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Thursday, August 20, 2009
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By Javed Arshad

Jawaharlal Nehru at the time of independence had envisioned Indian Navy operating with at least three aircraft carriers to achieve its strategic interests in Indian Ocean. Whosoever succeeded him as the prime minister, irrespective of his political affiliations, pursued Nehrus vision and worked towards acquisition of aircraft carriers for Indian Navy. To add to this vision was her daughters who in early 70s tasked the Indian Navy to avail all means to ensure that India enjoys dominance over Indian Ocean. Consequently, the Indian nuclear scientists commenced working in 1971 on production of a compact nuclear power plant suitable for installation on nuclear submarines. The construction of nuclear submarines (ATV programme) was started in 1974 and to avail the Russian help a delegation visited Russia in 1982 during which they were introduced to a Russian Charlie Class nuclear powered cruise missile submarine (K-43), the submarine that was later leased to Indian Navy.

India rolled out its first of the ATV nuclear submarines named Arihant and became the only sixth country in the world to possess under water nuclear capability. The launching of the nuclear submarine by India with Russian collaboration speaks of the kind of defense relationship that they enjoy with each other. Albeit, the development has altered the balance of power in the region and added a new dimension in Pakistans threat perception. Since the on board missiles outfit comprise club and Sagarika missiles with respective ranges from 300 to 1000 kms, the Indian nuclear submarines will be Pakistan specific. There is a need for Pakistan to acquire its own sea based nuclear capability over time to counter the impending threat.

Coming back to the Russian connection in Indian nuclear submarine development it established a training centre for the Indian sailors at Vladivostok in 1982 to train them on handling of nuclear submarines and qualified the first batch in 1983. They were then trained at sea on board K-43 that was later inducted in Indian Navy for two years on lease as INS CHAKRA.

The Indian submariners were imparted extensive training on board by a group of thirty Russian experts that remained on board throughout its operations with the Indian Navy. INS CHAKRA covered 72000 NMs wherein the on board nuclear reactor remained critical for over 430 days during its service with the Indian Navy.

After expiry of the lease of INS CHAKRA in 1990, a similar deal was re-negotiated with the Russians in 2001 with two aims. One, to keep the Indian Navy personnel trained on board INS CHAKRA current with the nuclear submarines operations and two, to avail Russian expertise to complete its own ATV. As per the deal, India would fund two under construction nuclear submarines under Project 971 Nerpa (Akula Class nuclear submarines) with the first one to be delivered in 2004. However, the process got delayed and the final terms of agreement were finally signed in 2004 along with the contract for Admiral Gorshkov, the aircraft carrier.

It was also initially agreed that four Indian crews would be trained in Russia on board Akula Class submarines, the submarines would be leased for between three to ten years and that India would pay lease money worth $25 million every year. Transfer of the first Akula Class Submarine to the Indian Navy was planned for August 2007 however; it was later postponed to September 2009 mainly due to the increased expenditures on its completion.

Later on an accident, on board the first designated Akula submarine for the Indian Navy during its sea trials, further delayed the delivery. The second submarine is stated to be transferred to the Indian Navy by 2010 however; the same also would likely be delayed much further. However, there are reports that Russia might transfer its own operational Akula Class nuclear submarines to India to compensate for the delays in meeting the delivery schedule.

As Russia is nurturing India to turn it into a global power so is United States. It was with the expertise of the later that India was able to install its first low frequency transmitter in the south of the country to communicate with the submerged submarines deployed over long distances.

France also came handy in lending a great support to India in the provision of sonars expertise and helped it install the same on board Indias ATVs. This courting of India in nuclear field by UN Security Council members who keep on voicing their concerns on nuclear proliferation, is despite the fact that India has a chequered history in safeguarding its nuclear stockpiles.

Christopher Pine, a nuclear safeties expert working with Natural Resource Council in Washington has categorized Indias nuclear safe keeping practices as worse with the least nuclear safeguards in the whole world. As per Press Trust of Indias report of 12 April 2006, three people were arrested for selling a Kilogram of enriched uranium contained in Indias Atomic Energy Department sealed box. There was also news that reported arrest of one Ravinder Singh, an agent of Indias Intelligence agency RAW, trying to sell Indias nuclear secrets to other countries.

In November 2005 two British companies were suspended for aiding Indias nuclear capable Agni missile programme and a US court also fined Fibre Materials a company that clandestinely exported missile control panel to India, which was reversed engineered by Indian DRDL and used on Agni missiles systems.

The way the India is being all around nuclearised by the UN Security Council members, there is no option for Pakistan but to focus its energies to acquire sea based nuclear capability to thwart Indian hegemonistic designs and threat to its own sovereignty.

Indias clandestine activities in Pakistans Balochistan province and the NWFP speak of the threat that it poses to the national security of Pakistan. Pakistan has always worked to preserve its national security and bears no inclination to rule or influence littoral states through age-old medium, the seas.
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
commander said:
Christopher Pine, a nuclear safeties expert working with Natural Resource Council in Washington has categorized Indias nuclear safe keeping practices as worse with the least nuclear safeguards in the whole world. As per Press Trust of Indias report of 12 April 2006, three people were arrested for selling a Kilogram of enriched uranium contained in Indias Atomic Energy Department sealed box. There was also news that reported arrest of one Ravinder Singh, an agent of Indias Intelligence agency RAW, trying to sell Indias nuclear secrets to other countries.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
 

nabeel117

Councller (250+ posts)
contra said:
commander said:
Christopher Pine, a nuclear safeties expert working with Natural Resource Council in Washington has categorized Indias nuclear safe keeping practices as worse with the least nuclear safeguards in the whole world. As per Press Trust of Indias report of 12 April 2006, three people were arrested for selling a Kilogram of enriched uranium contained in Indias Atomic Energy Department sealed box. There was also news that reported arrest of one Ravinder Singh, an agent of Indias Intelligence agency RAW, trying to sell Indias nuclear secrets to other countries.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:? :roll:

REUTERS
Published: August 20, 1981
Two to three tons of heavy water leaked out of an atomic reactor in western India on Aug. 5 and one of the power plant's units was shut down, the Press Trust of India news agency reported today. No damage or injuries were reported.

------------------------------------------------------------

1984
Dec. 3, Bhopal, India: toxic gas, methyl isocyanate, seeped from Union Carbide insecticide plant, killing more than 2,000 and injuring about 150,000.

------------------------------------------------------------

JAN-1-1992: Four tons of heavy water spilt at Rajasthan nuclear power plant.

--------------------------------------------------------------

MAY-13-1992: Tube leak causes a radioactive release of 12 Curies of radioactivity from Tarapur nuclear power station.

-------------------------------------------------------------

Like all reactor types in Indiaand Koodankulam is a Russian design, as was ChernobylKNPS can undergo a core meltdown, with devastating consequences for Tamil Nadu and Kerala, even Sri Lanka.

--------------------------------------------------------------

However apart from 1st incident rest are not major accidents but they increase the probability of any in future and hence is a big threat to India herself :twisted:
 
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commander

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contra said:
commander said:
Christopher Pine, a nuclear safeties expert working with Natural Resource Council in Washington has categorized Indias nuclear safe keeping practices as worse with the least nuclear safeguards in the whole world. As per Press Trust of Indias report of 12 April 2006, three people were arrested for selling a Kilogram of enriched uranium contained in Indias Atomic Energy Department sealed box. There was also news that reported arrest of one Ravinder Singh, an agent of Indias Intelligence agency RAW, trying to sell Indias nuclear secrets to other countries.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Truth is bitter
 

biomat

Minister (2k+ posts)
Assalam-o-alaikum
Nabeel bhai home work v well done. Jaza-k-ALLAH. I think contra is trying to tell u about indian standards as mentioned in prev posts i-e their AIR FORCE FIGHTER PILOTS claiming on their homeland about their successful training missions with international forces. :-)
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
The Father of your Nuclear Program is a criminal, a smuggler and a wanted man.
He stole the nuclear secrets...

Was also running a proliferation business...
 

digitalzygot

Senator (1k+ posts)
You wish keep dreaming buddy :lol: :lol: , he shattered your dreams of becoming so called regional power, west can't stand him for his dedicated work
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
contra said:
The Father of your Nuclear Program is a criminal, a smuggler and a wanted man.
He stole the nuclear secrets...

...



--And the Father of YOUR Nuclear Porgram is a person from the faith,which you Hate most and Against which you've an Immense Grudge :o :shock: 8-) :lol: :geek: ...It's Indigestion all around :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Indianguy

Voter (50+ posts)
taul said:
contra said:
The Father of your Nuclear Program is a criminal, a smuggler and a wanted man.
He stole the nuclear secrets...

...



--And the Father of YOUR Nuclear Porgram is a person from the faith,which you Hate most and Against which you've an Immense Grudge :o :shock: 8-) :lol: :geek: ...It's Indigestion all around :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

India is the first faith for every Indian, everything else is secondary, I know its hard to contemplate for narrow minds.
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
IndianMuslim said:
India is the first faith for every Indian, everything else is secondary, I know its hard to contemplate for narrow minds.



--In Theology it doesn't exist a religion by the name of India :oops: :oops: ..And fools and idiots ponder over Non-existent and Mythical stuff 8-) :lol:

--Stay away from bollywood movies :o :o might feel better in Assessing things :geek:


--Is this some sort of way for you to get some kinda break in bollywood movies by repeating and Echoing such kinda Fanatical dialogues :o is that it :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: auuhhhhhh :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
 

hnuter555

MPA (400+ posts)
hey contra bit$$h shu%% the fK off dont dare opening ur dirty mouth about Dr aq khan again get ur smelly curry sprayed a33 out of here
whole indian N programme is imported from russia indra pimped herself and nero and patel daughterss to commarades in red army to get this so called idiots necualr tech

by the way how is cow piss cola ? i heard u really like it and homesexuality is allowed in india now so no fear u will be satisfied :oops:
 

taggtow

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
How long you guys in Pakistan can live in denial. Everybody treats the national assets as their dad's Jagir. Look at your president as well as A Q Khan. A Q Khan start selling nuclear assets as his own property. What a disgrace ? You should be ashamed of speaking against curry. Thats your staple food. Don't worry, a military dictator is coming to power again. Your voices won't be heard anymore.
If Pakistan has developed its technology, then today Pakistan wouldn't be in this state of moral / economical bankruptcy.
Wake up and do some hard work rather than just becoming a jihadi force.
 

digitalzygot

Senator (1k+ posts)
tagtow and Indianmuslim you guys are retards, sometimes I am like wdf are they talking about, btw last time I said go and see a shrink(HIGHLY RECOMMENDED) and shove your hatred and stupid ideology in your arse. :twisted: :twisted:
 

nabeel117

Councller (250+ posts)
nabeel117 said:
contra said:
commander said:
Christopher Pine, a nuclear safeties expert working with Natural Resource Council in Washington has categorized Indias nuclear safe keeping practices as worse with the least nuclear safeguards in the whole world. As per Press Trust of Indias report of 12 April 2006, three people were arrested for selling a Kilogram of enriched uranium contained in Indias Atomic Energy Department sealed box. There was also news that reported arrest of one Ravinder Singh, an agent of Indias Intelligence agency RAW, trying to sell Indias nuclear secrets to other countries.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:? :roll:

REUTERS
Published: August 20, 1981
Two to three tons of heavy water leaked out of an atomic reactor in western India on Aug. 5 and one of the power plant's units was shut down, the Press Trust of India news agency reported today. No damage or injuries were reported.

------------------------------------------------------------

1984
Dec. 3, Bhopal, India: toxic gas, methyl isocyanate, seeped from Union Carbide insecticide plant, killing more than 2,000 and injuring about 150,000.

------------------------------------------------------------

JAN-1-1992: Four tons of heavy water spilt at Rajasthan nuclear power plant.

--------------------------------------------------------------

MAY-13-1992: Tube leak causes a radioactive release of 12 Curies of radioactivity from Tarapur nuclear power station.

-------------------------------------------------------------

Like all reactor types in Indiaand Koodankulam is a Russian design, as was ChernobylKNPS can undergo a core meltdown, with devastating consequences for Tamil Nadu and Kerala, even Sri Lanka.

--------------------------------------------------------------

However apart from 1st incident rest are not major accidents but they increase the probability of any in future and hence is a big threat to India herself :twisted:

Response still awaited but only get this.........

contra said:
The Father of your Nuclear Program is a criminal, a smuggler and a wanted man.
He stole the nuclear secrets...

Was also running a proliferation business...
1. Means you accept that Indian nuclear program is really a threat for Indians :cry:

2. For your kind info..... once Pakistan was unable to get fuel for its 1st civilian nuclear power plant (In Karachi) from Canada as part of a legal internatioanal civilian nuclear deal... there were no legal options left for Pakistan to get the technology in response of an ever threatning India with its nuclear capability............As Every thing is fair in **** n *** :twisted:

however i believe,"Only fair means should be used in love and war" ;)
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
nabeel bhai,
1. Accidents do happen, no one is denying them.

2. Why have you included the Union Carbide plant gas leak in this?

3. Chances of an accident will always exist. It is not 100% safe...

4. This is not a related issue, but is relevant --- :geek:
a) we in India have heard of a number of instances where our missile tests etc. have failed. :oops:
But i haven't heard of any such news from Pakistan ever. Is it true? Have you never had a failed missile test? :twisted:

b) Also, have there been any accidents in Pakistani nuclear facilities? :?:
 

nabeel117

Councller (250+ posts)
contra said:
nabeel bhai,
a) we in India have heard of a number of instances where our missile tests etc. have failed. :oops:
But i haven't heard of any such news from Pakistan ever. Is it true? Have you never had a failed missile test? :twisted:

b) Also, have there been any accidents in Pakistani nuclear facilities? :?:

I think we are following the golden rule that "If you have 8 hours to chop a tree then take 6 hours to sharpen the axe edge and 2 hours to chop the tree, It is better to do smart work rather than hard work" :geek: (Not applicable in Pak politics :( )
 

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
nabeel bhai,
nabeel117 said:
I think we are following the golden rule that "If you have 8 hours to chop a tree then take 6 hours to sharpen the axe edge and 2 hours to chop the tree, It is better to do smart work rather than hard work" :geek: (Not applicable in Pak politics :( )

1. If you ride a bicycle for the first time, you will fall down. This is an accepted fact. :geek:

2. But, if a person says that he has never ridden a bicycle and then he gets on the bike and rides so well that he can give competition to Lance Armstrong, then there is something wrong... :?
 

nabeel117

Councller (250+ posts)
Contra bhai,
You are not getting my point :roll:

1. The level of risks involve in riding a cycle for the 1st time and running a complex plant for the first time are not the same, so as the precautions to eliminate those risks. We are not discussing the 1st cycle ride but only the accidents by a professional cyclist in Olympics :geek:

2. We were discussing on the precautions need to be keep in practice for those critical matters.................You will be well aware of the typical flow chart involve in those sort of project.......... like planning, calculation, simulations, prototype, tests and then the final attempt when you think every thing will work fine as per calculations (however normally the final test in these missile test are normally a formal announcement to world that you have achieved it and your work is reliable).

3. I know probability to fall in your 1st cycle ride is virtually 100% but I ask you what is the probability of a pilot to crash in his 1st flight, and how many cases can one find of a plane crash on a 1st test flight???? so..........

"If you have 8 hours to chop a tree then take 6 hours to sharpen the axe edge and 2 hours to chop the tree, It is better to do smart work rather than hard work" (Not applicable in Pak politics )
 

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