzat bachanay ajaogay k "MQM ki media k khilaf Muhim ka naam dainay lagoo gay" Is liye is ki zaroorat tu waisay hi nahi hai....Akhir Imran Khan nay bhi tu barhi Koshish ki thi MQM k khilaf bool kar Sasti Shohrat kamanay ki kia faida huwa ab tak usko????
اور تم لوگوں کراچی میں اس کے خلاف فحش ترین وال چاکنگ کرکے اس کو "سستی شہرت" کمانے کا موقعہ فراہم کیا اور جب بدنامی ہوئی تو اسکو مٹاتے رہے اور دوسری بات یہ کہ الفاظ کے انتخاب میں ذرا احتیاط برتا کرو گفتگو میں "کتے" بھونکنا جیسے الفاظ کا عام استمال تم ایم کیو ایم والوں کو مزید بدنام ہی کرے گا جیسا کہ عمران خان والے معاملے میں سواۓ ہزیمت کے کچھ ہاتھ ناں آیا
ایم کیو ایم کے خلاف تو پورا جہاں لکھتا رہا ہے میں نے تو مذکورہ اخبارات کا حوالہ تک نہیں دیا اور جہاں تک عمران خان کی بات ہے تو اگر تم لوگوں نے اس کے بارے میں اتنی شریفانہ زبان استمال کی تو پھر اسے مٹایا کیوں؟ عمران خان بطور کپتان اپنے کھلاڑیوں پر سختی بھی کرتا تھا کھلاڑیوں کے مابین آپس میں اختلافات اکثر ہو جاتےہیں لیکن اس میں ایم کیو ایم کہاں سے گھس گئی ؟ میں کل ہی ٹن سپورٹس کا ایک ریکارڈڈ پروگرام دیکھ رہا تھا جس میں دونوں اشخاص ایک دوسرے کے لیے بہت اچھی زبان استمال کر رہے تھے کچھ اشوز پر ناراضگیاں تو چلتی رہتی ہیں لیکن باہمی احترام کا جذبہ دونوں ہیروز میں اب تک موجود ہے
App tu Umaat, Londonpost aur Jisarat ka hawala kab say dai rahay hu aur is k ilawa agar koi akhbar bachta hai tu woh hai Nawa-e-Waqt aur isko tu "Establishment ki Awaaz" jaisay khitab mil chukay hain agay mai kiya keh sakta hun....agar Imran Khan k baray mai kisi nay kuch likha tu woh automatically MQM ka hi hoga baqi tu sab poray Pakistan mai Imran Khan k chanay walay hain na???Agar kisi nay wall chaking ki thi tu woh uska personal act tha pori jamat ka act nahi tha....Karachi mai Imran Khan ko sirf Chanday ki had tak loog izzat kartay hain jo woh apnay Hospital k liye mangta hai baqi reh gai Karachi mai us ki izzat tu Javaid Miandad k sath kai muqoon pay nainsaafi karnay aur Karachi k fans k sath buray rawayay ki wajah say Imran ko Karachi mai bohat kam hi loog pasand kartay hain aur is mai MQM ka koi hath nahi balkay Imran Khan ki apni harkatain thin jis pay woh Karachi mai sasti Shuhrat nahi kama saka....Aur jahan tak TEN Sports k program ki baat hai tu kia Javaid Miandad ya Imran Khan wahan pay apnay career k issues bayan karaingay ya phir program format k hisaab say baat karaingay????In donoon players mai tu shayad aisi koi baat na hu lakin Karachiite jo ziada tar Javaid Miandad k fans thay un k liye Imran Khan ki harkatain ghalat thin...
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