Lal masjid operation, and musharaf per ilzam

[insaf_tiger]

ghalti say dislike ho gaya iss ko like samjho

 

[insaf_tiger]

1kiya wo armed nahi thay?
ist of all brother lal masjid eik wakia nahe hai eik dastan hai .. iss ki shoroat wahan say nahe hoti jahan say aap ka zehan cheye ya jahan say aap ko appeal kare. lal masjid eik nai shorat ka ikhtatam tha ..aap ke question bahot masoom hain aap ke question or honey cheye thay jo mein nay ajj say 5 6 sal pehlay sochay thay ..
woh armed thay . kis tarah ?pistal kalashankov double 12 bor 8 mm type hathayar pakistan mein bahot common hain or pathan ke pass yeh na hon tu bari uncommon baat hai .. mein aap say pochta hon aap ki walid sahab ko din dhiyare masjid ke sehan mein shaheed kia gaya ho katil bhi malom ho hakoomat qatil ki sarprasti kar rahi ho sectarian issue par tu kia phir aap apney defence ke liye asla rakho gai ya nahe ?
phir kia jo asla ohon ney rakha tha woh ziyada takatwar tha ya jo army ke pass hai woh ziyada hai.. har bara badmash kamzor or maskeen par yahi eilzam lagata hai . jesay america nay iraq par lagaya woh america jis ke ilawa aaj taak kisi or country nay insano par atom bomb nahe chalaya oss nay iraq par ilazam lagaya iss ke pass chemical weapons hain or petrol par kabzaey ka tareeka dhonda ..
phir lal masjid operation say kia paksitan mein asala kam howa ya ziyada howa ?
karachi ko de weponize karney ki baat ki tu mqm nay kia kaha ham nahe honey dain gai ?
musharaf nay chudary wajahat ko 3000 g 3 dilwai banned item hai oss ki private army hai kia woh jaiz tha ?
12 may ko karachi mein khoon ki nadi bahai or phir moqay lehra ke kaha mqm pay case bhi nahe ho ga kia woh mohabat gardi thi ?
kiya us ko enough time nHi diya gaya?
bhai jan kiss baat ka time . kia iss baat ka time ke masjid khali kar dain . issue kia thay .. issue yeh thay ke eik tu fahashi ko khatam kia jaye . jab say cable ayei thi siway video shop pay porn biknay ke ilawa koi or cheiz thi hi nahe video shops ke ilawa koi eik dukan batian jo jalii ho lal masjid ke bachon nay ?
jab anti shameem ke aday ki shikayat thana kohsara mein hoi tu police walon nay saf inkar kar dia ke ham iss par hath nahe dal saktay .tu jab larkiyan khud ja kar bahot soon ki anti shameem ko otha laye tu wohi police lal masjid pohanch gai mujhe aap batain ease kanoon or kanoon ke rakhwalon ki phir kon izzat karta .?
agar lal masjid waley extremist hotey tu sab ki anti shameem ko rangay haton pakarney par sangsar kartay magar ossey nehla kar wazo kara kar quran par kasam othawai phir nahe karey gi or chor dia .. ?
sab say bara issue tha wafaqul madaris ka .musharaf ke route ke darmiyan 7 masjidein ati thi woh gira di gai .. lal masjid ka mutalba tha woh masjid restore ki jaye .kia on masjids ko wahan say thorey door tameer karwaaney ki option di gai ?
kiya un se mazakray nahi kiye gaye?
bhai sahab koi mozakrat nahe howe mein musharaf nay face saving ke liye chudary shujat or ijazulhaq or chand fazlurehman jesay dram e bazon ko bheja kia aap batana pasand karein gai woh kia term and conditions lay kar aye thay or shaheede azam ghazi sahab nay kon si baat nahe mani or on ki terms kia thi ?
by the way chudry shujat or abhi kuch din pehlay ijazul haq qoam say ilaniya mafi maang chokey hain ke hameny resign bhi dena cheye tha or yeh ke musharaf ka trial bhi ho or yeh ke musharaf or shukat aziz muzakrat nahe chatey thay ham nay beach mein parney ki koshish ki or jab ham musharaf or shukat aziz say baat kartay tu woh hanstay thay.
kiya IMAM e KABA ne un se request nahi ki? Ke yeh sab kuch chor do aur mazakrat kar lo?
imam e kaba ki term and condition lay kar aye thay yeh zaroor batna bhai jan i myself is not clear mein lal masjid operation say kuch din pahlay paksitan say bahir a gaya tha molana abdul aziz say molaqat hoi tu pochon ga ..so iss baat pay abhi mazrat .

kiya un logo ne armed forces ka muqabla nahi kiya?
bhai jan mein aap ke ghar pay hamla karon tu kia aap wapis jawab nahe dain gai .. aap par larai impose ki jaye tu aap kia karein gai?

kiya hamre commados shaheed nahi hue?
bhai jan mein aap ke ghar par hamla karon or aap ke ghar say bhi mujh koi wapis shoot karey tu mere ghar waley yeh baat ka case karwain gai ke mein nay self defence mein aap ke ghar par hamla kia or aap nay mujhe goli mari .. bhai jan army waley hamla karney gai thay mohasara kia tha lalamasjid ka ya lal masjid nay ghq ka mohasara kia tha ?
or yeh bhi batata chalon ke operation say pehlay eik halicoptar aa kar khara howa tha lalmasjid ke oper jis say bachey or bachiyon nay yeh samjah ke on par air attack honey laga hai tu woh mushtail ho gai oss halicoptar say pictures li gai thi oss ke baad bachon nay pass ministry of environment ki building par hamla kar dia. so that was start.
you tube par ome hassaan bi bi ka last khotaba para hai son lena .. jab army bahir khari thi tu ome hassan nay kia kaha tha ke tumhey tu hamari hifazat karni cheye thi par tum hamari hi chadron ka shikar karney a gai ho

kiya us masjid main weapen nahi thay
is ka answer mein oper dai choka hon that dsnt seems even a question to me .han uzbak or chachan ke barey mein molana ghazi sahab nay kaha tha jab ham shaheed ho jaien gai tu media walon ko nahe aney dia jaye ga jab tak hamey dafan nahe karein gai or wohi howa . mujhe eik bhi chachan ya uzbik ka nam pata lash batana jo shaheed ho lala masjid mein .. please .

iss ke ilawa eik bahot bara pass manzar hai .woh loag sabit kadam rahey apni shahdat li or chal diya or ham sharukh khan ke islam ke pojari jo kehta hai mere bachay quran ko bhi salam kartey hain or bhagwan ko bhi bus easa islam chey hamey bhi so iss liye chup kar ke bethay rahey marnay do army ko onhein .. ham sab musharaf ke sath baraber ke shareek hain iss jurm mein ..

 

[insaf_tiger]

@babatank ... 40 sal iss mulk par army nay hakomat ki hai .. bhuto nawaz altaf taliban pedawar hai in ki .. bangladesh say lay kar lal masjid fata and balouchistan sab ghalat hain sirf yeh chand shararbi **** property dealer general theek hain stop glorifying these criminals

 

[Khan.paki]

1kiya wo armed nahi thay?
ist of all brother lal masjid eik wakia nahe hai eik dastan hai .. iss ki shoroat wahan say nahe hoti jahan say aap ka zehan cheye ya jahan say aap ko appeal kare. lal masjid eik nai shorat ka ikhtatam tha ..aap ke question bahot masoom hain aap ke question or honey cheye thay jo mein nay ajj say 5 6 sal pehlay sochay thay ..
woh armed thay . kis tarah ?pistal kalashankov double 12 bor 8 mm type hathayar pakistan mein bahot common hain or pathan ke pass yeh na hon tu bari uncommon baat hai .. mein aap say pochta hon aap ki walid sahab ko din dhiyare masjid ke sehan mein shaheed kia gaya ho katil bhi malom ho hakoomat qatil ki sarprasti kar rahi ho sectarian issue par tu kia phir aap apney defence ke liye asla rakho gai ya nahe ?
phir kia jo asla ohon ney rakha tha woh ziyada takatwar tha ya jo army ke pass hai woh ziyada hai.. har bara badmash kamzor or maskeen par yahi eilzam lagata hai . jesay america nay iraq par lagaya woh america jis ke ilawa aaj taak kisi or country nay insano par atom bomb nahe chalaya oss nay iraq par ilazam lagaya iss ke pass chemical weapons hain or petrol par kabzaey ka tareeka dhonda ..
phir lal masjid operation say kia paksitan mein asala kam howa ya ziyada howa ?
karachi ko de weponize karney ki baat ki tu mqm nay kia kaha ham nahe honey dain gai ?
musharaf nay chudary wajahat ko 3000 g 3 dilwai banned item hai oss ki private army hai kia woh jaiz tha ?
12 may ko karachi mein khoon ki nadi bahai or phir moqay lehra ke kaha mqm pay case bhi nahe ho ga kia woh mohabat gardi thi ?
kiya us ko enough time nHi diya gaya?
bhai jan kiss baat ka time . kia iss baat ka time ke masjid khali kar dain . issue kia thay .. issue yeh thay ke eik tu fahashi ko khatam kia jaye . jab say cable ayei thi siway video shop pay porn biknay ke ilawa koi or cheiz thi hi nahe video shops ke ilawa koi eik dukan batian jo jalii ho lal masjid ke bachon nay ?
jab anti shameem ke aday ki shikayat thana kohsara mein hoi tu police walon nay saf inkar kar dia ke ham iss par hath nahe dal saktay .tu jab larkiyan khud ja kar bahot soon ki anti shameem ko otha laye tu wohi police lal masjid pohanch gai mujhe aap batain ease kanoon or kanoon ke rakhwalon ki phir kon izzat karta .?
agar lal masjid waley extremist hotey tu sab ki anti shameem ko rangay haton pakarney par sangsar kartay magar ossey nehla kar wazo kara kar quran par kasam othawai phir nahe karey gi or chor dia .. ?
sab say bara issue tha wafaqul madaris ka .musharaf ke route ke darmiyan 7 masjidein ati thi woh gira di gai .. lal masjid ka mutalba tha woh masjid restore ki jaye .kia on masjids ko wahan say thorey door tameer karwaaney ki option di gai ?
kiya un se mazakray nahi kiye gaye?
bhai sahab koi mozakrat nahe howe mein musharaf nay face saving ke liye chudary shujat or ijazulhaq or chand fazlurehman jesay dram e bazon ko bheja kia aap batana pasand karein gai woh kia term and conditions lay kar aye thay or shaheede azam ghazi sahab nay kon si baat nahe mani or on ki terms kia thi ?
by the way chudry shujat or abhi kuch din pehlay ijazul haq qoam say ilaniya mafi maang chokey hain ke hameny resign bhi dena cheye tha or yeh ke musharaf ka trial bhi ho or yeh ke musharaf or shukat aziz muzakrat nahe chatey thay ham nay beach mein parney ki koshish ki or jab ham musharaf or shukat aziz say baat kartay tu woh hanstay thay.
kiya IMAM e KABA ne un se request nahi ki? Ke yeh sab kuch chor do aur mazakrat kar lo?
imam e kaba ki term and condition lay kar aye thay yeh zaroor batna bhai jan i myself is not clear mein lal masjid operation say kuch din pahlay paksitan say bahir a gaya tha molana abdul aziz say molaqat hoi tu pochon ga ..so iss baat pay abhi mazrat .

kiya un logo ne armed forces ka muqabla nahi kiya?
bhai jan mein aap ke ghar pay hamla karon tu kia aap wapis jawab nahe dain gai .. aap par larai impose ki jaye tu aap kia karein gai?

kiya hamre commados shaheed nahi hue?
bhai jan mein aap ke ghar par hamla karon or aap ke ghar say bhi mujh koi wapis shoot karey tu mere ghar waley yeh baat ka case karwain gai ke mein nay self defence mein aap ke ghar par hamla kia or aap nay mujhe goli mari .. bhai jan army waley hamla karney gai thay mohasara kia tha lalamasjid ka ya lal masjid nay ghq ka mohasara kia tha ?
or yeh bhi batata chalon ke operation say pehlay eik halicoptar aa kar khara howa tha lalmasjid ke oper jis say bachey or bachiyon nay yeh samjah ke on par air attack honey laga hai tu woh mushtail ho gai oss halicoptar say pictures li gai thi oss ke baad bachon nay pass ministry of environment ki building par hamla kar dia. so that was start.
you tube par ome hassaan bi bi ka last khotaba para hai son lena .. jab army bahir khari thi tu ome hassan nay kia kaha tha ke tumhey tu hamari hifazat karni cheye thi par tum hamari hi chadron ka shikar karney a gai ho

kiya us masjid main weapen nahi thay
is ka answer mein oper dai choka hon that dsnt seems even a question to me .han uzbak or chachan ke barey mein molana ghazi sahab nay kaha tha jab ham shaheed ho jaien gai tu media walon ko nahe aney dia jaye ga jab tak hamey dafan nahe karein gai or wohi howa . mujhe eik bhi chachan ya uzbik ka nam pata lash batana jo shaheed ho lala masjid mein .. please .

iss ke ilawa eik bahot bara pass manzar hai .woh loag sabit kadam rahey apni shahdat li or chal diya or ham sharukh khan ke islam ke pojari jo kehta hai mere bachay quran ko bhi salam kartey hain or bhagwan ko bhi bus easa islam chey hamey bhi so iss liye chup kar ke bethay rahey marnay do army ko onhein .. ham sab musharaf ke sath baraber ke shareek hain iss jurm mein ..

Ap ki yeh expalination bohat hi chidiesh hai, anyway main zayada kuch nahi kaho ga, yaha bohat samjdar log iss ko par kar khud hi ap ke response per comment karein gay.
Ap aslah aur wo bhi masjid ke andar phir ap us ko defened kar rahe ho.. Ap khud socho kia keh rahe ho. Log faisla karein gay ke kiya sahi kiya ghalat.... Thanks for your response anyways

 

[Khan.paki]

Aur please dont use his word shahadat its a big word. Atleast yeh log jino ne masjid ki hurmat ko pamal kiya aur majbooran army ko operation karna para. Un ko kissi keemat pe shaheed mat kahoo.

 

[hassanattique]

Brother as i have already said that i am not supporting Lal masjid people but i am opposing how was the operation carried out. They can do the operation with different ways. As i said they can cutoff all the food electricity water resources and just wait when they come out. Aik na aik din tu bahir ana hee tha jb ap kuch bacho ki jaan zarur bachaa laitay. Second at least instead of using bombs ap bayhoosh krnay ky shells fire krr saktay thaay after i think itna amoo hy pak army ky pas. Bt they took the wrong choice of doing operation.

There is one in prison my uncle took part in operation and he knows all detail. They gave them all the safe passages and only problem was foreigners Uzbek , chachan and afghani. They knew if they got safe passage then how they ill hide these Foreigners dats y Mullah did not accept this and kill our army man. Now tell me if some one kill our army want they suppose to deserve?

 

[Moosa_ibn_Ali]

Only answer to your question is: All terrorism, suicide bombing and TTP is the result of this operation!!!
Electricity cut, food and water supply cut, tear gas usage and many other tactics could have saved many lives .. Army got angry and therevenge of one Ranger's death was the beginning of this CHAOS we are living in today.

u.s.a kay kisi action pay ye AAR MEE angry nahi hoti........
wahaan pay sirf ---- ---- ----- ---- ----.....

 

[Moosa_ibn_Ali]

There is one in prison my uncle took part in operation and he knows all detail. They gave them all the safe passages and only problem was foreigners Uzbek , chachan and afghani. They knew if they got safe passage then how they ill hide these Foreigners dats y Mullah did not accept this and kill our army man. Now tell me if some one kill our army want they suppose to deserve?

slala chek post pay U.S.A ne kitnay army walay pherkaye.....
wahan pay kia kiya tumhari arr mee ne ????????????????

 

[authentic]

100% justified so simple it is. Per qaum hai tukron may bati hui.

 

[zhohaq]

Ap ki yeh expalination bohat hi chidiesh hai, anyway main zayada kuch nahi kaho ga, yaha bohat samjdar log iss ko par kar khud hi ap ke response per comment karein gay.
Ap aslah aur wo bhi masjid ke andar phir ap us ko defened kar rahe ho.. Ap khud socho kia keh rahe ho. Log faisla karein gay ke kiya sahi kiya ghalat.... Thanks for your response anyways

So why did you even open the thread if you wont even respond properly?
You are wasting everyone time. You arent interested in the truth or a proper debate.

 

[indigo]

there was no wgirl women or child was killed in lal masjid operation... last time mulana sb on when talking about drone (on capital talk) attacks dint mention about this... because if you assk him in person, he will acknwwledge that there was no kid or women dead.... I agree with thread starter

 

[insaf_tiger]

yar yeh kia bakwas shoro ho gai .. hai .. ..any way mera .. on tamam logon ko jo musharaf or anti shameem ko defend kartay hain ..on ke liye or apney liye yahi dowa hai .. ya allah mujhe qayamat ke din molana abdulrasheed shaheed or lal masjid ke shaheedon ke sath khara karna .. or on logon ko jo jihad ko tu gali samjhtay hain magar kisi corrupt corruption king ***** ki moat marney par ossay shaheed kehtay hain .. on ko musharaf or anti shameem ke sath khara karna ... ameennn .. tum logon mein hai himat tu mango apney musharaf or anti shameem ke sath ki dowa roze mehsahar mein dekhta hon tum logon mein siwaye kuch kafrion ke koi muslim kesay yeh dowa mangta hai .. or oss apney bhagorey musharaf ko kehana molana abdul aziz sahab aaj bhi jamia hafsa mein hain tu bhruqa pehan kar hi zara pakistan a tu sahi *********

 

[insaf_tiger]

indigo sahab kisi din g 6 jana or wahan anti shameem ka pochana woh kia karti thi or loag kitnay tang thay oss say khuda na karey aap ke sath waley ghar mein koi anti sahameem a basi tu pochon ga .. jab gahak pay gahak ghar ke bahir gari park kar rahey hon gai or aap ke ghar walon ka ana jana bhi mushkil ho jaye ga.. rahi baat bachiyon ki tu aap parliment ke samney chaley jaye ga kisi din aap ko woh camp mil jaye ga jis mein on bachiyon ke waldain with amna janjua ke mil jain gi 5 sal say protest kar rahi hai... bahot sari bachiyan easi thi jo zalzaley ke baad kashmir or abotabad side say aye thi jin ka koi wali waris nahe tha on ka tu namo nisahan hi nahe mila ... mein aap ko eik banday ka pata batata hon oss ka nam tha aslam woh rawaldame ki jo chak sahzad wali side hai wahan oss ki motor machanic ki shop thi osss ki beti jamia hafsa mein thi woh lenay gaya tha ossey na oss ki beti ayi na aslam khud wapis aya .. kisi din oss ke ghar ja kar pochana ..

 

[seekers]

لال مسجد والوں سے اختلاف اپنی جگہ ، لیکن گری ہوئی زبان کا استعمال سراسر زیادتی ہے ، اس تھریڈ سٹارٹر کو بین کیا جاۓ

@adeel


@waseem

 

[insaf_tiger]

yakeenan yeh aap ki bahot kareeb foreigner innocent friend hai issi ke barey mein oper kisi nay post mein likha hamarey innocent foreingers ko otha liya .. yeh musharaf ke janey ke baad raid howa tha cat house par ... or woh jo chines othai thi woh f 8 wali .. 700 mein bottel .. or 1400 mein bottel with girl .. mujhe ab street bhol gai hai but yeh yaad hai corner wala ghar tha or end par eagle squard ke 2 bike kharey rahtay thay jesay hi koi bottel bachi lay ke nikalta woh sir par jaatey thay apna hisa lenay ..oh ho sorry mein kin say behas kar raha hon jesay inhein pata nahe sorry boss

 

[insaf_tiger]

nahe oye stater bhi apna shazada hai .. ik ki picture lagi hai oss ke sath sir ankhon par .. bus stater bhi thora mummy dady ziyada hai becharey ko samjh nahe a rahi issue kia hai .. woh kisi jahil molvi ko ghazi sahab ke sath compare kar raha hai ...yeh beach mein kuch loag wild ho gai hain gali galooch nahe baba .. ... jitna zulm musharaf nay dhaya hai ham sab as nation shamil thay warna easa koi wakia kabhi bhi na hota .mein tu bonyadi tor par ahmadiyon ko bhi na haq marney ke khilaf hon paksitan mein ahmadi kisi bhi koam say ziyada mazlom hai oss ka tu parcha hi nahe darj hota thaney mein oss ko koi mar jaye tu ..bahot bheyanak situation ho gai hai .. logon ko issue samjh nahe a rahey ...or issue hai sirf or sirf na insafi .. inshallah apna cheeta imran theek karey ga inshallah . baki allah behtar janta hai

 

[P4kistani]

InshahAllah Hisab tu iunka b hoga jinho ne apna hi islam aur apni hi shairyat banie hai...

Operation Silence Waqt ki Zorert thie.... Beshak Allah Islam aur Pakistan k dushman ko Burqay wali Muat hi Ata farmay ga Ameen!!

kia khubsurat baat kahi hai (clap)

dil karta hai aap ke haath choom loon jin haaton se aap ne yeh post likhi hai (clap)

 

[Pure_pakistani]

to abuse someone and to get abused in response is not a big deal,the big deal is to respect and b respected in response but sometime some morally cheap people post such an abusive and darogatory comment that hit u personaly and in response turn ur mind to respond in the same language but we must differentiate the who offended and who defended in response

 

[Moosa_ibn_Ali]

there was no wgirl women or child was killed in lal masjid operation... last time mulana sb on when talking about drone (on capital talk) attacks dint mention about this... because if you assk him in person, he will acknwwledge that there was no kid or women dead.... I agree with thread starter

(witness special 4 episod) attack walay din ki aur pehlay 3 din ki . video dekho... sara kuchh samaj mean aa jaye ghay... aapkay media mean itni ikhlaqi jurat aur himat hi nahi jo sach dikhata..

 

[aneeskhan]

It,s Just shame on all pro Islamic or so called Lal Masjid fanaticc they are simply KAZIB claiming baachiyyan Shaheed Huin
inspite Maulana Aziz Burqa samet All females evacuated on given time ,except extra fanatics fought with Pak Army and Allhamdolillah PAk Army got rid of terrorist.