http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1101239964&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20110513
Decide urself...If we have people like him...Who are so ghairatmand.How can we even think about our security and how can we give up slavery.
Ghairat VS Hikmat...A Column by A "Ghairatmand" Pakistani...Shame...Must Read.
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onlykami
MPA (400+ posts)
sb bakwas likha hai agar uski ghairat mar gai hai tu kya hum b be-ghairat ho jain ............. seedha kaho k dum nahi hai tu itni bharkain q marti hai fauj {sub www.chutyapa.com**
moazzamniaz
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Although, Tanveer Qaiser Shahid is a known Malook worshiper(Army and Aal e Saud boot licker), but i think that he is right about Mullah Omar, Dr Aafia case, Turkish example and Socrates-Galileo comparison. We should always think about the consequences and be pragmatic. However, he cant justify incompetence of Army and ISI.
Ch Azam
Councller (250+ posts)
Janab Tanveer Qaiser Sb jis sher par ap ne tanqeed ki ha, ye ap jesa hi koi BEGARAT kar sakta ha . . . . . . . Dharti Maan ki tarha hoti ha or ap jesay log is par bhi ye mashwara detay hain k hikmat ikhtair karo.............Janab " HIKMAT " or " BEGARITI" main thora farq hota ha. . . . . agar ap ko pata hota tu ap ye column na likhtay............
onlykami
MPA (400+ posts)
kya theek likha hai aesi hikmat-e-amli lagai hai k hamari izzat ka janaza nikal dya hai aur baki reh gaya hamara jism tu baghair izzat k jeena tu ****** ki tarhan hi jeena hai aur ****** ki tarhan hi marna .... aesi zindagi aur maslihat aapko hi mubarak ho
The Quran teaches us ghairat and hikmat and one is not opposite of the other. Allah himself is self reliant and he teaches us to be self reliant this is ghairat. Self reliance is not possible if people do not take this as stand and then work hard to make it a reality.
Pakistan is a nation and this nation must take stand for self reliance and then do what is needed to become self sufficient in as many things as possible and days are not far that we will be a people who really can be proud of ourselves. So long as we have no self respect, we will not become self reliant.
When others want to cripple you, they give you gifts till you become fully reliant upon them and then once they have you addicted and destroyed your self awareness and self respect and self reliance then they start sucking your blood by taking back not only what they gave you as gifts but much more than that.
Pakistan should start building its infrastructures and industries by means of whatever we have in our country and start cutting down on foreign help. It is ok to rely on others for things that we cannot do at the top end of the scale but we should never be so bad that we rely for each and every little thing on other countries.
The main blame goes to our rich and powerful political and religious leadership who misled and exploited our own people and ruined the country. The blame secondarily rests on public who have brains but are not bothered to seek information and learn to judge it because not everything costs that much money or effort that they rather suffer for a life time.
The true guides of nations were people who wanted to get them out of darkness of ignorance with light of knowledge but instead of learning from them they kicked them out of their lives on directions of those very politicians and mullahs who are responsible for ruining the ummah and its nation states.
Pakistan is a nation and this nation must take stand for self reliance and then do what is needed to become self sufficient in as many things as possible and days are not far that we will be a people who really can be proud of ourselves. So long as we have no self respect, we will not become self reliant.
When others want to cripple you, they give you gifts till you become fully reliant upon them and then once they have you addicted and destroyed your self awareness and self respect and self reliance then they start sucking your blood by taking back not only what they gave you as gifts but much more than that.
Pakistan should start building its infrastructures and industries by means of whatever we have in our country and start cutting down on foreign help. It is ok to rely on others for things that we cannot do at the top end of the scale but we should never be so bad that we rely for each and every little thing on other countries.
The main blame goes to our rich and powerful political and religious leadership who misled and exploited our own people and ruined the country. The blame secondarily rests on public who have brains but are not bothered to seek information and learn to judge it because not everything costs that much money or effort that they rather suffer for a life time.
The true guides of nations were people who wanted to get them out of darkness of ignorance with light of knowledge but instead of learning from them they kicked them out of their lives on directions of those very politicians and mullahs who are responsible for ruining the ummah and its nation states.
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moazzamniaz
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
خواب دیکھنے اور شیخ چلی بننے پر کوئی پابندی نہیں. لیکن حقیقت کی دنیا اس سے قطعی مختلف ہے، جس میں روزانہ ہر انسان کو کم از کم اٹھارہ گھنٹے رہنا پڑتا ہے
onlykami
MPA (400+ posts)
tmhari jesi soch jis ki ho aisay 18 ghantay usi ko mubarak "sher ki aik din ki zindagi gidar ki 100 saal ki zindagi say behtar hai "
Ch Azam
Councller (250+ posts)
Agar koi taqatwar shaks Zabardasti ap k ghar main guss kar ap k ghar ko aag laga dey tu keya ap kamzoor honay k bawajood usay roknay ki koshis karain ge ya hikmat k tehat khamoosh rahain ge............. ?
moazzamniaz
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
١- یہ سارے کھوکھلے نعرے ہیں. کم از کم ٹیپو بطور سپہ سالار میدان جنگ میں آخر تک موجود تھا. جبکہ آج کے نام نہاد غیرت مند ایبٹ آباد، فاٹا اور کراچی کی کنواری کالونی کے بلوں میں دبکے ہوے ہیں
٢- حقائق اور نتائج آپ کے سب دعووں اور شیخیوں کی نفی کرتے ہیں. ایک اہم بات کہ عقل کا استعمال اسلام میں حرام یا مکروہ نہیں ہے
moazzamniaz
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
بھائی، یہ ہم مسلمان ہمیشہ آدھا سچ ہی کیوں بولتے ہیں؟؟؟؟؟ حتیٰ کہ آپس میں بات کرتے ہوے بھی آدھا سچ کھا جاتے ہیں
١- اگر میرے گھر سے کوئی شرارتی انسان جا کر محلے کے طاقتور ترین بدمعاش کے گھر جا کر قتل کر کے واپس بھاگ آے ، تو مجھے کیا امید کرنی چاہیے؟؟؟؟
٢- اور اگر میں خود اسی شرارتی انسان کی حوصلہ افزائی کروں اور اسے بچاتا پھروں، تو پھر میرے ساتھ کیا ہو گا؟؟؟؟؟؟
یہ پہلا سوال بنتا ہے
Resonant
MPA (400+ posts)
It reminded me a joke......
A man was running on the road. One of his friends saw him, so he stopped him. The man was out of breath because of running.
His friend asked him "Why are you running?"
The guy controlled his breathing and after a while said:
"Pichlay chowk mein log Abba ji ko jootay maar rahay hein, mein barri mushkil say izzat bacha ker aa gaya hoon."
:angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smile:(thumbsdown)
A man was running on the road. One of his friends saw him, so he stopped him. The man was out of breath because of running.
His friend asked him "Why are you running?"
The guy controlled his breathing and after a while said:
"Pichlay chowk mein log Abba ji ko jootay maar rahay hein, mein barri mushkil say izzat bacha ker aa gaya hoon."
:angry_smile::angry_smile::angry_smile:(thumbsdown)
Ch Azam
Councller (250+ posts)
Bhai gee abhi tu Haram or Halal ki bat hi nahi ho rahi bat tu sirf Be-Gariti or Hikmat k farq ki ho rahi ha........ ap ne jawab nahi deya meray sawal ka ?
moazzamniaz
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I answered 20 minutes ago. See post# 11.
Ch Azam
Councller (250+ posts)
Thanks i got it........ Dear Brother agar ap ki mantak man li jaye tu phir is ka matlab ha k koi bhi Pakistani kisi bhi mulk main koi jurm karta ha tu us mulk ko ijazat ha k wo is sharati ko hamaray mulk main aa kar bhooon kar chala jaye ? or ham hikmat le kar betay rahain.......?
moazzamniaz
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
بھائی، یہ صرف ایک شخص کی بات نہیں. تعداد ہزاروں میں ہے، جو روزانہ پاکستان سے افغانستان میں داخل ہوتے ہیں اور وہاں فساد برپا کرتے ہیں. اب یا تو پاکستان خود ان کو لگام ڈال لے ، وگرنہ محلے کا بدمعاش ڈالے گا. پتہ آپ کو بھی ہر چیز کا ہے
onlykami
MPA (400+ posts)
yeh khokhlay naaray hain sirf aap kalya nahi tu tareekh sabit kar chki hai k yeh naaray khokhlay nahi, musalman agar tmhari aqal say sochay tu wo kabhi ghazwai badar aur is jaisi hazaron jangain larnay ka tasawwur b nai kar sakta, aur rahi baat chup kar baithnay ki tu yeh america k sadar say pocho k usama k sirf naam say hi uska peeshab nikal jata hai aur tum darnay ki baat kar rahay ho
moazzamniaz
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
میرے بھائی، اب ان مجہولوں کی بیوقوفیوں کو غزوات سے نہ ملاؤ. میں نے ان فسادیوں اور اس وقت کے عظیم ترین اور دانشمند مسلمانوں کے درمیان فرق گنوانا شروع کیے تو آپ ان ظالمان کو اسلام کی روشنی میں پہچان بھی نہیں سکو گے. یہ صرف مسلمانوں کے خون کے پیاسے خونخوار بھیڑیے ہیں
crankthskunk
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Army assets are out to protect their own interest through these "beghairt" journalists.
Hikmat? Ok let's talk about Hikmat. Pakistanis gave the credit to the Americans for the operation. They after knowing Americans were in, kept quite didn't shoot down the helicopters, even though they could have, because they feared the war. This man says it is Hikmat, let us see if he is right.
1- Americans are barking every day, asking questions and demanding answers.
2- ISI has terminated their co-operation with CIA.
3- Americans say they are entitled and would carry out other operations inside Pakistan if need arises.
4- Continous drone attacks killing innocent Pakistanis.
5- India is declaring they have the same rights to attack Pakistan to take care of so-called terrorists.
6- Failure of Pakistan to raise its protest officially at UN, writing a note to the Americans protesting their incursion and demanding answers under what international laws this incursion was justified? This failure is setting precedent in International Laws and many western countries are worried and can not understand why Pakistan has not even registered token protest in UN and with Americans, or even Issued an unambiguous statement condemning and protesting the incursion.
7- There is more than likely chance War with America is becoming imminent.
8- Now even the terrorists are attacking us, the result today's terror attack.
And this idiot is saying it is "Hikmat"?
This is the problem, people I have repeatedly written our Jouralists are one of the most corrupt and useless I have ever seen. How many of our Journalists do proper investigative work? How many of them write informative and well researched pieces? How many get involved in long term, policy shapping work, papers, series of Articles? Answers to all these questions is none.
What are the numbers of Journalists in Pakistan?
This is a spectacular failure indeed. This man and many are earning the money which they get from Army and their other masters.
Shame, shame and shame.
Why can't we understand The Almighty Allah SWT has declared very unambiguously in the Holy Quran:
This command of Allah SWT is proven 100% right over the centuries. But idiot like him still think, "Hikmat" is what we have done with Americans. Allah SWT decreed in these Words of "Hikmah" for these kind of "Hikmat" lovers;
What a joke on Pakistani nation. He and likes of him are still trying to say to people of Pakistan keep sleeping, nothing is wrong, let the Americans do what they want, it is "Hikmat" if you lay low and do or say nothing.
The might is right, you should take international shame on your shoulders, but no trouble Hikmat demands it that you should be treated as worthless creatures in the World and your hereafter is destroyed too. But take my word for it , this is Hikmat. Stay as cowards, if you want to survive. :angry_smile:
Hikmat? Ok let's talk about Hikmat. Pakistanis gave the credit to the Americans for the operation. They after knowing Americans were in, kept quite didn't shoot down the helicopters, even though they could have, because they feared the war. This man says it is Hikmat, let us see if he is right.
1- Americans are barking every day, asking questions and demanding answers.
2- ISI has terminated their co-operation with CIA.
3- Americans say they are entitled and would carry out other operations inside Pakistan if need arises.
4- Continous drone attacks killing innocent Pakistanis.
5- India is declaring they have the same rights to attack Pakistan to take care of so-called terrorists.
6- Failure of Pakistan to raise its protest officially at UN, writing a note to the Americans protesting their incursion and demanding answers under what international laws this incursion was justified? This failure is setting precedent in International Laws and many western countries are worried and can not understand why Pakistan has not even registered token protest in UN and with Americans, or even Issued an unambiguous statement condemning and protesting the incursion.
7- There is more than likely chance War with America is becoming imminent.
8- Now even the terrorists are attacking us, the result today's terror attack.
And this idiot is saying it is "Hikmat"?
This is the problem, people I have repeatedly written our Jouralists are one of the most corrupt and useless I have ever seen. How many of our Journalists do proper investigative work? How many of them write informative and well researched pieces? How many get involved in long term, policy shapping work, papers, series of Articles? Answers to all these questions is none.
What are the numbers of Journalists in Pakistan?
This is a spectacular failure indeed. This man and many are earning the money which they get from Army and their other masters.
Shame, shame and shame.
Why can't we understand The Almighty Allah SWT has declared very unambiguously in the Holy Quran:
This command of Allah SWT is proven 100% right over the centuries. But idiot like him still think, "Hikmat" is what we have done with Americans. Allah SWT decreed in these Words of "Hikmah" for these kind of "Hikmat" lovers;
What a joke on Pakistani nation. He and likes of him are still trying to say to people of Pakistan keep sleeping, nothing is wrong, let the Americans do what they want, it is "Hikmat" if you lay low and do or say nothing.
The might is right, you should take international shame on your shoulders, but no trouble Hikmat demands it that you should be treated as worthless creatures in the World and your hereafter is destroyed too. But take my word for it , this is Hikmat. Stay as cowards, if you want to survive. :angry_smile:
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