Front Line - 24th December 2010 - **Halala**
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bankalalookheti
MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Front Line - 24th December 2010
hahahahahah [hilar] main apni khidmat paish kar sakta hon.
Mullah nay socha chalo mauqa acha hai kuch apni garmi nikal don. Shaitaan to bilawajeh badnaam hai, these beards, these thekedaars of Islam are the real shaitaan. kankaryan maro in ko.
hahahahahah [hilar] main apni khidmat paish kar sakta hon.
Mullah nay socha chalo mauqa acha hai kuch apni garmi nikal don. Shaitaan to bilawajeh badnaam hai, these beards, these thekedaars of Islam are the real shaitaan. kankaryan maro in ko.
bankalalookheti
MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Front Line - 24th December 2010
hehe. do mullaon main murghi haram. No wonder great western countries keep this non-sense out of their government affairs. :)
hehe. do mullaon main murghi haram. No wonder great western countries keep this non-sense out of their government affairs. :)
Re: Front Line - 24th December 2010
Why are you making fun of beard. You know you are making fun of a sunnah. Why you point to beard when there is a debate. This fun-making can spoil all the good deeds and a man can bedestined to hell in both the worlds.........
Re: Front Line - 24th December 2010
Difference in opinion is natural. If a HOMEOPATHIC doctor and an alopathic doctor differ on some matter would you leave both of them by calling them devil or would you decide the better for yourself. Yes you could choose none of them if you want to die. So we should seek the points of knowledge.
Difference in opinion is natural. If a HOMEOPATHIC doctor and an alopathic doctor differ on some matter would you leave both of them by calling them devil or would you decide the better for yourself. Yes you could choose none of them if you want to die. So we should seek the points of knowledge.
tiger54
MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Front Line - 24th December 2010
actually the movies heard the young voice of the caller and thats why they are so willing to offer their "khidmat"
really embarrasing!! kamran shahid plz dont bring such people again only the scholar on the left made sense( the black turban guy) rest were all talibans!
actually the movies heard the young voice of the caller and thats why they are so willing to offer their "khidmat"
really embarrasing!! kamran shahid plz dont bring such people again only the scholar on the left made sense( the black turban guy) rest were all talibans!
Re: Front Line - 24th December 2010
Mr. Kamran Shahid this is your responsibility and you should remember that one day you will die and answerable to God. If any kind of misconception will be created in anybody's mind because of this show then you will surely be held responsible for that. I am saying this because you could have brought some sensible scholar of Islam, which are plenty and you brought these non serious people to discuss this sensitive issue. what message you conveyed to your viewer, what help you provided to the poor lady who contacted you to help her to tell the right thing. If some non muslim will see this program then what kind of impression he will get. I am very disappointed from you. Please play with everything but dont play with Islam, Quran and Hadith. this was a simple matter and you made it like fun show. you should be ashamed and ask forgiveness from Allah.
Mr. Kamran Shahid this is your responsibility and you should remember that one day you will die and answerable to God. If any kind of misconception will be created in anybody's mind because of this show then you will surely be held responsible for that. I am saying this because you could have brought some sensible scholar of Islam, which are plenty and you brought these non serious people to discuss this sensitive issue. what message you conveyed to your viewer, what help you provided to the poor lady who contacted you to help her to tell the right thing. If some non muslim will see this program then what kind of impression he will get. I am very disappointed from you. Please play with everything but dont play with Islam, Quran and Hadith. this was a simple matter and you made it like fun show. you should be ashamed and ask forgiveness from Allah.
itsnotme90
Minister (2k+ posts)
Re: Front Line - 24th December 2010
This is why people in europe got out of religion issue & not doing marriages any more coz they dont wanna break laws like molvi sahab said they broke law of pakistan. What if this couple declare we are not muslim any more so what would you do ? stone them to death. you cant pressurize people to follow religion until they wanna do themself otherwise there is no difference in taliban & us.
This is why people in europe got out of religion issue & not doing marriages any more coz they dont wanna break laws like molvi sahab said they broke law of pakistan. What if this couple declare we are not muslim any more so what would you do ? stone them to death. you cant pressurize people to follow religion until they wanna do themself otherwise there is no difference in taliban & us.
Re: Front Line - 24th December 2010
in ka kaam yahi he, khaas tor se Nawaz group waghera jitne bhi hen, in ko buri tarha manipulate kia gia he, saale har cheez me Islam ko ghusadete hen, it is not their fault
in ka kaam yahi he, khaas tor se Nawaz group waghera jitne bhi hen, in ko buri tarha manipulate kia gia he, saale har cheez me Islam ko ghusadete hen, it is not their fault
moazzamniaz
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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itsnotme90
Minister (2k+ posts)
subhanallah bahut shukria thats really clear now & thanks for posting that.
famamdani
Minister (2k+ posts)
SURA BAQRA AYT:228-240......................
SURA TALAQ AYT: 1-7.............................
AND SURA NISA COMPLETE ......................
This is realy very simple and usefull in every translation...........................it means we must understand QURAN AL FURQAN............................in best and verios translation......
Allah (SWA) hum ko samjhne or amal karne ki Himmat atta kare Ameen............................
SURA TALAQ AYT: 1-7.............................
AND SURA NISA COMPLETE ......................
This is realy very simple and usefull in every translation...........................it means we must understand QURAN AL FURQAN............................in best and verios translation......
Allah (SWA) hum ko samjhne or amal karne ki Himmat atta kare Ameen............................
shehreyar
MPA (400+ posts)
ya sach hay maien nay bhi quran maien ya para hay ,mujhay bahut afsus hayhamaray.bahut ulmahmolawi seat say tarqi kar kay ulmah banay hotay haien jo theak tarha hay quran pak kay tarjamay tafseer or ahadesko jantay tak nahi kahien say koi bat kahien say koiya jo barwin or giyarwin ka shosha hay maien nay kahien quran pak ya ahadees maien nahi para mager mulana hazrat nay hi banaya hay.tu bahi or bahno sab say acha or alah kam ya hay kay quran ko kudh tarjamay say parho,allah tala or us kay rasol nabiya karempbuh nay quran ko siraf yon hi parnay kay hukam nahi diya us ko samajh kay parnay ko kaha hay samjho gay tu tab na kay jab tum ko arbi ati ho gi ,ager nahi atitu tarjamay walay quran ksi liay banay haien tum log 3 3 gantay ki hollywood or bollywood ki bayhodah filmaien daykh saktay hon tu her roz quran pak ki eak eak aiyt tarjamay ka sath par lo tu tumhara hi faiydah hay ho sakata hay kay ya jo tum islam say bayzar or latalq ho tum ko hadaeyt hi mil jay .allah tala hum sab ko neaki rah pay rakhay or shitan mardod say bachay aamien
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QADIANITRUTH
Senator (1k+ posts)
Moazzamniaz
Thanks a lot for this video. I also looked up quarnic verses mentioned above by 'famamadani'.
Thanks to both of you, May Allah Tala reward you for sharing the knowledge.....
Islam is so practical and beautiful....May Allah show us the right path. ameen..
Thanks a lot for this video. I also looked up quarnic verses mentioned above by 'famamadani'.
Thanks to both of you, May Allah Tala reward you for sharing the knowledge.....
Islam is so practical and beautiful....May Allah show us the right path. ameen..
rajakhanmd
Senator (1k+ posts)
As per my knowledge, all the Imams of four Madhahib agree that if someone divorces his wife, 3 times in one setting, he has neglected the Quranic order and is sinful but the divorce is VALID. And there is a reason that these great scholars (who knew Quran e Pak, Ahadeeth and Islamic history more than Dr. Naik does ) came to this conclusion. And I am not a religious expert to comment on this any further but I guess if you follow one of the four Madhahib, its better to ask someone who has expertise on this issue.
Personally speaking, in ordinary Muslims, I have NEVER seen anyone going for another school of thought with the pure intention of opting a view that he or she considers as more strong on the basis of the evidence from Quran and Sunnah. Rather this switching is always to find a way out of something that they did and the only possible solution is to consult a scholar from a different school of thought who can ''UNDO'' what they have done.
About Halala:
'قال الله تعالى : ( فَإِنْ طَلَّقَهَا فَلا تَحِلُّ لَهُ مِنْ بَعْدُ حَتَّى تَنْكِحَ زَوْجاً غَيْرَهُ فَإِنْ طَلَّقَهَا فَلا جُنَاحَ عَلَيْهِمَا أَنْ يَتَرَاجَعَا إِنْ ظَنَّا أَنْ يُقِيمَا حُدُودَ اللَّهِ وَتِلْكَ حُدُودُ اللَّهِ يُبَيِّنُهَا لِقَوْمٍ يَعْلَمُونَ ) البقرة/230 .
“And if he has divorced her (the third time), then she is not lawful unto him thereafter until she has married another husband. Then, if the other husband divorces her, it is no sin on both of them that they reunite, provided they feel that they can keep the limits ordained by Allah. These are the limits of Allah, which He makes plain for the people who have knowledge”
[al-Baqarah 2:230].
There is no concept of PLANNED HALALA in Islam. Now what Rasule Allah sala Allahu Alehe wa salaam informed us about this situation.
Abu Dawood (2076) narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah has cursed the muhallil and the muhallal lahu.” This was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Sunan Abi Dawood.
The muhallil is the one who marries a woman and divorces her so that she can go back to her first husband, and the muhallal lahu is the first husband.
Ibn Majaah (1936) narrated from ‘Uqbah ibn ‘Aamir (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Shall I not tell you of a borrowed billy-goat.” They said, Yes, O Messenger of Allaah. He said, “He is al-muhallil. May Allaah curse al-muhallil and al-muhallal lahu.” Classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan Ibn Maajah.
Imam Ahmad was asked about a man who married a woman intending thereby in his heart to make her permissible for her first husband, but the woman did not know about that. He said: He is a muhallil, and if he intends thereby to make her permissible for her first husband, then he is cursed.
-Haakim narrated from Naafi’ that a man said to Ibn ‘Umar: I married a woman and made her permissible for her first husband, and he did not tell me to do that and he did not know. He said: No, marriage should be based on genuine intentions; if you like her then keep her, and if you do not like her then leave her. He said: At the time of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) we would regard that as zina. And he said: They will still be adulterers, even if they remain for twenty years.
-Temporary marriage (mut’ah marriage) or marriage for the purpose of making her permissible for her first husband then divorcing her (tahleel marriage) are both haraam and invalid according to the vast majority of scholars, and it does not make the woman permissible for her first husband.
See: al-Mughni (10/49-55).
-Abd al-Razzaaq (6/2650 narrated that ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him) said whilst addressing the people: “By Allaah, no muhallil or muhallal lahu will be brought to me but I will stone them.”
May ALLAH SWT keep us on the straight path and protect us from any difficult situation.
Personally speaking, in ordinary Muslims, I have NEVER seen anyone going for another school of thought with the pure intention of opting a view that he or she considers as more strong on the basis of the evidence from Quran and Sunnah. Rather this switching is always to find a way out of something that they did and the only possible solution is to consult a scholar from a different school of thought who can ''UNDO'' what they have done.
About Halala:
'قال الله تعالى : ( فَإِنْ طَلَّقَهَا فَلا تَحِلُّ لَهُ مِنْ بَعْدُ حَتَّى تَنْكِحَ زَوْجاً غَيْرَهُ فَإِنْ طَلَّقَهَا فَلا جُنَاحَ عَلَيْهِمَا أَنْ يَتَرَاجَعَا إِنْ ظَنَّا أَنْ يُقِيمَا حُدُودَ اللَّهِ وَتِلْكَ حُدُودُ اللَّهِ يُبَيِّنُهَا لِقَوْمٍ يَعْلَمُونَ ) البقرة/230 .
“And if he has divorced her (the third time), then she is not lawful unto him thereafter until she has married another husband. Then, if the other husband divorces her, it is no sin on both of them that they reunite, provided they feel that they can keep the limits ordained by Allah. These are the limits of Allah, which He makes plain for the people who have knowledge”
[al-Baqarah 2:230].
There is no concept of PLANNED HALALA in Islam. Now what Rasule Allah sala Allahu Alehe wa salaam informed us about this situation.
Abu Dawood (2076) narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah has cursed the muhallil and the muhallal lahu.” This was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Sunan Abi Dawood.
The muhallil is the one who marries a woman and divorces her so that she can go back to her first husband, and the muhallal lahu is the first husband.
Ibn Majaah (1936) narrated from ‘Uqbah ibn ‘Aamir (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Shall I not tell you of a borrowed billy-goat.” They said, Yes, O Messenger of Allaah. He said, “He is al-muhallil. May Allaah curse al-muhallil and al-muhallal lahu.” Classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan Ibn Maajah.
Imam Ahmad was asked about a man who married a woman intending thereby in his heart to make her permissible for her first husband, but the woman did not know about that. He said: He is a muhallil, and if he intends thereby to make her permissible for her first husband, then he is cursed.
-Haakim narrated from Naafi’ that a man said to Ibn ‘Umar: I married a woman and made her permissible for her first husband, and he did not tell me to do that and he did not know. He said: No, marriage should be based on genuine intentions; if you like her then keep her, and if you do not like her then leave her. He said: At the time of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) we would regard that as zina. And he said: They will still be adulterers, even if they remain for twenty years.
-Temporary marriage (mut’ah marriage) or marriage for the purpose of making her permissible for her first husband then divorcing her (tahleel marriage) are both haraam and invalid according to the vast majority of scholars, and it does not make the woman permissible for her first husband.
See: al-Mughni (10/49-55).
-Abd al-Razzaaq (6/2650 narrated that ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him) said whilst addressing the people: “By Allaah, no muhallil or muhallal lahu will be brought to me but I will stone them.”
May ALLAH SWT keep us on the straight path and protect us from any difficult situation.
There are few questions which bother anyone or everyone, but if we read quran carefully without any Madhahib or Dr. Naik, then
perhaps this matter will be crystal clear. The questions are:
a) How many times, one has to pronounce the Talaaq;
b) if pronounced thrice or more than thrice or less than thrice; will it be one divorce,
of three divorces;
c) What if Talaq is given in Anger;
Each and Everything has been explained in Quran itself. People just wish to get short-cut
and go towards what Madhahab or Dr. Naik says, but do not bother to check themselves Quran.
