Lashkar-e-Jhangvi's Malik Ishaq put under house arrest

[moazzamniaz]

Mates things are way more complicated that we think, in fact complicated because we always know half-truths. Malik Ishaq already knew that there was going to be a big time problem as when going towards panjnad, a branch road reaches ghalwan directly which is a totally shiite community and they are not so happy with him so he should have had taken some care in this regard. Rather he let it happen as it would again raise issues within the country. Ghallu community on the other hand is highly illiterate and would kill their own men if it comes to a situation. Now coming to a lady here (no offence intended) who pasted a word murtad upon whoever is fighting for USA. Now how does one determine if one is fighting for US or not? I would reiterate that things are way different than you know. Nobody is fighting america's war in that area. I really criticize army for many things which includes their bossy attitudes as well as their assets and personal character of many amongst them yet they had to fight it.Of course, this thing was thrust upon us because of Musharraf's retreat without much planning yet things got worse when india and coalition forces got hold in afghanistan. Now india doesn't want a stable Pakistan and it is the same at our side too (be it for any reason, though power seems to be the main reason) and ever heard about wanted criminals in urban areas who then go to rural areas and live there secretly and do anything they want, even attacking police and doing whatever they can. Now provide them with religious cover, latest of weapons and a lots of money along with the liberty to do any damn thing in this world to anyone they want and still stay intact, they would do the same as TTP is doing. It includes not only wealth-hungry tribal war lords but all the criminals and mercenaries from all over the world and on the top, there are intelligence agencies operating. I would have had disclosed some other facts here yet according to the recent situation which escalated during the past two days, it might compromise some things (well! a vague idea yet one needs to stay careful). And not telling facts for anyone to believe in them but just to inform.

بھائی، کیا آپ کا تعلق علی پور سے ہے؟؟؟؟

 

[Temojin]

بھائی، کیا آپ کا تعلق علی پور سے ہے؟؟؟؟

Ji mere dadaa abba migration ke baad pehle Lahore aur phir mustaqilan Alipur mein settle howe thae.

 

[w-a-n-t-e-d-]

Assalam o Alaikum,

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abb yehi dekh lo bhai k qari shahid ram puri jo k ek naat khowah thay nazmayin parhtay thay

Inki ek Hamd jo bohat maqbool thi "Allah Sab Say Bara Hai" Ptv pay parhi inho nay


18-12-2010 ko inhay shaheed kardea gea .. for what ???

 

[moazzamniaz]

Ji mere dadaa abba migration ke baad pehle Lahore aur phir mustaqilan Alipur mein settle howe thae.

شکریہ برادر

 

[w-a-n-t-e-d-]

میرے محترم بھائی، ان دو کے بدلے آپ نے پچھلے چند دنوں میں کرم، بلوچستان وغیرہ میں نصف سنچری تو مار ہی لی ہو گی.اور اب اس خبر کو آپ کتنی بار پوسٹ کریں گے؟؟؟

Piyaray Bhai mery aziz

bar bar karayingay khabar main ek ki shadat likhi hai jab k shahdatay 6hain....

kurramm ka ziker nahi chero dost warna wahan jo app k piyaroo nay humara qatl-e-amm kia hai oski
videos mujhay yahan share karni parayingi...

wahan tu app k piyaro ki madad k leyh Iran say sharp shooter snipers guns la k shikaar kheltay hain
sunniuon k sir k sath nishany bazi ki jati hai....

iran ki khowahish pay wahan jo opreation pak army ki rafzi forces bhej k karwaya gea oska hal tu
app siasat pk pay mojoodh talk show capital talk main dekh saktay hain jang akhbar k colums main
dekh saktay hain.

47 bachay burhay jawan rafzi faujion nay ek line main khara kar k goliuon say bhoon deyh 3/4months before.


apny her jaga meri sharing read ki magar os k nechay yeh nahi dekha k hum afghani hazaroon k pakistan main
es qatl-e-am ko ya shiuon say qital ko jaez nahi sumhajtay....or condem kartay hain es ko..


or sath main kaee bar yeh bhi kaha k ppp mqm anp karachi main fasadat karwany main nakam hogaee
es leyh shia sunni fasad karwaya ja raha hai....

apny siast pk main dalny waly talk shows he dekh lo jis din waqiya hoa hai

yeh saray modren fascit anchors tu keh rahay hain k rabbani ka qatal or saniha mustung
amrici sazish hai...

magar ap logo ki soi wahin atki hoee hai tu humara tu kusoor nahi es main

 

[w-a-n-t-e-d-]

Not sure how I negated my own comment on proxy war? Please explain - i fail to get it.

Why do you assume that i made my opinions based on what the liberal or secular columnists write? Why I can't be my own person and have my own opinions - can i assume that you are influenced by the narrow minded half literate mullahs? dont assume things my brother ....
I know you wrote a lot of things - may Allah show you the light - thats all I can pray. I really dont know what your goals are.
BUT, all I can say is that you gave a lot of credence to what I said in my earlier post that WE are fighting the proxy war for Iran and Saudi Arabia on our soil!


You pointed all the problems with Iran and Iranians and Shias - but you dont see ANY problem with Saudi Arabia or Saudis or Wahabism and salafism. So your worldview is one sided.....I can clearly see which side of this proxy war you are on!

You also admitted in a roundabout way that this menace of sectarianism seeped into our society around the time of iranian revolution and the soviet invasion of afghanistan - iran wanted to export its revolution and saudis wanted to make sure that THEIR BRAND of islam was exported all over the world. I have myself seen evidence of saudi and iranian efforts all over the world - how they hired help in pakistan and abroad to finance and further their views. There is no other country and people in the world who are so gullible and so impressionable as Pakistanis. If I was a self respecting Pakistani - I would not take a dime from the Saudi kings - who only have their own interests in mind and they dont support us because we are their cousins - rather you can ask anyone who has been in contact with saudis what they really think of pakistanis :-) If Saudis had the real goodwill of muslims at heart they wouldn't be abandoning the palestinians the way they have and the kashmiri cause and would have stood up to the USA.....but they are self serving b@$tards and they only care about themselves. But we are willing to do their bidding and want to be more holier than them....and in turn willing to ruin our country. My question is why are the saudis killing and blowing up shias in their country - i am sure you would think that they are truer and better muslims than you?

bhai mery app bohat achay tareeqay say ek la hasil behas karrahay hain ...

theek hai main yeh assume kar layta hoon k yeh apki apni soch hai ok brother...


bhai mera Irada/ goals tu serf etna sa hai k app ya koe bhi bhai mozzamniaz temojin
app sab islami jamhoria pakistan main quran ko tehreef shoda kehny wali sahaba rz ko galiyan bakny
tanqeed ka nishana banay walo ko lagaam dal wa do or sarkari sath pay qanoon sazi karwa do ta k yeh
maslay he khatam hojayin ???


ya hummay eska koe new formula bata do ???

 

[moazzamniaz]

Piyaray Bhai mery aziz

bar bar karayingay khabar main ek ki shadat likhi hai jab k shahdatay 6hain....

kurramm ka ziker nahi chero dost warna wahan jo app k piyaroo nay humara qatl-e-amm kia hai oski
videos mujhay yahan share karni parayingi...

wahan tu app k piyaro ki madad k leyh Iran say sharp shooter snipers guns la k shikaar kheltay hain
sunniuon k sir k sath nishany bazi ki jati hai....

iran ki khowahish pay wahan jo opreation pak army ki rafzi forces bhej k karwaya gea oska hal tu
app siasat pk pay mojoodh talk show capital talk main dekh saktay hain jang akhbar k colums main
dekh saktay hain.

47 bachay burhay jawan rafzi faujion nay ek line main khara kar k goliuon say bhoon deyh 3/4months before.


apny her jaga meri sharing read ki magar os k nechay yeh nahi dekha k hum afghani hazaroon k pakistan main
es qatl-e-am ko ya shiuon say qital ko jaez nahi sumhajtay....or condem kartay hain es ko..


or sath main kaee bar yeh bhi kaha k ppp mqm anp karachi main fasadat karwany main nakam hogaee
es leyh shia sunni fasad karwaya ja raha hai....

apny siast pk main dalny waly talk shows he dekh lo jis din waqiya hoa hai

yeh saray modren fascit anchors tu keh rahay hain k rabbani ka qatal or saniha mustung
amrici sazish hai...

magar ap logo ki soi wahin atki hoee hai tu humara tu kusoor nahi es main

میرے بھائی، تشدد کے علاوہ پرامن تبلیغ، تحریک، احتجاج وغیرہ سب ٹھیک ہے. اور میں آپکے ساتھ اس حد تک متفق ہوں کہ کسی کو بھی کسی دوسرے مذھب کی برگزیدہ شخصیات کی سرعام توہین اور دل آزاری کا حق نہیں ہے، اسلئیے اس پر دونوں فریقین کے مابین کوئی پرامن تصفیہ ہو جانا چاہیے. البتہ اب اگر آپ انٹر نیٹ، اور کونوں کھدروں سے گستاخانہ مواد نکال نکال کر نفرت کی آگ بھڑکاتے پھریں تو یہ بہت غلط بات ہے. باقی جو بھی دوسروں کی دل آزاری کرے، ایسی نعرے بازی کرے، قتل کرے وغیرہ میرے نزدیک سب مجہول ہیں. چاہے جواب میں ہی کیوں نہ ہو

 

[w-a-n-t-e-d-]

میرے بھائی، تشدد کے علاوہ پرامن تبلیغ، تحریک، احتجاج وغیرہ سب ٹھیک ہے. اور میں آپکے ساتھ اس حد تک متفق ہوں کہ کسی کو بھی کسی دوسرے مذھب کی برگزیدہ شخصیات کی سرعام توہین اور دل آزاری کا حق نہیں ہے، اسلئیے اس پر دونوں فریقین کے مابین کوئی پرامن تصفیہ ہو جانا چاہیے. البتہ اب اگر آپ انٹر نیٹ، اور کونوں کھدروں سے گستاخانہ مواد نکال نکال کر نفرت کی آگ بھڑکاتے پھریں تو یہ بہت غلط بات ہے. باقی جو بھی دوسروں کی دل آزاری کرے، ایسی نعرے بازی کرے، قتل کرے وغیرہ میرے نزدیک سب مجہول ہیں. چاہے جواب میں ہی کیوں نہ ہو

Tu bhai mery yehi tu sari baat haina k hum tu tashadud ki baat nahi karty humko tashadudh pay oksaya jaraah hai yeh sab pri plan kia jaraha hai sumjho es sazish ko yeh dekhayin punjab govt.. ka ek or karnama

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yeh sab fasad ki sazishyin hain agar humaray rehnumao or ulema ko kuch hota hai tu oska zemedar kaun hoga ?


Humara tu mutalba he yeh hai k supreem court es baat pay bhi somoto action lay..
jaysay Chife Justice Syed Sajjad Ali Shah nay leya tha magar unko faysla sunanay say pehlay
jibran un k uhday say farigh kardea gea.....

unho nay shia sunni duno maktab-e-fikar k dalail sunay thay ..
bad main mukhalif firqa bhag leya jab wo faysla sunanay lagay tu Govt... nay hata dea unko sazish k tehat
agar wo faysla suna chukay hotay tu ajj yeh masail nahi paeda hotay....


unho nay apni bartarfi k bad ek book likhi hai phir oski yad dehani karwa doon app bhaiuon ko
"Supreen Court In A House Of Glass" lazmi read karayin or dekhayin court main discus honay wala yeh
shia sunni masla kahan tak pohanch chuka tha fareqain k dalaeil kia thay ...


ho sakta hai kise molvi ki na sahi unki baat kise ko sumhaj ajay

 

[mrk123]

bhai mery app bohat achay tareeqay say ek la hasil behas karrahay hain ...

theek hai main yeh assume kar layta hoon k yeh apki apni soch hai ok brother...


bhai mera Irada/ goals tu serf etna sa hai k app ya koe bhi bhai mozzamniaz temojin
app sab islami jamhoria pakistan main quran ko tehreef shoda kehny wali sahaba rz ko galiyan bakny
tanqeed ka nishana banay walo ko lagaam dal wa do or sarkari sath pay qanoon sazi karwa do ta k yeh
maslay he khatam hojayin ???


ya hummay eska koe new formula bata do ???

When you can't take the discussion to the next level and would like to be stuck at the superficial level then you wont get what I am trying to argue.

I will make it easy for you - why dont you ask the saudis, that you so respect, and take their lead in dealing with shias - if you cant ask then just study their treatment of shias - at least even with all the hatred that they have according to their wahabi/salafi sect towards shias they still dont go around lining up shia pilgrims in saudi arabia and shooting them or blowing them up in their mosques if there are any shia mosques in saudi arabia.....

Also tell me - lets assume for the sake of argument that shias according to your maulanas' (that you follow) logic are kafirs - now are they bigger kuffar or mushriks than the ones at the time of the Prophet (SAW)? If the prophet didnt ask his companions to go around killing people then why is it justified today?

 

[urdu_man]

I don't get it. He was in jail for so many years. How did he plan sri lankan team attack which was so sophisticated?
Also, in the above news, 2 members of LeJ were killed, and no shia. . So how is LeJ responsible? I think both must be involved atleast

you look innocent [hilar]

 

[Veila Mast]

Ji mere dadaa abba migration ke baad pehle Lahore aur phir mustaqilan Alipur mein settle howe thae.

بھائی جان آپ کون سے علی پور کی بات کر رہے ہیں؟

مذکورہ علی پور ضلع مظفر گڑھ کی تحصیل ہے

 

[urdu_man]

Koi baat nahin.

He can still eat all the halwa and gosht at his home and burp in the name of Allah. :P

After all, he will get sawab and hooris for it!

for Allah also loves bakras like him, right?

he will be popular in hoors [hilar]

 

[Temojin]

بھائی جان آپ کون سے علی پور کی بات کر رہے ہیں؟

مذکورہ علی پور ضلع مظفر گڑھ کی تحصیل ہے

ji vohi alipur

 

[samar]

our society shoud be cleaned of Such hate mongers ........................

 

[w-a-n-t-e-d-]

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