If Musharraf handed over Pakistanis to USA ?
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khan afghan
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Musharaf kay Pitoo it seems that you have got your share from that dollars.
The way you talk in this video it shows that you were also involved in all this
dramma.I have no sympathy for Dr aafia as she is Americn citizen and let her face
that country legal system.Another thing her brother ,sister all got american citizenship
and they all are living there but she should be treated as human being.The
tragedy of Pakistan is that it has been looted by their own people.And one of them
is General Musharaf who and his company looted this poor country.Now the people like you are singing in favoure of him,There is a day of judgement and you will be asked about all these.Life is very short and be ready for that bad day where there will be no musharaf
or no general to save you from the Azaab-E-Ellahi.
The way you talk in this video it shows that you were also involved in all this
dramma.I have no sympathy for Dr aafia as she is Americn citizen and let her face
that country legal system.Another thing her brother ,sister all got american citizenship
and they all are living there but she should be treated as human being.The
tragedy of Pakistan is that it has been looted by their own people.And one of them
is General Musharaf who and his company looted this poor country.Now the people like you are singing in favoure of him,There is a day of judgement and you will be asked about all these.Life is very short and be ready for that bad day where there will be no musharaf
or no general to save you from the Azaab-E-Ellahi.
khan afghan said:
Khan afgan Ji ,
Ha ha ha .....Lagta hay Kay Main Nay Bahoot Hi Kurwi Baat Ker Di Hay .....Jo Aap Itna Ghussa Ker Rahay Ho....
Even you blamed me that I took dollars and I was involved etc etc.....
Do you know what will you get ( in Qayamet) ,if you blame wrog (Bohtan) someone ? But I swear , I forgive you from my heart ( I know you are just emotional right now )
Allah Aap Ko Aoor Aap Jaisay Logoon Ko Aaqal Shaoor Day....
Spartacu Ka Pegham Hay Logic Jahan Tuk Puhnchay
waleed1214
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
@Spartacus lol i love you brother,at least you are sticking to support musharaf at the time when every body has left him and plus i have read the book i possess the american version and i read books regularly,but i stick to the point that musharaf handed over Afia sidique and want to add here that i read it as i was reading a book of another person but i stick to my point but hats off to you.
And buddy most of the anchors are not ediots they have read this book but keep supporting musharaff i respect that!!!!!!
And buddy most of the anchors are not ediots they have read this book but keep supporting musharaff i respect that!!!!!!
Great Bhai Spartacus,at least you replied him wisely and logically, [imran] Imran Khan Zinda Baad,any how MUsharraf is not bad guy,he is patriotic and genious person,its other metter that he did many mistakes in his tenur,just because of pakistani politics and in the end he became part of it and could not resist,he is hundered times batter than both of these [nawaz] [zardari] ,and even no comparison of Musharraf with them,I wish if he could work for PTI under Great Imran Khan then he could have done for the batterment of Pakistan.....Our Future is in the hand of Allah S.T. and i hope it will be batter through Great Imran Khan [imran]
Thank you Waleed1214 and tashi2233 and others who sent me email , Even some of those emails are very hard to bear...;)
But this is democracy you can write whatever you want ...;)
My logic is very simple .....
Support or oppose with logic and not with hate or love.
But this is democracy you can write whatever you want ...;)
My logic is very simple .....
Support or oppose with logic and not with hate or love.
pakistan first
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Dear Spartacus, wonderful work, salute to u. May be now anti musharraf will blame that Dr Fauzia Siddiqui is also getting money from Musharraf and Musharraf dictated her to say this comments. Any how, as u said, people having common sense could easily differentiate between black & white. Musharraf is still hope to Pakistan,,,
Also I request Musharraf supporters to react / submit their comments with cool head and acceptable language same like what Spartacus did. There should be some difference between Musharraf supporters and Anti Musharraf so that any neutral (politically) member could easily judge from the content of the thread.
Also I request Musharraf supporters to react / submit their comments with cool head and acceptable language same like what Spartacus did. There should be some difference between Musharraf supporters and Anti Musharraf so that any neutral (politically) member could easily judge from the content of the thread.
waleed1214
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
tasihi and spartacus
I am the supporter of great Imran khan [imran] but Musharaf as genious is like saying that SALMAN RUSHDIE the greatest writer in Histroy.
As for as @spartacus if your a geniune logical person Histroy would tell you brother that how harm he has done to this country and you would stop supporting him.
Cheers mate.
I am the supporter of great Imran khan [imran] but Musharaf as genious is like saying that SALMAN RUSHDIE the greatest writer in Histroy.
As for as @spartacus if your a geniune logical person Histroy would tell you brother that how harm he has done to this country and you would stop supporting him.
Cheers mate.
waleed1214 said:
This was our one of the great cricketer Imran khan who supported Musharraf or not ?
Imran was a great crickter before he supported Mushraff and he will remain one of the greatest crickter in the history of cricket even he is no more supporting Mushrraf.
IK has alot of qualities and that was the reason that Musharraf wanted him his PM .
But some stupid agencies did not clear him and gave wrong report about him. After that Musharraf had no option but not to offer him PM seat.
From this point Imran took him as enemy ( A very wrong decision from IK , he should had think that this was not only in Musharraf,s hand)
Even IK does not support Musharaf anymore but I know Imran khan has good qualities and he can be better than alot politicians.
Even at the time he was not in politics he did alot of good things and if he comes in Parliament he will have a check on all Government even only with his one single seat.
Believe me a single IMRAN KHAN will be heavier than 100 of MNAs.
He should make some coaliation with other parties then he would get some seats this will be very good for him and for Pakistan too.
I want to see him in Parliament.
mohtram spartacus sahab...
aapki neek tamanaoon ka bohat shukriya imran khan kay liyee....mohtram yehin farak hai aap ki soch mai aur imran khan ki soch mai....jiasa kay aap nay kaha kay imran ko dosri parties kay saath collaboration kar parliment mai aa jana chahiyee jaisa kay hamary mullk ki ek jammat har dafa karti hai ...aur mera ishara mqm ki taraf hai. janab imran khan jahan tak mai un ko janta hoon aur samjha hoon woh asoolon ki siasat kartay hain........power politics nahi kartay. dekhain agar aap ko change lana hai tu aap unni logon kay sath mill kar kaisay change la saktay hain. mujhe pata hai imran nay jo rasta ikhtiyar kiya hai woh assan nahi leekin zaroori nahi k har mushkil ka assan hal hi dhoonda jayee balkay behter hall dhondna chahiyee...
aur hamain itni jaldi nahi aap ko itni jaldi kyun hai...zara sabar karain quomo ki taqdeer yun hi badal nahi jaya karti bari mehnat lagti hai bara time lagta hai.....
bake i would like to comment on your vdieo ....with all due respect i tend to disagree with u argument. u are saying that as mushraf didnt wrote in his book that he handed over the pakistanies to america , he didnt actually do that.......which is a wrong arguement to make.....what about those thousands of missing people....u see it was his responsiblity as they were kidnapped in his regime. if he is not responsible then tell me who is.....i dont want to comment of dr. afia issue cos i have my reservations on that.
aapki neek tamanaoon ka bohat shukriya imran khan kay liyee....mohtram yehin farak hai aap ki soch mai aur imran khan ki soch mai....jiasa kay aap nay kaha kay imran ko dosri parties kay saath collaboration kar parliment mai aa jana chahiyee jaisa kay hamary mullk ki ek jammat har dafa karti hai ...aur mera ishara mqm ki taraf hai. janab imran khan jahan tak mai un ko janta hoon aur samjha hoon woh asoolon ki siasat kartay hain........power politics nahi kartay. dekhain agar aap ko change lana hai tu aap unni logon kay sath mill kar kaisay change la saktay hain. mujhe pata hai imran nay jo rasta ikhtiyar kiya hai woh assan nahi leekin zaroori nahi k har mushkil ka assan hal hi dhoonda jayee balkay behter hall dhondna chahiyee...
aur hamain itni jaldi nahi aap ko itni jaldi kyun hai...zara sabar karain quomo ki taqdeer yun hi badal nahi jaya karti bari mehnat lagti hai bara time lagta hai.....
bake i would like to comment on your vdieo ....with all due respect i tend to disagree with u argument. u are saying that as mushraf didnt wrote in his book that he handed over the pakistanies to america , he didnt actually do that.......which is a wrong arguement to make.....what about those thousands of missing people....u see it was his responsiblity as they were kidnapped in his regime. if he is not responsible then tell me who is.....i dont want to comment of dr. afia issue cos i have my reservations on that.
adnanax said:
1. Politics is the Art of Possibles. ( Imran should make coalition with good people and with good parties )
2.Neither Musharraf handed over any Pakistani to USA nor he wrote in his book that he handed over Pakistani to USA.
3.Atleast ,I proved here that Aaffea Siddique,s relatives are not saying 100% truth.
adslpxp2
MPA (400+ posts)
I am just clarifying this misunderstanding about Dr Afia's Citizenship. She is a Pakistani Citizen and she never had American Citizenship or green card in her life.
And to those who put Imran and Musharraf in the same boat.
How can you be Imran Khan and Musharraf supporter at the same time. You can't be supporting good and evil at the same time, it is absolute nonsense.
And to those who put Imran and Musharraf in the same boat.
How can you be Imran Khan and Musharraf supporter at the same time. You can't be supporting good and evil at the same time, it is absolute nonsense.
Not only musharraf but all his allies and in particular Altaf / MQM who did all the heinous crimes against the nation including handing over the daughter of nation alongwith three Childs to USA (their masters).
I will advice Jury and others, to please fear from Allah and think if the same thing happens to your sister or daughter then where you will stand to support dictator Musharraf and his agent altaf.
I will advice Jury and others, to please fear from Allah and think if the same thing happens to your sister or daughter then where you will stand to support dictator Musharraf and his agent altaf.
@spartacus
1-- u are right my friend that imran khan should make alliances with good parties ...can u please name some of them.
2.. according to u , u proved that dr. aafia was not handed over by musharaf but it doesnt mean any of the other missing persons was not handed by mushraf.
3. ..accroding to u , u proved that dr. aafia's family is lying. although i dont agree but even if they are lying may be its not intentional .......they are in shock they were in shock...they have their sister in custody with her two very young and innocent kids...what u expect from them .......even if she is guilty this is not the way to treat any pakistani ....i dont any pakistani to be held by any foreign authorities. she is a paksitani and she should be convicted in pakistani courts.....thats it.
1-- u are right my friend that imran khan should make alliances with good parties ...can u please name some of them.
2.. according to u , u proved that dr. aafia was not handed over by musharaf but it doesnt mean any of the other missing persons was not handed by mushraf.
3. ..accroding to u , u proved that dr. aafia's family is lying. although i dont agree but even if they are lying may be its not intentional .......they are in shock they were in shock...they have their sister in custody with her two very young and innocent kids...what u expect from them .......even if she is guilty this is not the way to treat any pakistani ....i dont any pakistani to be held by any foreign authorities. she is a paksitani and she should be convicted in pakistani courts.....thats it.
Raaz
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
No, He did not handed over Pakistanis to USA....
But he did hand over the Whole Pakistan to USA...
It is hard to find out that who is where now? died or alive?
How will tell about the lost Pakistanis? They were lost in the times of your beloved.
The families in Pakistan are crying with pains they are suffering without them.
Who filled the guantanamo, Mush..
He handed over KSM to US, KSM was Baloch born Thats why lots of Balochi are missing.
He was such a weak person that raided people in mosque with phosporous bombs.
And you are so stuban that you looks crazy , keep on reading his book,like holy book Named like dictator, In the line of fire...... We hope he and his supporters will go ,
In The Hell of Fire"
But he did hand over the Whole Pakistan to USA...
It is hard to find out that who is where now? died or alive?
How will tell about the lost Pakistanis? They were lost in the times of your beloved.
The families in Pakistan are crying with pains they are suffering without them.
Who filled the guantanamo, Mush..
He handed over KSM to US, KSM was Baloch born Thats why lots of Balochi are missing.
He was such a weak person that raided people in mosque with phosporous bombs.
And you are so stuban that you looks crazy , keep on reading his book,like holy book Named like dictator, In the line of fire...... We hope he and his supporters will go ,
In The Hell of Fire"
Zaidi Qasim
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
I do not want to waste my time in this idiotic discussion about Musharraf in this forum. However, since some of the die hard workers of MQM trying their best to defend a dictator who stole the country and sold it to USA for some meger funds.I don not know what is the level of our intellectual , but I am more upset of this community of readers and writers who have some sort of common sense and know how to explore the wide range of information available on line, but refuse to do so.I am also surprised by the way of some who in this age and time come up with excuses to defend a dictator. Musharraf was a dictator.Lets have no doubt about it. He not only ruined my country but handed our sovereignty and respect to American to fill the accounts of some of his closest friends in army.He had no legitimacy what so ever. He tried to gain the milage out of a bogus referundum and failed miserably.He admitted himself that it was a shallow referundum and felt sorry for it.The party which took most of the benefits in Musharraf's era is MQM and Q league.The party which is still taking the advantage of this unfortunate nation of Pakistan is still MQM by staying in the power corridors and yet pulling the right strings at the right time.They are the defender of Musharraf at one hand and also the nominators of Zardari on the other.Their gang of mafia defended Musharraf in every nock of this country and still defending this dictator when he is sitting in England drinking liquor. They are still defending it knowing well that he was responsible for forcing Zardi on us by striking the deal with his Masters and PPP.He got scott free in a country he ruined and turned it in to rubbles due to his policies of short sightness. What you expect from a dictator?. Like the rest of other dictators , he is sitting pretty outside the country and the poor people of Pakistan paying the price of his past policies with their blood. Yet, some of the nadaans in this forum got their tape stuck to one position only. Did he sell Pakistanis to Americans or not ? Of course, he did.There is no doubt in any thinking mind that he could not stand up to the Americans from the day one when he handed the country on one phone call to Collin Powel.You think he could say no to Americans after that ? They were roaming around in Pakistan and picking up the people left right and centre.The two main air stips ( al shamsi is one of them) were handed to the Americans during his time and the Officers of the PAF were not even allowed to enter in to these Air strips... You think he would care ? And here on this forum one person vigriously defending him on a technical point that he didn't handed any pakistani national to Americans... What a joker we have on our hands.
adslpxp2
MPA (400+ posts)
!!!The PROOF !!!
To arse lickers of Musharraf and Altaf Kalia.
Today, I had to go through 383 pages of "In the Line of Fire" which I call it a master piece of total Bull-crap. Its like reading an autobiography of a "whore".
I have copied the passage below from Chapter 23 "MANHUNT" on page 237 of his book.
Since shortly after 9/11, when many members of al Qaeda fled W_/ Afghanistan and crossed the border into Pakistan, we have played cat and mouse with them. The biggest of them all, Osama bin Laden, is still at large at the time of this writing, but we have caught many, many others. Some are known to the world, some are not. We have captured 689 and handed over 369 to the United States. We have earned boun-ties totaling millions of dollars. Those who habitually accuse us of "not doing enough" in the war on terror should simply ask the CIA how much prize money it has paid to the government of Pakistan. Here, I will tell the stories of just a few of the most significant man-hunts..........continued..
One of the most interesting comments that Musharraf makes in the book seems to have gone unnoticed. He calls Maulana Masood Azhar as a fake maulana. "When he was released by India as part of the bargain for their hijacked plane... he (Azhar) feared that we would hand him back to India," he claims in his book.
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Questions to ponder upon..
1- What is the issue of missing persons in Pakistan?
2- Who was in power when these people disappeared in Pakistan
3- Why did Musharraf dismiss the Supreme court judges when his government was asked to produce list of missing persons and their whereabouts.
Interesting clip from Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUIFOqDYLdM"
To arse lickers of Musharraf and Altaf Kalia.
Today, I had to go through 383 pages of "In the Line of Fire" which I call it a master piece of total Bull-crap. Its like reading an autobiography of a "whore".
I have copied the passage below from Chapter 23 "MANHUNT" on page 237 of his book.
Since shortly after 9/11, when many members of al Qaeda fled W_/ Afghanistan and crossed the border into Pakistan, we have played cat and mouse with them. The biggest of them all, Osama bin Laden, is still at large at the time of this writing, but we have caught many, many others. Some are known to the world, some are not. We have captured 689 and handed over 369 to the United States. We have earned boun-ties totaling millions of dollars. Those who habitually accuse us of "not doing enough" in the war on terror should simply ask the CIA how much prize money it has paid to the government of Pakistan. Here, I will tell the stories of just a few of the most significant man-hunts..........continued..
One of the most interesting comments that Musharraf makes in the book seems to have gone unnoticed. He calls Maulana Masood Azhar as a fake maulana. "When he was released by India as part of the bargain for their hijacked plane... he (Azhar) feared that we would hand him back to India," he claims in his book.
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Questions to ponder upon..
1- What is the issue of missing persons in Pakistan?
2- Who was in power when these people disappeared in Pakistan
3- Why did Musharraf dismiss the Supreme court judges when his government was asked to produce list of missing persons and their whereabouts.
Interesting clip from Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUIFOqDYLdM"
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Guest
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propaganda campaign against musharraf will only make him more popular inshAllah!
this is my iman and faith that Musharraf will be remembered one day as the greatest president of the world!!!
love you musharraf!
this is my iman and faith that Musharraf will be remembered one day as the greatest president of the world!!!
love you musharraf!
Dera adslpxp2,
As we know from Musharraf,s book that he had captured 689 and handed over 369 to the United States.
Did you ever think why did he hand over only 369 out of 689 ?
Because the rest were Pakistanis and that is why he said to USA I am not giving Pakistanis to you .
The best Example I can give you the killer of Danial Perl , who is a pakistani and USA demanded him but Mushraff refused.( Only because he was/is a Pakistani )
Even those 369 , at first he asked their own country that they should take them when they refused then he handed over to USA.
Some correction ....
Omar Sheikh is even a British national born to Pakistani parents in London on December 23, 1973
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... 650222.ece
As we know from Musharraf,s book that he had captured 689 and handed over 369 to the United States.
Did you ever think why did he hand over only 369 out of 689 ?
Because the rest were Pakistanis and that is why he said to USA I am not giving Pakistanis to you .
The best Example I can give you the killer of Danial Perl , who is a pakistani and USA demanded him but Mushraff refused.( Only because he was/is a Pakistani )
Even those 369 , at first he asked their own country that they should take them when they refused then he handed over to USA.
Some correction ....
Omar Sheikh is even a British national born to Pakistani parents in London on December 23, 1973
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... 650222.ece
