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Google, the world’s most popular Internet search engine, has found in a survey that mostly Muslim states seek access to sex-related websites and Pakistan tops the list. Google found that of the top 10 countries - searching for sex-related sites - six were Muslim, with Pakistan on the top. The other Muslim countries are Egypt at number 2, Iran at 4, Morocco at 5, Saudi Arabia at 7 and Turkey at 8. Non-Muslim states are Vietnam at 3, India at 6, Philippines at 9 and Poland at 10.[SUP][1][/SUP]

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Here are the Muslim countries and how they placed in the top five world ranking of various bestiality-related internet search terms:
Pig Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Egypt (No. 2) Saudi Arabia (No. 3)
Donkey Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Iran (No. 3) Saudi Arabia (No. 4)
Dog Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Saudi Arabia (No. 3)
Cat Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Iran (No. 2) Egypt (No. 3) Saudi Arabia (No. 4)
Horse Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Turkey (No. 3)
Cow Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Iran (No. 2) Saudi Arabia (No. 4)
Goat Sex: Pakistan (No. 1)
Animal Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Morocco (No. 2) Iran (No. 4) Egypt (No. 5)
Snake Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Malaysia (No. 3) Indonesia (No. 4) Egypt (No. 5)
Monkey Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Indonesia (No. 3) Malaysia (No. 4)
Bear Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Saudi Arabia (No. 2)
Elephant Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Egypt (No. 3) United Arab Emirates (No. 4) Malaysia (No. 5)
Fox Sex: Saudi Arabia (No. 1) Turkey (No. 4)[SUP][2]


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In 2014, Madhya Pradesh Registered 13 Rapes Every Day. Highest in India.


All India | Written by Siddharth Ranjan Das | Updated: August 23, 2015 13:57 IST

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The mother of a teenage rape survivor tells NDTV how she sent her daughter to a correction home fearing her safety.



BHOPAL: For the third consecutive year in a row, Madhya Pradesh has been ranked number 1 by the National Crime Records Bureau for the maximum number of rape cases. In 2014, the state recorded 5,076 rape cases, which is an average of 13 rapes every day. Half of the women who were raped were minors.

In Bhopal, NDTV met with the family of a 17 year old girl who was repeatedly raped and blackmailed a year ago, allegedly by a neighbour. When the parents found out, they registered a complaint but the neighbour was out on bail within a week. The family of the teen says they are still receiving threats and for the safety of their daughter they put her in a correction home where she is dealing with the trauma on her own.

"My daughter is at a children correction home in a way suffering and the accused is out on bail. I cannot bring my daughter home fearing that he may harm her," said the rape survivor's mother.


Madhya Pradesh also tops the list when it comes to sexual offence, with 15,170 cases registered last year.

Activists say the state has a host of welfare scheme for girls and women but lacks vision to ensure their safety.

"Chief Minister's Vision 2018 does not have much focus on crime against women in it. It talks about domestic violence, that too about their welfare scheme, but there is no mention of steps they will take to bring down crime against women," Prarthana Mishra, an activist from NGO Sangini told NDTV.

The state government has formed an all-women Nirbhaya team to patrol and check crime against women and set up a women's helpline. But there is a lack of dedicated personnel for such projects. The BJP government, embarrassed, is now evading the media over the issue.

When we approached Home Minister


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More Facts About Pakistan You Did Not Know...Pakistan #1 Country For Google Search 'Donkey Sex', 'Child Sex' , 'Rape Pictures'...Islam...


This item updates item 'Facts about Pakistan that you didn't know of'
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Google, the world’s most popular Internet search engine, has found in a survey that mostly Muslim states seek access to sex-related websites
and Pakistan tops the list. Google found that of the top 10 countries -
searching for sex-related sites - six were Muslim, with Pakistan on the
top. The other Muslim countries are Egypt at number 2, Iran at 4,
Morocco at 5, Saudi Arabia at 7 and Turkey at 8. Non-Muslim states are
Vietnam at 3, India at 6, Philippines at 9 and Poland at 10.[1]

May, 2006
Here are the Muslim countries and how they placed in the top five
world ranking of various bestiality-related internet search terms:

Pig Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Egypt (No. 2) Saudi Arabia (No. 3)
Donkey Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Iran (No. 3) Saudi Arabia (No. 4)
Dog Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Saudi Arabia (No. 3)
Cat Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Iran (No. 2) Egypt (No. 3) Saudi Arabia (No. 4)
Horse Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Turkey (No. 3)
Cow Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Iran (No. 2) Saudi Arabia (No. 4)
Goat Sex: Pakistan (No. 1)
Animal Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Morocco (No. 2) Iran (No. 4) Egypt (No. 5)
Snake Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Malaysia (No. 3) Indonesia (No. 4) Egypt (No. 5)
Monkey Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Indonesia (No. 3) Malaysia (No. 4)
Bear Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Saudi Arabia (No. 2)
Elephant Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Egypt (No. 3) United Arab Emirates (No. 4) Malaysia (No. 5)
Fox Sex: Saudi Arabia (No. 1) Turkey (No. 4)[2]

May, 2006
About a year go, it appears that Cairo was the #1 city that searched for “sex” on Google. Sabbah provides a few graphs detailing who’s searching for sex on the internet. Here is who searched for sex by region:

Arabic is the 2nd most common language that is used to search for “gay sex.” It’s the number one language for search involving “sexy.” As you can see in that same graph, Iran is at 3 and Egypt is at 4, listed under regions where search on “sexy” was most conducted.
Arabic is the 2nd most common language that is used to search for “gay man.” The countries that most search for this is currently Malaysia (#1) and Indonesia (#2). For “gay girl,” Arabic is also the 2nd most common language.
For “child porn,” Turkey is the 2nd country where this is most searched. Turkish is the #1 language used.
Turkey has one of the most searches for the word “porno.” Morocco is at 5. Turkish is #1 language used to conduct the search in. Indonesia is currently #1 country that search for the word “vagina.”
Turkey is not an Arab country, nor are some of the other
countries I listed. But they are Muslim, so I thought the findings were
fascinating to say the least. All of this information is not in the
least bit shocking, but it’s quite ironic.
What do you guys think?
Update:
Egypt is currently #1 for “fat sex.”
Pakistan, Morocco, Turkey and Egypt are at the top of the list when it comes to “animal sex.”
For “children sex,” Pakistan is at #1, Egypt #2 and Iran #3. The most common languages used to conduct the search in are Arabic and Turkish.
For “sexy children,” these results are probably the most disturbing. Pakistan, Syria, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, followed by Turkey at #9.
For “sexy child,” Pakistan is #1, followed by Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Turkey. Common languages are Persian, Arabic, and Turkish.
For “homo sex,” Indonesia is #1, Morocco is at 6.
For “rape,” Pakistan is at 1. Malaysia is at 3.


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Coconut oil prices soar in India after calf incident : India's Shame


PK Krishnakumar, ET BureauMay 9, 2014, 12.01PM IST

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KOCHI: Unprecedented rise in coconut oil price is causing a shift in the cooking habits in Kerala. As edible oil used in cooking, coconut oil is increasingly being replaced by cheaper ones like palm oil and sunflower oil. Coconut oil has been traditionally used for cooking in Kerala.
But with prices escalating to Rs 155 per kg, more than double the rate prevalent last year, the consumers are left with no choice. A massive drop in coconut production in all the southern states, particularly Kerala and Tamil Nadu, has raised the coconut oil prices to historic high.

What is worrying the coconut oil industry is that the prices are expected to shoot up again as coconut is entering a lean season with the arrival of monsoon. "Many consumers, especially the salaried class, have started using sunflower oil and palm oil.
We have raised the price of consumer pack to Rs 190 per litre. Our margins have been severely hit," says Sunny Francis, director of KLF Nirmal Industries, a major coconut oil producing company. Most of the restaurants have changed their cooking medium preference to refined palm oil.
The surging prices are compelling the consumers, except the hardcore fans of coconut oil or those who own coconut palms, to look at other options. Palmolein is priced in the range of Rs 70 to 80 a litre while branded sunflower oil is available around Rs 90.
Other branded edible oil manufacturers are trying to drive their sales up as the coconut oil prices go ballistic. Ruchi Soya officials who were here to promote their refined sunflower oil brand Sunrich said around 79% of the packed edible oil consumption in Kerala now is palmolein while sunflower oil accounts for 20%.
The use of coconut oil is mostly confined to unbranded variety. As the prices of packed coconut oil are soaring, people having coconut trees in their compound are collecting coconuts, drying them and taking the copra to the millers to make oil.
"Yes, there has been an increase in people bringing copra. We take copra from them and sell them coconut oil taking a Rs 4 margin. But this will stop as rains start as it will be difficult to dry coconuts," points out Davis, partner of Gee Dee Mills. The copra price is around Rs 110 per kg compared to over Rs 40-50 same time last year.
To a large majority of consumers staying in the city, this option is ruled out as they don't own coconut trees. With coconut oil prices ruling high, cases of adulteration have gone up.

"Unbranded coconut oil is mixed with palm kernel oil or liquid paraffin and sold at cheaper rate. This always happen when the coconut oil prices go up," said Thalath Mahamood, vice-president of Cochin Oil Merchants Association. The state authorities have conducted raids and seized adulterated stuff from several places

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(Unprecedented rise in coconut…)

KOCHI: Unprecedented rise in coconut oil price is causing a shift in the cooking habits in Kerala. As edible oil used in cooking, coconut oil is increasingly being replaced by cheaper ones like palm oil and sunflower oil. Coconut oil has been traditionally used for cooking in Kerala.
But with prices escalating to Rs 155 per kg, more than double the rate prevalent last year, the consumers are left with no choice. A massive drop in coconut production in all the southern states, particularly Kerala and Tamil Nadu, has raised the coconut oil prices to historic high.

What is worrying the coconut oil industry is that the prices are expected to shoot up again as coconut is entering a lean season with the arrival of monsoon. "Many consumers, especially the salaried class, have started using sunflower oil and palm oil.
We have raised the price of consumer pack to Rs 190 per litre. Our margins have been severely hit," says Sunny Francis, director of KLF Nirmal Industries, a major coconut oil producing company. Most of the restaurants have changed their cooking medium preference to refined palm oil.
The surging prices are compelling the consumers, except the hardcore fans of coconut oil or those who own coconut palms, to look at other options. Palmolein is priced in the range of Rs 70 to 80 a litre while branded sunflower oil is available around Rs 90.
Other branded edible oil manufacturers are trying to drive their sales up as the coconut oil prices go ballistic. Ruchi Soya officials who were here to promote their refined sunflower oil brand Sunrich said around 79% of the packed edible oil consumption in Kerala now is palmolein while sunflower oil accounts for 20%.
The use of coconut oil is mostly confined to unbranded variety. As the prices of packed coconut oil are soaring, people having coconut trees in their compound are collecting coconuts, drying them and taking the copra to the millers to make oil.
"Yes, there has been an increase in people bringing copra. We take copra from them and sell them coconut oil taking a Rs 4 margin. But this will stop as rains start as it will be difficult to dry coconuts," points out Davis, partner of Gee Dee Mills. The copra price is around Rs 110 per kg compared to over Rs 40-50 same time last year.
To a large majority of consumers staying in the city, this option is ruled out as they don't own coconut trees. With coconut oil prices ruling high, cases of adulteration have gone up.

"Unbranded coconut oil is mixed with palm kernel oil or liquid paraffin and sold at cheaper rate. This always happen when the coconut oil prices go up," said Thalath Mahamood, vice-president of Cochin Oil Merchants Association. The state authorities have conducted raids and seized adulterated stuff from several places

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Rape victim told to marry to become 'respectable' in India

DateJuly 4, 2015

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Asha* and her daughter in the garden in southern India. She is determined not to give in. Photo: Arun Janardhan/Indian Express​

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New Delhi: Three words no woman who has been raped ever wants to hear have thrown a young woman in a remote part of India into turmoil ever since the idea was proposed by a high court judge last month.
Having tried to put the rape of 2008 behind her and to get on with raising the little girl born nine months later, 21-year-old Asha* has been troubled by memories and disturbed by the judge's shocking suggestion: marry your rapist.
"When the judge took his pen and wrote this, did he think even once of my plight?", she asked an Indian Express journalist in a video interview in the garden of her one-room home.
The judge in question, Justice P Devadas of the Madras High Court, has been hearing the bail appeal of V Mohan, the man convicted of raping Asha. On June 23 he agreed to the bail request on condition that Mohan try "mediation" with Asha. Mediation in a rape case is aimed at marriage.
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His reasoning shocked people but this is the not the first time such logic has been applied by Indian judges. This logic holds that since an unwed mother and her child are "lepers" in Indian society, they are better off enjoying the "respectable" status of a married woman, even if the husband is her rapist.
"The case before us is a fit case for attempting compromise between the parties...he [the rapist] should be enabled to participate in the deliberations as a free man and vent his feelings, open his mind and moorings. Where there is a will, there is a way," the judge has been quoted as saying.
He added that another similar case was "proceeding towards a happy conclusion". In other words, wedding bells were ringing.
Lawyers and women's groups have reacted with indignation but no one more so than Asha. In her garden in a village 80 km from the nearest town Cuddalore in Tamil Nadu - the area was devastated by the 2008 tsunami - she expresses incredulity and dismay. With only her hands shown on the video, she sounds like a schoolgirl but speaks confidently.
"It is unfair of the judge to do this to me. The rapist only wants to get out of jail which is why he agreed to mediation. Can the judge guarantee my safety if he is in this area? Or my daughter's safety? I am being forced to suffer again. Only those who live around me know what I have been through," she says.
Asha was 14 when Mohan laced a soft drink with drugs and gave it to her to drink. When she fell into a stupor, he raped her. He threatened her parents when they filed a police complaint. He tried intimidating her into going for an abortion when he realised she was pregnant.
A DNA test proved his guilt and he was sentenced to seven years in jail. The conservative community around them, including their own relatives, boycotted Asha and her parents. When she delivered a baby girl, their exclusion was total.
After the death of her parents, Asha was left to raise the girl on her own with the help of her brother.
Much of her anger against Justice Devadas is directed at his failure to consult her before proposing mediation aimed at marriage. "How can he do this without seeking my opinion?," she asks.
A group of senior lawyers in Madras has written to the judge to protest against the proposal. On July 1, the Supreme Court waded into the controversy. While giving an opinion on another, similar case elsewhere in India, the judges condemned the idea of mediation in rape cases.
They said marriage between a rape victim and her rapist "compromised" the dignity of the woman and anyone suggesting it lacked sensitivity.
Since most Indian women, especially the poor, have no status in society without a husband, they are occasionally made to comply with repulsive order cases either urged by judges to marry their rapist or, as in the 2008 case of Imrana, known by only one name, who was ordered to marry her rapist under Islamic law.
Imrana, who was pregnant at the time, was raped by her elderly father-in-law. In their wisdom, Muslim clerics in her village, treating the case as adultery rather than rape, instructed her to divorce her husband and marry her father-in-law. Once she had done this, she had to treat her husband as her son.
Imrana ignored their orders and continued living with her husband.
For Rebecca Mammen John, a Supreme Court lawyer in New Delhi, Justice Devadas' marriage proposal betrays the same misogyny of the clerics in the Imrana case though with fewer mitigating circumstances given his position.
"A high court judge holds a constitutional post and when he passes an order which is so clearly misogynistic, he violates the Indian constitution in letter and spirit," she said.
Far away, in a lush and verdant garden that seems to mock the poverty of her tiny hut and the nylon pink nightie she is wearing, Asha is determined to resist the judge's proposal.
"I will fight this out my entire life. I will show my daughter the way I struggled and fought to survive," she said.
(*) name has been changed to protect identities.

 

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Jihadis Cleansing Pakistan of Christians

by Raymond Ibrahim on March 21, 2015 in Muslim Persecution of Christians












PJ MediaOn Sunday, March 15, as Christian churches around the world were celebrating morning mass, two churches in Pakistan were attacked by Islamic suicide bombers. At least 17 people were killed and over 70 were wounded.The two churches (located in Youhanabad, Lahore’s Christian quarter) were St. John’s Catholic Church and Christ Church (Protestant). The Taliban claimed responsibility. It is believed that the group had hoped for much greater death tolls, as there were almost 2,000 people in both churches at the time of the explosions.According to eyewitnesses, two suicide bombers approached the gates of the two churches and tried to enter them. When they were stopped — including by a 15-year-old Christian who blocked them with his body — they self-detonated. Witnesses saw “body parts flying through the air.”Thus did the jihadis “kill and be killed,” in the words of Koran 9:111, the verse most often cited to justify suicide attacks.According to an official statement of the Justice and Peace Commission of the Episcopal Conference of Pakistan, despite all the threats received by the churches, authorities only provided “minimal” security:

Agents present at the time of the attack were busy watching the cricket match on TV, instead of carrying out their duty to protect churches. As a result of this neglect, many Christians have lost their lives.​

The statement further urged:

… the government to adopt strong measures to protect churches and other religious minorities in Pakistan [since] the Christian community of Pakistan was targeted by extremists in the past.​

Less than a year-and-a-half earlier, on September 22, 2013, in Peshawar, suicide bombers entered the All Saints Church right after Sunday mass and blew themselves up in the midst of approximately 550 congregants, killing nearly 90 worshippers. Many were Sunday school children, women, and choir members. At least 120 were injured.One parishioner recalled how “human remains were strewn all over the church.” (For an idea of the aftermath of suicide attacks on churches, see these graphic pictures.)In 2001, Islamic gunmen stormed St. Dominic’s Protestant Church, opening fire on the congregants and killing at least 16 worshippers, mostly women and children.Less dramatic attacks on churches occur with great frequency. Days before last Sunday’s twin attacks, three armed men entered Our Lady Queen of Angels Catholic Church in Kasur district, Punjab, and took church personnel, the assistant parish priest, and congregation hostage. Before leaving the premises, the terrorists stole mobile telephones, cameras, and a computer.Earlier, Father Leopold, the ailing parish priest, was robbed by thieves:

[They] pretended to be ordinary members of the faithful wanting to enroll some children at the parish school. Then they suddenly pulled out guns.​

Christmas season is an especially dangerous time for Christians meeting in churches. On last December 25:

Heavy contingents of police were deployed in and around the churches … citizens were allowed only after [a] thorough body search … while the entry points leading to the churches had been closed by placing cemented blocks and barbed wire.​

During another Christmas, the following attack came in response to fatwas condemning Christmas celebrations:

When Christian worshipers were coming out of different churches after performing Christmas prayers, more than one hundred Muslim extremists equipped with automatic rifles, pistols and sticks attacked the Christian women, children and men.​

There have also been general attacks on Christians, especially in the context of accusing them of “blaspheming” against Islam. Last November, a mob — not the “Taliban,” and not “terrorists” — consisting of at least 1,200 Muslims tortured and burned to death a young Christian couple (the wife was pregnant) in an industrial kiln in Pakistan.Someone had accused the Christian couple of desecrating the Koran.Even when not in church and not accused of blasphemy, Christian minorities are always in danger. Last December, Elisabeth Bibi, a 28-year-old pregnant Christian mother of four, was “beaten, scorned and humiliated, deprived of her dignity [and] forced to walk naked through the town” by two Muslim brothers — the pregnant woman’s employers — following an argument.In the ordeal, she lost her baby.Rights activists say the attack “was motivated because of Bibi’s [Christian] religious beliefs.”Speaking last Sunday from Rome, Pope Francis said:

It’s with pain, much pain that I was told of the terrorist attacks against two Christian churches in Lahore in Pakistan, which have caused numerous deaths and injuries. These are Christian churches and Christians are persecuted, our Christian brothers are spilling their blood simply because they are Christians. I implore God … that this persecution against Christians — that the world seeks to hide — comes to an end and that there is peace.​

Pope Francis is often criticized for his apologetic approach towards Islam. Even here, he does not note who is persecuting these Christians, leading to confusing assertions (“our Christian brothers are spilling their blood” sounds like Christians are killing Christians). But the pope is forthright as to why Christians are being killed: “simply because they are Christians.”Others, such as the U.S. government, will not even concede that much.When the world heard and saw how 21 Coptic Christians had their heads sawed off by Islamic jihadis in Libya, the White House issued a statement condemning the beheadings — but referred to the beheaded only as “Egyptian citizens.” Not Christians, or even Copts, even though that is the sole reason they were slaughtered according to statements issued by their executioners.Such obfuscation ensures the Muslim persecution of Christians “that the world seeks to hide” will continue indefinitely.

 

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'Manjam Murders' Spotlight Pakistan's Hidden, Flourishing Gay Scene

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A Pakistani man has confessed to brutally murdering three men he met on Manjam, a gay social networking website with thousands of subscribers in Pakistan.
Muhammed Ejaz, a 28-year-old paramedic and father of two, entered the homes of the three men, then drugged and strangled them. Multiple reports say all the victims were found with their necks broken.
“I tried to convince them to stop their dirty acts, but they would not,” Ejaz said in an interview from his jail cell on April 27, the New York Times reported. “So I decided to kill them.”
Ejaz — who told stories of being molested by another male as a young man — said he wanted to send a message about the "evils" of homosexuality. Police maintain, however, he had sex with his victims first.
Manjam has gone offline to new members in Pakistan for the time being, while figuring out how to move forward with safety and security. They said in a statement they “believe this to be a direct result of widespread social ignorance and unaddressed homophobia in our societies.”

'The majority of Pakistanis who use Grindr or Manjam, aren’t out. They don’t see themselves as part of a gay identity. They just see themselves as people who enjoy having sex with people of the same gender.'​

Yet the site distanced itself from the case in an email to VICE News: “We have not been contacted by the Pakistani authorities and are unable to confirm if the suspect or victims were users of the Manjam website.”
Filmmaker and journalist Mobeen Azhar, director of a 2013 BBC Radio documentary Inside Gay Pakistan, told VICE News that a gay identity in Pakistan hasn’t formed, as no one wants to address the issue that “gay” exists.
“The majority of Pakistanis who use Grindr or Manjam, aren’t out. They don’t see themselves as part of a gay identity. They see gay identity as a western or Eurocentric construct. They just see themselves as people who enjoy having sex with people of the same gender,” he said. “The vast majority say that they’ll get married to the opposite sex one day.”
Church Defends Religious Freedom by Challenging Gay Marriage Ban. Read more here.
Indeed, Ejaz — who was caught when police operated a sting operation with one of his former lovers — has been married to a woman since 2011. He claims his wife knew nothing about his double life.
In Pakistan, the internet and sites like Manjam and Grindr have opened doors to people wishing to quietly pursue a gay lifestyle in the Islamic country where homosexuality is shamed and illegal.

The wording for two men having sex is that it should be seen by four adult male witnesses and that it should be clear, a key entering a keyhole.​

According to the Pakistan Penal Code (PPC), which was formed under British rule in 1860: “Whoever voluntarily has carnal intercourse against the order of nature with any man, woman or animal, shall be punished with imprisonment” for two to 10 years. That equates having sex with an animal to having sex with a person of the same gender.
The sentencing for “unnatural offences” escalates to life, or even death by stoning, when adding in Sharia law, which formed atop the PPC in Pakistan in the 1980s under Islamist General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq.
Turkey is planning the world's first openly gay prison. Read more here.
Azhar says, yes, the laws are tough, but they’re even tougher to officially enforce.
“If you look at the wording, the wording for two men having sex is that it should be seen by four adult male witnesses and that it should be clear, a key entering a keyhole — basically what they’re talking about is anal sex. They’re talking about a penis entering an anus,” he said. “It’s very unlikely that four adult male witnesses are going to testify and say, yes, I saw that man’s penis enter that man’s anus, and we were all standing around looking. It’s very, very rare.”
And though actual “key-keyhole” penetration may be legally forbidden, culturally, male-male affection in Pakistan isn’t perceived as such a threat. In fact, same-sex hand-holding, hugging, and cuddling are common sights — so long as traditional male-female domesticity isn’t disrupted.

One man described Pakistan’s largest city, Karachi, as a 'gay man’s paradise.'​

“Gay men are often seen in Pakistan as imitating women, and women are not respected. If you’re imitating a woman, that’s seen as a bad thing. Lots of men have same-sex fun or same-sex relations, but it’s not seen as a problem if you’re the one doing the *******, it’s seen as a problem if you’re the one getting ******,” Azhar said. “The attitude is that, in Islam, fornication is a bad thing, sex before marriage is a bad thing, and therefore, it’s quite common for a guy to get jacked off by his best friend in his adolescent years. That’s seen as kind of acceptable. People turn a blind eye to that.”
Even male-male intercourse can be publicly seen in Pakistan’s bigger cities, traditions that go beyond a constructed identity. “When I was making my documentary I recorded and I witnessed an orgy at a religious shrine, with lots of men standing in a circle. Someone beats a drum in the middle of the circle, all the men kind of gather around it tightly and they all **** each other,” said Azhar. “That all caters to an audience that has no awareness of Manjam, or even the internet.”
It’s this sideways liberty that may have spawned the attitudes in Azhar's BBC article that quoted one man describing Pakistan’s largest city, Karachi, as a "gay man’s paradise." The piece clarified, however, that the paradise was strictly a sexual one, leaving gay relationships often unrequited.
Read here why carrying condoms in NYC might get you arrested.
Private sex parties and massage parlors plus “extras” are a common occurrence, and even religious grounds like Karachi’s Abdullah Shah-Ghazi shrine, as described above, have become ground level for Pakistan’s gay orgies.
Nonetheless, gay travel guide Spartacus ranked Pakistan 118th out of 138 countries for gay travellers.
Pakistani journalist Luavut Zahid told VICE News why Pakistan is definitely not the ideal place to be gay: “Being gay is punishable by death, and one wouldn’t need to wait for the police or a court to sentence them to death. People take it upon themselves to ensure they ‘fix’ gay people here. This is an extremely dangerous country for homosexuals (and people who are different in general). It doesn’t help that this is one of the most religiously charged places on the planet and people can literally get away with murder when it’s in the name of God,” Zahid said.
“The only pro I can think of is the fact that people are so ignorant here that they wouldn’t connect the dots if two men were walking around holding hands (it would be considered a good friendship),” Zahid added. “They could even share an apartment and live together and it wouldn’t be considered abnormal. The problem would start once people find out that these people are gay.”

'The level of ignorance surrounding sexuality in general is astounding.'​

Indeed, after learning of a man living with his transgendered partner, Pakistani TV news network Abb Takk recently filmed themselves barging into their home, accusing them of being “not mentally well,” and flashing captions that say “LGBTI people are “worthy of stoning” and “cause AIDS.”
And though sites like Manjam and Grindr have thus far been allowed to operate within the country — despite the legal stance on homosexuality — not every site has received the same liberty.
Manjam can still be accessed in Pakistan, but the page hosting the web site’s statement on the recent murders has been blocked.
In 2013, the government shut down the country’s first online gay resource, Queer Pakistan, which offered a support community, as well as safe-sex education, a rarely discussed topic in the country. Queer Pakistan relaunched, operating under the name Humjins.com, a site which was again closed in February according to a post from their Twitter account.

 

[modern.fakir]

coconut oil and Yoni [hilar][hilar][hilar]

by Raymond Ibrahim on March 21, 2015 in Muslim Persecution of Christians












PJ MediaOn Sunday, March 15, as Christian churches around the world were celebrating morning mass, two churches in Pakistan were attacked by Islamic suicide bombers. At least 17 people were killed and over 70 were wounded.The two churches (located in Youhanabad, Lahore’s Christian quarter) were St. John’s Catholic Church and Christ Church (Protestant). The Taliban claimed responsibility. It is believed that the group had hoped for much greater death tolls, as there were almost 2,000 people in both churches at the time of the explosions.According to eyewitnesses, two suicide bombers approached the gates of the two churches and tried to enter them. When they were stopped — including by a 15-year-old Christian who blocked them with his body — they self-detonated. Witnesses saw “body parts flying through the air.”Thus did the jihadis “kill and be killed,” in the words of Koran 9:111, the verse most often cited to justify suicide attacks.According to an official statement of the Justice and Peace Commission of the Episcopal Conference of Pakistan, despite all the threats received by the churches, authorities only provided “minimal” security:

Agents present at the time of the attack were busy watching the cricket match on TV, instead of carrying out their duty to protect churches. As a result of this neglect, many Christians have lost their lives.​

The statement further urged:

… the government to adopt strong measures to protect churches and other religious minorities in Pakistan [since] the Christian community of Pakistan was targeted by extremists in the past.​

Less than a year-and-a-half earlier, on September 22, 2013, in Peshawar, suicide bombers entered the All Saints Church right after Sunday mass and blew themselves up in the midst of approximately 550 congregants, killing nearly 90 worshippers. Many were Sunday school children, women, and choir members. At least 120 were injured.One parishioner recalled how “human remains were strewn all over the church.” (For an idea of the aftermath of suicide attacks on churches, see these graphic pictures.)In 2001, Islamic gunmen stormed St. Dominic’s Protestant Church, opening fire on the congregants and killing at least 16 worshippers, mostly women and children.Less dramatic attacks on churches occur with great frequency. Days before last Sunday’s twin attacks, three armed men entered Our Lady Queen of Angels Catholic Church in Kasur district, Punjab, and took church personnel, the assistant parish priest, and congregation hostage. Before leaving the premises, the terrorists stole mobile telephones, cameras, and a computer.Earlier, Father Leopold, the ailing parish priest, was robbed by thieves:

[They] pretended to be ordinary members of the faithful wanting to enroll some children at the parish school. Then they suddenly pulled out guns.​

Christmas season is an especially dangerous time for Christians meeting in churches. On last December 25:

Heavy contingents of police were deployed in and around the churches … citizens were allowed only after [a] thorough body search … while the entry points leading to the churches had been closed by placing cemented blocks and barbed wire.​

During another Christmas, the following attack came in response to fatwas condemning Christmas celebrations:

When Christian worshipers were coming out of different churches after performing Christmas prayers, more than one hundred Muslim extremists equipped with automatic rifles, pistols and sticks attacked the Christian women, children and men.​

There have also been general attacks on Christians, especially in the context of accusing them of “blaspheming” against Islam. Last November, a mob — not the “Taliban,” and not “terrorists” — consisting of at least 1,200 Muslims tortured and burned to death a young Christian couple (the wife was pregnant) in an industrial kiln in Pakistan.Someone had accused the Christian couple of desecrating the Koran.Even when not in church and not accused of blasphemy, Christian minorities are always in danger. Last December, Elisabeth Bibi, a 28-year-old pregnant Christian mother of four, was “beaten, scorned and humiliated, deprived of her dignity [and] forced to walk naked through the town” by two Muslim brothers — the pregnant woman’s employers — following an argument.In the ordeal, she lost her baby.Rights activists say the attack “was motivated because of Bibi’s [Christian] religious beliefs.”Speaking last Sunday from Rome, Pope Francis said:

It’s with pain, much pain that I was told of the terrorist attacks against two Christian churches in Lahore in Pakistan, which have caused numerous deaths and injuries. These are Christian churches and Christians are persecuted, our Christian brothers are spilling their blood simply because they are Christians. I implore God … that this persecution against Christians — that the world seeks to hide — comes to an end and that there is peace.​

Pope Francis is often criticized for his apologetic approach towards Islam. Even here, he does not note who is persecuting these Christians, leading to confusing assertions (“our Christian brothers are spilling their blood” sounds like Christians are killing Christians). But the pope is forthright as to why Christians are being killed: “simply because they are Christians.”Others, such as the U.S. government, will not even concede that much.When the world heard and saw how 21 Coptic Christians had their heads sawed off by Islamic jihadis in Libya, the White House issued a statement condemning the beheadings — but referred to the beheaded only as “Egyptian citizens.” Not Christians, or even Copts, even though that is the sole reason they were slaughtered according to statements issued by their executioners.Such obfuscation ensures the Muslim persecution of Christians “that the world seeks to hide” will continue indefinitely.

 

[ASQR1]

what ? pakistan is sacrificing for india ? :lol::lol::lol:


sending terrorists to kill indians daily ,pakistanis are making life hell for indians .


we send muslims for haj free itna ehsan hai.

Indians are lairs as proven over and over and over. About parliament attack it was Kashmiris who's families you are killing like rats, mass graves have been found.attack of train was your own Army major Rohit any by lying blamed it on Pakiatsn.

Now in Punjab the guy who attacked is not Pakiatni but lies, lies and more lies are told to blame Pakiatan, dude you have hanged innocent Muslims, you have killed Gujarati innocent Muslims, you interfered in east Pakistan by training a terrorist group like Mukti buhinis.

To know the truth that you do not want but let me tell to read a book written by an Indian lady named Sharmila Bhos about his India trained terrorist and interfered in East Pakists.

There is much more only if you want to talk truth Nd talk civilized.

Other easier go jump in the river Ganges. And take an ashnan, you need is to make you telling and believing the truth. dude.

 

[ASQR1]

Dude, this video is depicting about all that being very bad but Indian videos depicting by this woman as Devine, do you see the difference Dude, or you are unable to understand the big difference. Dude, if not than you are a troll.

 

[ballumsingh]

what is YONI angles ? [hilar][hilar][hilar]

yoni is not your area of interest because you belong to unnatural sex sodomy culture pakistan...............................[hilar][hilar][hilar]



SUNDAY, OCTOBER 31, 2010

Sodomy: Pakistan’s national hobby



Sodomy has been Pakistan’s national hobby. It’s rampant in this Islamic Republic of Pakistan. It’s being practised in madrassas.
Many of my friends, who are madrassa graduate, narrate the gruesome details of the sodomy episode repeated regularly in madrassas. Most of the time young boys are subjected to sexual abuse by their madrassa teachers.
Three boys have been accused of committing sodomy with a 15-year-old boy in a hostel associated with Islamabad Institute of Medical Sciencce, according to the media reports.Two weeks ago, an NGO report revealed that 1,216 children had been sexually abused in the first half of this year as compared to 968 recorded cases in the corresponding period last year.
This is the first reported case in which a gang, whose members are age fellows of the victim, has committed sodomy. Many such cases go un-reported due to shame and other social stigmas associated with sodomy.
My dad did a murder trial in which the father (accused) of a boy (aged 12) killed a person in the village. My dad represented the accused. The accused’s son went in to the fields to defecate. When the boy was sitting on the ground after removing his shalwar (trouser), the deceased came at the spot and trid to commit sodomy. The boy was lucky. He fled from the scene, leaving his shalwar there and coming all the way to his home. He narrated the whole incidnet to his father. His father took out his handgun and murdered the person who tried to sodomise his son. The father was given death sentence by the trial court, however the high court converted his death sentencce into life sentence recently. Sitting in the court room, while my dad was arguing the case before Lahore High Court Chief Justice Khawaja Muhammad Sharif, I was thinking about the boy’s father in the jail and the boy in the village.
The father has given his son social protection and courage to roam in the village streets without a honour. I am sure the sodomy in that village must have stopped after that incident. But few are courageous enough to make the issue public. Many vicitms and their families sulk for the rest of their lives.
I am also aware of some cases wherein the act of sodomy was filmed for future blackmailing. The video clip would be circulated in surrounding villages within the couple of hours of the sodomy. The victim in one such case brought the case in the court. The accused were punished for life. The victim went to England afterwards.
Laws in Pakistan are very strict about sodomy, but they are unable to give confidence to victims or their families to approach courts.
In the area adjoining Jhelum cantonment. A young boy was sodomised by two people who were in their mid-twenties. They took the boy from his house on the pretext of playing cricket with him and sodomised him in a deserted walled-property. The boy’s father came to our chamber and narrated the whole episode to me and my father. He was poor and we offered him our services for free. He was very nervous and would visit us daily. Despite all our assurances, he was reluctanct to go to the court.
He opted for an out-of-court-settlement with the accused. He told us that his own family elders were pressing him to give up the case. He let the accused go scot-free without even claiming come monetary compensation. I gave him the toll-free number of a non-government organisation who helps rehabiliatate sodomy victims, but I am sure he would not have called it.
The irony is that the poor boy is still living in the same area where the culprits with grins on their faces cross him daily in the streets.

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Open secrets
In Pakistan, sex between men is strictly forbidden by law and religion. But even in the most conservative regions, it's also embedded in the society.

By Miranda Kennedy | July 11, 2004

LAHORE -- The first time Aziz, a lean, dark-haired 20-year-old in this bustling cultural capital, had sex with a man, he was a pretty, illiterate boy of 16. A family friend took him to his house, put on a Pakistani-made soft-porn video, and raped him. Now, says Aziz (who gives only his first name), he is "addicted" to sex with men, so he hangs around Lahore's red-light districts, getting paid a few rupees for sex. At night, he goes home to his parents and prays to Allah to forgive him.

In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, homosexuality is not only illegal, it is a crime punishable by whipping, imprisonment, or even death. But across all classes and social groups, men have sex with men. In villages throughout the country, young boys are often forcibly "taken" by older men, starting a cycle of abuse and revenge that social activists and observers say is the common pattern of homosexual sex in Pakistan. Often these boys move to the cities and become prostitutes. Most people know it happens -- from the police to the wives of the men involved.

In some areas, homosexual sex is even tacitly accepted -- though still officially illegal -- as long as it doesn't threaten traditional marriage. In the Northwest Frontier Province (NWFP), which shares many tribal and cultural links with neighboring Afghanistan, the ethnic Pashtun men who dominate the region are renowned for taking young boys as lovers. No one has been executed for sodomy in Pakistan's recent history, but across the border in Afghanistan, the Taliban (who are also overwhelmingly Pashtun) executed three men for sodomy in 1998 by bulldozing a brick wall over them, burying two of them alive. (The third survived, which meant, according to Taliban law, that he was innocent, so he was taken to a hospital for treatment.)

Among Pakistan's urban elite, there is a growing community of men who identify as gay, some of whom even come out to their friends. Men meet on Internet bulletin boards, or at private pool parties with lots of rented boys and heavy security. But they are a tiny, terrified minority, living in cities such as Lahore, Karachi, or Islamabad, where the cultural elite has carved out a niche for itself. In a country where alcohol is forbidden except to Christians, dancing is banned, and the Koran guides many aspects of criminal law, such men rarely step outside of their protected world. (Because women in Pakistan inhabit, for the most part, a strictly private realm, it is difficult to say with any certainty how common lesbian relationships may be.)

Homosexuals in Pakistan walk a fine line between harsh legal and cultural prohibition and some form of unspoken social acceptance. "Islamic tradition frowns on but acknowledges male-male sex, and this plays a role in permitting clandestine sex so long as it is not allowed to interfere with family life, which is of paramount importance," the San Francisco-based sociologist Stephen O. Murray writes in "Sociolegal Control of Homosexuality: A Multi-Nation Comparison," a collection of scholarly essays published in 1997. Further complicating matters, the most common form of male homosexuality in Pakistan, according to Murray, is pederasty, where an older man entices or coerces (sometimes forcibly) a younger boy into sex.

Among the many obstacles facing men who have sex with men in Pakistan is this close association, in the eyes of many Pakistanis, between homosexuality and exploitation. But they face their own psychological barriers as well. Of the dozens of men interviewed for this article, almost none who admitted to having homosexual sex identified themselves as "gay." (All would give only their first names, which could not be verified, or would speak only anonymously.) Most do not even believe that homosexuality should be legal.

Aziz says he now enjoys sex with other men, but he believes that's only because he isn't able to have sex with women, who are largely inaccessible -- even in red-light districts, where there are many more men than women for rent. And like most Pakistani men who have homosexual sex, Aziz believes it is wrong. "The Verses of the Koran do not allow it," he says. "That's the only thing that matters."

. . .

According to the Koran, when the prophet Lot saw that his people had been engaged in sodomy and debauchery, he said, "Come ye to men, instead of women, lustfully? Ye are indeed a people given to excess." When they refused to repent their sins, Allah destroyed them: "And we rained a rain upon them: and see what was the end of the wicked!"

The lines don't seem to leave much room for interpretation. But Faisal Alam, founder of the Al-Fatiha Foundation, a Washington-based organization for gay and lesbian Muslims, argues that Lot's people were killed not because they had homosexual sex, but because they were forcing sex on each other. That interpretation is unlikely to hold much weight with Pakistan's religious leaders. The matter is not open for debate here -- not among mullahs, academics, or even activists.

Like many Pakistani men who have sex with men, Aziz believes he is plagued by a "satan," or demon, that makes him desire men. Veteran human rights lawyer Hina Jilani, who lives in Lahore and specializes in women's rights cases, says the inconsistent application of Sharia (Islamic law) and Pakistani criminal law has blurred the line between abuse and gay sex, and the emphasis on Islamic values has imbued the very word "homosexuality" with a moral color.

"Here we have two totally different issues: exploited boys and sex workers versus consensual sex," Jilani says. "But the majority of people will think of them as the same. Even people like myself who do understand this issue haven't been able to take it up, except in the context of violence against people on basis of sex orientation."Jilani says there are innumerable cases of young boys -- some sex workers, some not -- charged under Pakistan's sodomy law, even if they have been enticed into sex.

Jilani, who has defended dozens of children accused under the law, says they spend long years in jail awaiting trial; their families are stigmatized and often forced to disown them. In most parts of Pakistan, it's easier to lure a boy into sex than it is to catch a glimpse of a woman's legs. Sometimes it doesn't take more than the promise of a new cricket bat.

A 16-year-old who identifies himself only as Khurram knows all about that. Born in Dina, a small city in central Pakistan, his father died when he was young, and by the time he was 8 he was sent out to support his family. He says his employer sexually assaulted him, and he eventually realized that if he let it happen, he would make more money than he would serving chai. So he moved to the big city. Now he lives beside the bus stand in Rawalpindi, sleeping during the day and emerging at dusk to wait for work. For less than a dollar, he'll let a man have sex with him on a string bed behind a tobacco shop. "I don't like what I do," he says sorrowfully. "I am doing it so my sister can go to school."

. . .

There are no discernible red-light districts in the Northwest Frontier Province. In Peshawar, the provincial capital, women billow through the dusty streets in white "shuttlecock" burkas, named for the netted veil over the face. Many of the city's movie theaters have been shut down, and playing music in local buses is banned.

Ruled by an alliance of six Islamic parties who recently declared Sharia to be supreme over Pakistani national law, the NWFP is one of the most religiously conservative regions of Pakistan. This is the province that helped give rise to the Taliban, and where Al Qaeda leaders -- including Osama bin Laden -- continue to seek refuge, according to the Pakistani government.

Yet this is also the region of Pakistan where homosexuality is most tolerated -- however quietly. Among the Pashtun majority, having a young, attractive boyfriend is a symbol of prestige and wealth for affluent middle-aged men. Indeed, Pashtun men often keep a young boy in their hujra, the male room of the house that the wife rarely enters. The practice is so common that there are various slang terms for the boyfriends in different regional languages: larke (boy), warkai, alec.

According to many people interviewed in Peshawar, there's a strict code of behavior in these relationships. The boy is always the passive partner in sex and has often been coerced into the relationship; he is given food and clothes by his partner, and is in may cases forbidden to leave the relationship or marry. (In theory, the boys could marry when they're grown, but they are generally considered damaged, and end up wandering the streets as outcasts.)

Sayed Mudassir Shah, a human rights activist based in Peshawar, believes this goes on in part because of the extreme austerity of the traditional culture. Even after marriage, women are kept separate from men (except at night), and a strict interpretation of Islam discourages sports, music, and TV. Indeed, says Sayed, the practice is deeply embedded in the local culture. "It is so common to take boy lovers, that it is part of our Pashtun folklore," Sayed says. "One story tells of a wife crying to her husband that he has made her jealous, because he is spending so much time in the hujra with his boyfriend. This is folklore, but it is similar in life."

Sex between men is also commonplace in Pakistan's gender-segregated madrassas, or religious schools, where students and mullahs will go for months without setting eyes on a woman. Here, more than anywhere else in Pakistan, the situation resembles that found among prison inmates, where sex is mostly about availability and dominance rather than preference. In many cases, families take their sons to madrassas because they cannot afford to raise them themselves. A researcher with the AIDS Prevention Association of Pakistan (who asked that her name not be used) cited a saying such parents have for the teachers when they bring them their sons: "His flesh is yours, but his bones are ours."

. . .

A spirited, self-confident young man of 25 who lives in Islamabad, the nation's capital, and identifies himself only as Sajat, tells me that he first had sex with a man at a religious school in a central Pakistani village. But unlike most madrassa students and the boys in the red-light districts, Sajat's first sexual encounter with a man was by choice. Now a well-paid government servant in Islamabad, he hoots with laughter when he describes his preference for young, "hot-blooded, fighting soldier men," and happily recounts his regular trawls for boys through Islamabad's parks.

But Sajat's irreverent, openly gay self abruptly disappears when marriage comes up. He admits that he is engaged to a match of his parents' choosing, and will marry in the next two years. "Nature has made females for males, so after I get married, I will stop having sex with men," he intones, as though dutifully.

Indeed, gay men in Pakistan usually succumb to family pressure to marry, and those who are brave or rich enough to refuse to marry live under constant threat. Human rights workers say that the dearth of Pakistani gay-rights or community groups heightens the isolation and fear of those who identify -- and live -- as homosexuals. There are groups working against the spread of AIDS in Pakistan, but their work is often impeded by the cultural disapproval of homosexual sex.

Haji Muhammad Hanif, the general secretary of the AIDS Prevention Association of Pakistan, says that when he talks to male sex workers in the red-light districts of Lahore, he first asks them, "Do you know that gay sex is a heinous crime?" According to Pakistan's official figures, there were only some 2,000 cases of AIDS in Pakistan as of June 2003, but data collection is limited by social taboos. Estimates by the World Health Organization and UNAIDS put the 2002 figure at 78,000.

One bright spot for gay men in Pakistan is the Internet. There are several online bulletin boards that function as city-specific dating sites for gay men. The men who advertise on the sites are generally blunt about what they want: "Masculine Top looking for hot sex in Islamabad," runs a typical listing. One site, Pakistan Gays, tries to be more of a resource, with articles about homosexuality, health advice, and an anonymous question-answer service. There's even an audio version of sections of the Koran available for download, which shows the extent to which gay men in Pakistan hold onto their Muslim identity.

Pakistan Gays was founded two years ago by a middle-class accounting student in Lahore who spoke with me only on the condition of anonymity. He runs the site from Internet cafes so his family won't find out. As of June, the site had signed up 569 Pakistani members. Of those who registered, 302 identified themselves as gay, 241 as bisexual, and the rest as "transgender."

The website's founder is 20, and identifies as gay. He says he is in love with an Indian man he met over the Internet, but he harbors no hope of living in a gay relationship in either Pakistan or India, where homosexuality is also illegal and tolerance of gays is not much greater than in Pakistan. His plan is to refuse his parents' demands that he marry, and emigrate to the West with his Indian lover.

"It is difficult to be homosexual in Pakistan," he says, "because you always fear that if the people around you knew about your sexuality, what bad feelings they would have about you. We think that we are born this way, but still we feel we are doing wrong."

 

[modern.fakir]

yeah but I cant be a coconut oil mistake like you were with a calf [hilar][hilar][hilar]

Open secrets
In Pakistan, sex between men is strictly forbidden by law and religion. But even in the most conservative regions, it's also embedded in the society.

By Miranda Kennedy | July 11, 2004

LAHORE -- The first time Aziz, a lean, dark-haired 20-year-old in this bustling cultural capital, had sex with a man, he was a pretty, illiterate boy of 16. A family friend took him to his house, put on a Pakistani-made soft-porn video, and raped him. Now, says Aziz (who gives only his first name), he is "addicted" to sex with men, so he hangs around Lahore's red-light districts, getting paid a few rupees for sex. At night, he goes home to his parents and prays to Allah to forgive him.

In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, homosexuality is not only illegal, it is a crime punishable by whipping, imprisonment, or even death. But across all classes and social groups, men have sex with men. In villages throughout the country, young boys are often forcibly "taken" by older men, starting a cycle of abuse and revenge that social activists and observers say is the common pattern of homosexual sex in Pakistan. Often these boys move to the cities and become prostitutes. Most people know it happens -- from the police to the wives of the men involved.

In some areas, homosexual sex is even tacitly accepted -- though still officially illegal -- as long as it doesn't threaten traditional marriage. In the Northwest Frontier Province (NWFP), which shares many tribal and cultural links with neighboring Afghanistan, the ethnic Pashtun men who dominate the region are renowned for taking young boys as lovers. No one has been executed for sodomy in Pakistan's recent history, but across the border in Afghanistan, the Taliban (who are also overwhelmingly Pashtun) executed three men for sodomy in 1998 by bulldozing a brick wall over them, burying two of them alive. (The third survived, which meant, according to Taliban law, that he was innocent, so he was taken to a hospital for treatment.)

Among Pakistan's urban elite, there is a growing community of men who identify as gay, some of whom even come out to their friends. Men meet on Internet bulletin boards, or at private pool parties with lots of rented boys and heavy security. But they are a tiny, terrified minority, living in cities such as Lahore, Karachi, or Islamabad, where the cultural elite has carved out a niche for itself. In a country where alcohol is forbidden except to Christians, dancing is banned, and the Koran guides many aspects of criminal law, such men rarely step outside of their protected world. (Because women in Pakistan inhabit, for the most part, a strictly private realm, it is difficult to say with any certainty how common lesbian relationships may be.)

Homosexuals in Pakistan walk a fine line between harsh legal and cultural prohibition and some form of unspoken social acceptance. "Islamic tradition frowns on but acknowledges male-male sex, and this plays a role in permitting clandestine sex so long as it is not allowed to interfere with family life, which is of paramount importance," the San Francisco-based sociologist Stephen O. Murray writes in "Sociolegal Control of Homosexuality: A Multi-Nation Comparison," a collection of scholarly essays published in 1997. Further complicating matters, the most common form of male homosexuality in Pakistan, according to Murray, is pederasty, where an older man entices or coerces (sometimes forcibly) a younger boy into sex.

Among the many obstacles facing men who have sex with men in Pakistan is this close association, in the eyes of many Pakistanis, between homosexuality and exploitation. But they face their own psychological barriers as well. Of the dozens of men interviewed for this article, almost none who admitted to having homosexual sex identified themselves as "gay." (All would give only their first names, which could not be verified, or would speak only anonymously.) Most do not even believe that homosexuality should be legal.

Aziz says he now enjoys sex with other men, but he believes that's only because he isn't able to have sex with women, who are largely inaccessible -- even in red-light districts, where there are many more men than women for rent. And like most Pakistani men who have homosexual sex, Aziz believes it is wrong. "The Verses of the Koran do not allow it," he says. "That's the only thing that matters."

. . .

According to the Koran, when the prophet Lot saw that his people had been engaged in sodomy and debauchery, he said, "Come ye to men, instead of women, lustfully? Ye are indeed a people given to excess." When they refused to repent their sins, Allah destroyed them: "And we rained a rain upon them: and see what was the end of the wicked!"

The lines don't seem to leave much room for interpretation. But Faisal Alam, founder of the Al-Fatiha Foundation, a Washington-based organization for gay and lesbian Muslims, argues that Lot's people were killed not because they had homosexual sex, but because they were forcing sex on each other. That interpretation is unlikely to hold much weight with Pakistan's religious leaders. The matter is not open for debate here -- not among mullahs, academics, or even activists.

Like many Pakistani men who have sex with men, Aziz believes he is plagued by a "satan," or demon, that makes him desire men. Veteran human rights lawyer Hina Jilani, who lives in Lahore and specializes in women's rights cases, says the inconsistent application of Sharia (Islamic law) and Pakistani criminal law has blurred the line between abuse and gay sex, and the emphasis on Islamic values has imbued the very word "homosexuality" with a moral color.

"Here we have two totally different issues: exploited boys and sex workers versus consensual sex," Jilani says. "But the majority of people will think of them as the same. Even people like myself who do understand this issue haven't been able to take it up, except in the context of violence against people on basis of sex orientation."Jilani says there are innumerable cases of young boys -- some sex workers, some not -- charged under Pakistan's sodomy law, even if they have been enticed into sex.

Jilani, who has defended dozens of children accused under the law, says they spend long years in jail awaiting trial; their families are stigmatized and often forced to disown them. In most parts of Pakistan, it's easier to lure a boy into sex than it is to catch a glimpse of a woman's legs. Sometimes it doesn't take more than the promise of a new cricket bat.

A 16-year-old who identifies himself only as Khurram knows all about that. Born in Dina, a small city in central Pakistan, his father died when he was young, and by the time he was 8 he was sent out to support his family. He says his employer sexually assaulted him, and he eventually realized that if he let it happen, he would make more money than he would serving chai. So he moved to the big city. Now he lives beside the bus stand in Rawalpindi, sleeping during the day and emerging at dusk to wait for work. For less than a dollar, he'll let a man have sex with him on a string bed behind a tobacco shop. "I don't like what I do," he says sorrowfully. "I am doing it so my sister can go to school."

. . .

There are no discernible red-light districts in the Northwest Frontier Province. In Peshawar, the provincial capital, women billow through the dusty streets in white "shuttlecock" burkas, named for the netted veil over the face. Many of the city's movie theaters have been shut down, and playing music in local buses is banned.

Ruled by an alliance of six Islamic parties who recently declared Sharia to be supreme over Pakistani national law, the NWFP is one of the most religiously conservative regions of Pakistan. This is the province that helped give rise to the Taliban, and where Al Qaeda leaders -- including Osama bin Laden -- continue to seek refuge, according to the Pakistani government.

Yet this is also the region of Pakistan where homosexuality is most tolerated -- however quietly. Among the Pashtun majority, having a young, attractive boyfriend is a symbol of prestige and wealth for affluent middle-aged men. Indeed, Pashtun men often keep a young boy in their hujra, the male room of the house that the wife rarely enters. The practice is so common that there are various slang terms for the boyfriends in different regional languages: larke (boy), warkai, alec.

According to many people interviewed in Peshawar, there's a strict code of behavior in these relationships. The boy is always the passive partner in sex and has often been coerced into the relationship; he is given food and clothes by his partner, and is in may cases forbidden to leave the relationship or marry. (In theory, the boys could marry when they're grown, but they are generally considered damaged, and end up wandering the streets as outcasts.)

Sayed Mudassir Shah, a human rights activist based in Peshawar, believes this goes on in part because of the extreme austerity of the traditional culture. Even after marriage, women are kept separate from men (except at night), and a strict interpretation of Islam discourages sports, music, and TV. Indeed, says Sayed, the practice is deeply embedded in the local culture. "It is so common to take boy lovers, that it is part of our Pashtun folklore," Sayed says. "One story tells of a wife crying to her husband that he has made her jealous, because he is spending so much time in the hujra with his boyfriend. This is folklore, but it is similar in life."

Sex between men is also commonplace in Pakistan's gender-segregated madrassas, or religious schools, where students and mullahs will go for months without setting eyes on a woman. Here, more than anywhere else in Pakistan, the situation resembles that found among prison inmates, where sex is mostly about availability and dominance rather than preference. In many cases, families take their sons to madrassas because they cannot afford to raise them themselves. A researcher with the AIDS Prevention Association of Pakistan (who asked that her name not be used) cited a saying such parents have for the teachers when they bring them their sons: "His flesh is yours, but his bones are ours."

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A spirited, self-confident young man of 25 who lives in Islamabad, the nation's capital, and identifies himself only as Sajat, tells me that he first had sex with a man at a religious school in a central Pakistani village. But unlike most madrassa students and the boys in the red-light districts, Sajat's first sexual encounter with a man was by choice. Now a well-paid government servant in Islamabad, he hoots with laughter when he describes his preference for young, "hot-blooded, fighting soldier men," and happily recounts his regular trawls for boys through Islamabad's parks.

But Sajat's irreverent, openly gay self abruptly disappears when marriage comes up. He admits that he is engaged to a match of his parents' choosing, and will marry in the next two years. "Nature has made females for males, so after I get married, I will stop having sex with men," he intones, as though dutifully.

Indeed, gay men in Pakistan usually succumb to family pressure to marry, and those who are brave or rich enough to refuse to marry live under constant threat. Human rights workers say that the dearth of Pakistani gay-rights or community groups heightens the isolation and fear of those who identify -- and live -- as homosexuals. There are groups working against the spread of AIDS in Pakistan, but their work is often impeded by the cultural disapproval of homosexual sex.

Haji Muhammad Hanif, the general secretary of the AIDS Prevention Association of Pakistan, says that when he talks to male sex workers in the red-light districts of Lahore, he first asks them, "Do you know that gay sex is a heinous crime?" According to Pakistan's official figures, there were only some 2,000 cases of AIDS in Pakistan as of June 2003, but data collection is limited by social taboos. Estimates by the World Health Organization and UNAIDS put the 2002 figure at 78,000.

One bright spot for gay men in Pakistan is the Internet. There are several online bulletin boards that function as city-specific dating sites for gay men. The men who advertise on the sites are generally blunt about what they want: "Masculine Top looking for hot sex in Islamabad," runs a typical listing. One site, Pakistan Gays, tries to be more of a resource, with articles about homosexuality, health advice, and an anonymous question-answer service. There's even an audio version of sections of the Koran available for download, which shows the extent to which gay men in Pakistan hold onto their Muslim identity.

Pakistan Gays was founded two years ago by a middle-class accounting student in Lahore who spoke with me only on the condition of anonymity. He runs the site from Internet cafes so his family won't find out. As of June, the site had signed up 569 Pakistani members. Of those who registered, 302 identified themselves as gay, 241 as bisexual, and the rest as "transgender."

The website's founder is 20, and identifies as gay. He says he is in love with an Indian man he met over the Internet, but he harbors no hope of living in a gay relationship in either Pakistan or India, where homosexuality is also illegal and tolerance of gays is not much greater than in Pakistan. His plan is to refuse his parents' demands that he marry, and emigrate to the West with his Indian lover.

"It is difficult to be homosexual in Pakistan," he says, "because you always fear that if the people around you knew about your sexuality, what bad feelings they would have about you. We think that we are born this way, but still we feel we are doing wrong."

 

[ballumsingh]

on humanitarian ground i will recommend india govt to allow these this to carry with them.akhir human rights bhi koi cheej hai .