Front Line - 24th December 2010 - **Halala**

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)

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Dr. Naik, May Allah Forgive you. You are wrong when you are saying that if One Talaq is
given and the Eddat also passes, the husband can marry the lady. When Eddat passes, Dr. Naik,
it is all OVER, with one Talaq, or two. The basic condition is that before the termiantion
of Eddat period of three months/Haize, you can reunite. And thats only two times
in whole of your life.
There is no such word "Rajee", "Bahainee" in Quran, these things people themselves
given. "Rajee" because you can make rajoo(reversion), but this word "rajee talaq" as such
not mentioned. Talaq is a Talaq.
 

Unicorn

Banned
Very interesting program. I think everyone knows how these things work. When the couple went to consult Maulana they knew what was involved for marriage, they were looking for loop-hole the best Moulana could do was to offer his services, which included Marrilee and consummation and divorce. At least this is what I could make out. May be some one could answer this question, the couple is remarried now already have kids could they be prosecuted and sent to prison, as one of the Maulana suggested? These guys got in to the nitty gritty of the matter.

There was a Egyptian film on this issue, a comedy, with English subtitles when a man divorces his wife and tries to remarry her. He finds a friend for "halala", friend falls in love with the girl and refuses to divorce her.
 

rajakhanmd

Senator (1k+ posts)
@babadeena:

Unfortunately, I am not a religious expert to indulge in a debate like this. Therefore, after this reply, I am not going to respond to your comments. I am sure there are more knowledgeable members here who share my point of view so maybe they can help you with some of your queries. I am not confused in what I do or follow but I cannot explain that to you. My apologies.

Its a known FACT that all the Madahibs are based on Quran e Pak and Sunnah/Ahadeeth. So anyone who follows any of madhab is following Quran and Sunnah. Many people like me consider it a preferred option to act upon the inferences drawn by any of great Imams instead of following an interpretation by someone who just happens to understand arabic. Not to mention the fact that the point of view of Imams is based on Quran and then Sunnah.

Moreover, the differences lies on minor things. Anything mentioned in Quran e Pak is agreed upon by everyone. Differences are there about the methodologies, timings, practice and one practice being superior to other.

After Prophet (SAWS), most of Sahaba R.A. knew Quran and arabic etc. but in case of any dispute or question, Hazrat Ibne Abbas, Ibne Umar, Ibne Masood (R.A.) and Hazat Ayesha (R,A) were consulted and it happened on regular basis. So you may call it as a short cut or whatever but it makes a perfect sense to me as many people also trust me and take my word when it comes to my profession. Oh I believe thats a general truth in the present world but for some reason we don't think its valid when it comes to religion.

I know the answers of the questions that you raised but I think they won't work for you. And I am not afraid to check Quran e Pak by myself. But I am afraid to draw any conclusion or inference by IGNORING other verses of the Quran or by NEGLECTING the Ahadeeth / Sunnah of Prophet (SAWS). Once you start doing that, you will end up in following Ghulam Pervaiz, i.e. hadeeth rejectors.

May Allah SWT guide us and keep us on the straight path.
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
I hope and expect that in next phase of this programme , the Anchor keeping his professional
honesty will also divulge the name of that "Opportunist" Moulvi, who wanted to make hay while
the Sun was going down on this couple.

This "unfortunate" couple immediately should separate from each other and make repentence.
If they wish to re-marry then the way is what Quran has laid down. No one has the authority to
change Allah's words. and Allah has strictly warned "Do not make jest of my Ayats (commandaments)"
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Basic mistake in the program, the victim lady belong to Ahla-Sunnat, Ahla-Tashi scholar should not be called. It created confusion.
 

Raaz

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
There are few questions which bother anyone or everyone, but if we read quran carefully without any Madhahib or Dr. Naik, then
perhaps this matter will be crystal clear. The questions are:
a) How many times, one has to pronounce the Talaaq;
b) if pronounced thrice or more than thrice or less than thrice; will it be one divorce,
of three divorces;
c) What if Talaq is given in Anger;
Each and Everything has been explained in Quran itself. People just wish to get short-cut
and go towards what Madhahab or Dr. Naik says, but do not bother to check themselves Quran.

The best way is , dont divorce even for first time.
 

Bret Hawk

Senator (1k+ posts)
Being a Sunni myself, I've personally liked the logical reasoning of Shi’a Aalim on the matter of giving divorce in a calm position not in rage. Further I’ve found no logic at all in the rhetoric and clarifications of Sunni clerics and that lousy female Member of Parliament on this issue. Secondly though I’ve liked the beautiful lectures of Dr Israr and Naik but it has created some confusion in my mind on the issue of marrying a woman after giving her a divorce by fulfilling the necessary conditions of Islamic Shariah and later marrying her again with new marriage contract along with designating a Mahr (Dowry) amount for her. The critical question is whether a Man can marry his divorcee wife after the expiry of the mandatory Idaah (Grace period for reconciliation) period of three months or not after giving her one or two Talaks (Based on the famous ruling of the great Imam Ibn Taymiyya). This problem is not solved especially after hearing the Biyan of the revered (Late) Dr Israr Sahab.
 
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babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
Perhaps this(Talaq) is one of the few topic which has been dealt fairly long enough
and everything is crystal clear in Quran, but people have made it so complicated, like
Dr. Zakir naik is giving authority to marry again the same lady, who completed
her Eddat:

a) In case of any unpleasantness between Husband and wife, Quran in a way
gave four months of maximum separation from wife. But in these
four months, either husband has to make up his mind to divorce or
to make rajooh;
b) Once Talaq has been given, immediately Eddat starts which is of
three Haize/months. So before this period finishes, Husband can
join the wife. This option he can only utilize twice in whole life.

c) Once the Edaat of three months passed, One talaq or two or three, Goodbye.
 

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