Imran Urges Pakistanis To Protect Their National Security

[Dr Adam]

عمران خان عوامی مقبولیت اور حمایت کی بلندی پر کھڑا ہے اور

Raja Jee swailaie swalaie kaei hoee rayaa nay tuusaan kee?? Apni Ainouk kootha pullee raaye O? Ainouk laa kay takko aei tapoosiaan maarda janaa Gabbar Singh aka pappoo nawaz sharif aa! Isaan kee apniaan choriaan nee saza paee milnay aay!

 

[Annie]

P_J please try to understand, anybody from anywhere on this planet earth can make a twitter account just in a minute. People have multiple accounts, and you know the fact that its a techy war now. Can anybody guarantee us that all these twitter accounts are not of Indians or hostile forces against Pakistan?? Or for the sake of argument who knows Basanti's Media Cell is behind all this, maligning the Armed Forces of Pakistan??? We have to keep our ears and eyes open buddy. There is no need to get carried away and fall in their trap and start playing in the hands of these people. That is exactly what they want.

We very well know our enemy/s, just be vigilant and give them a good Chitrol with your arguments. I know you write well and you are very articulate, but we should also be careful and not err in our judgement. I read your thread "Mian Sb tusee great O". I felt really hurt that how come a patriotic person like P_J got so much carried away and carries so much venom against the defenders of the country?? You are not like that P_J I know this for sure! Please don't mind, whatever I felt I am honestly telling you. At the end of the day our identity is Islam and Pakistan, no matter where ever we live on this globe.

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Oh Hello Dr Sahib, Really you think so????

I think your theory is far too weak. Someone told me that he was reading ISPR facebook page and there were about 600 comments and they were all contained bashing for them except 3 r 4 comments. Holy cow needs to understand they need to put country and its welfare first. They are not beyond criticism. Is this sane act by them to lean on their knees in front of this cheap corrupt noora? No one did any harm to them they bargained for it themselves.
Dawn leaks couldn't harm their image in front of the nation's eyes but their floppy act downgraded their image among people of the country.

 

[دوسرا_سوال]

عمران خان عوامی مقبولیت اور حمایت کی بلندی پر کھڑا ہے اور ہم خان صاحب کے اس مطالبے کی پوری پوری حمایت کرتے ہیں ہمیں پتہ چلنا چاہئے کہ ہماری نظریاتی اور زمینی سرحدوں کی حفاظت کرنے والے ہماری سلامتی کے ساتھ کتنے مخلص اور کمیٹڈ ہیں

آپ لوگوں کو نیوکلیئر بمز کے پاس کوڈز بھی نا دے دیں؟ تا کہ آپ محب وطن انسیاپیۓ یہ بھی چیک کر لیں کہ وہ چلتے بھی ہیں یا آرمی / گورنمنٹ کا بس ڈرامہ ہیں

 

[دوسرا_سوال]

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Oh Hello Dr Sahib, Really you think so????

I think your theory is far too weak. Someone told me that he was reading ISPR facebook page and there were about 600 comments and they were all contained bashing for them except 3 r 4 comments. Holy cow needs to understand they need to put country and its welfare first. They are not beyond criticism. Is this sane act by them to lean on their knees in front of this cheap corrupt noora? No one did any harm to them they bargained for it themselves.
Dawn leaks couldn't harm their image in front of the nation's eyes but their floppy act downgraded their image among people of the country.

Waaaatsaan!


You are forthwith ordered to prepare the a draft legislation so it could be tabled in next National Assembly ijlaas. The bill should state that the Passwords and Command & Control of Pak's nuclear arsenal must be given in the hands of our most patriotic leader Imran Khan, so that he uploads them on the most patriotic website insaf.pk, where every patriotic Pakistani can "check and verify" that the arsenal important to National Security is in good hands.


I already know you will find one excuse after the other to not draft up this bill (lazy as you are), so bear in mind no excuses. Now our beloved leader has told us that National Security is clearly a matter which is to be dealt by one true patriotic leader, i.e. him, and his true followers "mairay Pakistanio".


It should be on my desk by tomorrow morning. Chop chop Watson!

 

[Annie]

Waaaatsaan!


You are forthwith ordered to prepare the a draft legislation so it could be tabled in next National Assembly ijlaas. The bill should state that the Passwords and Command & Control of Pak's nuclear arsenal must be given in the hands of our most patriotic leader Imran Khan, so that he uploads them on the most patriotic website insaf.pk, where every patriotic Pakistani can "check and verify" that the arsenal important to National Security is in good hands.


I already know you will find one excuse after the other to not draft up this bill (lazy as you are), so bear in mind no excuses. Now our beloved leader has told us that National Security is clearly a matter which is to be dealt by one true patriotic leader, i.e. him, and his true followers "mairay Pakistanio".


It should be on my desk by tomorrow morning. Chop chop Watson!

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Would you care to take off your political glasses and see the situation as Pakistani?

It is not Imran Khan's job to keep nuclear passwords or take control of defence institutes. Everyone has a role and one must bound to perform that.
I am not following dot to dot which is drawn by IK. My priority is my country and its self respect. I strongly think army should have kept their assertiveness and integrity by putting their foot down and shouldn't have negotiated for their image for any reason.

 

[back to the future]

Waaaatsaan!


You are forthwith ordered to prepare the a draft legislation so it could be tabled in next National Assembly ijlaas. The bill should state that the Passwords and Command & Control of Pak's nuclear arsenal must be given in the hands of our most patriotic leader Imran Khan, so that he uploads them on the most patriotic website insaf.pk, where every patriotic Pakistani can "check and verify" that the arsenal important to National Security is in good hands.


I already know you will find one excuse after the other to not draft up this bill (lazy as you are), so bear in mind no excuses. Now our beloved leader has told us that National Security is clearly a matter which is to be dealt by one true patriotic leader, i.e. him, and his true followers "mairay Pakistanio".


It should be on my desk by tomorrow morning. Chop chop Watson!

Hail Hitler.

Do number swaal when your do number leader plants a news that the Army is not allowing it to do what he as a crook corrupt and shortsighted want to do to please his masters mooDi trump and Co.Then what is there to understand.Why can't IK or we can question that act of enmity eith country?

 

[Husaink]

آپ لوگوں کو نیوکلیئر بمز کے پاس کوڈز بھی نا دے دیں؟ تا کہ آپ محب وطن انسیاپیۓ یہ بھی چیک کر لیں کہ وہ چلتے بھی ہیں یا آرمی / گورنمنٹ کا بس ڈرامہ ہیں

نہیں جی پٹواریوں کے گنج خانے پر یقین کرلیں جن کا نعرہ ہی یہ ہے


کنڈی نہ کھڑکا مودیا سدھا رائیونڈ آ

 

[Dr Adam]

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Oh Hello Dr Sahib, Really you think so????

I think your theory is far too weak. Someone told me that he was reading ISPR facebook page and there were about 600 comments and they were all contained bashing for them except 3 r 4 comments. Holy cow needs to understand they need to put country and its welfare first. They are not beyond criticism. Is this sane act by them to lean on their knees in front of this cheap corrupt noora? No one did any harm to them they bargained for it themselves.
Dawn leaks couldn't harm their image in front of the nation's eyes but their floppy act downgraded their image among people of the country.

Annie let me start with a reality check, and I presume if you had known few facts --- perhaps you may not have asked this question to a person whose 3 uncles laid down their lives defending Lahore & Sialkot sectors in 1965 war. This person's 2 real brothers and 2 sons of one of the Shaheed uncles embraced martyrdom in 1971 war defending this country. One son of this person's Shaheed brother lost his lower limbs due to exposure to extreme cold while serving this country at Siachen. This person's real sister's handsome boy, a young captain, sacrificed his life just 2 years ago in Waziristan defending his country. If you still think these sacrifices from just one family are not enough and bashing the defenders of this country without any knowledge is okay, and if anybody thinks it does not hurt then its fine with all the Shuhada families who sacrificed their loved ones to defend this country. People are entitled to their opinion and they can say whatever they want to.

Coming on to your thesis: I think its premature becoming judge-mental, as outside of the PM and the Chief nobody knows what actually transpired in getting into this situation. The dilemma of the Army is --- if they put their foot down on any issue they are damned and if they don't they still are damned. Its always a catch 22 position for them. And BTW, that is the narrative of the enemy as well. If the PM of the country is hell bent towing enemy's line for his personal gains then iss muulk kaa Allah Hafiz. Supreme Court under Chief Justice, Mr. Justice Iftikhar Ch effectively closed all the doors for any Army intervention in all form as long as this Constitution holds the field in its present form. So what ultimate choice did the Army have???
Please do not think that they bargained for themselves, the little knowledge of their working that I have, I say with conviction that its not true.

This decades old deep seated menace of corruption nurtured by Nawaz and Zardari can only be rooted out when the Higher Judiciary and the Pakistan Army work hand in glove. Any one institution of the two acting alone can not eliminate these Mafias and they are bound to fail. I totally understand the feelings of the public at large but they should also try to understand the limitations of the Armed Forces in the present scenario, changing by the hour. Despite the strategic capabilities Pakistan has, it has never been in such vulnerable position as it is today. This is all because of the corruption of Nawaz and Zardari. Once the Supreme Court slaps a verdict against Sharifs and the corruption in Panama Scandal and orders the Army for Operation Clean Up under the Constitution, then you mark my words a new history will be written for this helpless nation.

India and Pakistan's population put together, the number is close to 1.7 billion I guess. Out of this number, if in 5 days there are about 600 comments on FB page of ISPR then what is the value of that??? Twittery's Media Cell alone is capable of producing more than that.

Annie I would say keep faith in Allah and put little trust in your institutions, after this recent uncalled for bashing I am sure the Army will also be more mindful of their public image in future.

I think I have tried to answer your questions and I hope it helps.
If for any reason not, then lets agree to disagree and STOP this discussion over here.

 

[Annie]

Annie let me start with a reality check, and I presume if you had known few facts --- perhaps you may not have asked this question to a person whose 3 uncles laid down their lives defending Lahore & Sialkot sectors in 1965 war. This person's 2 real brothers and 2 sons of one of the Shaheed uncles embraced martyrdom in 1971 war defending this country. One son of this person's Shaheed brother lost his lower limbs due to exposure to extreme cold while serving this country at Siachen. This person's real sister's handsome boy, a young captain, sacrificed his life just 2 years ago in Waziristan defending his country. If you still think these sacrifices from just one family are not enough and bashing the defenders of this country without any knowledge is okay, and if anybody thinks it does not hurt then its fine with all the Shuhada families who sacrificed their loved ones to defend this country. People are entitled to their opinion and they can say whatever they want to.

Coming on to your thesis: I think its premature becoming judge-mental, as outside of the PM and the Chief nobody knows what actually transpired in getting into this situation. The dilemma of the Army is --- if they put their foot down on any issue they are damned and if they don't they still are damned. Its always a catch 22 position for them. And BTW, that is the narrative of the enemy as well. If the PM of the country is hell bent towing enemy's line for his personal gains then iss muulk kaa Allah Hafiz. Supreme Court under Chief Justice, Mr. Justice Iftikhar Ch effectively closed all the doors for any Army intervention in all form as long as this Constitution holds the field in its present form. So what ultimate choice did the Army have???
Please do not think that they bargained for themselves, the little knowledge of their working that I have, I say with conviction that its not true.

This decades old deep seated menace of corruption nurtured by Nawaz and Zardari can only be rooted out when the Higher Judiciary and the Pakistan Army work hand in glove. Any one institution of the two acting alone can not eliminate these Mafias and they are bound to fail. I totally understand the feelings of the public at large but they should also try to understand the limitations of the Armed Forces in the present scenario, changing by the hour. Despite the strategic capabilities Pakistan has, it has never been in such vulnerable position as it is today. This is all because of the corruption of Nawaz and Zardari. Once the Supreme Court slaps a verdict against Sharifs and the corruption in Panama Scandal and orders the Army for Operation Clean Up under the Constitution, then you mark my words a new history will be written for this helpless nation.

India and Pakistan's population put together, the number is close to 1.7 billion I guess. Out of this number, if in 5 days there are about 600 comments on FB page of ISPR then what is the value of that??? Twittery's Media Cell alone is capable of producing more than that.

Annie I would say keep faith in Allah and put little trust in your institutions, after this recent uncalled for bashing I am sure the Army will also be more mindful of their public image in future.

I think I have tried to answer your questions and I hope it helps.
If for any reason not, then lets agree to disagree and STOP this discussion over here.

Dr Sahib I have great respect for those who are fighting for our country and laying their lives for our future. We owe to all those who sacrificed their lives for our country. No other views about it agree with you.

My views had nothing to do with hard working sincere soldiers of our country . I have deep respect for all of them,

My objection was for high command which handles such disputes. You must be aware that mind strategies are crucial for armed forces to stay on top of all psychological game. Unfortunately they took it lightly without considering the impact on the nation and worldwide.

Dr Sahib there normally it is said 'NO smoke without fire'.
There is definitely fire that's why there is smoke of bashing for them. We respect them and have high expectation from them. They need to be aware of that. I am sorry I dont have any trust remained for any institute. Not even hopeful from SC or JIT either.

There are enemies trolls in cyber world but we better accept the reality our people are unhappy about army recent pull back.

 

[دوسرا_سوال]

Hail Hitler.

Do number swaal when your do number leader plants a news that the Army is not allowing it to do what he as a crook corrupt and shortsighted want to do to please his masters mooDi trump and Co.Then what is there to understand.Why can't IK or we can question that act of enmity eith country?

What nonsense are you talking about?


Army is saying matter is sorted. Govt. is saying matter is sorted. In all honestly, there was no matter to begin with except for the useless hype it got from media (social & electronic).


It was never the first time when India or USA said that Pak is playing a double game or that Pak keeps non-state actors under its wings as part of its National Security paradigm. They've been saying that since mid-2000s loudly and on every forum. And you and I know this as a fact.


Dawn Leaks was never the first time India or USA got an excuse to say that - so stop crying about it.


Plus during the peak of the hype, few TV shows took camera on the streets and asked people what they knew Dawn Leaks caused and the people were as clueless as ever. I bet, you can't even state in few lines what exactly was the wrong that allegedly happened in the so-called Dawn Leaks.


If you're so crying and whining about the leaks, then please read this piece here by Army's beloved anchor Wajahat Saeed: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...ief-will-agree-to-curb-army-s-power-p60xhqgfd


In it, he says in a meeting, junior Army officer grilled their chief (as if it was an unprofessional institution) among many other objectionable claims. Who leaked that? Are you proud of this sentence "...General Qamar Javed Bajwa, appointed as commander of the world’s sixth-largest army in November, received a grilling last week from junior officers..." ? Please tell me you approve of this sentence so that I can ask you beloved leader IK to say that on media.


Fact is that you're just a blind-follower who'll (metaphorically) wag its tail behind every truck ki batti which your beloved leader will show you in his quest for becoming the PM by hook or by crook, and you'll wag your tail (metaphorically) to any thing he says, whether it makes sense or not.


Honestly I have no hope because (among other things) you guys have accepted:

- fathering a lovechild and absconding from paternity suit thereof,

- buying properties bainami, undervaluing them, and building illegal structures on them,

- alleging "benti banjar" for over a year by IK saying that he has himself listened to the tape, and when the time comes to provide information of who brought the tape, who made him listen and how etc. etc., just runaway from everything by calling it a "sayasi bayan"...

- or, keeping the corrupt Tareen-o-Aleem under wings to use their wealth to do politics,​

as the height of morality. So, this Dawn Leaks drama-bazi is nothing new.


(I bet you didn't even read the whole reply and you're going to start abusing me in your next reply).

 

[back to the future]

What nonsense are you talking about?


Army is saying matter is sorted. Govt. is saying matter is sorted. In all honestly, there was no matter to begin with except for the useless hype it got from media (social & electronic).


It was never the first time when India or USA said that Pak is playing a double game or that Pak keeps non-state actors under its wings as part of its National Security paradigm. They've been saying that since mid-2000s loudly and on every forum. And you and I know this as a fact.


Dawn Leaks was never the first time India or USA got an excuse to say that - so stop crying about it.


Plus during the peak of the hype, few TV shows took camera on the streets and asked people what they knew Dawn Leaks caused and the people were as clueless as ever. I bet, you can't even state in few lines what exactly was the wrong that allegedly happened in the so-called Dawn Leaks.


If you're so crying and whining about the leaks, then please read this piece here by Army's beloved anchor Wajahat Saeed: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...ief-will-agree-to-curb-army-s-power-p60xhqgfd


In it, he says in a meeting, junior Army officer grilled their chief (as if it was an unprofessional institution) among many other objectionable claims. Who leaked that? Are you proud of this sentence "...General Qamar Javed Bajwa, appointed as commander of the world’s sixth-largest army in November, received a grilling last week from junior officers..." ? Please tell me you approve of this sentence so that I can ask you beloved leader IK to say that on media.


Fact is that you're just a blind-follower who'll (metaphorically) wag its tail behind every truck ki batti which your beloved leader will show you in his quest for becoming the PM by hook or by crook, and you'll wag your tail (metaphorically) to any thing he says, whether it makes sense or not.


Honestly I have no hope because (among other things) you guys have accepted:

- fathering a lovechild and absconding from paternity suit thereof,

- buying properties bainami, undervaluing them, and building illegal structures on them,

- alleging "benti banjar" for over a year by IK saying that he has himself listened to the tape, and when the time comes to provide information of who brought the tape, who made him listen and how etc. etc., just runaway from everything by calling it a "sayasi bayan"...

- or, keeping the corrupt Tareen-o-Aleem under wings to use their wealth to do politics,​

as the height of morality. So, this Dawn Leaks drama-bazi is nothing new.


(I bet you didn't even read the whole reply and you're going to start abusing me in your next reply).

Hahaha!

That is not how one sort out matters of National Security i.e., you are blaming meaning PM and his laadli that Hafiz Saeed and others are under the cover of Army and we are ready to obey your orders only Army is not allowing us to do this.

Fact is you are a blind and dumb follower of Nawaz Shareef and you have turn a blind eye towards his achievements under the Panama leaks.

How important is kashmir to us strategically where India is constructing Dams and diverting streams and rivers flowing into pakistan and helping Kabul to build dam on River Kabul are facts which are beyond your dumb mind obviously.Rest is blah blah uttered by evry tom d ick potwari need no response.

 

[RajaRawal111]

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