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[tz00007]

wrong information u got there! every living thing is created from water, not with mud

check the verses.. at one piont its water...and clay is also mentioned... there are all ingredients..


u point out this mistake (maybe) but did u get my point??

 

[tz00007]

lolz am not a journalist (khuda na kare)... u sed that evolution is "illogical"... or against logic... so tell me how come its against logic????/ its one of the basics of science..

and its been proven over and over again...do u know the human DNA?? even the DNA shows that All living organisms share some part of common DNA.. our dna is 99.6% common with apes.. and even some part of our DNA we share with bacteria and plankton. which proves evolution as well...

who told you or how do you perceive that i think against the laws of nature? all the divine books, the lives of prophets and each and every thing that is related to any religion is according to the laws of nature. 'IQRA' is the knowledge of laws of nature. and science is the way to find out that how do these laws work.
if you r a professional journalist,then your first thinking is to reject the point of view presented by others. cz every pakistani journalist is a master in all fields.

 

[imran_hosein_fan]

What seems to be the issue here? Is it that age old, "My Quran says this. But Science says that." ? :P The difference is pretty obvious, Science says, "Come and Prove me wrong. I welcome it." Islam Says, "How DARE You even THINK that I am wrong! YAAAAAAAARRRRRR! Break out the AK-47! We will have this Blasphemers' head!" :P

Allah says in the Quran "Prove me wrong", what the science throughout the history has always changed statements

 

[imran_hosein_fan]

check the verses.. at one piont its water...and clay is also mentioned... there are all ingredients..


u point out this mistake (maybe) but did u get my point??

here is my point, i guess u missed it

human evolution never took place! the evolution of wild animals (mammals and insects) always changes, as they need to adopt the conditions, if they wont adopt the climatic conditions they will die!

 

[lurker]

Allah says in the Quran "Prove me wrong", what the science throughout the history has always changed statements

That's how science works. It loves people to better it. This is science's greatest strength over any religion. It's not a disadvantage. Except for Hinduism that has an enormous ability to assimilate other religion and philosophies. An example is how they made Buddha into a God. That is an assimilation of another faith. You never know someday some hindus may incorporate Islamic personalities or even several prophets into their religion. You see, all religion are themselves evolving.

 

[makdaone]

Quran is right.. but ur understanding is very limited.. see when ur little mind sees clay and water..it immediately things human is created like a skulpture from mud and then suddenly it became alive.. thats coz u have no knowledge of science..

every living thing is created from water and clay.. those are the ingredients.. Allah never said in Quran how "exactly" but gave u hints... its not a book science..its a book of "signs".. and Allah also said in Quran that there are signs here for those who "understand"..and clearly u dont understand..

so plz do us a favour and dont talk...coz ppl r gonna make fun of Islam coz of ur little thinking...

Please visit your ancestor in zoo.

 

[Sadia Hashmi]

here is my point, i guess u missed it

human evolution never took place! the evolution of wild animals (mammals and insects) always changes, as they need to adopt the conditions, if they wont adopt the climatic conditions they will die!

u r very right. fr instance appendix was functional wen human being was wild. wen man start to eat cooked food it became just a useless pouch. in some animals it is still functional, definitely climatic changes work. this is evolution. nictitating membrane has stopped working in human body but is working in birds and reptiles now. so the evolution is a change according to requirements. but apes to human is not evolution,it is a transformation that cant happened.

 

[Sadia Hashmi]

lolz am not a journalist (khuda na kare)... u sed that evolution is "illogical"... or against logic... so tell me how come its against logic????/ its one of the basics of science..

and its been proven over and over again...do u know the human DNA?? even the DNA shows that All living organisms share some part of common DNA.. our dna is 99.6% common with apes.. and even some part of our DNA we share with bacteria and plankton. which proves evolution as well...

again a long debate......no way
but i must share some points though i have lack of knowledge cz such wrong syllogism is not accepted.
1) man is created on ahsan-e-taqweem. here word creation is used not evolution.(Quran)
2)science is so advanced but no laboratory can create a single cell,,,,,so the POWER who can create single cell can also create human being. so is the case wen apes can b produced then y not human?
3) evolution theory says that some apes gradually became humans,,,and the remaining poor creature? ( the remaining apes must go on strike)
4)48 cromosomes in apes and 46 in human being,,,if u hv calculations about DNA then u do know well that such minor change is not mere minor.

 

[tz00007]

hahaha so creation means create from nothing??? everything follow a "process".. so does the creation of living organisms.. the name evolution is from humans.. the point u ppl dont understand is Quran is not a book of science.. u wont find details..but its a book if "signs"...ull get signs..n those signs are for ppl who think...ur thinking is that Allah made mud sculpture n made it into human becoz that wat ur imagination can take u... while my imagination starts from sub atomic particles and leading through evolution to creation of this universe and organic life form...

and for ur information, science has created living cells.. u lagging behind u need to study...

and ur 3rd point shows u have no knowledge about evolution at all... i would suggest u read a book or two about it...and then we ll be in a good position to talk about it.. and also chromosomes and gene code are different thing... n i never sed they r minor changes.. but in comparison with the whole gene code..the changes are minor.. u share 99.6% of gene with a monkey... thats a fact..

again a long debate......no way
but i must share some points though i have lack of knowledge cz such wrong syllogism is not accepted.
1) man is created on ahsan-e-taqweem. here word creation is used not evolution.(Quran)
2)science is so advanced but no laboratory can create a single cell,,,,,so the POWER who can create single cell can also create human being. so is the case wen apes can b produced then y not human?
3) evolution theory says that some apes gradually became humans,,,and the remaining poor creature? ( the remaining apes must go on strike)
4)48 cromosomes in apes and 46 in human being,,,if u hv calculations about DNA then u do know well that such minor change is not mere minor.

 

[tz00007]

Please visit your ancestor in zoo.

hahah abey jahil mullah tuje kya pata science kya hay aur religion kya hay... ja k halwey kha aur naatein parh...

 

[tz00007]

here is my point, i guess u missed it

human evolution never took place! the evolution of wild animals (mammals and insects) always changes, as they need to adopt the conditions, if they wont adopt the climatic conditions they will die!

how can u prove human evolution never took place??? or genetic code is the biggest proof of it.. why we share 99.6% of genetic code with an ape? and similarly all living things share some level of genetic code.. also there have been remains found of ancient humans.. shown less evolved

2ndly evolution is very very slow process.. it happens in thundreds of thousands of years...

another thing... intelligence slows down evolution even more... in cold areas animals would grow thick fur but humans are intelligent and would wear warm clothes, hence never evolved in such a way..

 

[Rommel]

how can u prove human evolution never took place??? or genetic code is the biggest proof of it.. why we share 99.6% of genetic code with an ape? and similarly all living things share some level of genetic code.. also there have been remains found of ancient humans.. shown less evolved

2ndly evolution is very very slow process.. it happens in thundreds of thousands of years...

another thing... intelligence slows down evolution even more... in cold areas animals would grow thick fur but humans are intelligent and would wear warm clothes, hence never evolved in such a way..

I am impressed.
You really have evolved into a human completely.

 

[tz00007]

I am impressed.
You really have evolved into a human completely.

oh someone is trying to be funny.. well the funny part is that ur jahil and know nothing.. its the same as when galelio sed earth is round..n everyone made fun of him... u saying watever doznt change the fact that...

one thing i noticed.. majority of pakistanis are parhay likhay jahil.. hahaha

guess what, there is a funny article abt malala..and some idiot like u posted it on facebook with pictures thinking its serious article..hahahaha

so yea i have evolved..but most ppl like u are still monkeys... or atleast mentally they r monkeys.. lol

 

[makdaone]

hahah abey jahil mullah tuje kya pata science kya hay aur religion kya hay... ja k halwey kha aur naatein parh...

Another Freshy off the boat [hilar]

 

[Sadia Hashmi]

hahaha so creation means create from nothing??? everything follow a "process".. so does the creation of living organisms.. the name evolution is from humans.. the point u ppl dont understand is Quran is not a book of science.. u wont find details..but its a book if "signs"...ull get signs..n those signs are for ppl who think...ur thinking is that Allah made mud sculpture n made it into human becoz that wat ur imagination can take u... while my imagination starts from sub atomic particles and leading through evolution to creation of this universe and organic life form...

and for ur information, science has created living cells.. u lagging behind u need to study...

and ur 3rd point shows u have no knowledge about evolution at all... i would suggest u read a book or two about it...and then we ll be in a good position to talk about it.. and also chromosomes and gene code are different thing... n i never sed they r minor changes.. but in comparison with the whole gene code..the changes are minor.. u share 99.6% of gene with a monkey... thats a fact..

zoology is not my subject and i said i hv a little knowledge. u r a man of science its ok but what would u say wen science fails and only divine guidance works? every thing follows laws of nature so there is also a possibility that after a few years a different theory of evolution get the attention. u hav a gud command on the topic but u r missing some points.
all the divine books were the gifts of ALMIGHTY to the people of that ages. these are not books of sciences but guide according to the laws of nature.
it was claimed that a living cell created,,but it is nt right. if u hv more information u can share.
the ppl of advance scientific society must reject their religious theorem that the birth of jesus was without father cz this is against the laws of nature and can never happened but they believe.

 

[tz00007]

we dont have perfect knowledge.. only Allah has that knowledge.. and our science is yet to have breakthroughs...we r still in infancy.. but there are few things which are well established... like evolution..

my point is.. we muslims due to lack of knowledge first directly reject things..becoz of our insecurity and lack of understanding.. and then we r embarrassed infront of all the world... when loud speaker was invented..u know all the mullahs said its haram... now they use it the most.. when camera was invented, they said picture is haram, now they dont mind photo sessions.. when tv was invented, they said its haram and i remember in my village a mullah said in friday prayer that the antenna on the ppl's house tops is actually a "flag of shaitan".. lolz.. now muslim preachers use TV to spread Islam..

the thing is.. if science discovers something, that initially sound against religion, might not actually be against religion.. it might be becoz of our lack of understanding...

Quran is a book of Allah and is full of knowledge...Allah says there are signs for ppl who ponder and understand.. still our understanding of the QUran is not enough.. it has hidden treasures.. which we dont understand.. do u know dr abdus salam got his idea of grand unified theory from Quran? for which he got nobel prize...it just depends on how u look at things..

n yea scientists may be against religion, becoz they were demoralized and banned by churches.. doznt mean science stands against religion.. its up to us to figure it out..

zoology is not my subject and i said i hv a little knowledge. u r a man of science its ok but what would u say wen science fails and only divine guidance works? every thing follows laws of nature so there is also a possibility that after a few years a different theory of evolution get the attention. u hav a gud command on the topic but u r missing some points.
all the divine books were the gifts of ALMIGHTY to the people of that ages. these are not books of sciences but guide according to the laws of nature.
it was claimed that a living cell created,,but it is nt right. if u hv more information u can share.
the ppl of advance scientific society must reject their religious theorem that the birth of jesus was without father cz this is against the laws of nature and can never happened but they believe.

 

[lurker]

the ppl of advance scientific society must reject their religious theorem that the birth of jesus was without father cz this is against the laws of nature and can never happened but they believe.

Believing is one thing. Knowing is another. You can believe Superman exists. Knowing that he exists is a different ball game.

Scientifically there is no way Jesus christ can be born without a father. The scientific term is parthenogenesis. This is in the realms of possibility. However only a Female child can result from this. Because a Woman only has an XX chromosome. The "Y" comes from the man.