Ishrat ul Ibaad buys Mansion in Missisauga Canada

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Ishrat ul Ibaad buys mension in Missisauga Canada

This could be a half decent home but not a mansion.
Depending on the locality, my guess would be less than a half million dollars.
what do you think bro canadian?

Nope Bro.Half a million dollars,you cant get anything really good.I would say a good house will be from seven hundred thousand and above.
 

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
This is not mansion at all. This is a small semi-detached house. I used to live in Mississauga and now I am in Vancouver. The house worth is not more than $450,000.00 in both cities if it is a new construction.
By putting 5% down any one can buy this house on mortgage. That's how all middle class buy their houses in Canada. So, if this is a real story (I doubt though), still Ishrat -ul-Ibad proves he belongs to a middle class.

I need to confirm with Canadian Immigration that if a person without legal status (while living out side Canada) can buy a property in Canada? Is there any provision in the law here?

Can any one confirm please. Thanks

Are you kidding Bro ?
Either his kids or wife must be a Canadian citizen or Landed Immigrant.Canada is their Country of choice these days.They have truck loads of money,do you think they will have problem getting immigration ?.Investor's Visa ?
 

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Ishrat ul Ibaad buys mension in Missisauga Canada

May be he is not the same person u mentioned that property dealer was referring to. May be he was referring to his colleague Allah (SWT) knows best. A friend of mine was once talking that your Rizq is what u spend or eat, else is for others. For example if u earn 100 rupees and spend 20 from it through out life time then remaining 80 is other's Rizq but u would be accountable for it if u have earned it illegally. Greed of wealth is such a curse it blinds the greedy. May Allah Almighty save us from it Aameen. I am not sure he will ever get chance to live in this house but even if it was bought from Halal money he would still be answerable for doing israaaf. Wallahu Aalam. May Allah Almighty forgive us and guide us to the right path Aameen

Thanks Bro,
Very well said but these people are not humanbeings.They are worst than animals,no conscious,no fear of God,no repentance.Almighty gave them a choice and they opted for Dunia.
 

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
5% Down and 95% percentage in this day and age
Sure Akhir MQM Ka Governor Hai,
Karachi Main Country Incharge Ko Goli Say Urwana Hai Kiya

Dont you think he is not getting his share of Bhaata they collect from poor half dead citizens of that country ?I am sure if somebody tells you the amount you wont believe it.They dont take mortgages,they just pay upfront.Infact they have never heard about the word mortgage.
 

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
hahaha what a joke !!!! Mississauga Vancouver Canada...hhahahhaha...OMG Mr.Mubashar Lucman a piece advice for you my friend,if you continue to take information from the person who gave you the address of this house,with all due respect your creditbility as a honest person/anchor who talks only on facts would certainly go down the drain..Secondly this word mansion that you have used to describe a 3000 sq ft normal detached house in Mississauga,really creates doubts in my mind about your sources..Sir pls dont make a fool of yourself by believing ppl who have nothing but BS to say..

As for you Mr.Canadian,pls get your fatcs right...Ishrat ul Ibad is MQM my friend,not Pervez Musharraf's party man!! But i think you have nothing but BS to say...MQM is a party where you belong from,go deal with it and fix them and their corruption...Pervez Musharraf was never corrupt like your MQM...

I would say Pervaiz Musharraf was worst than MQM.The loss he inflicted on this hapless Country cannot be calculated in figures,just not possible.Allah Iss Ko Jahanam wasil Karey.
 

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Ishrat ul Ibaad buys mension in Missisauga Canada

This could be a half decent home but not a mansion.
Depending on the locality, my guess would be less than a half million dollars.
what do you think bro canadian?

Yes Bro,
depending on the condition, this type of house will only fetch half a million or so dollars.
 

Night_Hawk

Siasat.pk - Blogger
5% Down and 95% percentage in this day and age
Sure Akhir MQM Ka Governor Hai,
Karachi Main Country Incharge Ko Goli Say Urwana Hai Kiya
The following are the conditions to buy a house in North America & Canada.
Qualifying for a Mortgage Loan:
[SIZE=+1]Banks don't loan money to just anybody. [/SIZE]They want to feel secure that you're able and responsible enough to pay them back. So you'll usually need these things in order for the bank to give you a loan:

  • Enough money for the Down Payment (3 to 20% of the purchase price)
  • Two years of steady employment (same job or field)
  • Good (not perfect) credit score (~660+, as of 6/09)
  • Monthly income that's 2 to 3 times higher than your expected monthly mortgage payment
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Ishrat ul Ibaad buys mension in Missisauga Canada

Assalam-o-alaikum
I have posted long time ago about Mubashir fake revelations. Similarly he aired a show revealing SO CALLED SON OF MIRZA MASROOR, who accepted ISLAM bla bla..
Soon after getting exposure, in next program he changed his stance & showed sympathy for Qadiyanis..
Point is same will happen in this case.. End result SYMPATHY FOR MQM & He will apologize..
Lets see how this TOPI DRAMA will unleash..

I am of the same view....because I think it is near to impossible for an anchor to reveal something about MQM without getting clearance from them....I am 99% sure it is a TOPI DRAMA.
 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
AnkhoN per tassub ki patti bandhi ho tou kuch bhi samajh nahi ata, I said 5% of CA$450,000 that is CA$22,500.
The monthly payment of the rest mortgage amount will be around $2500. If the owner is not living there, he can easily rent this house on around $2000 per month. So remaining $500 (40,000 pk rupees) is easily affordable for a doctor living even in Pakistan.
My concern was different. How come he bought this house without any status in Canada.

Hahahahaha again very funny u seem very funny and interesting person. Wo aik muhawira hai ke kuch logon ko apnay ghar ka darakht bhi nazar nahi aata aur dosron ki aankh ka baal bhi nazar aa jata hai. Same seems true for u too. I dont live in Canada but my common sense says that not everybody is eligible for mortgage if this was the case then every lallu panju would go and buy houses on mortgage. I dont have anything personal with neither u nor ishrat ul ibaad (in fact i dont give a damn about him because they all r same) my reply was purely about ur definition of middle class thats it. How could u be so sure that his house would be rented until his last installment? and lets suppose if he only pays 500 CAD its still around 42500 Pakistani Rupees and u might dont know but i m sure he would have some other living expenses as well. Hope u got it
 

hassam

MPA (400+ posts)
The discussion is going on that someone bought a house in Canada.

The following are the conditions to buy a house in North America & Canada.

Qualifying for a Mortgage Loan:
[SIZE=+1]Banks don't loan money to just anybody. [/SIZE]They want to feel secure that you're able and responsible enough to pay them back. So you'll usually need these things in order for the bank to give you a loan:

  • Enough money for the Down Payment (3 to 20% of the purchase price)
  • Two years of steady employment (same job or field)
  • Good (not perfect) credit score (~660+, as of 6/09)
  • Monthly income that's 2 to 3 times higher than your expected monthly mortgage payment
[SIZE=+1]If you don't have all four items above right now don't fret. [/SIZE]You still have some options.

  • Meet with a lender anyway. Don't just assume you can't get a mortgage. It can't hurt to go talk to a bank and see whether they're willing to give you a loan. Even if they won't give you a loan they can probably help you by letting you know where the deficiencies are, so you can work towards qualifying in the future.
  • Try for a Low-Doc or No-Doc Loan. As I write this in 2009 these are fairly rare now because banks lost a lot of money by giving these out like candy, but as time goes by I think banks will offer more of these again. Not as many as they used to, but it will still be an option for some people, so I'll continue to keep this section here.

    Anyway, these loans are for people who can't (or don't want to) provide details about their income or their employment. The most popular is called a Stated Income loan because you just "state" how much income you have without offering any proof. It's also called NIV for "No Income Verification" because your income isn't verified. Weth No Ratio and No Doc loans, you don't even say how much you make. You can think of these as "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" loans. The No Doc is also called NINA, for "No Income & No Asset verification". Because income is never proven with any of these loans I joking call them the "Drug Dealer Loans", though of course there are many legitimate reasons for wanting a loan of this type.

    Since the bank is taking a bigger risk on you with a No-Doc or Low-Doc loan, the interest rate is higher than on a traditional loan, and the exact amount depends on your credit score, your lender's preference, and which flavor of low-doc/no-doc loan you get. The premium you'll pay will range 0.125 to 3.0 percentage points over a traditional loan.

    I got one of these loans myself once. I had started a new business a year earlier and was easily making enough money to make the mortgage payments on the house I wanted, but because the business was brand-new I didn't have income history and there was no way a bank would give me a traditional loan. My good credit, and my willingness to pay a tiny amount of extra interest, was enough to get me the loan without having to supply any paperwork.

    Here's how the different loans stack up.

[SIZE=+1]What you need for each kind of loan[/SIZE]
Regular Loan Stated Income
[SIZE=-2]("NIV")[/SIZE] No Ratio No-Doc
[SIZE=-2]("NINA")[/SIZE] Income
You provide proof (e.g., paycheck stubs, W2's)
You just tell the banker how much you make and they take your word for it
You don't even say how much you make. (Don't ask, don't tell.)
Down Payment Needed

Small ✔
Small to Bigger ✔✔
Bigger ✔✔✔
Biggest Credit Required

Fair ✔✔
Good ✔✔
Excellent ✔✔✔
Near-Perfect Employment History
✔ ✔

Proof of Assets

✔ ✔ Possible Proof of Income



Interest Rate

Lowest ✔✔
Higher
[SIZE=-2](+0.125% to 1% higher)[/SIZE] ✔✔✔
Highest ✔✔✔
Highest
[SIZE=-2](up to 3% higher)[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]More on Low- and No-Doc Loans from MSN.[/SIZE]

  • Use a Mortgage Broker. A mortgage broker represents lots of different lenders so they can shop around to try to find one who will make you a loan. They charge a fee for this service but if you can't get a mortgage otherwise then it could be worth it. You can find mortgage brokers in the homes section of the newspaper classifieds and in the yellow pages. A good online broker is E-Loan.
  • Try to get the owner to finance all or part of the cost of the home. Getting an owner to finance a home is difficult, but if you have no other options then it's worth a try. You can increase your chances of success by offering a higher interest rate and/or asking the owner to finance only part of the cost of the home. See our page on owner financing.
  • Get a co-signor. See if a family member or very close friend with a higher income and better credit than yours will cosign a loan for you. That means that the loan will be yours and you'll be responsible for paying it, but if you don't, the cosignor will have to pay it. Obviously the cosignor will have to have agreat deal of trust in you for this option to work.
  • Have a friend or family member buy the house, and rent-to-own it from them. Friends and family might be wary of co-signing a loan for you because their credit gets ruined if you don't make the house payments, and they have little recourse against you. A more attractive alternative is to have your friend or family member buy the house in their name, and then rent it to you with an option to buy. Here's how it works: You'll make the mortgage payments and pay for taxes, insurance, and maintenance, as your "rent". You can get the house in your name by either making all the payments after 30 years, or by buying the house for the amount of the remaining mortgage once your credit improves enough for you to get your own loan. If you fail to make your payments, you forfeit your right to buy the house, and your friend/family member can either pick up the payments or sell the house. Either way, they're not out because they already own the house. They don't have to foreclose if you don't pay, because the house was already in their name. For that reason this arrangement can be more attractive to them than the idea of their being a cosignor.
    In fact, if you don't have the money for a down payment, your friend/family member might loan you the money for the down payment as well -- usually for a slightly higher interest rate than the mortgage.
    A downside of having someone buy the house for you is that the interest rate will be about 1% higher because the house will be considered investment property for the buyer and not a residence, since they're not going to live in it. Still, if the only way you can get yourself into your own home is to pay a little more interest, it might be worth it.
http://michaelbluejay.com/house/qualifying.html

Brother Night Hawk I beg to differ here but if you think that things can only be done by book in North America then you are wrong. Before 911 there were maxican group in chicago who used to sell SSN numbers to people so that they can do jobs. I have seen many people who can not afford to have a house and manage to get a loan from bank. I heard that a guy who bought a house by collecting deposit money from his friends and then in order to show that he owns the money he got a letter from another friend that he has had that as a gift. Now all of them have bought the house in the name of one guy and they are earning of the rent and their investment.The real state agents can get you a letter of employment.

There are many other ways. So if the purpose of your post is to prove that there are only certain ways of having a house and every thing goes by book then I beg to differ. By book processes are only for those who are afraid of not going above and beyond to get what they need. Banks have a lot of money and the amount of interest that they charge is outrageous enough so that they can stand several thousand bankrapcies. They are not on the loosing side in mortgages anyway becuase no one can run away with the house and the value of the house mostly appreciates. The process of getting a mortgage is made to look difficult so that one feel ecstatic and lucky when he gets it.
 

Night_Hawk

Siasat.pk - Blogger
Brother Night Hawk I beg to differ here but if you think that things can only be done by book in North America then you are wrong. Before 911 there were maxican group in chicago who used to sell SSN numbers to people so that they can do jobs. I have seen many people who can not afford to have a house and manage to get a loan from bank. I heard that a guy who bought a house by collecting deposit money from his friends and then in order to show that he owns the money he got a letter from another friend that he has had that as a gift. Now all of them have bought the house in the name of one guy and they are earning of the rent and their investment.The real state agents can get you a letter of employment.

There are many other ways. So if the purpose of your post is to prove that there are only certain ways of having a house and every thing goes by book then I beg to differ. By book processes are only for those who are afraid of not going above and beyond to get what they need. Banks have a lot of money and the amount of interest that they charge is outrageous enough so that they can stand several thousand bankrapcies. They are not on the loosing side in mortgages anyway becuase no one can run away with the house and the value of the house mostly appreciates. The process of getting a mortgage is made to look difficult so that one feel ecstatic and lucky when he gets it.
I am not disputing your statement.
The statement which I posted was for information purposes and to go by the book.
But if the intention is to beat the system, there are various ways for the people to deceive.
Br. Hassam, there are many folds to buying a house:
1: Asking Price from the seller.
2: Market Value of the property.
3: The appraisal value of the property.
4: What the Financial Institutions will appraise that property.
5: What are the Real-State Taxes?
6: If the property is rent-able then how much it will fetch rent-wise.

 

canadian

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Brother Night Hawk I beg to differ here but if you think that things can only be done by book in North America then you are wrong. Before 911 there were maxican group in chicago who used to sell SSN numbers to people so that they can do jobs. I have seen many people who can not afford to have a house and manage to get a loan from bank. I heard that a guy who bought a house by collecting deposit money from his friends and then in order to show that he owns the money he got a letter from another friend that he has had that as a gift. Now all of them have bought the house in the name of one guy and they are earning of the rent and their investment.The real state agents can get you a letter of employment.

There are many other ways. So if the purpose of your post is to prove that there are only certain ways of having a house and every thing goes by book then I beg to differ. By book processes are only for those who are afraid of not going above and beyond to get what they need. Banks have a lot of money and the amount of interest that they charge is outrageous enough so that they can stand several thousand bankrapcies. They are not on the loosing side in mortgages anyway becuase no one can run away with the house and the value of the house mostly appreciates. The process of getting a mortgage is made to look difficult so that one feel ecstatic and lucky when he gets it.

Well if you have a reasonable credit rating and 20% downpayment,no problem.If you are not able to arrange that much down payment and you have a moderate income then think twice before taking over the liability.
 

mudboy

New Member
Re: Ishrat ul Ibaad buys mension in Missisauga Canada

i totally agree with U... he should keep his facts straight....
 

mudboy

New Member
Re: Ishrat ul Ibaad buys mension in Missisauga Canada

Wel man he is nt kid n u r nt as well.. if u knw hw to use the net then go on internet and google the address he mentioned .... u wil get tht answer to ur question brother.. i respect tht person bt he should do little digging bcz its internet age... u can b exposed in seconds.. n also if u can try google street where it has pic s well so plzz... logo ko bewakoof na banao.. I m nt a big fan of MQM n nor m i defending those piece of Crap bt.. he should keep the facts rite...
 

Aijazahmed

Minister (2k+ posts)
Are you kidding Bro ?
Either his kids or wife must be a Canadian citizen or Landed Immigrant.Canada is their Country of choice these days.They have truck loads of money,do you think they will have problem getting immigration ?.Investor's Visa ?

I am with you but you got to prove that him or his family got immigration.
I don't fly in the air for nothing.
 

Aijazahmed

Minister (2k+ posts)
Dont you think he is not getting his share of Bhaata they collect from poor half dead citizens of that country ?I am sure if somebody tells you the amount you wont believe it.They dont take mortgages,they just pay upfront.Infact they have never heard about the word mortgage.
Prove it please. You have a property dealer friend in Mississauga, just ask him to produce title(owner) search of Ishrat ul Ibad Khan in Mississauga. I am sure that unprofessional person will do this favor to you under the table. He is against Musharaf so most probably does MQM too.
Send the result to every media all over the world please.
 

alibaba222

Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Ishrat ul Ibaad buys mension in Missisauga Canada

Canadian Bahi app usi din name lay lety ,app nay itny din Qaiser bahi ko zaroor intazar kerwana tah
Well in a way that confirms what I mentioned in my thread " A House In Mississauga":)
 

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