If 'Establishment' and Military of Pakistan control Pakistan

Ratan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Establishment' and Military of Pakistan control Pakistan?
It was true till 2018. But ever since the inception of Imran Khan in power things have changed dramatically.
Imran Khan can not be controlled by anybody simply because of the fact that by nature he is extremely independent & maverick, never allows any pressure to change his thinking, he does what he thinks is right.
Best example: His reply to Trump's abusive anti-Pakistan tweet in the same manner.
Handling the covid crisis against all advice & warnings.
Warning to Saudi Arabia & OIC for not doing enough for Kashmir.
Absolutely not to the US base in Pakistan, Exposing Modi internationally. Visit Russia during an explosive international crisis.
Never giving NRO to Zardari & Noora.
All these & other decisions have been taken by him against all odds.
But we must say he got full support from COAS who is not only by heart a democratic man but an equally brilliant strategist.
The bottom line is Imran Khan is the CEO of Pakistan & he rightfully exercises his power you like it or not.
And this is happening first time in Pakistan.
 

alis

MPA (400+ posts)
i would have believed you if khan as per his promises brought change in institutions, not a single revamped institute, PTV ku he theek kr daita, Islamabad police ku he theek kr daiata, these are small institutes

he just doesn't have ability, the only ability he has is making big tall claims, showing dreamy world to his followers,
I hate this retarded argument that he promised... of course, he promised because our nation believes in bullshit promises and don't vote for real-deal issues, but what is really important is that he is trying to get things moving....if you understood the complexity of the system and how things really work in the government's 430 departments you would not be saying this but the problem is that most Pakistanis don't realize that Imran khan can not even fire a class 4 guy for not doing his job, he will go to court and be back with the pay in absence, this is your Pakistan. Wherever Imran khan takes a step, there is someone's tail beneath it.
 

AWAITED

Senator (1k+ posts)
If 'Establishment' and Military of Pakistan control Pakistan, removal of Imran Khan will be the biggest betrayal of this country by Army generals. All political bullshit aside, Khan has given a lifeline to this country and if we fail to keep him in power, I don't think our country can ever think of being a prosperous land.
Anyone who is just a bit honest and sensible can recognize that PDM is a bunch of crooks and if they are allowed to out-manoeuvre Imran khan, we don't deserve to be a nation, I hope we could just get it over with and balkanize it to more suitable pieces.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1496530759825375234
 

Tit4Tat

Minister (2k+ posts)
I hate this retarded argument that he promised... of course, he promised because our nation believes in bullshit promises and don't vote for real-deal issues, but what is really important is that he is trying to get things moving....if you understood the complexity of the system and how things really work in the government's 430 departments you would not be saying this but the problem is that most Pakistanis don't realize that Imran khan can not even fire a class 4 guy for not doing his job, he will go to court and be back with the pay in absence, this is your Pakistan. Wherever Imran khan takes a step, there is someone's tail beneath it.

then he should fuck off
 

samisam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
کونسا دور تھا جب اسٹبلشمنٹ نے پاکستان کی حکومت کو کنڑول نہیں کیا یا حکومت میں حصہ دار نہیں رہے
شاید جہانگیر کرامت والے دور میں جب نواز شریف بٹ نے اسے کان سے پکڑ کر کسی کتے والی کرکے نکال دیا تھا اس نے امرتسر رام گلی کے چکلے کے شہنشاہ سلامت کی مرضی کے خلاف قومی سلامتی کونسل بنانے کی تجویز دی تھی جو شہنشاہ اور اسکے امریکہ اور انڈیا کی مرضی کے خلاف تھی اس لئے جہانگیر کرامت کو شہنشاہ معظم نے کان پکڑ کر نکال دیا یہ وہی نا اہل جہانگیر کرامت تھا جس کے دور میں سپریم کورٹ آف پاکستان پر نوازشریف بٹ اور اس کے غنڈوں نے حملہ کیا تھا اور شریف سندھی چیف جسٹس کو کمرہ لاک کرکے جان بچانی پڑی تھی جہانگیر کرامت سے اپنے آئینی حق کے تحت سپریم کورٹ آف پاکستان سے آرمی کی مدد مانگی تاکہ سپریم کورٹ پر ہونے والا حملہ روکا جاسکے مگر جہانگیر کرامت نے ملک سے وفاداری کی بجائے نواز شریف بٹ کے پالتو کتے کا کردار ادا کرکے سپریم کورٹ پر حملہ بھی ہونے دیا اور چیف جسٹس کو ہٹانے میں بھی نواز شریف بٹ کاسہولت کار بنا رہا اور پھر اسی کرپٹ نواز شریف بٹ نے جس کے پالتو کتے کا کردار جہانگیر کرامت نے ادا کرکے اس ملک سے غداری کی اور سپریم کورٹ کے آئینی مطالبے کو نہ ماننے کی حرام زدگی کی۔ اسی نواز شریف نے اسے کان سے پکڑ کر آوارہ کتے کی طرح نکال دیا اور ہڈی کے طور پر کسی یورپی ملک کا سفیر بنا دیا تو جو جو بھی اس ملک سے غداری حراُ م زدگی اور گشتی پن کرتا ہے چاہے جج کو یا جرنیل یا کوئی لیڈر یا کوئی اور اس نے تو اپنے انجام کو پہنچنا ہی ہوتا ہے اور انشا اللہ پہنچتے رہیں گے ملک انشا اللہ قائم اور دائم رہے گا
 

shujauddin

Minister (2k+ posts)
Zulfiqar: You spoke my heart. I endorse each and every word written by you.
I'm a big time Pro Pakistan Armed Forces person BUT if any corrupt general from the lot tries to reverse the clock and plot to overthrow Imran Khan then YES.... this country does have the right to exist in its present form.
Enough is enough.
Adam the writing is on the wall. Jahangir Tareen group and choudhary bradaraan are basically Army's men. They might vote against PTI in the Vote of no confidence movement.
Why? because PRO West/Pro American Pakistani Military Generals do not like Imran's anti America Policy.
 

Dr Adam

President (40k+ posts)
Adam the writing is on the wall. Jahangir Tareen group and choudhary bradaraan are basically Army's men. They might vote against PTI in the Vote of no confidence movement.
Why? because PRO West/Pro American Pakistani Military Generals do not like Imran's anti America Policy.
Shuja: I am very sure that I know the working of Pak Armed Forces better than you do.
If the COAS stands behind the incumbent government then nothing else matters.
End of the discussion.
Bye, bye.
 

samisam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Zulfiqar: You spoke my heart. I endorse each and every word written by you.
I'm a big time Pro Pakistan Armed Forces person BUT if any corrupt general from the lot tries to reverse the clock and plot to overthrow Imran Khan then YES.... this country does have the right to exist in its present form.
Enough is enough.
ایسا جرنیل جرنیل نہیں نطفہ حرام اور خنزیر النسل ہی ہوسکتا ہے جو ۔۔۔زادہ کرپٹ سزا یا فتہ نطفہ حراموں کو لانے کی ملک دشمنی اور حرام زدگی کرے پھر دمادم مست قلندر ہوگا ایسے نطفہ حرام جرنیل کو تو شاید ممتاز قادری ہی ٹکر جائے عوام تو بعد کی بات ہے۔ کیونکہ ملک دشمنی سے بڑی حرام زدگی کوئی نہیں ابھی کچھ عرصہ پہلے ایک بریگیڈیئر کو سزائے موت اور ایک لفٹیننٹ جنرل کو بھی سزا ہوئی ہے ملک دشمنی کی پھر تو ایسا جرنیل بھی ملک دشمن ہی ہوگا اور سزائے موت کا مستحق
 

samisam

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Most probably Nawaz will be next PM of UK.
وہ ۔۔۔زادہ تو اب میانی صاحب کا پرائم منسٹر بننے کی تیاری میں ہے نہ اب جنرل ضیا ہے نہ جیلانی نہ کیانی نہ کرامت جہانگیر تو پھر کیسے بنے گا کون دلائے گا دو تہائی اکثریت
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
if overseas Pakistanis are given their right and EVM is used, IK will dominate. I am not afraid of his popularity, if he is let to complete his term, no power in Pakistan will be able to remove him from power, the thing is that it might be the reason they want to get rid of him right now.
Khan won last elections without EVM and should not complain about EVM. Once Khan is lost you can add 5000 average vote to each constituency from abroad. There will not any close competition therefore foreign votes are irrelevant even if we assume that all will go to PTI.
 

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