Government must act to stop debauchery. Sadly, we are copying western immoral way of life.

Saladin A

Minister (2k+ posts)
In the western debauch, vulgar, lewd and morally decadent societies young boys and girls as young as 8-10 years are have open air sex; 40% of the illegitimate births are among the 12-14 years young girls; 50% of the children born need DNA test because fathers believe that it is not their children and illegitimate; every one marriage in three ends up in a divorce because couple claim adultery by the spouse, and every one child in 9 is born out of incest relationship. Men marry each other; women marry each other and gays and lesbians are given same respect in the society as normal human beings.

In the western societies of today; there is nothing that is considered as a sin and they believe in the philosophy that every human being has the right to live in sin or piety is no business of others. They do not believe in any god, morals and scriptures and their motto is to enjoy life as animals do in jungles.

Unfortunately, our youngsters and even older generation is approving of this immoral, vulgar and debauch way fo western way of life and deviating from the teachings of Islam.

Islam places great emphasis on religious morality, ethics and piety and is very rigid about it and forbids fornication, illicit sex, drugs, alcohol consumption, gambling, homosexuality, lesbianism, debauchery and this is not liked by our modern liberal and secular middle and upper classes.
 
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umer

Minister (2k+ posts)
Oh bhai jaan . Angrazi app ki mutaser kun hai Magar Pahli baat yah Sab pahlay bhi ho raha tha koi nai baat nahi hai. Doosri baat kai yah bhi tou batain na kai Kesay rokain. Ham
sab jantay hain kai bara kuch ghalat ho raha hai dunya mai . Ab Kia Internet ban kar dain ? Tv dakhna band kar dain . Channels ban kar dain ? Yah young logon ko lectures dain ? Kai bacho totay may dakho or woh maan jaingay ? Bhai jaan kuch cheezain asee hain jin ko hamai bhi ab digest karna paray ga or kuch ko rokna paray ga. sharab jo Pakistan mai ban gai, har jaga easily milti hai. Kia faeda hoa us ka? Drugs kitnay young log letay hain? Charas Kon nahi pita. In sari baton ka jawab hona chahyay.
 

escalations

MPA (400+ posts)
Once our ex-PM Shaukit Aziz was referring to problems faced by a common man in Pakistan and someone asked him, have you ever known a common man? shook hands with a common man? how do you know their problems?

Don't know if you actually wrote above or copied from somewhere but I have feeling the writer has never visited Western world. For those who are thinking of taking a trip to watch free porn please note... there are no 8-10 year olds having open air sex. Infact even adults cannot have sex in public, it is against the law.
What is considered morality is very subjective. If you do some detective work you will find out Pakistan has more prostitutes then most western worlds. Unfortunetly lot of it has to do with poverty and then some people who are always present to take advantage of others circumstances.
The divorce rate is an intresting phenomenon also. A lot of women in Pakistan and many other countries continue to be in an abusive marriage as they have no choice. The society has a biased attitude towards divorced women and the children of these marriages have a bleak future.
Similarly when it comes to honesty and moral values when it comes to public dealings, payoffs and bribery then I am sure Pakistan and some other countries have left western world far behind. I think the difference would be 5:1 ratio.

The western world has ofcourse its set of problems. Divorce rate is high, teenage pregnancy is high, I would say drug use is almost the same but to think that somehow Pakistan or some of these Arab countries somehow are sitting on a high pedestal of moral values would be totally wrong.
 

Heart

Councller (250+ posts)
There is a major thing missing among us. Tarbiyat. With the strictest of controls but no tarbiyat everything will flop. Infact without tarbiyat, the thing controlled will flourish much more. However, after tarbiyat - controls also need to be placed. You cannot give enough tarbiyat so as to not have any controls.

Oh bhai jaan . Angrazi app ki mutaser kun hai Magar Pahli baat yah Sab pahlay bhi ho raha tha koi nai baat nahi hai. Doosri baat kai yah bhi tou batain na kai Kesay rokain. Ham
sab jantay hain kai bara kuch ghalat ho raha hai dunya mai . Ab Kia Internet ban kar dain ? Tv dakhna band kar dain . Channels ban kar dain ? Yah young logon ko lectures dain ? Kai bacho totay may dakho or woh maan jaingay ? Bhai jaan kuch cheezain asee hain jin ko hamai bhi ab digest karna paray ga or kuch ko rokna paray ga. sharab jo Pakistan mai ban gai, har jaga easily milti hai. Kia faeda hoa us ka? Drugs kitnay young log letay hain? Charas Kon nahi pita. In sari baton ka jawab hona chahyay.
 
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Saladin A

Minister (2k+ posts)
The writer has lived many years in the West and knows their culture and way of life inside out. tt is not from any thin air or imagination or self indulgence that he wrote some of the facts. 8-10 years old in schools are shown videos and films about sex and how to put on a condom and what happens next when a boy has worn it. They are given free condoms for the simple reason that they should use them for safe and healthy sex and not to get sexual transmitted diseases or contagious infection. because, girls that young and little older are very active in sexual matters.

I agree with with you 'escalation' that where the westerners excel us is in honesty, sincerity, loyalty to their countries and they are not corrupt to embezzle, loot and squander their countries coffer's to fill their own pockets; they do not adulterate food, edibles, medicines, water and milk etc. They are against bribery, nepotism, favoritism and misusing one's status and authority. Of course they have few who are dishonest and misuse their power and embezzle but the ratio is one in million. But, in Pakistan it is an epidemic disease that inflicts and afflicts one in three persons in the society and our political leaders are the leaders in this trade.

But, the secular west is religiously bankrupt; they live a immoral life and are animals in human clothes. Their women hate wearing clothes and wear as little as possible.
 

nvra911

MPA (400+ posts)
...the question is why then outside the embassies of these westerns countries in Pakistan,

these so-called moral Muslims lining up in hundreds to obtain visa to go to such immoral places?


The answer is: Come out of your imaginary hole of hatred and discrimination and learn to live and accept with other nations and their culture.
 

escalations

MPA (400+ posts)
The writer has lived many years in the West and knows their culture and way of life inside out. tt is not from any thin air or imagination or self indulgence that he wrote some of the facts. 8-10 years old in schools are shown videos and films about sex and how to put on a condom and what happens next when a boy has worn it. They are given free condoms for the simple reason that they should use them for safe and healthy sex and not to get sexual transmitted diseases or contagious infection. because, girls that young and little older are very active in sexual matters.


In the first post you wrote young kids 8-10 years are having sex in open air. When questioned,
In second post you say they are given sex education and you assume they must be having sex.
I think sex education should not be confused with having sex. In sex education you are told in single, 2 hour class how babies are born. How boys are different then girls and how people can transmit sexual disease. I am not sure in what grade but probably the same age is when we in Pakistan learn it all out in the street. Also parents have to right to opt their kids out of that class if they would want to explain it all to their child themselves or learn from street. Simiarly no condoms are distributed to 8-10 years old, total fabrication.

As I said before even if sex is your major concern when it comes to moral values the number of prostitutes in Pakistan exceeds far more then any western country, discuss it with anyone in Police or Intelligence community like ISI or IB. Their customers are Pakistani also. Also there is a huge problem with sexual exploitation of child labour in Pakistan. These small kids working in Driver hotels and different autoshops are ...... well I would rather not discuss. I think we all know of all of these problems in our societies but are too embarrased to talk or fix.
 
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miafridi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Rules are must for everything to remain disciplined. Human should not get that much freedom which is not necessary but may become a head ache. If they so believe in freedom of life then they should also demolish the constitution and state laws(although hurting or killing others may still remain as a crime).
 

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