Pakistani92
Senator (1k+ posts)
pata nahi kyou mujy lagta hai kay hum log din ba din pechay ki taraf ja rahay hai, kaisay issues mein ulaj jatay hai deen kay nam pay.
Lahore Bar council puts a ban on Shezan Drinks
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Babatank
Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: A Shezan a day, keeps the mullah away
@ crankthskunk
So what are you trying to prove? Read Quran, study the Sunnah ofpbuh for God's sake.
You are a lost soul dude. For what reason you hate Ahmadis, I am not interested in it.
Your horizon is very narrow and you should talk to kiddies about it, maybe you can impress them more with your " I can prove this and that" bla bla...
You are a liar, and it is very well known to me, and I do not like to talk on serious issues with a liar! Keep your ummah with you and do whatever you can to stop the Ahmadiyya - Your fate is sealed, you will face your own destruction!!!
@ crankthskunk
About which Ummah are you talking about? The Ummah of Mullahism?
Ahmadis give blood to save life's, and you, you take blood to kill people. What is going in Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Bahrain, Palestina, Libya, Tunisia and so on...?
Let me think for awhile... hmmm.... in Quran Allah says: [2:286] This Messenger of Ours believes in that which has been revealed to him from his Lord, and so do the believers: all of them believe in Allah, and in His angels, and in His Books, and in His Messengers, saying, ‘We make no distinction between any of His Messengers;’ and they say, ‘We hear, and we obey. We implore Thy forgiveness, O our Lord, and to Thee is the returning.’
So what are you trying to prove? Read Quran, study the Sunnah ofpbuh for God's sake.
You are a lost soul dude. For what reason you hate Ahmadis, I am not interested in it.
Your horizon is very narrow and you should talk to kiddies about it, maybe you can impress them more with your " I can prove this and that" bla bla...
You are a liar, and it is very well known to me, and I do not like to talk on serious issues with a liar! Keep your ummah with you and do whatever you can to stop the Ahmadiyya - Your fate is sealed, you will face your own destruction!!!
Re: A Shezan a day, keeps the mullah away
Fate is sealed . . . . Or ya aap ko wo mardood mirza bata ka gia tha . . . . America uglay saal yahan sa farigh ho jai ga . . . . Or ginti ginna shuru ar dou a kub khurrasan sa Taliban aahtay hain . . . . Ub tuk tu tum Qadiyanioun ko Pakistani Fauj na bachaya hua tha . . . . Likin aagay aisa nai ho sakay ga . . . .
Taliban jub aingay tu phir koi Rabwa nahi ho ga . . . . Is liay abhi waqt hai bhaag jao . . . .
Fate is sealed . . . . Or ya aap ko wo mardood mirza bata ka gia tha . . . . America uglay saal yahan sa farigh ho jai ga . . . . Or ginti ginna shuru ar dou a kub khurrasan sa Taliban aahtay hain . . . . Ub tuk tu tum Qadiyanioun ko Pakistani Fauj na bachaya hua tha . . . . Likin aagay aisa nai ho sakay ga . . . .
Taliban jub aingay tu phir koi Rabwa nahi ho ga . . . . Is liay abhi waqt hai bhaag jao . . . .
iceburg
Banned
Re: A Shezan a day, keeps the mullah away
Amrika k jaane ka intzaar ho raha hai. Khud nahi nikaal sakte kya? Wo log tum ko fatah karne k baad zinda chorr k ja rahe hain. Kuch insaaniyat seekh lo on se. And secondly Shezan shops pe main ne khud likha dekha hai ... wo owner bechara tu apni shops pe Qadiyaniat se apni la-taulluqi zahir karta hai lakin phir bhi tum bharriye log os ka peecha nahi chorrte.
Amrika k jaane ka intzaar ho raha hai. Khud nahi nikaal sakte kya? Wo log tum ko fatah karne k baad zinda chorr k ja rahe hain. Kuch insaaniyat seekh lo on se. And secondly Shezan shops pe main ne khud likha dekha hai ... wo owner bechara tu apni shops pe Qadiyaniat se apni la-taulluqi zahir karta hai lakin phir bhi tum bharriye log os ka peecha nahi chorrte.
iceburg
Banned
Re: A Shezan a day, keeps the mullah away
Amrika se Jootiyan kha k khud ko fatahmand samajhne waale log ho tum. Tumhara bhala koi kya biggarr sakta hai. Jab khud joote khaate ho tu aise pose karte rehte jaise tum ko joota parra nahi balke tum ne maara hai.
Tumhain main bata bhi chukka hoon k shaizan shops pe likh k display kiya hua hai ... Qadiyaniyat se izhar-e-La-taluqqi ... Phir bhi tumhare dimagh pe sheizan shezan chaya hua hai aur nafrat bhari hui hai ... Tum log kuch bhi positive nahi kar rahe ho. Siraf ye saabit karte rehte ho k Musalman aik janooni, hypocrite aur Mut-assab qaum hain...!!!
Amrika se Jootiyan kha k khud ko fatahmand samajhne waale log ho tum. Tumhara bhala koi kya biggarr sakta hai. Jab khud joote khaate ho tu aise pose karte rehte jaise tum ko joota parra nahi balke tum ne maara hai.
Tumhain main bata bhi chukka hoon k shaizan shops pe likh k display kiya hua hai ... Qadiyaniyat se izhar-e-La-taluqqi ... Phir bhi tumhare dimagh pe sheizan shezan chaya hua hai aur nafrat bhari hui hai ... Tum log kuch bhi positive nahi kar rahe ho. Siraf ye saabit karte rehte ho k Musalman aik janooni, hypocrite aur Mut-assab qaum hain...!!!
crankthskunk
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: A Shezan a day, keeps the mullah away
I am going to ignore your childish comments. I am confident on my knowledge, presentations, arguments, evidence that I can take on any Qadianis any time of the day and year. You confident? If so take up the challenge instead of passing silly comments. There is no better way to find out, then to test it.
All the wars you mentioned, do you something common in them? Let me make it easy for you.
Who attacked Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Lebanon, and now interfering in Syria like they did in Libya?
Who is threatening to attack Iran?
Who has been killing Palestinians for 60 years and who is their biggest supporters, by money, arms, diplomatic help, help in the UN?
Who is financing, providing training, arms and ammunition to carry out terrorists attacks in Pakistan?
You see what you are doing?
You are making my point exactly. If it is down to you you would support the elimination of all Muslims. Says all about your lie "Love for all hatred for none" crap. Do you know the origin of this phrase? Do a little research and you would find, it was originally adopted by the Fa**ggots. True.
Now the last point. Another standard lie and argument by all the Qadianis, equating Mirza Kazzab with the mighty Messengers of Allah SWT. Yes we don't make any distinctions between the true Prophets. But to liar like Mirza we call Kazzabs.
Here are proofs, bucket loads of them, if you have guts read it and if you feel good enough come and debate with me. It would save me time to waste on a child like you.
http://crankthatskunk.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/mirza-a-false-prophet/
Enough proofs on falsehood of Mirza in this article.
I am going to ignore your childish comments. I am confident on my knowledge, presentations, arguments, evidence that I can take on any Qadianis any time of the day and year. You confident? If so take up the challenge instead of passing silly comments. There is no better way to find out, then to test it.
All the wars you mentioned, do you something common in them? Let me make it easy for you.
Who attacked Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Lebanon, and now interfering in Syria like they did in Libya?
Who is threatening to attack Iran?
Who has been killing Palestinians for 60 years and who is their biggest supporters, by money, arms, diplomatic help, help in the UN?
Who is financing, providing training, arms and ammunition to carry out terrorists attacks in Pakistan?
You see what you are doing?
You are making my point exactly. If it is down to you you would support the elimination of all Muslims. Says all about your lie "Love for all hatred for none" crap. Do you know the origin of this phrase? Do a little research and you would find, it was originally adopted by the Fa**ggots. True.
Now the last point. Another standard lie and argument by all the Qadianis, equating Mirza Kazzab with the mighty Messengers of Allah SWT. Yes we don't make any distinctions between the true Prophets. But to liar like Mirza we call Kazzabs.
Here are proofs, bucket loads of them, if you have guts read it and if you feel good enough come and debate with me. It would save me time to waste on a child like you.
http://crankthatskunk.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/mirza-a-false-prophet/
Enough proofs on falsehood of Mirza in this article.
w-a-n-t-e-d-
Minister (2k+ posts)
[h=3]نبوت کا جھوٹا دعویدار مرزا غلام احمد قادیانی اپنے ہی فتوی سے کافر
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BuTurabi
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
@moazzamniaz
اِس موضوع پر آپکی مُدلل اور مؤثر گُفتگو جہاں دِل کو چھوُتی ہے وہاں ذہن کو ٹہونکا بھی لگاتی ہے۔
ایسی ہی بودی اور نفرت سے لبریز دلیل اِنسان کی کھلڑی میں گھُس بیٹھیئے طالبان اور دیگر تکفیری گِروہ بھی دیتے ہیں جب وہ ڈرون حملوں کااِنتقام لینے کیلئے مساجد، مزاروں، اِمام بارگاہوں، بازاروں اور غیر مُسلموں کی عبادت گاہوں کو نِشانہ بناتے بناتے خود بھی جہنم کی حِدت کا میں اِضافے کا باعث بن جاتے ہیں۔
ایک بھلے مانس نے کِسی ٹاک شو میں دورانِ بحث سوال اُٹھایا تھا، کیا ڈرونز اِمام بارگاہوں اور مزاروں سے اُڑتے ہیں؟
معقول جواب سے فرار کی روایت وہاں بھی اِنکی "مددگار" تھی۔
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Re: A Shezan a day, keeps the mullah away
if they attack they enmies from outside.But you attacking on poor Ahmadies all the time . You can.t see the difference between two stutions .You are in majority and behaving like America with Ahmadies
if they attack they enmies from outside.But you attacking on poor Ahmadies all the time . You can.t see the difference between two stutions .You are in majority and behaving like America with Ahmadies
crankthskunk
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: A Shezan a day, keeps the mullah away
I am not. I said two fundamental things, I don't believe in any violence against them and they should be free to practice their religion like any other minority.
The problem is their religion, not Islam, or calling themselves "Real Muslims" and all the Muslims as "Kaffirs". Can't you see the difference? They have been calling Muslims as "Kaffirs" for over a 120 years now. Only recently the Muslims declared them non-Muslims and rightly so.
Secondly, I object to your use of "Ahmedis" for them, this is term used by ignorant Muslims who fall in the trap set by the Qadianis.
Let me enlighten you, they claim from the time of Mirza that Mirza Kazzab was "Ahmed" whose advent was foretold in the "Bible" and whose name is mentioned in the Holy Quran Nauzobillah. When as a matter of fact he was "Ghulam of Ahmed". But these liars keep paddling their lies.
Therefore, my request to all the Muslims reading this post, neverever call them "Ahmedis". This is their dirty attempt to steal honour of our Beloved Prophet Muhammad SAWpbuh, whose name was also "Ahmed"pbuh. He SAWpbuh was foretold in the Bible and whose name is mentioned as "Ahmed" and also as "Muhammad" pbuh in the Holy Quran.
I had devised a test for the Qadianis, I have given it a name "Butler Test". What it is?
I have challenged any Qadiani to take me to a court of Law and prove that a " Butler" or the Driver to the King/Queen could remove his profession and title from his name and call himself/herself as "The King" or "the Queen".
Thats what Mirza Kazzab has done and what Qadianis do, remove "Ghulam" from the name of accursed Mirza and call him "Ahmed"pbuh. When he in fact was "Ghulam of Ahmed" and not "Ahmed"pbuh, another name of my beloved prophet Muhammad SAWpbuh.
I hope all my Muslims brothers and sisters understand my post and stop calling these people as Ahmedis:jazak:.
I am not. I said two fundamental things, I don't believe in any violence against them and they should be free to practice their religion like any other minority.
The problem is their religion, not Islam, or calling themselves "Real Muslims" and all the Muslims as "Kaffirs". Can't you see the difference? They have been calling Muslims as "Kaffirs" for over a 120 years now. Only recently the Muslims declared them non-Muslims and rightly so.
Secondly, I object to your use of "Ahmedis" for them, this is term used by ignorant Muslims who fall in the trap set by the Qadianis.
Let me enlighten you, they claim from the time of Mirza that Mirza Kazzab was "Ahmed" whose advent was foretold in the "Bible" and whose name is mentioned in the Holy Quran Nauzobillah. When as a matter of fact he was "Ghulam of Ahmed". But these liars keep paddling their lies.
Therefore, my request to all the Muslims reading this post, neverever call them "Ahmedis". This is their dirty attempt to steal honour of our Beloved Prophet Muhammad SAWpbuh, whose name was also "Ahmed"pbuh. He SAWpbuh was foretold in the Bible and whose name is mentioned as "Ahmed" and also as "Muhammad" pbuh in the Holy Quran.
I had devised a test for the Qadianis, I have given it a name "Butler Test". What it is?
I have challenged any Qadiani to take me to a court of Law and prove that a " Butler" or the Driver to the King/Queen could remove his profession and title from his name and call himself/herself as "The King" or "the Queen".
Thats what Mirza Kazzab has done and what Qadianis do, remove "Ghulam" from the name of accursed Mirza and call him "Ahmed"pbuh. When he in fact was "Ghulam of Ahmed" and not "Ahmed"pbuh, another name of my beloved prophet Muhammad SAWpbuh.
I hope all my Muslims brothers and sisters understand my post and stop calling these people as Ahmedis:jazak:.
آزاد امیدوار
Minister (2k+ posts)
کُچھ مُلکوں میں چمچہ گیری کی سزا موت ہے۔
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mehwish_ali
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
جی نہیں، یہاں انسانی حقوق کا مسئلہ ہے اور تمام وہ لوگ جو انسانیت پر یقین رکھتے ہیں (چاہے انکا تعلق کسی مذہب، نسل و گروہ سے ہو) تو اس ظلم کے خلاف یکساں ہو کر آواز اٹھا رہے ہیں۔
اصل مسئلہ ہے کہ اس ظلم اور ناانصافی کرنے کے حق میں کون آواز اٹھا رہا ہے؟
تو یہ فقط اور فقط مذہبی جنونی ہیں جو اپنا شر و فتنہ پھیلاتے ہوئے ہر انسانی حقوق کو پامال کرتے ہوئے اسلام کو بدنام کر رہے ہیں۔
اصل مسئلہ ہے کہ اس ظلم اور ناانصافی کرنے کے حق میں کون آواز اٹھا رہا ہے؟
تو یہ فقط اور فقط مذہبی جنونی ہیں جو اپنا شر و فتنہ پھیلاتے ہوئے ہر انسانی حقوق کو پامال کرتے ہوئے اسلام کو بدنام کر رہے ہیں۔
khawaja555
Councller (250+ posts)
aapkay ghar main haya ka bi phera lagta he ya us kay beghair hi guzara hota he? apni saari baatain jo tum nay likhi hain un ko parho...............ek baat aisi nahin jis ka bani nau ko koi faeda ho......................ALLAH TAALA nay ye dunya be maqsad nahin banai............kuch ghor karo.................aur QURAANEKAREEM to tadabbur ki dawat bar bar deta he ...........kabi is par bi dehaan do................
BuTurabi
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
BuTurabi
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
عزت دو عزت لو، اُمید ہے ایک بات ابتک سمجھ گئے ہوگے کہ نہ چھیڑتا ہوں نہ چھوڑتا ہوں۔
Khalid
Minister (2k+ posts)
But Taliban/Mullahs are doing very constructive work in swat and other parts of country. It is true patriotic spirit. People killed by these patriots in bazars and mosques is great service to country . Look how country is suffering because of thei services to this nation
iceburg
Banned
Why ulema are so touchy to Qadiyani issue...???
Qadiyaniat by nature is a POLITICAL (in religious spheres) threat to ulema.
Because Ulema are comfortable if Qadiyanis accept themselves a separate religion and don't insist that they are Muslims. They are uncomfortable only if Qadiyanis insist that they are true Muslims.
Implications of such a position taken by ulema:
Such a position of ulema clearly shows that ulema actually don't believe that Prophet (PBUH) is the last Prophet. Because if Qadiyanies start believing in Mirza Sahib as a full fledged Nabi and in this way make a whole new religion, then ulema are quite comfortable.
They are uncomfortable only when Qadiyanies insist that their Nabi is still Prophet (PBUH) , Mirza Sahib is Imam Mehdi and the Promissed Masih and with having these two titles, automatically qualifies for a sub-ordinate nabi to Prophet (PBUH) ... then this is the point where ulema feel a severe political threat.
Ab agar Qadiyanies ko Muslim samajh liya jaye tu iss ka matlab ho ga k Mirza Sahib is true Imam Mehdi. Agar Mirza Sahib true Imam Mehdi hain tu phir baaqi saare ulema/peeron ki Gadiyyan aur religious authorities khatre main aa jaati hain. In this way they feel a political threat.
"Khatam Nabuwat" waghaira pe ulema ka koi eman waghaira nahi hai because agar Qadiyanies Mirza Sahib ko indipendent nabi samajh kar apna aik elehda religion declare kar dein ... then ulema are quite comfortable ... because phir on ki apni gaddi/ religious authorities ko koi khatra nahi ho ga.
This is all what is going on in anti-qadiyani camp ... and it is all political in nature.
Qadiyaniat by nature is a POLITICAL (in religious spheres) threat to ulema.
Because Ulema are comfortable if Qadiyanis accept themselves a separate religion and don't insist that they are Muslims. They are uncomfortable only if Qadiyanis insist that they are true Muslims.
Implications of such a position taken by ulema:
Such a position of ulema clearly shows that ulema actually don't believe that Prophet (PBUH) is the last Prophet. Because if Qadiyanies start believing in Mirza Sahib as a full fledged Nabi and in this way make a whole new religion, then ulema are quite comfortable.
They are uncomfortable only when Qadiyanies insist that their Nabi is still Prophet (PBUH) , Mirza Sahib is Imam Mehdi and the Promissed Masih and with having these two titles, automatically qualifies for a sub-ordinate nabi to Prophet (PBUH) ... then this is the point where ulema feel a severe political threat.
Ab agar Qadiyanies ko Muslim samajh liya jaye tu iss ka matlab ho ga k Mirza Sahib is true Imam Mehdi. Agar Mirza Sahib true Imam Mehdi hain tu phir baaqi saare ulema/peeron ki Gadiyyan aur religious authorities khatre main aa jaati hain. In this way they feel a political threat.
"Khatam Nabuwat" waghaira pe ulema ka koi eman waghaira nahi hai because agar Qadiyanies Mirza Sahib ko indipendent nabi samajh kar apna aik elehda religion declare kar dein ... then ulema are quite comfortable ... because phir on ki apni gaddi/ religious authorities ko koi khatra nahi ho ga.
This is all what is going on in anti-qadiyani camp ... and it is all political in nature.
Babatank
Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: A Shezan a day, keeps the mullah away
Look it has been mentioned many times in the discussion above that there is no point in wasting time in arguments. The way you have been using the language for Mirza Sahib and for his community, indeed show how much you have learnt, how much you have remembered and how much you are practicing from the actual teachings of Muhammadpbuh.
So me or any other moderate Muslim can no way compete you in such kind of hate-race and unethical language. So I will not use bad words for you, will not pray for your death and family miseries etc... This is because me and any other true Muslim knows that this is not for what Islam started, and this is not even to close to what pbuh taught. You may respond with lot of more abuses but just think for one moment would his soul be happy with your any other person who calls himself Muslim, using such words ? JUST think for once. For you your religion, and for me my religion. CASE CLOSED
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Look it has been mentioned many times in the discussion above that there is no point in wasting time in arguments. The way you have been using the language for Mirza Sahib and for his community, indeed show how much you have learnt, how much you have remembered and how much you are practicing from the actual teachings of Muhammadpbuh.
So me or any other moderate Muslim can no way compete you in such kind of hate-race and unethical language. So I will not use bad words for you, will not pray for your death and family miseries etc... This is because me and any other true Muslim knows that this is not for what Islam started, and this is not even to close to what pbuh taught. You may respond with lot of more abuses but just think for one moment would his soul be happy with your any other person who calls himself Muslim, using such words ? JUST think for once. For you your religion, and for me my religion. CASE CLOSED
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