freshnkool
Minister (2k+ posts)
what i have written is so clear that i am fan of dr. sahib but i can understand what do you mean? can you clarify it
Hamid Mir Accuses Dr. Shahid Masood in his Column Today.
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what i have written is so clear that i am fan of dr. sahib but i can understand what do you mean? can you clarify it
I just coudn't see the connection between your sensible writings on here and the Dr's antics - thats all ;-)
freshnkool
Minister (2k+ posts)
hahaha, well thanks i would take it in positive way. well my liking for dr. shahid does not mean i like his everything and if i dislike someone does not mean i dislike their everything. i am too old to see things just in white & black. i try to be fair if someone says or does something good i respect them (even if i dont like that person) but if even if my family member says or does something bad i do not stand by their side. same way talat hussian, javed choudhry, kashif abbasi, hamid mir and dr. shahid, rauf klasra, hassan nisar. i like them in general and have good view of them ( because in my view they are good people, i can be wrong for sure) but that does not mean i endorse their every word or everything they do. (on somethings i agree with them and sometimes i dont)
I hear you and agree with what you say - basically not get into personality worship and take things on their merit rather than who is saying them. I sometime I listen to him too but I can't stand his antics which show through his personality - most of it is not substance rather self promotion and sensationalizing the topics....anyway, I totally respect your choices :-)
Though I have one thing to say - I believe that in the list you mentioned below - Dr. SM is the odd man out - A physician by training and then venturing into this field of media without any credentials or the grunt work makes him what he is today.
All the others on the list have adopted this profession by choice and have slogged through the ranks and have polished their skills and learned the tricks and netiquettes of the trade they are in. We may disagree with their opinions but at least we can say that they are being professional most of the time - for me its hard to say the same for Dr. Sahib :)
Though I have one thing to say - I believe that in the list you mentioned below - Dr. SM is the odd man out - A physician by training and then venturing into this field of media without any credentials or the grunt work makes him what he is today.
All the others on the list have adopted this profession by choice and have slogged through the ranks and have polished their skills and learned the tricks and netiquettes of the trade they are in. We may disagree with their opinions but at least we can say that they are being professional most of the time - for me its hard to say the same for Dr. Sahib :)
freshnkool
Minister (2k+ posts)
do you know despite my likness for dr. shahid from some time i have felt that his program has become more of a gossip corner like many others as compare to an authentic tv show. (since many guests on his talk show come with rhetoric mentality and many things or predictions which dr. sahib said did not turn out to be valid)
so i was trying to find out his number so that i can call him and tell him that people like you and trust you and they think that what you are saying is true but if your information gets proven as wrong information or disinformation you will loose your trust at least in the educated and mature audience so stop doing this plz. but i could not find his number though overall i like him but i also do feel the lack of authenticity and value is missing more and more with time in dr. shahid which should be in a professional journalist. where a professional journalist will try to say things which he has full confidence that they are true and try to avoid saying things premature or which are just produced in rummer mill. and if dr. shaid keeps on doing like this he will loose trust of the people with time. i still think he is good man i and i hope he realizes this
Kashif1980
New Member
guys dont read him and dont watch his programme.i think 98% media of pak is on pay role from political mafia
Are you serious ?
Take out Previous one Month's newspapers, read Hamid Mir's Columns, watch his programs, He is THE ONLY ONE supporter for this Government without a doubt...
Read threads posted here by other members about "for how much did you sell yourself hamid mir" and "Mir Jaffer & Mir Sadiq" etc.
I think you are out of touch for last 3-4 weeks, All of us are wondering how Hamid Mir can ignore the "Achievements of Government in Every Department of Pakistan" and can call for support for PPP Government.
I am just amazed with that ...........
Remember, Shahid Masood & Sheikh Rasheed exposed Hamid Mir's past few days ago, when they came up with this revelation that it was Hamid Mir & Nusrat Javed who used to prepare the News Briefs about PPP Corruption in Saif-ur-Rehman NAB Era everyday before Khabarnaama .....
Stunning Stunning Revelation .............
Meray razdaar bhai I am very serious:)
Again I have not been out of pocket for the last month - in fact I have paid more attention to idiotic happenings than ever before and I did read his columns and saw his shows.
If I start to go by what people write here then I am sure I will go insane - do you seriously believe everything that members write here (myself included)- what I wrote in my post was questioning why you said what you said in starting the thread and posting a column which didn't substantiate the accusation you leveled at him. Simple as that -can you vouch for the character and authencity of Sh. Rashid and Dr. SM?? If you look at their behavior over the last few years then you will see the flaws in their characters too - so I am not sure if I will take any accusations they level at anyone very seriously.
Another thing is that you have not given me any sources where he has protected Zardari government's incompetence and corruption - simple as that. If you give me proof then I will shut up!
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InsafianPTI
Minister (2k+ posts)
all of that you said for dr shahid is very much true for Hamid mir if not for others, I find his programmes the most controversial and the ones that create hype.
Dr shahdi's approach is different but with hamid mir, I think he has developed links with all sorts of people plus he uses his powerful channel to find the inside stories of all, taliban, army, pmln, ppp, pti and from this I can say even Journalists. From what I have understood is that he deliver the relavent news by creating hype about it and at the same time he keeps switching back and forth and I see him compromising his professional demands,
To me he doesn't come with any ideology or right or wrong he is sort of a 'bee jamalo', if you know what I mean.
Dr shahid on the other hand is I think a bit pro establishment, now that could be out of good will or for 'some other reasons' I don't know, But I don't see him jumping from one side to another just for the fun of it. He has the talent to go deep into the depth of the discussion even if it is a rumor and sometimes it seems like he is believing it but God knows what is the truth indeed.
Dr shahdi's approach is different but with hamid mir, I think he has developed links with all sorts of people plus he uses his powerful channel to find the inside stories of all, taliban, army, pmln, ppp, pti and from this I can say even Journalists. From what I have understood is that he deliver the relavent news by creating hype about it and at the same time he keeps switching back and forth and I see him compromising his professional demands,
To me he doesn't come with any ideology or right or wrong he is sort of a 'bee jamalo', if you know what I mean.
Dr shahid on the other hand is I think a bit pro establishment, now that could be out of good will or for 'some other reasons' I don't know, But I don't see him jumping from one side to another just for the fun of it. He has the talent to go deep into the depth of the discussion even if it is a rumor and sometimes it seems like he is believing it but God knows what is the truth indeed.
First and foremost I respect your opinions and choices :)
I am not saying that Hamid is without flaws - almost all pakistani journalists have flaws and the ones on electronic media have more of them.
I watch his shows and he seems better than some but not the best.....
Honestly, I dont consider Dr. Shahid Masood a journalist - I personally think that he would have been better off sticking to his day job as a physician :) - Dr Sahib is not a journalist rather a spin doctor or some such thing but certainly not a journalist
Well thats what a good journalist is supposed to do - develop contacts to get inside scoops on stories. One thing that I dont get is that in Pakistani print and electronic media the lines between a journalist and an opinion makers are blurred and people wander over to either side with bravado - which is completely mind boggling! They should declare whether they are unbiased journalist or opinionated opinion makers. Lack of a clear distinction between the two creates a lot of confusion.
As I said in the begining I respect your opinion and choice and respectfully beg to disagree with your assessment :)
Just the way he has jumped around in his short professional career and the way he approaches issues and personalities makes it very hard for me to digest....
I am not saying that Hamid is without flaws - almost all pakistani journalists have flaws and the ones on electronic media have more of them.
I watch his shows and he seems better than some but not the best.....
Honestly, I dont consider Dr. Shahid Masood a journalist - I personally think that he would have been better off sticking to his day job as a physician :) - Dr Sahib is not a journalist rather a spin doctor or some such thing but certainly not a journalist
Well thats what a good journalist is supposed to do - develop contacts to get inside scoops on stories. One thing that I dont get is that in Pakistani print and electronic media the lines between a journalist and an opinion makers are blurred and people wander over to either side with bravado - which is completely mind boggling! They should declare whether they are unbiased journalist or opinionated opinion makers. Lack of a clear distinction between the two creates a lot of confusion.
As I said in the begining I respect your opinion and choice and respectfully beg to disagree with your assessment :)
Just the way he has jumped around in his short professional career and the way he approaches issues and personalities makes it very hard for me to digest....
crankthskunk
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
My next target is this so-called journalist. Does he forgets all the corruption of BB and Zardari. Bloody crook.
InsafianPTI
Minister (2k+ posts)
well I think we have disagreement here.
you think dr shahid is jumping from one side to other? I guess I didn't see that happening (I have only seen some of his recent programmes so I can't say much) but hamid mir i have seen him switching so many sides, and in my view he goes beyond his jouralism and deliberatily tries to form opinions(he even goes on to do personal attacks as well) and thats what creats controvercy which we don't see on international media and on talat hussain's programme.
Its weird what ever you think about dr shahid I think the same for hamid mir, in my view he is a real 'siasi actor' (zordari is corrupt but not daft, he knows what he is talking about :-))
you think dr shahid is jumping from one side to other? I guess I didn't see that happening (I have only seen some of his recent programmes so I can't say much) but hamid mir i have seen him switching so many sides, and in my view he goes beyond his jouralism and deliberatily tries to form opinions(he even goes on to do personal attacks as well) and thats what creats controvercy which we don't see on international media and on talat hussain's programme.
Its weird what ever you think about dr shahid I think the same for hamid mir, in my view he is a real 'siasi actor' (zordari is corrupt but not daft, he knows what he is talking about :-))
InsafianPTI
Minister (2k+ posts)
yes they are siasi actors, its amazing to see Mir being so positive about the same person who once called mir 'a siasi actor'.
My disdain for Dr's antics doesnt mean that I approve of Hamid Mir's antics :) Though I still think that the Dr. is way ahead of him .....
When I said that the Dr. has switched around I meant his professional affiliations with different media houses - he was even close to the president and was appointed PTV MD which is a position gifted to people who are in the good books of the powers to be....
I agree with you and the few anchors that take seriously are Talat Hussain and Nadim Malik who try to be true to their profession -
When I said that the Dr. has switched around I meant his professional affiliations with different media houses - he was even close to the president and was appointed PTV MD which is a position gifted to people who are in the good books of the powers to be....
I agree with you and the few anchors that take seriously are Talat Hussain and Nadim Malik who try to be true to their profession -
مجھے ڈاکٹر شاھد مسعود سے کویَی دلچسپی نھیں اور میں اُسکو بھی اتنا ھی سازشی سمجھتا ھوں جتنا حامد میر کو۔ لیکن یھاں حامد میر نے دنڈی ماری ھے۔ اُسے یہ بھی بتانا چاھیے تھا کہ وہ اینکر اُسکے بعد اُس ٹی وی چینل سے بھی منسلک رھا جس سے وہ خود منسلک ھے۔ حالانکہ اُس سے پھلے کامران خان کے پروگرام میں اُسکی کافی مٹّی پلید کی گیَی تھی۔ سچ تو سچ ھے لیکن اُسے پورا بولنا چاھیے۔
یہ ااینکرز بھی عوام کو سیاستدانوں کی طرح عوام کو بیوقوف سمجھتے ھیں۔ لیکن اصل میں یہ نھین جانتے کہ عوام کے پاس کو ھر بات کی خبر ھے اب اور وہ اپ صرف تم لوگوں کے تجزیوں پر انحصار نھیں کرتے۔ اُن میں اب اتنی صلاحیّت پیدا ھو چکی ھے کہ وہ خود چیزوں کا تجزیہ کر لیں۔
سو پپو یہ چالاکیان کسی اور کو دکھانا جا کر۔
یہ ااینکرز بھی عوام کو سیاستدانوں کی طرح عوام کو بیوقوف سمجھتے ھیں۔ لیکن اصل میں یہ نھین جانتے کہ عوام کے پاس کو ھر بات کی خبر ھے اب اور وہ اپ صرف تم لوگوں کے تجزیوں پر انحصار نھیں کرتے۔ اُن میں اب اتنی صلاحیّت پیدا ھو چکی ھے کہ وہ خود چیزوں کا تجزیہ کر لیں۔
سو پپو یہ چالاکیان کسی اور کو دکھانا جا کر۔
