India asks Saudi Arabia to help improve ties with Pakistan

[Ammar isb]

The Saudi commitment to promote peace in the region is much appreciated, this however should be backed by substantial steps as the roots of extremism in Pakistan trace back to the Saudi funding to Wahbi radical Madaris, the major chuck of the terrorist caught from Pakistani soil were Saudi nationals! The Saudi governments need to curb on the financial recourses of Al-Qaeda and it needs to reflect upon its oppressive society. A good read on this would be todays editorial in daily times http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010\03\02\story_2-3-2010_pg3_1

 

[furry87]

From What I have found out following are the meanings of the word "Interlocutor";
1 Talker
2 Speaker
3 Interviewer
4 Interrogator
5 Questioner

It is not simply 'some one you talk to' It means someone you talk to with a certain purpose. So desicad before you try to fool us make sure that your politicians weave a very intricate and ghambeer jala of confusion around the issue.
As for Mr. tharoor his anti Pakistan stance is well known.

Haha....you did manage to spend some time with the dictionary.
I never said talking without any purpose. He didn't go there on a picnic to chit chat with Abdullah.
One thing is for sure it does not mean mediation between two parties.

Precisely what we say all the time , the back stabbing never stops...we did not say u want a mediator, you just want to defame and malign pakistan. Till now ajmal kasab the lone surviving terrorist has not been convicted by ur courts infact he stated that he had been tortured and shot to spread false propaganda, and then ur own government admitted that there were indian links, now im not saying kasab didnt do it or that it wasnt a terrorist act...im just saying look at the facts please for once, many acts of terrorism were committed by your own hindu extremist as false flags and you cannot deny that..Im not saying we didnt support terrorism or arnt doing it now, im just saying there isnt enough compelling evidence out there to prove that we did mumbai or samjhota . And once again you chose to look at the after effects of the real problem and not the real problem itself. You can dodge and jump the real issue like youve been doing for 60 years but the world and paksitanis are not stupid.

Again what the article said India does not want a mediator because they know they are wrong ,all the article said was that you are putting pressure on pakistan by interlocuting and maligning it infront of the international community and more importantly our friends.
This is exactly the sort of behaviour that we pakistanis despise and this is exactly why we do not trust bharat. Name one incident where pakistan has done this to you, unlike you we play fair.

Rmemeber 1999, Kargil? Please don't make tall claims of playing fair. Thanks.

You are relating kargil to bad mouthing pakistan every 14 days ?? Kargil we attacked you directly, we didnt go around asking saudi arabia or israel to attack you.That is what i meant by playing fair. But since u havnt responded to anythign else ill assume u have no reponse for what i said and it is completely true.

India is just milking mumbai and nothing else, and if you guys were ubias and impartial youd actually come to realize that. Dodging and jumping ,only now ur very good at avoiding the issues and mixing words to prolong ur occupation.
Your government has come to realize that a plebecite would mean only two things, kashmir joining pakistan or an independant kashmir hence all the drama.
No offence intended ,just calling it like i see it.

Kashmiris wanting Independence or autonomy is understandable, but they wanting to join pakistan is the biggest joke. And fury87 absolutely no offence intended here.

autonomy haha dont make me laugh , I presented the two most likely outcomes of the plebiscite ,they would rather die than join india. But as you see there are no riots or kashmiris pulling of mumbais in pakistan. Secondly you again dodge the issue. Read a bit of the two state theory also read the part regarding muslim and hindu majority. If in 1947 the people of kashmir were given a choice they wouldve over whelmingly supported pakistan that is my over whelming belief because my great grandfathers, both of them were kashmiri in the indian army. You have no moral ground here ,its just a brutal occupation. You can try to jump dodge and raise other issues and try to defame and attack us but we will not forget about kashmir. If independence is waht they want then independence is what we will fight for. We do not wish to control kashmir with brutality like you.

 

[desicad]

Precisely what we say all the time , the back stabbing never stops...we did not say u want a mediator, you just want to defame and malign pakistan. Till now ajmal kasab the lone surviving terrorist has not been convicted by ur courts infact he stated that he had been tortured and shot to spread false propaganda, and then ur own government admitted that there were indian links, now im not saying kasab didnt do it or that it wasnt a terrorist act...im just saying look at the facts please for once, many acts of terrorism were committed by your own hindu extremist as false flags and you cannot deny that..Im not saying we didnt support terrorism or arnt doing it now, im just saying there isnt enough compelling evidence out there to prove that we did mumbai or samjhota . And once again you chose to look at the after effects of the real problem and not the real problem itself. You can dodge and jump the real issue like youve been doing for 60 years but the world and paksitanis are not stupid.

Again what the article said India does not want a mediator because they know they are wrong ,all the article said was that you are putting pressure on pakistan by interlocuting and maligning it infront of the international community and more importantly our friends.
This is exactly the sort of behaviour that we pakistanis despise and this is exactly why we do not trust bharat. Name one incident where pakistan has done this to you, unlike you we play fair.

Rmemeber 1999, Kargil? Please don't make tall claims of playing fair. Thanks.

You are relating kargil to bad mouthing pakistan every 14 days ?? Kargil we attacked you directly, we didnt go around asking saudi arabia or israel to attack you.That is what i meant by playing fair. But since u havnt responded to anythign else ill assume u have no reponse for what i said and it is completely true.

I am not relating Kargil to anything, brought up that point to answer your use of the term 'back stabbing'. I should have highlighted it last time itself. Don't tell me Pakistan is not bad mouthing India and blaming India for the terrorist attacks in your country. Its just that your words don't carry much weight in the International community. Hope you agree.

India is just milking mumbai and nothing else, and if you guys were ubias and impartial youd actually come to realize that. Dodging and jumping ,only now ur very good at avoiding the issues and mixing words to prolong ur occupation.
Your government has come to realize that a plebecite would mean only two things, kashmir joining pakistan or an independant kashmir hence all the drama.
No offence intended ,just calling it like i see it.

Kashmiris wanting Independence or autonomy is understandable, but they wanting to join pakistan is the biggest joke. And fury87 absolutely no offence intended here.[/quote]

autonomy haha dont make me laugh , I presented the two most likely outcomes of the plebiscite ,they would rather die than join india. But as you see there are no riots or kashmiris pulling of mumbais in pakistan. Secondly you again dodge the issue. Read a bit of the two state theory also read the part regarding muslim and hindu majority. If in 1947 the people of kashmir were given a choice they wouldve over whelmingly supported pakistan that is my over whelming belief because my great grandfathers, both of them were kashmiri in the indian army. You have no moral ground here ,its just a brutal occupation. You can try to jump dodge and raise other issues and try to defame and attack us but we will not forget about kashmir. If independence is waht they want then independence is what we will fight for. We do not wish to control kashmir with brutality like you.

You can laugh, no problem. I don't want to discuss Kashmir again in this thread, but just want to let you that it's not Kashmiries responsible for Mumbai attacks, but terrorist organisations like LET, jamatuldawa etc. and maybe few kashmiri jehadis who are funded and supported by the govt. agencies. You will agree that terrorrism was an instrument of Pakistan's state policy.

 

[dil-se-desi]

[quote="Star Gazer":32kb887f]Strange are the ways of the neighbor. On one hand india has always refused to accept a third party intervention in any matter especially with Pakistan,while on the other hand it is trying to engage SA. India should first announce if there is a change in it's policy of accepting third party intervention/mediation,if so be the case then Pakistan can also ask other countries to help solve the Kashmir issue.
Ithink they are now 'sattpattaiy' hooway.

when you people ask for solution of kashmir problem do you
think india will give you kashmir on a plate?
you have destroyed your generations on this issue ,did you achieve anything?

put your house in order first,you know how grave situation is inside.you have
nothing to offer to indian kashmiris other than hunger and destruction.

worse case scenario....if the whole world unite against indian on kashmir issue
(chances are not there in next 2000 years) india has 18 crore indian muslim card,which it can play.
what is the future of 18 corore muslims in india after kashmir is gone????

Hello dil-se-desi, not sure what you mean by India playing a muslim card. If you mean India will claim Kashmir just because it has the second largest muslim population in the world then that will never happen. India's policy is clear on this matter that regions cannot be divided or claimed on the basis of religion. Also there is no relation between the future of Indian muslims and the Kashmir dispute.
Hope you understand what I mean.[/quote:32kb887f]



I think I have explained it further in my 2 last posts.
It is a one version,
when OIC passes (influenced by our neighbor)Kashmir resolution just on the
basis of religion try to polarize the world between muslim and non muslims.

do they have courage to question china on chinese muslim situation.the way
china demolished thousands of mosques in last half century.

see how innocent muslims are suffering aftermath of 911.
same way fundamentalist muslims should know that there are fundamentalist Hindus too.
any misadventure by muslim world will pave the way to power for them.

OIC (a teethless muslim countries club) should restrain from religious politics
outside of their boundaries for the sake of muslims living in non-muslim countries

 

[furry87]

I agree a policy forced upon us by the indian occupation and mass murder and rape of indian army.

 

[muslimfrompakistan]

America always work to keep rivalry between Pak. & India to use India against Pakistan. Mumbai attack was plan by America and sold to Inida.

 

[furry87]

muslm from pakistan why do i feel you are indian and hindu ?? ...why is it that i find so many indians pretending to be balochi on the youtube...lol some of them have even been caught using IP adresses from india haha ...watch out pakis, anyone with names like thisbaloch or thatbaloch are all indians. Same goes for the pashtun wanna be indians floating around.

Pakiz beware. Dont respond with hate when u hear such people that is what the indians want.