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makdaone

Councller (250+ posts)
Praise be to Allaah.
This view is not correct, and the evidence for that is that Allaah has described in the Qur’aan the stages of the creation of Adam. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, the likeness of ‘Eesa (Jesus) before Allaah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: ‘Be!’ — and he was”
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:59]
This dust was moistened until it became sticky mud or clay that stuck to the hands. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth)”
[al-Mu’minoon 23:12]
“Verily, We created them of a sticky clay”
[al-Saaffaat 37:12]
Then it became dried (sounding) clay of altered mud. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And indeed, We created man from dried (sounding) clay of altered mud”
[al-Hijr 15:26]

Then when it dried it became sounding clay like the clay of pottery. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“He created man (Adam) from sounding clay like the clay of pottery”
[al-Rahmaan 55:14]
Then Allaah moulded it into the form that He wanted and breathed into him (his) soul created by Him. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“(Remember) when your Lord said to the angels: ‘Truly, I am going to create man from clay’.
So when I have fashioned him and breathed into him (his) soul created by Me, then you fall down prostrate to him”
[Saad 38:71-72]
These are the stages through which the creation of Adam passed according to the Qur’aan. As for the stages of creation which the progeny of Adam pass through, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth).
Thereafter We made him (the offspring of Adam) as a Nutfah (mixed drops of the male and female sexual discharge and lodged it) in a safe lodging (womb of the woman).
Then We made the Nutfah into a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood), then We made the clot into a little lump of flesh, then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it forth as another creation. So Blessed is Allaah, the Best of creators”
[al-Mu’minoon 23:12-14]
With regard to the wife of Adam – Hawwa’ (Eve) – Allaah tells us that He created her from him, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):
“O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam), and from him (Adam) He created his wife [Hawwa (Eve)], and from them both He created many men and women”
[al-Nisa’ 4:1]
 

hikmat

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Yes it could be Explained by Islamic Point of view. If we believe Hazrat ADM and Hazrat Hawwa were the first two living cells created by GOd and then God created every living being through evolution. Indeed Science is still silent about the first living cell and how it came to being...

I saw a 330 million years old tree trunk in the museum of Natural history. Dinosaurs roamed the world between 250 to 50 millions years ago. Humans have been known to exist since 0.2 million years. You do the math !



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hikmat

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mjy pta hy k mera sawal logic k khilaf hy, or evolution theory b logiic k khilaf hy.

It is very much logical my dear - The only thing that deserves attention is how to link it up with what Quran says about it.

e.g For 1400 years 'Alaq' in the Quran was translated as 'conjealed blood'. Alaq as you may have guessed has an Urdu counterpart 'Muaaliq' which we use daily. Now that the process of human birth is no mystery everyone knows that the baby is 'hanging' like a fruit in the mothers' womb. Just imagine how science taught us to interpret Quran correctly !
 
mjy pta hy k mera sawal logic k khilaf hy, or evolution theory b logiic k khilaf hy.

Don't try to get scientific knowledge out of religion.
There are 1000 of mistakes in every religious book. Once earth
Was assumed to be flat, all religion said: see here is it we say earth is flat. Bla.bla.


Lately earth was found to be round. Again religious scholars manipulated
The versus.
Just do a wikipedia search on scientific mistakes in Quran, bible.

But the zest of discussions is to keep religion miles away from
Science.
 

Sadia Hashmi

Senator (1k+ posts)

It is very much logical my dear - The only thing that deserves attention is how to link it up with what Quran says about it.

e.g For 1400 years 'Alaq' in the Quran was translated as 'conjealed blood'. Alaq as you may have guessed has an Urdu counterpart 'Muaaliq' which we use daily. Now that the process of human birth is no mystery everyone knows that the baby is 'hanging' like a fruit in the mothers' womb. Just imagine how science taught us to interpret Quran correctly !

umm,,,u r right wen u translate Alaq, but it is not about evolution, it is about creation.
ok, i have a question.
if aliens can come from other planets on earth then y not human beings?
 

Sadia Hashmi

Senator (1k+ posts)
Don't try to get scientific knowledge out of religion.
There are 1000 of mistakes in every religious book. Once earth
Was assumed to be flat, all religion said: see here is it we say earth is flat. Bla.bla.


Lately earth was found to be round. Again religious scholars manipulated
The versus.
Just do a wikipedia search on scientific mistakes in Quran, bible.

But the zest of discussions is to keep religion miles away from
Science.

in which book of hinduism,bible,quran it is stated that earth is flat? every scholar has his own view, whether he is religious or scientific minded.
 
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in which book of hinduism,bible,quran it is stated that earth is flat?

All said the same. You seem to be well verse in using internet. Just do google search & you will find out.

Did any religion invent any cure to any disease;) Darwin was a religious christian and most of the scientific community in those era were christian but it didn't stop them from researching on evolutionary theory. Now evolution is not a theory, its law. You should watch those videos on evolution of homosapiens.

We should have belief in supreme creator/god, but using man made religion to justify those beliefs is farce ;)
 

Sadia Hashmi

Senator (1k+ posts)
All said the same. You seem to be well verse in using internet. Just do google search & you will find out.

Did any religion invent any cure to any disease;) Darwin was a religious christian and most of the scientific community in those era were christian but it didn't stop them from researching on evolutionary theory. Now evolution is not a theory, its law. You should watch those videos on evolution of homosapiens.

We should have belief in supreme creator/god, but using man made religion to justify those beliefs is farce ;)

ok i will take a lecture but i m still of the view that such transformation is not possible.
 

hikmat

Banned
umm,,,u r right wen u translate Alaq, but it is not about evolution, it is about creation.
ok, i have a question.
if aliens can come from other planets on earth then y not human beings?


When we look around and by looking around I mean acquire knowledge and do research we find that after big bang (or even earlier) God does very little intervention in the Physical world. It is made that way otherwise there would be no point in creating this world and unnecessary to give humans the supercomputer of a brain. I am not suggesting I know the exact truth; what I am pleading is not to block out your brain and keep it open to truth. The example above was meant to reinforce this point of view.

I don't want to sound rude but your question is totally irrelevant. When did aliens tour the Earth and what difference would it make to this discussion if humans landed on another planet with life (The chances of which are minimal).
 

hikmat

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All said the same. You seem to be well verse in using internet. Just do google search & you will find out.

Did any religion invent any cure to any disease;) Darwin was a religious christian and most of the scientific community in those era were christian but it didn't stop them from researching on evolutionary theory. Now evolution is not a theory, its law. You should watch those videos on evolution of homosapiens.

We should have belief in supreme creator/god, but using man made religion to justify those beliefs is farce ;)

Are you in your right senses. What did God give you the brain for - Trolling aimlessly on the internet ?
Religion teaches you morals and that the deeds you do in this world don't just go away when you die. There is another world after death.
 
ok i will take a lecture but i m still of the view that such transformation is not possible.

In last 30000 years, more than 1500 genes of humane have changed. Transformation happened over millions of years. The 1st cellular organism was formed 2-3 billion years ago. And the 1st mammal was a rat kind of species which evolved around 300 million years ago. We share many genes with fish, rats, monkey.

Just watch those 3 videos and you will understand it better ;)
 

Sadia Hashmi

Senator (1k+ posts)
When we look around and by looking around I mean acquire knowledge and do research we find that after big bang (or even earlier) God does very little intervention in the Physical world. It is made that way otherwise there would be no point in creating this world and unnecessary to give humans the supercomputer of a brain. I am not suggesting I know the exact truth; what I am pleading is not to block out your brain and keep it open to truth. The example above was meant to reinforce this point of view.

I don't want to sound rude but your question is totally irrelevant. When did aliens tour the Earth and what difference would it make to this discussion if humans landed on another planet with life (The chances of which are minimal).

mein ap k isi jawab ka intezar kar rahe the,,,, aap visit karo kahen ka or wahan rehna shoro kar do, ho skta hy na? .... aliens ny b ye kea ho ga or phir human being ban gay.

well, universe can give u the answer of every question,,,,,,just wait,,,
 

macbeth

Minister (2k+ posts)
Are you in your right senses. What did God give you the brain for - Trolling aimlessly on the internet ?
Religion teaches you morals and that the deeds you do in this world don't just go away when you die. There is another world after death.

حکیم صاحب انسان اور بندر کی پھکی ایک ھی بھاو بیچنی شروع کر دی
 
Are you in your right senses. What did God give you the brain for - Trolling aimlessly on the internet ?
Religion teaches you morals and that the deeds you do in this world don't just go away when you die. There is another world after death.


Ethics, morals didn't come from religion. Did you read about Greeks(aristotle, plato), Indian philosophers(yogi)? All the humane religions plagiarized those ideas. If you have doubts, the read about the culture in china, japan. So what about life after death experience for plants, animals. Don't you consider them life?
 

hikmat

Banned
Ethics, morals didn't come from religion. Did you read about Greeks(aristotle, plato), Indian philosophers(yogi)? All the humane religions plagiarized those ideas. If you have doubts, the read about the culture in china, japan. So what about life after death experience for plants, animals. Don't you consider them life?

Good man. Yes I did read the great Greek triumvirate. I can't write a book on this forum therefore I will just ask you if you have read them. If not our discussion here would be meaningless. The bold lines show you don't know what you are talking about.
 

hikmat

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mein ap k isi jawab ka intezar kar rahe the,,,, aap visit karo kahen ka or wahan rehna shoro kar do, ho skta hy na? .... aliens ny b ye kea ho ga or phir human being ban gay.

well, universe can give u the answer of every question,,,,,,just wait,,,

So you are suggesting that humans were transported from elsewhere ?
Yes we could/should have considered this possibility but what if there is evidence that they originated on this planet. And to your last part Universe/time does not throw at you all the answers - you have got to search for them yourselves. Here I am talking about the finite time, not the infinite continuum.
 

hikmat

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حکیم صاحب انسان اور بندر کی پھکی ایک ھی بھاو بیچنی شروع کر دی

​یار تم ہی کچھ مدد کرو. دو مختلف ال خیال لوگوں سے بحث کرنا کشتہ کٹائی سے بھی مشکل لگ رہا ہے
 

Sadia Hashmi

Senator (1k+ posts)
So you are suggesting that humans were transported from elsewhere ?
Yes we could/should have considered this possibility but what if there is evidence that they originated on this planet. And to your last part Universe/time does not throw at you all the answers - you have got to search for them yourselves. Here I am talking about the finite time, not the infinite continuum.

we get the answer wen we put question,,, simlpy means wen we go fr research.

yes, i ws transported from jannat so i will go again there,,,, dont know about other human beings.
 

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