Great Green Walls in the World

Admiral

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Africa's Ambitious 8000 kilometers long "Great Green Wall"



Farmers in the western Sahel have achieved a remarkable success by deploying a secret weapon often overlooked in wealthier places: trees.
Not planting trees, but growing them.

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Satellite view of Africa
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Chris Reij, a Dutch environmental specialist at VU University Amsterdam who has worked on agricultural issues in the Sahel for thirty years, and other scientists who have studied the technique say that mixing trees and cropsa practice they have named "farmer-managed natural regeneration," or FMNR, and that is known generally as agro-forestrybrings a range of benefits. The trees' shade and bulk offer crops relief from the overwhelming heat and gusting winds. "In the past, farmers sometimes had to sow their fields three, four, or five times because wind-blown sand would cover or destroy seedlings," said Reij, a silver-haired Dutchman with the zeal of a missionary. "With trees to buffer the wind and anchor the soil, farmers need sow only once."
source:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/a...t-back-drought-and-climate-change-with-trees/

China's Great Green Wall


This process of desertification is particularly acute in China, where more than 400 million people are affected by problems that include the loss of valuable agricultural land and huge sandstorms that batter Beijing.

But now the country is fighting back.

Adam Shaw heads to Doulun County, Inner Mongolia, where the authorities have turned to a low-tech approach to keep the Gobi Desert at bay.

They are building the Great Green Wall, which involves planting millions of trees to block the advancing tide.

source:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20121211-the-green-wall-of-china
 

Fatema

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We should do something like this in Sind as well coz we're also loosing fast our agricultural land to advancing desert . . .
 

Admiral

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We should do something like this in Sind as well coz we're also loosing fast our agricultural land to advancing desert . . .


In Pakistan, the Thar desert is expanding west-wards and north-wards at an average 1.8 - 2 km/year.
Thar is a part of the "great indian desert" that is spread across the Sindh (Pakistan) Rajasthan and Gujarat (India). Indians are also suffering increased rate of desertification in Haryana and Gujarat states. Unfortunately, none of the governments is taking this issue seriously, and Indian government, instead of taking proper scientific measures to control desertification, is focusing more on stealing river water, to combat desertification.
Abundant Information about this desertification in available many geographical & ecological reports prepared by Pakistani & Indian governments as well as UN-EP (Global Deserts Outlook).

On the other hand, Sindh government is busy in conquering the political battlefields instead of taking care of the future of next generations
 
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chandbibi

Minister (2k+ posts)
It is indeed a must to take due cognizance of the expanding deserts. However your contention that India is stealing water to combat desertification is absurd. These areas are deserts because inherently they lack river systems. Also none of the rivers which enter Pakistan from India have anything to do with Rajasthan or Gujarat. So what are we supposed to be stealing and from whom? The articles given below are relevant on the subject and give a glimpse into the realities of the problem and how the government's need to work together to save the area.

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http://www.agriculturesnetwork.org/...rtification/desertification-in-arid-rajasthan


http://www.stimson.org/spotlight/de...hould-collaborate-to-combat-desertification-/




In Pakistan, the Thar desert is expanding west-wards and north-wards at an average 1.8 - 2 km/year.
Thar is a part of the "great indian desert" that is spread across the Sindh (Pakistan) Rajasthan and Gujarat (India). Indians are also suffering increased rate of desertification in Haryana and Gujarat states. Unfortunately, none of the governments is taking this issue seriously, and Indian government, instead of taking proper scientific measures to control desertification, is focusing more on stealing river water, to combat desertification.
Abundant Information about this desertification in available many geographical & ecological reports prepared by Pakistani & Indian governments as well as UN-EP (Global Deserts Outlook).

On the other hand, Sindh government is busy in conquering the political battlefields instead of taking care of the future of next generations
 

Admiral

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I am talking about desertification (not about already existing deserts). Desertification means land which is already cultivable, becomes unusable due to lack of water and loss of fertility due to erosion.
I have already mentioned that the cultivable lands in Haryana (and to some extent in Punjab) are experiencing desertification, and the water table is lowering at extremely fast rate. To keep these areas cultivable, irrigation system is under full stress, the canal networks has drained every single drop of water from Ravi and Sutlej.
In Indus Waters Treaty, the water from these 3 rivers was shared (with India controlling the flow/diversion). However now these rivers are now non-existent on this side of border, and Ravi is now full of industrial waste (incl. chemicals) coming from India, instead of water. While Sutlej is found in history books and 50 years old maps only.


It is indeed a must to take due cognizance of the expanding deserts. However your contention that India is stealing water to combat desertification is absurd. These areas are deserts because inherently they lack river systems. Also none of the rivers which enter Pakistan from India have anything to do with Rajasthan or Gujarat. So what are we supposed to be stealing and from whom? The articles given below are relevant on the subject and give a glimpse into the realities of the problem and how the government's need to work together to save the area.

india-rivers-map.jpg



http://www.agriculturesnetwork.org/...rtification/desertification-in-arid-rajasthan


http://www.stimson.org/spotlight/de...hould-collaborate-to-combat-desertification-/
 

chandbibi

Minister (2k+ posts)
You have made this comment in context of expansion of the Thar desert.Desertification is the result of already arid and dry areas becoming more arid and inhospitable. Which they become primarily because they lack water connectivity and because of overall degradation of soil.
If non desert areas of your country and India are turning arid how is it due to stealing of water? If India was stealing water, why would haryana become arid? If India is stealing water why is indian punjab in this situation? If the indus treaty was not being followed even then there are other reasons which need to be tackled before pushing the blame conveniently on the neighbour and not looking at the wholistic picture. If you don't get water there could be some reason behind it other than "stealing". Do you have any suggestions based on a complete study of the subject? Or are you suggesting that the only reason is India is stealing water? I have seen programs where your water experts have said it is more a problem of lack of an irrigation and storage system in pakistan leading to massive water wastage. I am posting articles related to both India and Pakistan and nowhere do they blame stealing as a reason for the problem. India is well within its rights to build dams. If you don't build dams who is to blame for that?



In India, agriculture's Green Revolution dries up

India's Punjab is running out of water. High-intensity agriculture has also exhausted or contaminated soils, depleted streams and aquifers, and led to resistant pests.




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Surjit Singh, a farmer in India's Punjab state, fell into debt as he spent more to drill deeper for water in ever shorter supply. ( Rick Loomis / Los Angeles Times )
By Kenneth R. Weiss, Los Angeles Times
July 22, 2012
LUDHIANA, India — Propping a bare foot on a circle of bricks, Surjit Singh stroked his white beard and recalled how water once flowed from his well.
It was decades ago, when hybrid wheat seeds arrived from Mexico, each supposedly capable of producing a sturdy plant with fat heads of grain.
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Young and ambitious, Singh signed on to a new way of farming, spreading fertilizer and pesticides generously along with the new seeds. The Indian government guaranteed a minimum price for his grain and provided free electricity to pump as much groundwater as he wanted.
The results seemed nothing short of a miracle. Before, Singh had been able to coax a single crop from his 2-acre field. Now he could plant wheat in summer and rice in winter, and harvest two or three times as much of each. Punjab state became India's breadbasket and turned a starving nation into a food exporter.
After a few years, though, the gush of water from Singh's well slowed to a trickle. He had to sink a deeper well and buy a bigger pump. The cycle continued until he was forced to abandon the well and bore a much deeper one on the other side of his property.
Today, the Punjab, whose name means "land of five rivers," is running out of water.
The thump of well-boring rigs echoes across the plain. Farmers try to drive wells deeper than their neighbors'. The water table is dropping at a rate of about 3 feet a year.
High-intensity agriculture has exacted other costs: Exhausted or salt-contaminated soil, resistant pests and plumes of fertilizer and pesticides in streams and aquifers.
Similar problems have arisen around the world. Agriculture accounts for more than 90% of all the fresh water used by humans. Demand is so great that many of the world's mightiest rivers no longer reach the sea year-round. Grain farmers in the top three cereal-producing countries — China, India and the United States — are pumping water from aquifers faster than rainfall can replace it.
Punjabi farmers produce more than half the grain sold commercially in India. But production is not keeping pace with demand from a growing population. Shorter, more sporadic monsoon rains associated with a changing climate have made matters worse






http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...0726-m-html,0,7979422.htmlstory#ixzz2txlZfoLs










Pakistan to face 31% water shortage by 2025



Experts said Punjab had around 1.3 million tube wells to pump out groundwater, which is bringing down the water level. PHOTO: FILE

FAISALABAD: Water shortage in Pakistan will increase to 31% of people’s needs by 2025 and this underlines the need for some tangible steps, including water usage charges and building of storages, to cope with the problem.
These were the views of speakers at a seminar arranged by the Department of Irrigation and Water Management Research Centre, University of Agriculture Faisalabad (UAF) in collaboration with the International Centre for Agricultural Research in Dry Areas (Icarda) and the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) to observe World Water Day here on Friday.
International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) Country Representative Dr Mahmood Akhtar Cheema pointed out that India was constructing 11 big dams but Pakistan was still in a fix about building of dams and a breakthrough was yet to be made.
“Owing to climate changes, glaciers are melting. And in the absence of water conservation methods, we are experiencing heavy floods, leading to loss of many lives and damage to agriculture,” he said.
Per capita water availability at the time of creation of Pakistan was 5,600 cubic metres, but it currently stands at only 1,000 cubic metres, placing Pakistan among water-scarce countries. To tackle the situation, Cheema suggested that the government should apply reasonable water usage charges to discourage wastage of the resource.
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Icarda Country Head Dr Abdul Majeed emphasised the importance of promoting water conservation techniques by sensitising people and taking fruitful measures. He said Icarda’s strategy combined continuity with change, addressing current problems while expanding focus to emerging challenges such as climate change and desertification.
South Asian Conservation Agriculture Network’s Dr Mushtaq Ahmad Gill was of the view that Pakistan was wasting two-third of its water by following traditional conservation methods and agricultural practices.
Citing examples, he said per capita water availability in the US was 6,000 cubic metres, in Australia 5,500 cubic metres and in China 2,200 cubic metres. In Pakistan, it is only 1,000 cubic metres, posing a threat to people’s lives.
He expressed concern that no authority was working for saving groundwater and suggested that off-channel water reservoirs should be set up to preserve flood water and prevent loss to life and property. “This (saved) water can be used later,” he stressed.
He said Punjab had around 1.3 million tube wells to pump out groundwater, which is bringing down the water level. Eighty per cent of the tube wells were being run on diesel, increasing the cost manifold and requiring application of alternative methods to face the situation, he suggested.
UAF Acting Vice Chancellor Dr Iqbal Zafar said water availability in 2025 would stand at around 100 million acre feet compared to the need of 135 MAF. He stressed the need for increasing water storage capacity to save people’s lives as water resources were shrinking and population was growing rapidly.
To meet the demand for water, he called for kicking off a comprehensive awareness drive to educate people about benefits of judicious consumption and consequences of wastage.
Professor Dr Allah Buksh was of the view that big dams like Kalabagh should be built to save water for coming generations and application of techniques of efficient use of water was the need of the hour to combat water scarcity.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/524948/pakistan-to-face-31-water-shortage-by-2025/

I am talking about desertification (not about already existing deserts). Desertification means land which is already cultivable, becomes unusable due to lack of water and loss of fertility due to erosion.
I have already mentioned that the cultivable lands in Haryana (and to some extent in Punjab) are experiencing desertification, and the water table is lowering at extremely fast rate. To keep these areas cultivable, irrigation system is under full stress, the canal networks has drained every single drop of water from Ravi and Sutlej.
In Indus Waters Treaty, the water from these 3 rivers was shared (with India controlling the flow/diversion). However now these rivers are now non-existent on this side of border, and Ravi is now full of industrial waste (incl. chemicals) coming from India, instead of water. While Sutlej is found in history books and 50 years old maps only.
 
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