Jirga - 20th Dec 2010 - Pervaiz Musharraf

Winnige

Minister (2k+ posts)
Musharraf is a man with gr8 genuine character, he proved it today, he admitted that Imran 'Khan has a strong character, i must say, Imran has been critisizing him for a long time now and abusing him but he admitted that he is good leader, watch the 3rd part after 7 minutes
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Two things from this shameless person. He won't comment on Zardari called being Dirty, However, he supports foreign official's remarks about Nawaz being dangrous. This tells you about his intelligent bankruptcy. He called Nawaz being weak in front of super powers, while he forgot his wetting in the paint after 911 phone call. The whole world has seen his bravery when he allowed Americans full access to Pakistan on a mere phone call. Bottom line is Musharraf is scared of Nawaz coming in to the Government. If that happens, Musharraf can kiss his chances of even thinking of staying in Pakistan Good Bye.
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Zaidi will not understand, his mind is set to be against Musharraf at any cost

آپ ٹھيک کہتے ہيں ، ميں نے کبھی بھی اس ننگ وطن کو اس قابل نہيں سمجھا کہ يہ اس ملک کی قيادت کرے ـ
 
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zishancheeta

Councller (250+ posts)
Atl least he is talking truth and straght forward. Not our pliticians. our other leadewr never admit their fault and never praise their opponent.
He apraise Imran Khan and others.He is not thinking like our so called leaders that must discredit the opposit party. This is his quality.
were you a exchange oprator that time in presidency. My Dear brother we must see the fact . Negetive propganda and damage our own self.
Dr Qadir Khan saiud in interview that : nawaz sharif did not want to explose : (recording is available ) Mr qasoori said we were in the cabnit and Nawaz Sharif did not want to explose.
All the persons were in the cabinet meetings that time don't support Sharif' claim. peopl want give credit to Mr Shari were not cabinet meetings neither were involved in that operation.
but still they want see him hero , so what. My hero is ,who can creat thje jobs for my country men and women. Food and medisons in our reach and can provide our basic needs.
Mr Musharaf can do that he is my hero , ( he did in his time ) Mr Sharif can do this he can be my hero , Mr Zardari , Altafr Bahi or Imran Khan or any one. Thanks
 

samy99

Minister (2k+ posts)
I do criticize NS for being friendly opposition but he made musharraf army chief and he stab him at the back .musharraf is hurt what Mr.kiani (amy chief )did to him like not meddling in the election but what he did to others ,he dont feel sorry at all.He did't say sorry even once for his cruel acts like afia siddiqui,Akbar Bughti's murder ,attack on Lal Masjid,removing the whole SC judges and house arrested them, humiliate our national hero Dr.Qadeer Khan.whatever he did ,the whole nation feel ashamed for his actions.sardar Akbar Bughti was the leader of his tribe,he raised his voice against the gang rape of Dr.Shazia in his tribal area by the army captain and others-instead musharraf court martial the army captain,he tried to silence dr.shazia and sent her london with some threats.Mr.Mussharraf,this is not the way to rule the country with iron fist,just wait for the nature's revenge because you have to pay the price of all those crimes i mentioned above.I have nothing personel against you but your actions are very loud and clear against humanity.Mr.Musharraf forget the economic revival you had in your time but you sank everything before you left so dont give us that lousy "Bhashion".
 
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zishancheeta

Councller (250+ posts)
آپ ٹھيک کہتے ہيں ، ميں نے کبھی بھی اس ننگ وطن کو اس قابل نہيں سمجھا کہ يہ اس ملک کی قيادت کرے ـ
Who is you leader
can you tell me a person in Pakistani siasat who never lie and pure.
Just name him and leave the rest on me . i will give you the undenyable proof.
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Who is you leader
can you tell me a person in Pakistani siasat who never lie and pure.
Just name him and leave the rest on me . i will give you the undenyable proof.

جھوٹ اور شراب کو تو پھر بھی معاف کرديا جاسکتا ھے مگر مير جعفر اور مير صادق کی وطن فروشی کبھی معاف نہيں کی جاسکتی ۔
 

zishancheeta

Councller (250+ posts)
Lets deal one by one.
Akbar Bghati how he died must be investigate (he died by firing a unguide missel from inside the cave that hit the cave and the cave was fully stone but dirt and mud)
Lal masjid. In three talk shows Mr Qamar Zaman Qaira said we have done same as musharaf did. a man war firing from roof at army and army officers were killed after that the action took place. there is a rule . when any one use weapon against state shal not be considered as civilian. Musharaf's soks man Fawad Ch dare in tak show to PMLN's spoks man that CJ should take somoto action and dig the grave and do the DNA and hang me upif we are wrong. Mr Sharif is against musharaf but why he don't file a motion in national assembly.
Dr AQ khan this topic is very sensetive and directly touch with national scurity. But stll he is houe arrest , musharaf is not in power now so there is somthing again PMLN want make AQ Khan president but why they can not file motion in NA. Please think
Dr Shazia . what hapend with that story. They send a man wearing a militry uniform and rape her he was not a militry captain. the peopl don't want army presencr in there they plan this. where is Shazia now where is case now why those culprits are not araising voice for shazia now. It was planed only to give army bad name and RAA was involved and was funded from India.I acn't give you proof here but in life if meet me i will provide the proof.
. Cj case was mishandled . Musharaf should take off uniform two years before his presidency period ended.
Lal Masjid . He took action too late. Imam Kahba came to lal masjid not for cup of tea but solve the problem. those people kidnap chines. Musharaf should not let the gather amunition in masjid . They had gun , garnades for what to cook food .
If any one have case go to court ( CJ Iftikhar Mohammad Ch ) and punish Musdharaf . otherwise stop negetive prtopganda.
Pakistan Zinda Bad
 

zishancheeta

Councller (250+ posts)
Please read the wikie leaks and tell me who is pure except Imran Khan and Musharaf also Apraise him. Who is not reday to sell this mighty country.
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Please read the wikie leaks and tell me who is pure except Imran Khan and Musharaf also Apraise him. Who is not reday to sell this mighty country.


I know the one who did sell my country and I am not going to let him do again.... You missing the point and your above facts are twisted in favour of the Dictator.In brief, let him come back to Pakistan a lot of his guests are waiting for him .
 

mjzafar

MPA (400+ posts)
I feel really really sad when i see people supporting Ghaddar Musharraf. I don't want to start arguments and debates here. A suggestion I have, for all Musharaf supporters is that "learn to separate your emotions and sentiments from your political associations". It is possible that what you have been thinking for years and years, turns out to be wrong...coz we are humans. If you strongly take positions for people and don't ever want to review and change your thoughts, you can never act in the best interest of the country. May be there is no good politician in Pakistan. Does that mean you have to side with someone? No..... It means we have to create people who can come to the front, honest and upright people.

In the first video Musharaf said Al-Qaeda did 9/11 attacks. While that may be true, how does he know when no investigations have been completed and even on FBI website, Osama is not wanted for 9/11 attacks? A lot of ppl still believe it was all internally planned or planned by one or two intelligence agencies. Then how Muharraf says it was done by Al-Qaeda? He is not sure, he is just speaking language of his masters. He totally sold off Pakistan. During his time, he practically gave the command of Islamabad to foreigners. One gate at Islamabad airport was opened for foreigners and FIA was instructed not to check identity of any of the troops, blackwater guys or other intelligence agents coming in. Musharaf was one of the biggest traitors in the short history of Pakistan, not saying there weren't others. Even Zia acted on US commandments by hanging ZAB. Zia did corruption as well, however, he did not let Pakistan down in the way Musharaf did. In the first video he also mentioned "politicians lait jaatay hain un k aagay". Actually he himself is the biggest example of that.

Anyway it won't help me writing pages and pages here. Just one suggestion to Musharaf supporters. DO U LOVE PAKISTAN? or you just love your political ideology? if you love Pakistan, please step back. Detach your emotions from Musharaf, think deeply and research. Education is the best solution. Educate yourself more and more and also BECOME POLITICAL ATHEISTS meaning, don't follow leaders like this, follow your love for Pakistan and that will lead you to the right path.

Thanks and sorry if someone got offended.
 

zishancheeta

Councller (250+ posts)
No twist , Just file case and bring him court of law . Is it not very simple . the courts are free and Musharaf is not in power .
i am not fevering Musharaf . I can not agaist any body jsut because nawaz or any one .
Musharaf time.
Sugar . Rs26
Aata. Ghee , Vegetable , Daals , Gas , Electricity , transport , education ( 7 countries were bringing their universties in Pakistan , After Musharaf The draw back ) Health medicin prices.
Compare with crrunt prices , The Dollar was Rs62 for 8 years in a row. if any one bring musharaf's prices back , i am with him. I just want a job so , i can feed my baby and buy medicin for my mom otherwise i don't give a dam.
 

zishancheeta

Councller (250+ posts)
I feel really really sad when i see people supporting Ghaddar Musharraf. I don't want to start arguments and debates here. A suggestion I have, for all Musharaf supporters is that "learn to separate your emotions and sentiments from your political associations". It is possible that what you have been thinking for years and years, turns out to be wrong...coz we are humans. If you strongly take positions for people and don't ever want to review and change your thoughts, you can never act in the best interest of the country. May be there is no good politician in Pakistan. Does that mean you have to side with someone? No..... It means we have to create people who can come to the front, honest and upright people.

In the first video Musharaf said Al-Qaeda did 9/11 attacks. While that may be true, how does he know when no investigations have been completed and even on FBI website, Osama is not wanted for 9/11 attacks? A lot of ppl still believe it was all internally planned or planned by one or two intelligence agencies. Then how Muharraf says it was done by Al-Qaeda? He is not sure, he is just speaking language of his masters. He totally sold off Pakistan. During his time, he practically gave the command of Islamabad to foreigners. One gate at Islamabad airport was opened for foreigners and FIA was instructed not to check identity of any of the troops, blackwater guys or other intelligence agents coming in. Musharaf was one of the biggest traitors in the short history of Pakistan, not saying there weren't others. Even Zia acted on US commandments by hanging ZAB. Zia did corruption as well, however, he did not let Pakistan down in the way Musharaf did. In the first video he also mentioned "politicians lait jaatay hain un k aagay". Actually he himself is the biggest example of that.

Anyway it won't help me writing pages and pages here. Just one suggestion to Musharaf supporters. DO U LOVE PAKISTAN? or you just love your political ideology? if you love Pakistan, please step back. Detach your emotions from Musharaf, think deeply and research. Education is the best solution. Educate yourself more and more and also BECOME POLITICAL ATHEISTS meaning, don't follow leaders like this, follow your love for Pakistan and that will lead you to the right path.

Thanks and sorry if someone got offended.
Thanks but who is your leader.
9/11 a book from state deprtment . Named "9/11 commission : you send me the money i mail you tommorrow. this book include the FBI report . Please if you don't know just say i don't know but don't misguide. 9/11 commission report is in my hand and you just balme. Please for GOD sake be honest. I am not Musharaf fan . but wrong is wrong and right is right.
 

Zaidi Qasim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Thanks but who is your leader.
9/11 a book from state deprtment . Named "9/11 commission : you send me the money i mail you tommorrow. this book include the FBI report . Please if you don't know just say i don't know but don't misguide. 9/11 commission report is in my hand and you just balme. Please for GOD sake be honest. I am not Musharaf fan . but wrong is wrong and right is right.

بتوں سے تجھ کو اميديں ،خدا سے نا ميدی
مجھے بتا تو سہی اور کافری کيا ھے
 

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