"Its your time now, wait for our response we 'll surprise you" - DG ISPR Maj. Gen. Asif Ghafoor rubashes India's Fake Surgical Strike 2.0

[laltopiwalabalungda]

how can you arrest them where from other side they are shooting on you ? offcourse you have to kill them.

we are mujahid , one mujahid is equal to 1 million kafir , we will capture india and shall make all hindus musalman , after that we will live happily everafter .

 

[Citizen X]

Unfortunately thats how it works. If a military plane from another country enters your airspace you have the right to shoot it down. Fuck ups happen from time to time but its important to protect the sovereignty of your state at all costs.

Well seems like we have come to an impasse because you are adamant we should have shot them down disregarding and ignoring all logical arguments and scenarios presented to you. So it would be futile to carry on this discussion in this context.

 

[kayawish]

we are mujahid , one mujahid is equal to 1 million kafir , we will capture india and shall make all hindus musalman , after that we will live happily everafter .

u r hindu we all know that ...

 

[Vitamin_C]

Forget F-16... we have equivalent of BUK missile systems with range of 50km+

Asked why this system was not working?
You said it was working

Then I asked why wasnt it used?
And you send me this video of how F-16s scrambled.
Baba i am not talking about F-16s. Dont answer just for the sake if answering.

Do you realy want to be expert on everything?

 

[Vitamin_C]

You have not presented any logical arguments of why we shouldn't do this.

The reason you gave was what if it falls inside India. This is not a good reason as where the debris falls doesnt matter, what matters is that the plane violated your airspace. I gave you example of 2015 incident in Turkey.

By not defending our sovereignty we are behaving in a submissive way. Imagine something like this happening to Turkey or Israel.

Well seems like we have come to an impasse because you are adamant we should have shot them down disregarding and ignoring all logical arguments and scenarios presented to you. So it would be futile to carry on this discussion in this context.

 

[monkk]

I always thought world will not let pakistan prosper. No matter modi wants it or not, war is about to be imposed on our country.
If I was Ik I would do sabar and work on our own country. Anyways no damage is done.
Its like india pooped in our back yard and ran away... Why start a war and disrupt our progress ??
No war please.

 

[laltopiwalabalungda]

Yeah exactly... they played smart knowing that we don't have enough jets patrolling the LOC.... that's why they tried to engage from 3 different places... and succeeded to enter in our space and got away with it ... simple as that ... Its a big sovereignty breach and PAF letted the nation down

yes we should purchase more jets , let us ask for some billion dollars from brother islami countries .

 

[laltopiwalabalungda]

In 2015...a Russian jet was shot down by Turkey after it entered Turkish Air space for 17 SECONDS. 17 SECONDS. ja k google karlo. Fact is they conned us by diverting our attention in Lahore and then Bahawalpur sector while their main formation came in AJK. Do you think they are going to announce the time of their arrival to us in advance? I have one cousin who is an F7 pilot in Air force and my uncle is Wing commander in Air force so I have grown up around it. They conned us and have laid an ambush for us. Do not be fooled by them. They are now expecting us to come from west....although we should now CON them and catch them unprepared. Attack from where they LEAST expect us....probably from NORTH...do not fall in their trap. The ideal respinse would be to bomb their airforce while it is sleeping on the ground before it even gets in the air. Use our agents in India to pinpoint targets and launch a missile while their planes are on the ground. We can fire missiles long range missiles even without entering indian air space form 30 to 70 km away.

yes we should make hindus musalman .then we will rule hindustan and afghanistan.

 

[Surgical]

proud of my Army

 

[laltopiwalabalungda]

u r hindu we all know that ...

tum kafir ka agent ho.
we should do ghazwa i hind now........ long live laal topi wala .

 

[laltopiwalabalungda]

Inshallah pakistan will destroy india

let us convert all hindus to muslim .all probl;em solved .

 

[Citizen X]

You have not presented any logical arguments of why we shouldn't do this.

The reason you gave was what if it falls inside India. This is not a good reason as where the debris falls doesnt matter, what matters is that the plane violated your airspace. I gave you example of 2015 incident in Turkey.

By not defending our sovereignty we are behaving in a submissive way. Imagine something like this happening to Turkey or Israel.

And I tried telling you, but you don't want to listen that it is was not possible to engage the IAF due to the very short time they were in our airspace, a fact also mentioned in the DGISPR debrief saying he wished they had stayed longer in Pakistani air space. Along with the FM PC and overall Pakistan's policy of peace and de-escalation. Chasing the enemy back into Indian airspace would only make us look like the aggressors and go against our official narrative.

As for Turkey I can give 1000 times more examples where air space was violated and the other aircraft wasn't shot down.

 

[Vitamin_C]

What about our ground based air defense systems that cover every Inch of LOC? They can chase Indian planes upto 50km into Indian territory and shoot them down and we would have been legally justified to do so.

And I tried telling you, but you don't want to listen that it is was not possible to engage the IAF due to the very short time they were in our airspace, a fact also mentioned in the DGISPR debrief saying he wished they had stayed longer in Pakistani air space. Along with the FM PC and overall Pakistan's policy of peace and de-escalation. Chasing the enemy back into Indian airspace would only make us look like the aggressors and go against our official narrative.

As for Turkey I can give 1000 times more examples where air space was violated and the other aircraft wasn't shot down.

 

[laltopiwalabalungda]

And I tried telling you, but you don't want to listen that it is was not possible to engage the IAF due to the very short time they were in our airspace, a fact also mentioned in the DGISPR debrief saying he wished they had stayed longer in Pakistani air space. Along with the FM PC and overall Pakistan's policy of peace and de-escalation. Chasing the enemy back into Indian airspace would only make us look like the aggressors and go against our official narrative.

As for Turkey I can give 1000 times more examples where air space was violated and the other aircraft wasn't shot down.

we should do ghazwa i hind .

 

[Citizen X]

What about our ground based air defense systems that cover every Inch of LOC? They can chase Indian planes upto 50km into Indian territory and shoot them down and we would have been legally justified to do so.

Like that our Planes can chase them across all over India. But once again that wasn't the point. We were defending ourselves, once the threat is over and the enemy's mission failed that was enough.

 

[HSiddiqui]

Did he mention why the air defense system was not working?

He never said air defense system was not working rather he clearly said PAF fighters intercepted IAF and they had to retrieve , while returning they off loaded the pay load at JABBA, and there is not a single causality by dropping the bombs from such a height, which IAF did while running away.

 

[khaaki]

Sir app dil pay hath rakh kay aur Insaf say kaam letay howay batayen k hamari fouj nay aaj tak humayn konsa khushi ka lamha diya hay? inn 70 salon mayn koi aik aisa kaarnama, jispay hum inko aitamaad kar sakayn....... Jabkay inkay blunder aur misdeeds count karnay lago tou din say raat aur raat say din hojaye , khatam phir bhi na hon...

Man you are sneaky...i have seen ur posts and they are pessimistic to the core...be it pakistan in general or army , pti in specific. Why so negative and whats the root cause of this animosity towards pakistan and its institutions?
Also, what positive have you contributed to better all those flaws that you keep mentioning ??

 

[Citizen X]

He never said air defense system was not working rather he clearly said PAF fighters intercepted IAF and they had to retrieve , while returning they off loaded the pay load at JABBA, and there is not a single causality by dropping the bombs from such a height, which IAF did while running away.

Bombs are usually released from a good height, that has nothing to do with it. They jettisoned their load and high tailed it out of there.

 

[707]

Sir app dil pay hath rakh kay aur Insaf say kaam letay howay batayen k hamari fouj nay aaj tak humayn konsa khushi ka lamha diya hay? inn 70 salon mayn koi aik aisa kaarnama, jispay hum inko aitamaad kar sakayn....... Jabkay inkay blunder aur misdeeds count karnay lago tou din say raat aur raat say din hojaye , khatam phir bhi na hon...

Bhai hamaarey yahan Neem fouji ya neem siaasi jamhooriat iski zimedaar hay. 48 main hamarey pass fouj nahi thi, 65 main sub ko pata hay, 71 main hamari fouj or siasutdaan donoun involve thay. kargil main bohat kuch howa tha , lakin NS ki waja se wapsi hoi. uske baad bhi "Neem faouji" or" Neem siaasi" kai kaarnamey han. Kisi aik ko hum kaise kah saktey han?

 

[707]

Sir app dil pay hath rakh kay aur Insaf say kaam letay howay batayen k hamari fouj nay aaj tak humayn konsa khushi ka lamha diya hay? inn 70 salon mayn koi aik aisa kaarnama, jispay hum inko aitamaad kar sakayn....... Jabkay inkay blunder aur misdeeds count karnay lago tou din say raat aur raat say din hojaye , khatam phir bhi na hon...

Or khud agar hum saarey log "dil pe haath rakh k" doosroun ki galtiaan ya kotaahian dekhne k bajaey apni galtiaan dekhtey to Pakistan kaafi taraqi kar leta.