Lal masjid operation, and musharaf per ilzam

[muntazir]

pakistan ka eik beuorocrate germany official course par gaya wahan course par eik din eik german same post wale officer nay os paksitani officer say pocha ke ap ke loag yahan atay hain course hamarey sath course kartay hain ameirca england say bhi courses kartay hain phir aap ke mulk ke halat theek kiyon nahe hotey .tu oss paksitani officer nay kaha ham yahan iss liye nahe atey ke yahan say seekh kar ham nay paksitan mein apply karna hai ham yeh iss liye sekhtay hain ke yeh ham nay paksitan mein nahe honey dena ..woh german chonk para apey cup mein chaiye daltey howey oss nay paksitani officer say pocha yeh kia baat hoi .. tu oss pakistani nay kaha ke janab mujhey or meri bivi ko bed par chaiye milti hai .jo kapray ap khud iron kartay hain hamarey pass woh karney ke liye 4 nokar hotey hein . aap jo apney ghar ki sunday ko gardning kartay hain mere ghar mein har din 3 banday kartay hain .. janab agar ham pakistan ko easa taraki yafta kar dain logon ke halat achay ho jain tu hamey yeh kam kon kar ke dai ga ...phir ham bi aap ki tarah chaiye khud banain gai or khud cup mein dalin gai khud hi wash bhi karein ham ***** hain .. bhai jan yeh hai woh fanatic mentality jis ka reaction phir lal masjid type hota hai or yeh abhi kuch bhi nahe hai .. mere jesay logon ka hamari jesay famlies ab hostile hoti ja rahi hain hamey apney future dark nazar a raha hai .. bhai jan sochain kuch iss tarf sarey loag eik lal masjid nahe kai lal masjidon waley othain gai. kai bakrey wale othain gai kai sweeper batman othain gai

insaf bhai had bhi hoti hai kisi debate ki aap koo her tarha sai mutamin kia aur aapkey paas koi logic naheen phir bhi aap apni baath per arey howey hain yeh koi baath naah hoi her debate main logic baath ko mana jaata hai aap main aur doosrey takfirion main bas aik hi faraq hai key aap ney abhi tak koi fatwa arshad naheen kia per aap baat ko mananey per tayar naheen hain aap mer tamam loogoon sai debate ko dekhen key jo bhi ilzam unhon ney lagaya main ney unhi ki books key hawaloon sai un ko ghalat sait kia per woh naheen maney per aik samaghdar shaksiat hoo aap ko kamazkam haqaiq manana chahey khuda raa ye hamari jang hai yeh qatil mugey aur aap koo hamari ainda nasaloon key saath jahliat key andheroon main dhkelna chahtey hain aab bhi hosh main aajaen yeh khuda raa shariat naheen un key farsooda muasharti nizam hai joo woh hum per zabardasto thonsna chahtey hain.

 

[drkjke]

whoever started this thread is total secular mentality.you people killed hundreds of unarmed girls in a mosque and try to justify this heinous crime (so that Allah,s azaab strikes the likes of you sooner rather than later).as for laal mosque martyrs their families are being gathered and they will put evidence in court that how many innocent young teen aged girls were killed by army.(though we know that court will not bring justice here and only divine azaab will bring justice). actually in laal mosque apart from few licensed weapons for security their were no weapons ,its been proven already and laal mosque operation was a blood sacrifice for satan who is the real master of you seculars. plus sectarian element was also involved in laal mosque attack.as a particular sect people passionately killed these girls for belonging to their opposing sect.residents of Islamabad can never forget seeing dead bodies of young women and children as young as 2 year old lying in naala near the mosque.they were thrown their by army.inshalah you seculars will pay the price of this crime with interest.when you see your own families end up like that.bit bitter it may seem to you but its the way divine justice works. remember my words. even after so many azaabs on Pakistan the secular satan worshippers still try to defend this crime in laal mosque

 

[drkjke]

insaf bhai had bhi hoti hai kisi debate ki aap koo her tarha sai mutamin kia aur aapkey paas koi logic naheen phir bhi aap apni baath per arey howey hain yeh koi baath naah hoi her debate main logic baath ko mana jaata hai aap main aur doosrey takfirion main bas aik hi faraq hai key aap ney abhi tak koi fatwa arshad naheen kia per aap baat ko mananey per tayar naheen hain aap mer tamam loogoon sai debate ko dekhen key jo bhi ilzam unhon ney lagaya main ney unhi ki books key hawaloon sai un ko ghalat sait kia per woh naheen maney per aik samaghdar shaksiat hoo aap ko kamazkam haqaiq manana chahey khuda raa ye hamari jang hai yeh qatil mugey aur aap koo hamari ainda nasaloon key saath jahliat key andheroon main dhkelna chahtey hain aab bhi hosh main aajaen yeh khuda raa shariat naheen un key farsooda muasharti nizam hai joo woh hum per zabardasto thonsna chahtey hain.

well .you people belong to the sect who was behind this lal mosque operation in first place.so why wont you label sharia as "farsooda nizaam."curse of Allah be upon people who label sharia as jahalat!

 

[muntazir]

whoever started this thread is total secular mentality.you people killed hundreds of unarmed girls in a mosque and try to justify this heinous crime (so that Allah,s azaab strikes the likes of you sooner rather than later).as for laal mosque martyrs their families are being gathered and they will put evidence in court that how many innocent young teen aged girls were killed by army.(though we know that court will not bring justice here and only divine azaab will bring justice). actually in laal mosque apart from few licensed weapons for security their were no weapons ,its been proven already and laal mosque operation was a blood sacrifice for satan who is the real master of you seculars. plus sectarian element was also involved in laal mosque attack.as a particular sect people passionately killed these girls for belonging to their opposing sect.residents of Islamabad can never forget seeing dead bodies of young women and children as young as 2 year old lying in naala near the mosque.they were thrown their by army.inshalah you seculars will pay the price of this crime with interest.when you see your own families end up like that.bit bitter it may seem to you but its the way divine justice works. remember my words. even after so many azaabs on Pakistan the secular satan worshippers still try to defend this crime in laal mosque

azaab hi to ban ker yeh qatil hum per musallat hain aapki baddua qabool hooo chuki.

 

[muntazir]

well .you people belong to the sect who was behind this lal mosque operation in first place.so why wont you label sharia as "farsooda nizaam."curse of Allah be upon people who label sharia as jahalat!

bilul curse on those who dont want sharia but which sharia? sharia ssp,ttp,mullah umar wali ya shariat Mohamaadi tum koo her baat main shia hi nazar aatey hain apna ilag zaror karwaoo kionkey itna khouf hona achi baat naheen sehat key ley aur apni iss shariat ko apney paas hi rakho ham ko sirf shariat Mohamaadi chahey aur yeh mulk bananey waley hum loog hain aur sunni bhi tumarey barey to abhi tak ind main jaakar 2 quomi nazria key khilaf baat kertey hain.

 

[Sohraab]

kia aapko woh waqia yaad hai jab aik waqiey main aik shakhs ko jis ney kalima parha aur phir bhi uss koo qatal kerdya gaya to hazrat Mohamaad pbuh kitna naaraz howey aapney kaha tum kia iss key dill key ander dekh saktey they key woh kaisa kalima parhta hai, bhai aap kisi ko haq aur nahaq per to keh saktey hain per kisi kalima goo koo kaafir naheen keh saktey baqi aap ki zubaan to main pakar naheen sakta bass Allah ki pakar sai mughey aur aap samaith sab ko bachaey aur Allah ka fazal hamarey saath hoo, baqi aap proof karen key aap kisi ko kion kaafir keh saktey hain,rahi baath samaghney kii main aapki baath samaghta hoon un kato faisla hoo gaya hai baqi hamara faisla hona baqi hai;)

Haan mujhe woh waqiyaa yaad hai bohut achi tarha se , Lekin woh shaks jis ko qatal kia gaya tha aik aam insan tha jab ke Musharraf Pakistan ka un constitutional president tha , aik aam aadmi main aur Hukmaran main bohut farq hota hai , jab aik shaks Sadar banay ga to loog us ki zaat ke har Pehlu par baat karain gay , us ke ghar walon se le kar us ke mazhab tak har pehlu par

Aur phir bhi agar aap ko bohut shooq ho aik bohut aasan ka tareeqa batata hoon , aisa karo apne Hijraaay Leader Musharraf ka woh Video Jalsa Youtube se dhoondoo jo us ne 2012 main Karachi main kia tha , Us jalsay main us ne bohut si baatain ki lekin aik bohut important baat ki us ne , Musharraf ne kaha , Meri Mazhabi shanakht par shak na kia jai , main Musalman hoon Aur Syed hoon. Youtube par search karo aur dekho , Tumhari tabiyat saaf ho jai gi ;)

Mujhe sirf itna batao , Pakistan ki jitni bhi political parties hain , us sab ke kisi Chairman ne kabhi apne jalsay main yeh kaha ke meri Mazhabi shinakht par shak na kia jai ???????

Muj se baat karne se behtar hai London jao apne Bhigooray Leader Musharraf ke pass kuin ke woh Hijraaa to Pakistan aa nahi sakta [hilar] , to tum hi London chalay jao aur poocho us bhigooray se ke Sir aap ne jo Karachi main VIDEO khitaab kia tha aur us khitab main kaha tha ke meri Mazhabi shinakht par shak na kia jai to woh mazhabi Shinakht kia hai ????????

 

[muntazir]

Haan mujhe woh waqiyaa yaad hai bohut achi tarha se , Lekin woh shaks jis ko qatal kia gaya tha aik aam insan tha jab ke Musharraf Pakistan ka un constitutional president tha , aik aam aadmi main aur Hukmaran main bohut farq hota hai , jab aik shaks Sadar banay ga to loog us ki zaat ke har Pehlu par baat karain gay , us ke ghar walon se le kar us ke mazhab tak har pehlu par

Aur phir bhi agar aap ko bohut shooq ho aik bohut aasan ka tareeqa batata hoon , aisa karo apne Hijraaay Leader Musharraf ka woh Video Jalsa Youtube se dhoondoo jo us ne 2012 main Karachi main kia tha , Us jalsay main us ne bohut si baatain ki lekin aik bohut important baat ki us ne , Musharraf ne kaha , Meri Mazhabi shanakht par shak na kia jai , main Musalman hoon Aur Syed hoon. Youtube par search karo aur dekho , Tumhari tabiyat saaf ho jai gi ;)

Mujhe sirf itna batao , Pakistan ki jitni bhi political parties hain , us sab ke kisi Chairman ne kabhi apne jalsay main yeh kaha ke meri Mazhabi shinakht par shak na kia jai ???????

Muj se baat karne se behtar hai London jao apne Bhigooray Leader Musharraf ke pass kuin ke woh Hijraaa to Pakistan aa nahi sakta [hilar] , to tum hi London chalay jao aur poocho us bhigooray se ke Sir aap ne jo Karachi main VIDEO khitaab kia tha aur us khitab main kaha tha ke meri Mazhabi shinakht par shak na kia jai to woh mazhabi Shinakht kia hai ????????

mughey samagh naheen aai aap kiss ko mukhatib hain any how yeh bhi samagh naheen aaya key itni post aapney kaisey iss forum per kii aur abhi tak aap mature naheen howey merey kisi quote main yaa kaheen aur jaggah sai kahan sabit hota hai key main musharraf ko leader manta hoon? aur yeh tum tum kia hota hai main aap keh ker mukhatib kerraha hoon aur aap apni jahalat mugh per ghaar rahey hoo mian main ****** bhejta hoon joo bhi aamriat ko pasand kerta hoo joo main ney kaha thaa woh aap jaisey shakhs kii sooch sai buhat buland hai issley mughey samagh naheen aarahi key main kia mazeed kalam karoon aap sey, hum to bhai 1400 saal pehley hi faisla kerchukey hain key bhagooroon koo apna leader naheen manana to mazeed kuch naheen kahoon gas aaram farmaen aur samghey gaa jo main samghana chah raha thaa mazeed takalluf math karey gaa main aap sey buhat mehzooz ho chuka hoon yehi kaafi hai.

 

[Fursan]

You Piece of Shiiittt , SHAME ON YOU , you are showing hadees for the worst butality of the history of PakistanAnd u r really Be Ghairrrat for supporting and defending that crime

Are you abusing me or the hadis ???
you really got freaked out after hearing the hadis...

If operation against khawarij of lal masjid was a crime then you would have to tell everyone that you covertly support the crime of those religious fanatics who seized the Holy Kaaba in an armed assault.

Ab bata kaun be-ghairat hai ???

Take this fact in your pea brain, if an operation can be done in Masjid Al Haraam / Holy Kaaba to clear it from khawarij religious fanatics, then an operation against Lal Masjid is FULLY JUSTIFIED.

 

[Fursan]

whoever started this thread is total secular mentality.you people killed hundreds of unarmed girls in a mosque and try to justify this heinous crime (so that Allah,s azaab strikes the likes of you sooner rather than later).as for laal mosque martyrs their families are being gathered and they will put evidence in court that how many innocent young teen aged girls were killed by army.(though we know that court will not bring justice here and only divine azaab will bring justice). actually in laal mosque apart from few licensed weapons for security their were no weapons ,its been proven already and laal mosque operation was a blood sacrifice for satan who is the real master of you seculars. plus sectarian element was also involved in laal mosque attack.as a particular sect people passionately killed these girls for belonging to their opposing sect.residents of Islamabad can never forget seeing dead bodies of young women and children as young as 2 year old lying in naala near the mosque.they were thrown their by army.inshalah you seculars will pay the price of this crime with interest.when you see your own families end up like that.bit bitter it may seem to you but its the way divine justice works. remember my words. even after so many azaabs on Pakistan the secular satan worshippers still try to defend this crime in laal mosque

Even everything cannot be according to your wish in a dream and this is a real life, make big claims when you have proof about killing of hundreds of unarmed girls or children lying in naala near the mosque.

 

[wadera]

After this long comment you have posted, it looks like if LM are not khawarij according to you, then this means that you support those religious extremist fanatics who took over the Holy Kaaba and caused bloodshed.

This means that there can be no sensible argument with you.

And.. this is totally false that 80 masjids were razed in ISB, you are playing with figures.

wow .. what a logic you are using :) Amazing!!! As I said earlier, remove the blinds of taqqiya .. and then read my posts .. unfortunately, rafidis like you are only good at diverting issues. Some portions that you have read you did not even understand .. shame on you.

Still my challenge is on .. and I repeat and to help your small brain absorb some simple text I have highlighted the relevant in bold text .. So, don't be shy



Dude .. stop your taqqiya for a moment and think objectively. Seriously, when you start calling people khawarij then aren't you a takfiri too?

Secondly, happy to discuss and debate with you on whether Taliban or LM folks were khawarij are not .. but for that start a separate thread.

Fact is that Musharaf started razing Masjids in ISB .. a list of 80 Masjids was published for the purpose and 3/4 masjids were razed. This is when LM folks took matter in their hand.

What you un-informed people don't know is that thanks to the sacrifices of brave folks of LM .. this operation to raze Masjids in ISB was halted and this incident was the beginning of the end of your paymaster i.e. Musharaf

The same commando is now sh*t scared to even come back to Pakistan .. he is just another egoistic person who screw*d Pakistan for over 8 years ... nothing else

 

[Fursan]

wow .. what a logic you are using :) Amazing!!! As I said earlier, remove the blinds of taqqiya .. and then read my posts .. unfortunately, rafidis like you are only good at diverting issues. Some portions that you have read you did not even understand .. shame on you.

Still my challenge is on .. and I repeat and to help your small brain absorb some simple text I have highlighted the relevant in bold text .. So, don't be shy



Dude .. stop your taqqiya for a moment and think objectively. Seriously, when you start calling people khawarij then aren't you a takfiri too?

Secondly, happy to discuss and debate with you on whether Taliban or LM folks were khawarij are not .. but for that start a separate thread.

Fact is that Musharaf started razing Masjids in ISB .. a list of 80 Masjids was published for the purpose and 3/4 masjids were razed. This is when LM folks took matter in their hand.

What you un-informed people don't know is that thanks to the sacrifices of brave folks of LM .. this operation to raze Masjids in ISB was halted and this incident was the beginning of the end of your paymaster i.e. Musharaf

The same commando is now sh*t scared to even come back to Pakistan .. he is just another egoistic person who screw*d Pakistan for over 8 years ... nothing else

Rest of the issues will be discussed later. First tell me, who told you that I am a rafidi or shia ??

 

[wadera]

Rest of the issues will be discussed later. First tell me, who told you that I am a rafidi or shia ??

your comments and most importantly the way you exhibit taqqiyaa... this is also obvious in the above statement/question you have asked to divert from the topic at hand.

 

[Fursan]

your comments and most importantly the way you exhibit taqqiyaa... this is also obvious in the above statement/question you have asked to divert from the topic at hand.

You are a deceiver, how can you prove that i am a shia ??

First you put a false allegation which you cannot prove and then you want me to believe all your s.h.i.t that you do in favor of your lal masjid khawarij thugs.

 

[wadera]

You are a deceiver, how can you prove that i am a shia ??

First you put a false allegation which you cannot prove and then you want me to believe all your s.h.i.t that you do in favor of your lal masjid khawarij thugs.

haha .. this is yet another prove that you are a Shia .. come on man .. there is nothing wrong in admitting that .. why are you so worked up about it?

You are also bordering to becoming a takfiri by labeling lal masjid folks as khawarij .. you are only embarrassing yourself .. there is still time for you to realise that ..

The only deceiver is that who believes deception/taqiyya as a belief .. and I am certainly not in that category .. for you .. I must say .. its now 3rd post and you still haven't denied that you are not a shia ... speaks for itself ..

 

[Fursan]

haha .. this is yet another prove that you are a Shia .. come on man .. there is nothing wrong in admitting that .. why are you so worked up about it?

You are also bordering to becoming a takfiri by labeling lal masjid folks as khawarij .. you are only embarrassing yourself .. there is still time for you to realise that ..

The only deceiver is that who believes deception/taqiyya as a belief .. and I am certainly not in that category .. for you .. I must say .. its now 3rd post and you still haven't denied that you are not a shia ... speaks for itself ..

The fact is that when you have already made a false claim that I am a shia and you are stiff at your lie, then this also shows your false authenticity of information about Lal Masjid operation you spread here.

Lets see how far you will go in your lies !!

 

[wadera]

The fact is that when you have already made a false claim that I am a shia and you are stiff at your lie, then this also shows your false authenticity of information about Lal Masjid operation you spread here.

Lets see how far you will go in your lies !!

SubhanAllah. You are still diverting from issues .. why? Only for some point scoring?

Really .. how much has mushy paid you man? or what other favor has he done for you or your family? Must be something..

You continue to divert .. be a man ok.. You are still not denying that you are a Shia .. I wonder why ... :35:

 

[Fursan]

SubhanAllah. You are still diverting from issues .. why? Only for some point scoring?

Really .. how much has mushy paid you man? or what other favor has he done for you or your family? Must be something..

You continue to divert .. be a man ok.. You are still not denying that you are a Shia .. I wonder why ... :35:

Of course i am a Sunni and you have totally failed to prove your claim that i am a shia, that's why you are diverting and making another claim that maybe mush paid me.

Actually you have openly made a claim that you cannot prove and you cannot back out either, this is the reason you are beating about the bush to avoid embarrassment.

Koi baat nai... aisa ho jata hai ..(clap)

 

[wadera]

Of course i am a Sunni and you have totally failed to prove your claim that i am a shia, that's why you are diverting and making another claim that maybe mush paid me.

Actually you have openly made a claim that you cannot prove and you cannot back out either, this is the reason you are beating about the bush to avoid embarrassment.

Koi baat nai... aisa ho jata hai ..(clap)

I thought I replied this same comment on other thread. on Mushy .. lets talk there or here if you feel more comfortable but not both places .. waste of time and effort on both our parts

 

[Fursan]

I thought I replied this same comment on other thread. on Mushy .. lets talk there or here if you feel more comfortable but not both places .. waste of time and effort on both our parts

Do you want to still talk more after the fun you made of yourself by making a false allegation ??
Do you have any credibility left ?

 

[zhohaq]

From this thread,
Its very clear that the issue is still is very divisive.
Some people simply refuse to accept reality.
The reality is too ugly to confront apparently.

Well the Judicial commission is a good step and IA will clear things up.
Even f their is no accountability , even the truth will suffice.

Shahid Masood penned probably his careers best column.
Worth reading:

Hamid Mir a few months later wrote this.
Its probably the best depiction of how polarising the issue is for Pakistan.


Since the event their are only two kinds of people. The people who recognize the tragedy and the others who don't.
Slowly and surely this wound has grown larger an larger.The Unacceptable has become common place.
Hate bred more hate violence begot more violence.
Some people in the hail of blood and steel saw clarity.All comfortable myths shattered.
For them there was no going back.