Importance of Namaz-e-Fajar
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Wake up Pak
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Laanat hay is moulvi per Hazrat Mohammad (SAW) ko insult kar raha hay...
No such thing as Namaz in the Quran. All men made stuff.
No such thing as Namaz in the Quran. All men made stuff.
Abdullah9
Senator (1k+ posts)
NON SENSE! no arguments please.
Wake up Pak
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
NON SENSE Stay away if you have no arguments to support your claim.
Faisal-Saleem
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Where is the call for prayer mentioned in the Quran?
وَإِذَا نَادَيْتُمْ إِلَى الصَّلَوةِ اتَّخَذُوهَا هُزُوًا وَلَعِبًا ذَٰلِكَ بِأَنَّهُمْ قَوْمٌ لَّا يَعْقِلُونَ
(5:58) And when you call for prayer, they make it an object of mockery and amusement, this is because they are a people devoid of understanding.
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِذَا نُودِيَ لِلصَّلَوةِ مِن يَوْمِ الْجُمُعَةِ فَاسْعَوْا
إِلَىٰ ذِكْرِ اللَّهِ وَذَرُوا الْبَيْعَ ذَٰلِكُمْ خَيْرٌ لَّكُمْ إِن كُنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ
(62:9) O you who believe, when the call for prayer is announced on the day of gathering (Friday), hurry to [celebrate] God’s remembrance, and cease all business. It is better for you, if (only) you knew. (62:10) When the salât is finished, then disperse through the land and seek God’s bounty. Remember God frequently, so that you may prosper.إِلَىٰ ذِكْرِ اللَّهِ وَذَرُوا الْبَيْعَ ذَٰلِكُمْ خَيْرٌ لَّكُمْ إِن كُنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ
What we learn from these two verses is that the verb used to refer to the call to prayer in the Quran is the verb “nâdâ” (نادي = “to call in a loud voice”, form III). If you want to describe the person who “calls” to prayer according to the laws of Quranic Arabic, you have to form an active participle from the verb “nâdâ” (in this case it is the word “munâdiyun” = مُنَادِيٌ, form III) and it is by applying this very simple rule that we get to the verse which mentions the person who calls to prayer and pronounces the Quranic call to prayer:
رَّبَّنَا إِنَّنَا سَمِعْنَا مُنَادِيًا يُنَادِي لِلْإِيمَنِ أَنْ آمِنُوا بِرَبِّكُمْ فَآمَنَّا
رَبَّنَا فَاغْفِرْ لَنَا ذُنُوبَنَا وَكَفِّرْ عَنَّا سَيِّاتِنَا وَتَوَفَّنَا مَعَ الْأَبْرَارِ
رَبَّنَا فَاغْفِرْ لَنَا ذُنُوبَنَا وَكَفِّرْ عَنَّا سَيِّاتِنَا وَتَوَفَّنَا مَعَ الْأَبْرَارِ
(3:193) Our Lord, verily we have heard a caller calling to faith, “Have faith in your Lord!”; So we have believed; Our Lord!, so remit our sins and expunge our evil deeds and cause us to die among the righteous.
The call to prayer in the Quran is therefore “آمِنُوا بِرَبِّكُمْ” (âminû bi rabbikum = “Have faith in your Lord!”). This implies that the words “adhân” (أَذَان) or “muadhin” (مُؤَذِّن = announcer, form II) that are found in hadiths and used in Sunni and Shia Islam in relation to the “call to prayer” are a corruption of the pure Arabic language found in the Quran. The words “adhân” and “mouadhin” are indeed Quranic words but have a different meaning in the Quran and simply never relate to the call to prayer.
Please read the article “The Quranic call to prayer” for extensive details proving the fact that the true Quranic call to prayer is “âminû bi rabbikum” (“آمِنُوا بِرَبِّكُمْ” = “Have faith in your Lord!”). It can be recited once or more times in a row (for instance 1 minute), as there is no Quranic prohibition to do so; the goal is obviously to make sure that believers and the human race in general are reminded that it is time to pray God. There is no call to prayer for the night prayer as it is optional (17:79), therefore there are only four of them (nightfall prayer, dawn prayer, noon prayer and mid-afternoon prayer).
The gematrical value of the call to prayer is 362 (آمِنُوا بِرَبِّكُمْ = “have faith in your Lord!”, GV 362) and we combine to it the gematrical value of « al salât » (GV 162) it is interesting that we get the following result:
362 (آمِنُوا بِرَبِّكُمْ = “Have faith in your Lord”) + 162 (الصلوة = “al salât”) = 524 = 4 × 131 (GV « salât »).
And God knows best.
Wake up Pak
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
These ayats does not tell me that salat means namaz.
Even for the sake of argument let's say that it means namaz then can you show me the complete method of namaz in the Qur'an?
How many rakat, what are the timings, what actions to Take and what to read in the namaz?
Brother do not do if you do not want to.....but do not argue to show you are arrogance.
Do not ask others you can read Quran by yourself and you will find the answers to your questions. Do not make arguments with other.
Wake up Pak
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Brother im not being arrogant.
I have read the Quran and I do not find namaz in it.
Do you know how to do namaz as per the Quran?
Brother, if you have read quran you will never ask this question. Not only Namaz but Quran also tells you how to do Wuddoo and what are the timings of Namaz. If you read QURAN you will not be talking like this.....I would suggest read with a translation which you can understand. May Allah help you.
Wake up Pak
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Brother I have read the Quran several times.
Still you haven't answered my question about how to pray what to read what actions to take whst are the timings?
I know Quran tells us how to do wuddoo but it has nothing to do with namaz.
If you have read the quran you would know. You are just trying to make fun here. If you have block in your mind then you better read this well. I do not need to convince you for something which you even do not know what you are talking about.
I answered you very clearly and do not want to argue anymore. There is no answer for arrogant people. There are people like you who just pose as if they are the most smart people and anything else is crap and make fun of Islam. Keep in mind you are not the only one. As I said, if you read Quran the answer is there. I know what you are trying to refer and you are saying this because you have a block in your reading (if you ever read). May Allah help you if you really are ignorant enough.
Wake up Pak
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Obviously you have not read the Quran. you don't have the logical and rational answer to my questions that is why you are running away.
I have dealt many like you who pose if they know everything, in fact, they are blind followers of their mullah and parents.
Again I challenge you to answer me how to pray as per the Quran? How many Rakat? what to read and what actions to take?
I hope you could answer these questions and convince me so that I will start to believe that namaz is in the Quran.
Brother, I do not need to publicize and just criticize. Keep your beleive and be happy on this. Asslam o Alaikum.
Wake up Pak
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Brother then you should not have replied to my post. It is you who started it and, now that you have no answers to my questions
You just want to escape.
Anyway, have a good day and when you get a chance study the Quran without preconceived mind of what you were taught from childhood.
I was born into a Sunni family but eventually I found out that there is lot of stuff which majority of us follow have no basis in the Deen of Allah. Majority are empty rituals with no benefits to the humanity.
May Allah guide us all.
Wassalam.
W/Salaam.
