Golden Opportunity for Mian Nawaz Sharif to knock Imran Khan out of the race BUT will he do it?

[anonymous_pakistani]

 

[sherkhan314]

Re: Golden Opportunity for Mian Nawaz Sharif to make a come back? BUT will he??

Raymond Baker not Davis. Mr Anonymous if you think u'll get a logical response from PMLN supporters, u are wrong. :) They'll come here , "maar some sort of chawal", and run back into their holes.

 

[Bombaybuz]

Re: Golden Opportunity for Mian Nawaz Sharif to make a come back? BUT will he??

NS ka pass aik he opportunity hai sirf aik aur woh hai ka us Pak Zaat ka hazoor toobah aur kaffara aadda karney ki jis ki mujha nahi lagta miyan sahab ko koe toofeeq hogi ... tou bus toobah ka darwaza khula hai jab tak k saans hai ... baki tou ya dono bhai apne hissay sai barh ker zulm kama chukey aur her jatey din mazeed kama rahey hain ...

 

[concern_paki]

Re: Golden Opportunity for Mian Nawaz Sharif to make a come back? BUT will he??

I think he was involved in all these corruptions, otherwise why a writer would like to false allegations on someone while writing a book, specially in these countries ...... Does NS have any answers/clarifications on that ...

 

[anyie1]

Re: Golden Opportunity for Mian Nawaz Sharif to make a come back? BUT will he??

o bhai , iss ko maloom hay kay us nay yay sub corruption key hay,,, choor hay yay aur choor khabhi bhee risk nahin lay ga sue karnay key.

 

[anonymous_pakistani]

Re: Golden Opportunity for Mian Nawaz Sharif to make a come back? BUT will he??

Raymond Baker not Davis.

Yes, I realized that after I uploaded it, thanks for pointing out though, I guess..

Mr Anonymous if you think u'll get a logical response from PMLN supporters, u are wrong. :) They'll come here , "maar some sort of chawal", and run back into their holes.

If logic isn't convincing them, then it means, they are certainly paid workers? I usually see only 2-3 PMLN guys posting regularly on here. Compare that to 100s of PTI. Certainly something fishy there.

 

[anonymous_pakistani]

Re: Golden Opportunity for Mian Nawaz Sharif to make a come back? BUT will he??

NS ka pass aik he opportunity hai sirf aik aur woh hai ka us Pak Zaat ka hazoor toobah aur kaffara aadda karney ki jis ki mujha nahi lagta miyan sahab ko koe toofeeq hogi ... tou bus toobah ka darwaza khula hai jab tak k saans hai ... baki tou ya dono bhai apne hissay sai barh ker zulm kama chukey aur her jatey din mazeed kama rahey hain ...

I think you are making it sound too simple. He is in such a mess, that its almost impossible for him to get out of it.

 

[anonymous_pakistani]

Re: Golden Opportunity for Mian Nawaz Sharif to make a come back? BUT will he??

I think he was involved in all these corruptions, otherwise why a writer would like to false allegations on someone while writing a book, specially in these countries ...... Does NS have any answers/clarifications on that ...

I agree!

I am sure, Raymond has certainly did his home work before alleging Nawaz for all this corruption. Sharifs silence confirms his allegations.

 

[Khansaber]

Re: Golden Opportunity for Mian Nawaz Sharif to make a come back? BUT will he??

NATIONS ALWAYS NEED BIG PARTIES IN MOVING FORWARD .AS ONE PARTYSHIP IS DICTATORISM.

>>>IF SHEIKH RASHEED SHOW COMMITMENT AND ENTHUSIAAM HE CAN REPLACE PMLN AND PPP EMPTY SLOT .EXAMPLE OF IK IS IN FRONT OF HIM ( He is hero in spite of so many devils he overcame) PTI ALSO STARTED WITH ONE only one seat PARTY .

IF PTI DON't DELIVER OR GET HIGH JACKED BY BIG NAMES ......SHEIKH GOT CHANCE LET C IF HE CAN EVOLUATE AND STAND AGAINST PMLN AND PPP AGENDA And replace it with public freindly and fairism

 

[anonymous_pakistani]

Re: Golden Opportunity for Mian Nawaz Sharif to make a come back? BUT will he??

NATIONS ALWAYS NEED BIG PARTIES IN MOVING FORWARD .AS ONE PARTYSHIP IS DICTATORISM.

>>>IF SHEIKH RASHEED SHOW COMMITMENT AND ENTHUSIAAM HE CAN REPLACE PMLN AND PPP EMPTY SLOT .EXAMPLE OF IK IS IN FRONT OF HIM ( He is hero in spite of so many devils he overcame) PTI ALSO STARTED WITH ONE only one seat PARTY .

IF PTI DON't DELIVER OR GET HIGH JACKED BY BIG NAMES ......SHEIKH GOT CHANCE LET C IF HE CAN EVOLUATE AND STAND AGAINST PMLN AND PPP AGENDA And replace it with public freindly and fairism

What does your post have to do with the topic?

 

[sherkhan314]

Re: Golden Opportunity for Mian Nawaz Sharif to make a come back? BUT will he??

Yes, I realized that after I uploaded it, thanks for pointing out though, I guess..



If logic isn't convincing them, then it means, they are certainly paid workers? I usually see only 2-3 PMLN guys posting regularly on here. Compare that to 100s of PTI. Certainly something fishy there.

For sure. By now we can certainly establish no sane or logical person would support them. Unless they're given some sort of incentive. This is a situation of Hope (which IK offers) vs Bribery and limited Financial gains (which PMLN is offering them). Same way the party people support their leaders despite the fact that theyre tested many times. Because theyre getting some sort of incentives. The people who are poor and downtrodden and also sane people like us who think beyond ourselves now support IK. Many of my relatives who are in present PPP/PMLN govt will be in trouble if he comes into power, but this is the way it has to be done. I can either choose them or choose a better future for my next generations.

The PMLN supporters here only think about themselves, they use the same "ghissi pitti" motorway line, atomic blasts statement, laptop scheme etc etc. Frankly speaking, im pretty sure they know they are WASTING their time here and they wont be able to convert a single guy on this website.

Now comes the question why they still keep posting those petty arguments, and when we all provide our logic, they run away. Its because theyre doing this as a paid job, do their "dehari" and done for the day. Starting useless, baseless threads against PTI, troll a few times, no reasonable answer. Why does one do that?

Hence proved no educated reasonable person would support NS or PPP.

 

[anonymous_pakistani]

Re: Golden Opportunity for Mian Nawaz Sharif to make a come back? BUT will he??

For sure. By now we can certainly establish no sane or logical person would support them. Unless they're given some sort of incentive. This is a situation of Hope (which IK offers) vs Bribery and limited Financial gains (which PMLN is offering them). Same way the party people support their leaders despite the fact that theyre tested many times. Because theyre getting some sort of incentives. The people who are poor and downtrodden and also sane people like us who think beyond ourselves now support IK. Many of my relatives who are in present PPP/PMLN govt will be in trouble if he comes into power, but this is the way it has to be done. I can either choose them or choose a better future for my next generations.

The PMLN supporters here only think about themselves, they use the same "ghissi pitti" motorway line, atomic blasts statement, laptop scheme etc etc. Frankly speaking, im pretty sure they know they are WASTING their time here and they wont be able to convert a single guy on this website.

Now comes the question why they still keep posting those petty arguments, and when we all provide our logic, they run away. Its because theyre doing this as a paid job, do their "dehari" and done for the day. Starting useless, baseless threads against PTI, troll a few times, no reasonable answer. Why does one do that?

Hence proved no educated reasonable person would support NS or PPP.

Can you please tag them to this thread. I can't seem to remember any of their names.

Let's see if they respond to that. Looks like they only pick and choose ;)

 

[code_decode]

Re: Golden Opportunity for Mian Nawaz Sharif to make a come back? BUT will he??

Anonymous.. Balay Balay Balay...CHA gya....Nawaz nay pehlay hi tv pay ana bund kur dia hai.... lol..ab wo ghur say bhi bahir nahen niklay ga....

 

[insaf-seeker]

Re: Golden Opportunity for Mian Nawaz Sharif to make a come back? BUT will he??

Jo sacha hota hai wohi fight back kerta hai, kuch dino pehlay Hanif Abbasi nay Shaukat Khaunum per awam k paisay lootnay ka ilzaam lagaya tha aur 1 week k ander he SKMH nay Hanif Abbasi ko legal notice bhaij diya tha aur ab case adalaat mein hai, Nawaz Sharif ko maloom hai keh ager in ilzaamat ko deny keray ga tao iss book ka author yeh corruption prove ker dey ga.

Nawaz Sharif bewaqoof tao hai per itna Bhola nahin :)

 

[zeeshan777]

Nawaz Sharifs Corruption highlighted in Raymond Bakers book

By M.Yousaf

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Nawaz Sharifs Corruption highlighted in Raymond Bakers book on Dirty Money Raymond Baker in his book Capitalisms Achilles Heel: Dirty Money and How to Renew the Free-Market System tried to understand the dynamics of how dirty money works.Corruption and criminality run from the top down, with the political class constantly looting the national treasury and distorting economic policy for personal gain. Bank loans are granted largely on the basis of status and connections. The rich stash much of their money abroad in those willing western coffers, while exhibiting little inclination to repay their rupee borrowings. Pakistans recent history has been dominated by two familiesthe Bhuttos and the Sharifsboth merely tolerated by the military, the real power in the country. When it comes to economic destruction, theres not a lot of difference among the three.While Benazir Bhutto hated the generals for executing her father, Nawaz Sharif early on figured out that they held the real power in Pakistan. His father had established a foundry in 1939 and, together with six brothers, had struggled for years only to see their business nationalized by Ali Bhuttos regime in 1972. This sealed decades of enmity between the Bhuttos and the Sharifs. Following the military coup and General Zias assumption of power, the businessIttefaqwas returned to family hands in 1980.Nawaz Sharif became a director and cultivated relations with senior military officers. This led to his appointment as finance minister of Punjab and then election as chief minister of this most populous province in 1985. During the 1980s and early 1990s, given Sharif s political control of Punjab and eventual prime ministership of the country, Ittefaq Industries grew from its original single foundry into 30 businesses producing steel, sugar, paper, and textiles, with combined revenues of $400 million, making it one of the biggest private conglomerates in the nation. As in many other countries, when you control the political realm, you can get anything you want in the economic realm. With Lahore, the capital of Punjab, serving as the seat of the familys power, one of the first things Sharif did upon becoming prime minister in 1990 was build his long-dreamed-of superhighway from there to the capital,Islamabad. Estimated to cost 8.5 billion rupees,the project went through two biddings. Daewoo of Korea, strengthening its proposals with midnight meetings, was the highest bidder both times, so obviously it won the contract and delivered the job at well over 20 billion rupees.A new highway needs new cars. Sharif authorized importation of 50,000 vehicles duty free, reportedly costing the government $700 million in lost customs duties. Banks were forced to make loans for vehicle purchases to would-be taxi cab drivers upon receipt of a 10 percent deposit.Borrowers got their Nawaz Sharif cabs, and some 60 percent of them promptly defaulted. This left the banks with $500 million or so in unpaid loans. Vehicle dealers reportedly made a killing and expressed their appreciation in expected ways. Under Sharif, unpaid bank loans and massive tax evasion remained the favorite ways to get rich. Upon his loss of power the usurping government published a list of 322 of the largest loan defaulters, representing almost $3 billion out of $4 billion owed to banks. Sharif and his family were tagged for $60 million. The Ittefaq Group went bankrupt in 1993 when Sharif lost his premiership the first time.By then only three units in the group were operational, and loan defaults of the remaining companies totaled some 5.7 billion rupees, more than $100 million.Like Bhutto, offshore companies have been linked to Sharif, three in the British Virgin Islands by the names of Nescoll, Nielson, and Shamrock and another in the Channel Islands known as Chandron Jersey Pvt. Ltd. Some of these entities allegedly were used to facilitate purchase of four rather grand flats on Park Lane in London, at various times occupied by Sharif family members. Reportedly, payment transfers were made to Banque Paribas en Suisse, which then instructed Sharif s offshore companies Nescoll and Nielson to purchase the four luxury suites. In her second term, Benazir Bhutto had Pakistans Federal Investigating Agency begin a probe into the financial affairs of Nawaz Sharif and his family. The probe was headed by Rehman Malik, deputy director general of the agency. Malik had fortified his reputation earlier by aiding in the arrest of Ramzi Yousef, mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. During Sharif s second term, the draft report of the investigation was suppressed, Malik was jailed for a year, and later reportedly survived an assassination attempt, after which he fled to London. The Malik report, five years in the making, was released in 1998, with explosive revelations: The records, including government documents, signed affidavits from Pakistani officials, bank files and property records, detail deals that Mr. Malik says benefited Mr. Sharif, his family and his political associates:* At least $160 million pocketed from a contract to build a highway from Lahore, his home town, to Islamabad, the nations capital.* At least $140 million in unsecured loans from Pakistans state banks.* More than $60 million generated from government rebates on sugar exported by mills controlled by Mr. Sharif and his business associates.* At least $58 million skimmed from inflated prices paid for imported wheat from the United States and Canada. In the wheat deal, Mr. Sharif s government paid prices far above market value to a private company owned by a close associate of his in Washington, the records show. Falsely inflated invoices for the wheat generated tens of millions of dollars in cash.The report went on to state that The extent and magnitude of this corruption is so staggering that it has put the very integrity of the country at stake. In an interview, Malik added: No other leader of Pakistan has taken that much money from the banks. There is no rule of law in Pakistan. It doesnt exist. What brought Sharif down in his second term was his attempt to acquire virtually dictatorial powers. In 1997 he rammed a bill through his compliant parliament requiring legislators to vote as their party leaders directed. In 1998 he introduced a bill to impose Sharia law (Muslim religious law) across Pakistan, with himself empowered to issue unilateral directives in the name of Islam. In 1999 he sought to sideline the army by replacing Chief of Staff Pervez Musharraf with a more pliable crony. He forgot the lessons he had learned in the 1980s: The army controls Pakistan and politicians are a nuisance. As Musharraf was returning from Sri Lanka, Sharif tried to sack him in midair and deny the Pakistan International Airways flight with 200 civilians on board landing rights in Karachi. Musharraf radioed from the aircraft through Dubai to his commander in Karachi, ordering him to seize the airport control tower, accomplished as the plane descended almost out of fuel. Musharraf turned the tables and completed his coup, and Sharif was jailed.But Sharif had little to fear. This, after all, is Pakistan. Musharraf needed to consolidate his power with the generals, and Sharif knew details about the corruption of most of the brass. Obviously, it is better to tread lightly around the edges of your peer groups own thievery. So Musharraf had Sharif probed, tried, convicted, and sentenced to life in prison, but then in 2000 exiled him to Saudi Arabia.Twenty-two containers of carpets and furniture followed, and, of course, his foreign accounts remained mostly intact. Ensconced in a glittering palace in Jeddah, he is described as looking corpulent amidst opulent surroundings. Reportedly, he and Benazir Bhutto even have an occasional telephone conversation, perhaps together lamenting how unfair life has become.


Reference http://pakpotpourri.wordpress.com/2...ighted-in-raymond-bakers-book-on-dirty-money/

 

[values]

Re: Nawaz Sharifs Corruption highlighted in Raymond Bakers book

This book is available on net.You can google it and download its PDF format.12 pages are for Pakistan.

 

[ijazz s]

Re: Nawaz Sharifs Corruption highlighted in Raymond Bakers book

oh ho is tarah ki hazaron books market me he kisi k paas proof he to le k court me jaye... oh haan tsunami khan ne november me challenge kiya tha k me 1 month me tamam politixians k hidden assets k proofs court me le k jao ga.. kya hua us challenge ka???

 

[naveed]

Re: Nawaz Sharifs Corruption highlighted in Raymond Bakers book

oh ho is tarah ki hazaron books market me he kisi k paas proof he to le k court me jaye... oh haan tsunami khan ne november me challenge kiya tha k me 1 month me tamam politixians k hidden assets k proofs court me le k jao ga.. kya hua us challenge ka???

Please watch the video above in first post.

 

[Awais Afzal]

Re: Nawaz Sharifs Corruption highlighted in Raymond Bakers book

oh ho is tarah ki hazaron books market me he kisi k paas proof he to le k court me jaye... oh haan tsunami khan ne november me challenge kiya tha k me 1 month me tamam politixians k hidden assets k proofs court me le k jao ga.. kya hua us challenge ka???

bs ho gya ayen bbayen shayen wala kaam shru ..pehlay vedio to dekh lay meray bhai..phr kehna vedios b bohaat hen..(yapping)

 

[RashidAhmed]

Zabardast hai but Nawaz Sharir ke dil main chor hai woh Adalat jaa kar khud phanse ga