Kal Tak - 5th December 2011 - Hanif Jalandhari,Agha Mazahar Hussain & Mufti Hanif
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Nadeem Zaidi
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Javaid Ch. nay PhD kar rakhi ho gi. Siasat dunya ko parhatay ho'n gay, science, jughrafia, qanoon, or hikmat bhi achi jantay ho'n gay, or doosray ulooom par bhi khooob maharat rakhtay ho'n gay magar
Javaid Ch. nay aaj sabit kia hay keh woh bain-ul-masalik ikhtalafaat say or tareekh-e-islam say nawaqif honay kay sath sath bain ul masalak rawayyo'n or un rawayyo'n ki bunyadi wajoohaat say bilkul naa aashna hay.
Is topic par jis kisi ko bhi bat karnay ka shoq ho woh Sunni Aalim Moulana Muhammad Ishaq sahab ko discussion mai'n zaroor shamil karay kiooo'n keh mujhay yaqeen hay keh Moulana Ishaq ki shamooliat say yeh discussion baghair kisi faislay kay ya jhoot par khatam nahee'n ho gi or sun'nay walo'n ko afaqa bhi ho ga.
Javaid Ch. nay aaj sabit kia hay keh woh bain-ul-masalik ikhtalafaat say or tareekh-e-islam say nawaqif honay kay sath sath bain ul masalak rawayyo'n or un rawayyo'n ki bunyadi wajoohaat say bilkul naa aashna hay.
Is topic par jis kisi ko bhi bat karnay ka shoq ho woh Sunni Aalim Moulana Muhammad Ishaq sahab ko discussion mai'n zaroor shamil karay kiooo'n keh mujhay yaqeen hay keh Moulana Ishaq ki shamooliat say yeh discussion baghair kisi faislay kay ya jhoot par khatam nahee'n ho gi or sun'nay walo'n ko afaqa bhi ho ga.
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what is this plz agar koi is video ko dekh kar pir comments kare
kya ye such hai aisa bhee hoo sakta hai plz all viewers comments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lJf-1pDpdo
kya ye such hai aisa bhee hoo sakta hai plz all viewers comments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lJf-1pDpdo
evanescence
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Yaar plz for God sake dont trust these kind of videos and plz plz plz do understand that Youtube is not only the way of getting information. Try to investigate the things on your own, listen to others and then analyze it by yourself.
evanescence
MPA (400+ posts)
Initially program aired very beautifully and i thought our muslim scholars had learned alot from their past. But regret to say they are still like DOG'S TAIL. No body ready to bear at all even knowing that they are on media and about to give message to nation.
Solution of these issues are very straight, we need to establish a code of conduct about these controversial speeches and literature. In our speeches and in our jamaats we should evolve a culture of mutual understading, respect and harmony. I am sunni and follow tahir-ul-qadri and i think i blessed by the Almighty withe love of Ahle Bait. They are our real heroes. And for the people of Pakistan i would request that plz plz plz dont consider any kind of abusive material leave them at their own and just respect others listen what they say, absorb good and vomit bad, thats it.
Commenting on these scholars i must condemn that sunni scholar he should shut his mouth on those issue who ends up brawl.
Solution of these issues are very straight, we need to establish a code of conduct about these controversial speeches and literature. In our speeches and in our jamaats we should evolve a culture of mutual understading, respect and harmony. I am sunni and follow tahir-ul-qadri and i think i blessed by the Almighty withe love of Ahle Bait. They are our real heroes. And for the people of Pakistan i would request that plz plz plz dont consider any kind of abusive material leave them at their own and just respect others listen what they say, absorb good and vomit bad, thats it.
Commenting on these scholars i must condemn that sunni scholar he should shut his mouth on those issue who ends up brawl.
I think Hanif Qureshi was spot on. We need to address the issues than keeping them in hearts. We speak respect at face yet the time we part, we start speaking trash about the others. Why not speak it openly on tv so the actual matters come out and get some solution where this disrespect and insulting behaviour stops.
I will only quote a single experience out of many here. There was a very very close friend of mine who worked with me. We had discussions upon these issues too but he always remained respectful and actually showed that he agreed to me as I had presented concrete dialogue at some issues and had asked for counter argument too without any grudge in my mind. He too presented his point but very politely but the time he and his family moved to USA, his posts on facebook could be seen containing the kind of language discussed here so I countered him with reasoning. What was his reaction? He unfriended me because he didn't have answers. I was not uncivil at any point in time through these discussions as I don't deem it necessary but he consistently kept on doing it and ultimately did what I have pointed out. It is just one of the examples. We need to face the menaces of sectarianism than to keep quiet as we did for so much time and with the slightest of provocation, killings started throughout the country.
I will only quote a single experience out of many here. There was a very very close friend of mine who worked with me. We had discussions upon these issues too but he always remained respectful and actually showed that he agreed to me as I had presented concrete dialogue at some issues and had asked for counter argument too without any grudge in my mind. He too presented his point but very politely but the time he and his family moved to USA, his posts on facebook could be seen containing the kind of language discussed here so I countered him with reasoning. What was his reaction? He unfriended me because he didn't have answers. I was not uncivil at any point in time through these discussions as I don't deem it necessary but he consistently kept on doing it and ultimately did what I have pointed out. It is just one of the examples. We need to face the menaces of sectarianism than to keep quiet as we did for so much time and with the slightest of provocation, killings started throughout the country.
w-a-n-t-e-d-
Minister (2k+ posts)
Wahh Shiuon Ka EtraaF K Wo Kia Hai (clap)
Nadeem Zaidi
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This is like good boys........
Javaid Choudhary Sahab aap nay 2nd part on air na kar kay aqalmand honay ka saboot dia hay...
I really appreciate your action.
Javaid Choudhary Sahab aap nay 2nd part on air na kar kay aqalmand honay ka saboot dia hay...
I really appreciate your action.
Nadeem Zaidi
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w-a-n-t-e-d- sahab aap khush ho jaow... khoob taaliaa'n peeto.Wahh Shiuon Ka EtraaF K Wo Kia Hai
Hala'n keh aap kay paish kardah clip mai'n "Shiuon kay etraaf" wali to koi baat nahee'n albattah jo baat us clip mai'n mojood hay jab aap usay samjho gay to maira eeman hay keh us kay baad aap taaliaa'n nahee'n bulkeh apna sar peeto gay...
(clap) yeh taaliaa'n aap ki aqalmandi kay liay hai'n... (clap)
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Nadeem Zaidi
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Well said Temojin... I am 100% agreed... but we need some sense-able ULAMA for such discussion. Aalims like Mufti can put the whole country on fire within one talk show only and the same was going on...
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Nadeem Zaidi
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What about speaking only the truth being the code of conduct?
Sunni ya shia ki baja'ay agar ham sub haq ka sath daina shuru kar dai'n to yaqeen karai'n keh dunya phir say rehnay ka qabil ban ja'ay... magar Mufti jaisay Muftay aisa nahee'n honay daitay.... un ko apni dokano'n kay band honay ka khatra shuru ho jata hay...
Discouraging and condemning own people when they deserve is the most beautiful path towards Muslims Unity and I appreciate your comments evanescence.
Nadeem Zaidi
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Chacha mulk mai'n fire brigade ki gariaa'n kam hai'n is liay 2nd part on air nahee'n kia express walo'n nay...
w-a-n-t-e-d-
Minister (2k+ posts)
Queue Farms
Banned
دین ملا فی سبیل اللہ فساد
ان مولویوں سے کوئی امید نہیں ، مولانا اسحاق فیصل آبادی جیسے عالم ہی ان مسائل کو حل کر سکتے ہیں .
ان مولویوں سے کوئی امید نہیں ، مولانا اسحاق فیصل آبادی جیسے عالم ہی ان مسائل کو حل کر سکتے ہیں .
Nadeem Zaidi
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Mujhay maloom hay keh aap kay mazhab mai'n mazloomeen pay gir'ya ya zalim say bay'zaari bilkul haram hay woh alag bat hay keh Quran Pak say yeh kaam Sunnat-e-Ambiaa-o-Masoomeen a.s., sabit hai'n.... Aap chaho to or ziada munh phar kay hans saktay ho...
Mujhay yeh bhi maloom hay keh oopar paish kardah Moulana Is'haq sahab ki sub batai'n aap nay idhar say sun kar UDHAR SAY nikaal di ho'n gi. Mazeed links paish e khidmat hai'n, shaed woh aap ko tehqeeq karnay par uksaa sakai'n. Or aap ko aap ki tehqeeq say pata chalay keh HAQ or BATIL kia hay, Kis ki kia WUQQAT hay or kis ki kia OQAAT...
Jin ko man'wanay kay liay aap khud-kush tak banay hooay hai'n un kay baray mai'n aap nay oopar kay clips mai'n kuch suna jo sun'na aap ko acha bhi nahee'n lagta magar kia karai'n such to such hi rehta hay chahay aap laakh idhar udhar bhagtay rahai'n samnay aata hi hay or ab aap mazeed kuch such apnay SUNNI MOLANA ki zubani hi sunai'n....
Very Good. (clap)
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w-a-n-t-e-d-
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yeh sunni molvi nahi ...
yeh ahlehadith firqa say tha pehlay bad main pura shia hogea yeh munafiq hai tum khodh dekho esko or mano eski
Ahlesunnat Wal jamat pay eska koe asar nahi(bigsmile)
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