Kal Tak - 07th February 2012 - Imran Khan

[adnan_younus]

sirjee.. afghanistan wil be an area of fighting cats and dogs if US leaves and ISi doesnt interfere.. jsut like when russians were defeated by the fake jihadist..... was tehr peace then?? didnt dostum and masood fight along side with mujahideen to defeat russia adn then started fighting amongst them selves.. till pakistan and the saudis supported taliban...


now if these factions start fighting again.. the world will have a clsoe eye ... nortehrn alliance wil be fuly suported by west.. we will covertly support taliban.... and teh fighting will go on.. unless there is a stable solution keeping all teh warlords and taliban on table and deciding for a solution.... leaving afghansitan at this point will repeat the cycle ....

THINGS ARE NOT THAT SIMPLE... eitehr imran knws but is not telling teh true picutre as this is not the paapoolar stance or he is too naive on this....

imran khan talks abt drones create bombers.. why doesnt he talks abt army operation is creating suicide bombers... tehre ppl are killiled more than the drones... he is really confused when it coems to war on terror...

HAHAH.......... in last 10 they have increased the mess rather than decrease. Just think and imagine what was the situation in Pakistan and in the rest of the world, before US attack on Afghanistan.

So you mean they should continue till the complete collapse of Pakistan because you want to finished the " Mess".

Keep in mind the Taliban regime from 1996 till 2001 was the most peacefull time of Afghan's recent history. You may disagree with their way of govt. but it was their problem not ours.



There is only one possible solution that US has to transfer the govt. to Taliban only. Taliban will not allow Nothern Allies keep in mind. But they might agree to give their possible share (Taliban which are mostly Pashtunes and Pashtunes are more than 50% of Afghanistan ). Keep in mind only Pashtunes are sincere with Pakistan. So Pakistan also can't afford to lose the support of Afghani Pashtunes or Talibans and Vice versa.



Things are very simple because US and European economy can't sustain in the continuation of these stupid wars. They have to leave with defeat whether after 1 year or 10 years because Talibans eats Dry Bread with Water or Channay at maximum whereas NATO officials can't eat less than Pork or Mutton or some costly things and the rest is true for many other expenses.

Talibans say that they don't wear watches so they have plenty of time. It is NATO who are in hurry not Talibans.



Believe me or not this is the only solution if you want peace in Pakistan. Just imagine, after the blockade of NATO supply and absence of Drone Attacks, we have no suicide or other attacks and as you see lesser attacks in Pakistan is also due to the fact that Pakistani officials are in conversation with Pakistani militants.

So Imran is very clear in his stance that first we have to stop the war as good well gesture, then negotiate to bring them to main stream. So in this way more people would come towards us and if there is still mischieves, they would be handled with force but secretly not bombing them.



In the available circumstances this is the possible option to leave this war of terror. Because at the moment he (being not in power) can't stop ISI to back Haqqani or any other militants. He can only do so after coming in Power.

 

[saeed khan]

javed ch's inner is not with imran at all.he never trusted or believe from heart in imran.he always try to get imran knock out.

Yes, he always try but has always failed and will always fail.
In his all the books ( Zero point 1,2,3,4,5) I am sorry to say that he always favoured Nawaz Sharif. I am not sure what is the reason behind it ?

 

[Nice2MU]

sirjee.. afghanistan wil be an area of fighting cats and dogs if US leaves and ISi doesnt interfere.. jsut like when russians were defeated by the fake jihadist..... was tehr peace then?? didnt dostum and masood fight along side with mujahideen to defeat russia adn then started fighting amongst them selves.. till pakistan and the saudis supported taliban...

Brother there is much peace than today before US attack and if it would continue Taliban govt. would behave reasonably.

now if these factions start fighting again.. the world will have a clsoe eye ... nortehrn alliance wil be fuly suported by west.. we will covertly support taliban.... and teh fighting will go on.. unless there is a stable solution keeping all teh warlords and taliban on table and deciding for a solution.... leaving afghansitan at this point will repeat the cycle ....

No, Just see right now, West is completely support Afghan Army with their won existence of more than 200,000 Army but still they are struggling with Taliban.

THINGS ARE NOT THAT SIMPLE... eitehr imran knws but is not telling teh true picutre as this is not the paapoolar stance or he is too naive on this....

Things are simple. US to leave and let the Afghani decide their fates but by foreign forces.

imran khan talks abt drones create bombers.. why doesnt he talks abt army operation is creating suicide bombers... tehre ppl are killiled more than the drones... he is really confused when it coems to war on terror...

He said so many time that Army must stop operation and even leave FATA but I think you have missed his statement. He is not confused rather you are not following him on Afghan or FATA war properly.

 

[Malik495]

after senate election when ppp will be in senate for next term.... massive opposition in national asembly including MQM...........imran khan will bring change with this team.. kusoori... qureshi .. tareens.........:13:

 

[adnan_younus]

Us soldiers are failing to keep control.. but tat does not mean they are defeated.... they have their own country... they will go back to their peaceful states... and then covertly suooprt northern alliance thru arms and tanks ... so fighting will just continue and innocent afgahns will jsut keep on dying and again the refugee problem for pakistan....

NATO/US has to leave afghanistan with all parties sitting on table and making a deal with each otehr over control... so when Us leaves they wont be fighting each other....


u say ket teh afghans decide their fates... werent they given option after russia war??? what happened then.. why did paksiatn had to intervene and give support to the taliban .....


abt army to stop operation.. im not saying he didn tsay that.. im saying when he says stupid stuff like suicide bombings is happeening because of drones... but teh fact is army operation is killing more ppl than drones .. so he shud say suicide bombings is because of army operation..

PS: im against drones but tat doesnt mean i accept imran rhetoric of suicide bombings......

Brother there is much peace than today before US attack and if it would continue Taliban govt. would behave reasonably.



No, Just see right now, West is completely support Afghan Army with their won existence of more than 200,000 Army but still they are struggling with Taliban.



Things are simple. US to leave and let the Afghani decide their fates but by foreign forces.




He said so many time that Army must stop operation and even leave FATA but I think you have missed his statement. He is not confused rather you are not following him on Afghan or FATA war properly.

 

[umairjee]

be serious yaaaaaaaaaaaaar
kafi mazak ho chuka

 

[k.a.kiani]

tum jaise kum aqal idealist bus talyan bacha ker naach dkha saktey hein... shor macha saktey hein.. koi kaam ki baaat ya solution nahi desaktey...

Baita jab bat na banay na tu issi tarha roota hai banda. (cry)(cry)(cry)(cry)

Ham idealist kuchh nahi krtai aur tumharai Realist leader ne jo mulk ko chand laga'ey hein na wo bhi pata hai. issi liay mulk mein waapis nahi aata kah loog haar lai ker kharai hon gai. Pata hai na kis cheez k haar hon gai.

chal ab chup kr ja mera bacha roo nahi warna aur lon ga.

 

[Nice2MU]

Us soldiers are failing to keep control.. but tat does not mean they are defeated.... they have their own country... they will go back to their peaceful states... and then covertly suooprt northern alliance thru arms and tanks ... so fighting will just continue and innocent afgahns will jsut keep on dying and again the refugee problem for pakistan....

Again I would say that either you are so naive or don't see the facts. US is defeated because despite of have so many soldiers and the world most sophisticated war machinery, they couldn't occupy Afghanistan completely and they could have little influence in cities (less than 30 %). They have either to accept defeat and leave Afghanistan or atleast leave the Govt. to Taliban. And if they leave the govt. to Taliban it would be better for the region otherwise Taliban wouldn't accept any other govt. except them and if you think US would finish Taliban completely then wait for 2099.

NATO/US has to leave afghanistan with all parties sitting on table and making a deal with each otehr over control... so when Us leaves they wont be fighting each other....

There are only Two main factions. Taliban and Afghan Govt. the rest are of faction in Afghanistan are just nothing. That former Northern Alliance (NA) couldn't fight with Taliban even for the matter of fact that they had been supported by Western countries like US, India, Israel, Iran, Russia and other Central Asian countries. NA had been engulfed in Panjsher Hells and if it would continue for few more years, Taliban would occupy it as well because a professional Arm i.e. Pak Army, was supported and fighting in the form of Taliban.

u say ket teh afghans decide their fates... werent they given option after russia war??? what happened then.. why did paksiatn had to intervene and give support to the taliban .....

They tried with old war lords but they didn't agree due to the interference of foreigner forces because almost every group used be backed by foreign forces and Pakistan was backing Hikmatyar. But as they were not settling the issue, Pak had to introduce their own army in the form of Taliban and they brought peace in just 1-3 years time. Our Western borders were very safe at that time.

abt army to stop operation.. im not saying he didn tsay that.. im saying when he says stupid stuff like suicide bombings is happeening because of drones... but teh fact is army operation is killing more ppl than drones .. so he shud say suicide bombings is because of army operation..

Killings are killings, whether through Drones or Army operation but IK is very much against drones because drones along with killings, violates the national sovereignty as well.

And Army Operation might be targeted whereas Drones kill untargeted innocent people. Plus have you read very recent report about drones? What does it say?

PS: im against drones but tat doesnt mean i accept imran rhetoric of suicide bombings......

Whether you agree or not, but it is the matter of fact? Plus Imran has be rhetoric only at the moment because at the present he is not in power. When he comes in power, he would certainly do things practically as well.