For sake of peace change in attitude and top leadership of Iran and Saudia needed .

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
Syrian conflict is most unfortunate and will certainly lead to mega war not more low grade insurgency
It has been almost more than two decades that Iran is underKhamenei its supreme leader who is powerful enough to have thrown out AhmedNejad the educated chap president of Iran from power even before his term ended. He did not let Rafsajani even stand for elections and calls the shots in Iran.

King Abdullah has been head of this or that in Saudia since 1962.


Syria is perhaps the fourth country after Iraq, Afghanistanand Lebanon where efforts of these two lobbies in support of one or the other party haveled to country's full or partial destruction .


Syria is a Sunni majority country but large scale refugeeissue means that it is on the way to a demographic change permanently ifinternational community does not step in. It is so unfortunate that Assad Regimeis bombarding its own country even Damascus which means that its populace doesnot want him . He and his father have already ruled this country since 1970 andbelong to a sect unknown to Pakistanis called Alawites.This offcourse is an unofficial monarchy of the minority sect .


The role of Iran and Khamenei in Syria conflict is notrespectable at all . Instead of helping both sides to the conflict for a truce, Hizbollah and Iranian revolutionary guards have involved themselves in aserious conflict with claims of atrocities on their part by local populace .

It is not good for Iranian religious leadership to involveitself so intimately with a regime whose standing in trial in Hague for crimesagainst humanity is just a matter of time. If Syria battle enlarges thenIranian Islamic revolution itself might get threatened as this is going to be amega war and Iran is no match for Turkey and Saudia combined .

Mullahs of both sides , be it Saudia and Iran both live in apast world and there is nothing which give Iranian Mullahs or Khameeni any airof modernity or acceptability if they keep on destroying country after countryon trivial power sharing issues.
What is most shocking is that Bashara Assad who has a Sunniwife and who is a UK educated doctor would involve himself with such a sillyand bloody struggle and become an instrument of mullahs of Iran despite beingeducated .

Where is OIC , cannot it save the people of Syria . ShouldPakistan not condemn Gas attack in Damascus . There is no way that Pakistan canescape larger war , it must either mediate or decide which side it will takebut best is to mediate for benefit of all . That is always beneficial for all . This looming war is not Iraq Iran war where Pakistan will be able to keep aloof from as a war in Afghanistan is also in card and Iran as usual is on the other side and our Baluchistan is not quiet too . We Pakistanis have a stake in getting peace in Syria rather than get Sunni -Shia Mega clash to erupt . Both saudia and Iran have access to nuclear material . Soviets in guise of friends of Iran will love to get Strait of Hormuz closed by radioactivity for example as that will make them sole source of oil for Europe and also remove Muslim threat due to collapse of Muslim finance in that case . Iran definitely needs a new supreme leader to guide it to peace for itself and others . A change in Saudia to a younger leadership is also needed .



 
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ambroxo

Minister (2k+ posts)
جس دن سورج مغرب سے نکلے گا اس دن سے سعودی شیخ اور ایرانی ملوٹے ایک دوسرے کے خلاف جنگ بند کر دیں گے

 

TONIC

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Keep dreaming....sometimes dream do come true....

Unfortunately we Muslims are worst enemies of ourselves.
 

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
shaikh said:
Syrian conflict is most unfortunate and will certainly lead to mega war not more low grade insurgency
It has been almost more than two decades that Iran is underKhamenei its supreme leader who is powerful enough to have thrown out AhmedNejad the educated chap president of Iran from power even before his term ended. He did not let Rafsajani even stand for elections and calls the shots in Iran.

King Abdullah has been head of this or that in Saudia since 1962.


Syria is perhaps the fourth country after Iraq, Afghanistanand Lebanon where efforts of these two lobbies in support of one or the other party haveled to country's full or partial destruction .


Syria is a Sunni majority country but large scale refugeeissue means that it is on the way to a demographic change permanently ifinternational community does not step in. It is so unfortunate that Assad Regimeis bombarding its own country even Damascus which means that its populace doesnot want him . He and his father have already ruled this country since 1970 andbelong to a sect unknown to Pakistanis called Alawites.This offcourse is an unofficial monarchy of the minority sect .


The role of Iran and Khamenei in Syria conflict is notrespectable at all . Instead of helping both sides to the conflict for a truce, Hizbollah and Iranian revolutionary guards have involved themselves in aserious conflict with claims of atrocities on their part by local populace .

It is not good for Iranian religious leadership to involveitself so intimately with a regime whose standing in trial in Hague for crimesagainst humanity is just a matter of time. If Syria battle enlarges thenIranian Islamic revolution itself might get threatened as this is going to be amega war and Iran is no match for Turkey and Saudia combined .

Mullahs of both sides , be it Saudia and Iran both live in apast world and there is nothing which give Iranian Mullahs or Khameeni any airof modernity or acceptability if they keep on destroying country after countryon trivial power sharing issues.
What is most shocking is that Bashara Assad who has a Sunniwife and who is a UK educated doctor would involve himself with such a sillyand bloody struggle and become an instrument of mullahs of Iran despite beingeducated .

Where is OIC , cannot it save the people of Syria . ShouldPakistan not condemn Gas attack in Damascus . There is no way that Pakistan canescape larger war , it must either mediate or decide which side it will takebut best is to mediate for benefit of all . That is always beneficial for all . This looming war is not Iraq Iran war where Pakistan will be able to keep aloof from as a war in Afghanistan is also in card and Iran as usual is on the other side and our Baluchistan is not quiet too . We Pakistanis have a stake in getting peace in Syria rather than get Sunni -Shia Mega clash to erupt . Both saudia and Iran have access to nuclear material . Soviets in guise of friends of Iran will love to get Strait of Hormuz closed by radioactivity for example as that will make them sole source of oil for Europe and also remove Muslim threat due to collapse of Muslim finance in that case . Iran definitely needs a new supreme leader to guide it to peace for itself and others . A change in Saudia to a younger leadership is also needed .

Good positive thinking but the fact remains that OIC is only a toothless, good for nothing feel good organization.

Pakistan should stay out of this conflict as much as it can and focus on mending our own issues. Some of those issues arose because we allowed these two instigators fight a proxy war on our soil.

People don't realize it but this is not a sectarian conflict in the stricter sense rather a war for economic hegemony and prolonging the monarchy in Saudi Arabia and mullahcracy in Iran. The moves by these regimes, which has only hurt and weakened the countries in the region, are only to safeguard their larger interests. The rulers in Saudi Arabia or Iran would not even care about the suffering or oppression of people belonging to their own sect as long as it serves their interests.

Muslims can blame everyone else and their mother-in-law for our problems but the fact remains that we are squarely to be blamed for everything we are inflicted with. In the face of a crisis we are always overly emotional, irrational, immature and impatient and can never get out of the reactive mode. Our approach is never proactive or deliberative which could avert a lot of these crises that we face today.

This is not to say that there are no external forces that are ready to take advantage of our weaknesses and divisions but if we don't provide them an opening to meddle then things would not get this bad.
 
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shafi3859

Minister (2k+ posts)
یک بہت بڑی غلط فہمی جس کی حقیقت جاننا ضروری ہے ، وہ یہ کہ کہا جا رہا ہے کہ امریکہ شام پر حملہ مجاہدین کی مدد کے لئے کر رہا ہے تاکہ اسد سے چھٹکارا حاصل ہو سکے
لیکن
سچ یہ ہے کہ مجاہدین نے پہلے ہی 80 فیصد شام پر سے اسد کا کنٹرول ختم کر دیا ہے ، امریکہ کو پتا چل چکا ہے کہ اسد کے آخری لمحات چل رہے ہیں
اس لئے وہ چاہتا ہے کہ اسد کے بعد ملک شام پر کہیں مجاہدین کی حکومت نہ قائم ہو جائے ، اس لئے وہ سارا کریڈٹ خود لیکر ، شام کا کنٹرول اپنے ہاتھوں میں لینا چاہتا ہے
 

Ahud1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
WA MAKARU WA MAKARALLAH WALLAHU KHAIRUL MAKIREEN" : They plan and ALLAH plan and ALLAH is the Best Planner" "

i believe in this and waiting for renaissance
i dont have any hope from any muslim or any human all are flop now only this Aya is pushing me to wait for HIS plan to rise again


 

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
My view is that if top leadership of Saudia and Mr. Khemenei is asked to formally resign on a massive scale in social media , they will patch up their differences and prolonged war shall be averted. Hence a case for ouster of not only Bishara Asad but also Hizbollah chief and Ayatollah Khemenei also need to be there on the table . If such a threat is not the table then another two or three countries and their populations will be destroyed in coming years . The landing of older Mr. Khomeni himself from none other than Paris did raise eyebrows as to what is he going to do which France supports afterall what was the reason for French to prefer Khomeni to Shah of Iran the best western agent . If there were no secret alliance between Iran and USA why would US hand over saddam to pro iran Muqtada al Sadr. If there was no nexus between Iran and US in Afghanistan how would overnight uniform for coalition forces be sewn in Iran after 9/11 in 2001. It seems that US apportioned Morsi and Hamas to Iran and PLO to Arabia . Then there is something called Qatari politics which is another Bizarre item.
 

khan afghan1

Minister (2k+ posts)
Two things are the sign of hate in the west these days 1.Pakistani and 2.Muslim.
people stop talking to you when you say that I m Pakistani and Muslim.
Its not because these are bad names but because our politicians and religious leadership
are the most corrupt all over the world and the people representing the Muslim faith
and Pakistan in th west specially in the UK has a very bad name and reputation in that
society.we need to change our attitude and behavior and should follow and teach a true
spirit of Islam.
 

sanu key

MPA (400+ posts)
یک بہت بڑی غلط فہمی جس کی حقیقت جاننا ضروری ہے ، وہ یہ کہ کہا جا رہا ہے کہ امریکہ شام پر حملہ مجاہدین کی مدد کے لئے کر رہا ہے تاکہ اسد سے چھٹکارا حاصل ہو سکے
لیکن
سچ یہ ہے کہ مجاہدین نے پہلے ہی 80 فیصد شام پر سے اسد کا کنٹرول ختم کر دیا ہے ، امریکہ کو پتا چل چکا ہے کہ اسد کے آخری لمحات چل رہے ہیں
اس لئے وہ چاہتا ہے کہ اسد کے بعد ملک شام پر کہیں مجاہدین کی حکومت نہ قائم ہو جائے ، اس لئے وہ سارا کریڈٹ خود لیکر ، شام کا کنٹرول اپنے ہاتھوں میں لینا چاہتا ہے

YEH AAKHRI LAMHAT LAST ONE YEARS SAAY AARA HAY HAIN ,,,, (bigsmile)
 

Mehrushka

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Naah. Its all a conspiracy. We muslims love each other so much. :P hahahaha.

true sab se zyada mohabbat saudis kerti hai muslims se
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shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
Two events have changed the opinion of Sunni Muslims recently . Firstly the support to Syria's Assad by Hizbollah and Iranian National guard by Iran has been found very objectionable. Afterall what is the legitimacy of Assad and his minority Alawite regime over an Arab Sunni majority , votes they are not and this is not 1970 its is 2013 now the time of twitter and facebook. Secondly the support given by Saudia to Egyptian military despite their murder of Akhwan Muslimeen has removed the crown of Sunni king from the head of King Abudullah. Iran is in real trouble and so is Saudi top leadership . If any serious war breaks in middleeast roll back of Iranian influence from Syria , and Iraq is a certainty. Iranian mullah leadership of Iran itself will be in doubt . It is best for King Abdullah to Abdicate on account of age and it is best for Iranians to chose a modern man instead of Khemenei if they want to have future .