Finally, the Wolves Turn on Each Other: The Army Mafia Unravelling Fast

GuyFawkes

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
If you're not a bumbling idiot and understand the need to view politics and strategies through a broader lens, you'd already know that the unraveling of the Napak Army has been accelerating over the past two years. With each step forward, the Army's entire setup slips ten steps back, not because of PTI or any external force, but due to their own actions.

From the Cypher saga to the cypher case, from attacks on Khan to his arrest, from the Toshakhana scandal to the Iddat case, from the May 9 drama to the delay in elections, from the Form 47 fiasco to their failure in international relations, they've been defeated in the most humiliating way, in the eyes of the nation.

It's astonishing that they never learn, but we must remember we're dealing with egomaniacs with barely a passing education, devoid of any real reasoning power.

Now, it seems things are coming to a head. With the arrest of Faiz Hameed, they're airing their own dirty laundry, and I predict this will be another colossal fiasco.

In fact, I believe this Gen. Faiz arrest debacle will be one of the last nails in the coffin for the Pakistani Army mafia. I'm certain it will create a drama that will bring a swift end to the General Mafia much sooner now.
 
If you're not a bumbling idiot and understand the need to view politics and strategies through a broader lens, you'd already know that the unraveling of the Napak Army has been accelerating over the past two years. With each step forward, the Army's entire setup slips ten steps back, not because of PTI or any external force, but due to their own actions.

From the Cypher saga to the cypher case, from attacks on Khan to his arrest, from the Toshakhana scandal to the Iddat case, from the May 9 drama to the delay in elections, from the Form 47 fiasco to their failure in international relations, they've been defeated in the most humiliating way, in the eyes of the nation.

It's astonishing that they never learn, but we must remember we're dealing with egomaniacs with barely a passing education, devoid of any real reasoning power.

Now, it seems things are coming to a head. With the arrest of Faiz Hameed, they're airing their own dirty laundry, and I predict this will be another colossal fiasco.

In fact, I believe this Gen. Faiz arrest debacle will be one of the last nails in the coffin for the Pakistani Army mafia. I'm certain it will create a drama that will bring a swift end to the General Mafia much sooner now.
They are jackals
If you're not a bumbling idiot and understand the need to view politics and strategies through a broader lens, you'd already know that the unraveling of the Napak Army has been accelerating over the past two years. With each step forward, the Army's entire setup slips ten steps back, not because of PTI or any external force, but due to their own actions.

From the Cypher saga to the cypher case, from attacks on Khan to his arrest, from the Toshakhana scandal to the Iddat case, from the May 9 drama to the delay in elections, from the Form 47 fiasco to their failure in international relations, they've been defeated in the most humiliating way, in the eyes of the nation.

It's astonishing that they never learn, but we must remember we're dealing with egomaniacs with barely a passing education, devoid of any real reasoning power.

Now, it seems things are coming to a head. With the arrest of Faiz Hameed, they're airing their own dirty laundry, and I predict this will be another colossal fiasco.

In fact, I believe this Gen. Faiz arrest debacle will be one of the last nails in the coffin for the Pakistani Army mafia. I'm certain it will create a drama that will bring a swift end to the General Mafia much sooner now.
They are Jackals not wolves wolves are the best animals
 

Melanthus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Gen. Faiz arrested
the last hope of PM IK
Gen Faiz was not a favourite of Imran.The only reason Imran wanted him to stay as DG ISI for the sake of continuity.After America hastily withdrew from Afghanistan it was better to keep Gen Faiz as DG because he had interacted with Taliban leadership and he was in a good position to deal with the Taliban.PTI’s hopes are with the people who slapped PPP,PMLN and the generals on their faces and gave PTI a majority in February elections.The generals rigged the elections to change results but the whole world knows PTI got a majority.
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Gen Faiz was not a favourite of Imran.The only reason Imran wanted him to stay as DG ISI for the sake of continuity.After America hastily withdrew from Afghanistan it was better to keep Gen Faiz as DG because he had interacted with Taliban leadership and he was in a good position to deal with the Taliban.PTI’s hopes are with the people who slapped PPP,PMLN and the generals on their faces and gave PTI a majority in February elections.The generals rigged the elections to change results but the whole world knows PTI got a majority.
Was Pasha the favorite?
 

ranaji

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
دونوں فلمیں اچھی تھیں ویسے پیٹر اوٹول تو پاکستانی جرنیلوں سے اچھا ایکٹر تھا
 

Melanthus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Was Pasha the favorite?
No one was favourite.PTI became a powerful force due to change in demographics,social media and growth in middle class.For the first time people in villages can access information.They don’t have to rely on state controlled or pro state media.This is a process of political evolution.It has happened in other countries.ISI created IPP but it was a failure.Recently many prominent lawyers joined PTI.Why didn’t they join PML?.I know in India the army doesn’t meddle in politics as much as Pakistan but BJP won one seat in it’s first election.It won three seats in the next.Now it is the biggest party in India.
 

ranaji

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
اگر آپ کو کبھی امریکہ کے ویزے کے لیے ایمبیسی جانے کا اتفاق ہوا ہو تو آپ نے ضرور نوٹ کیا ہو گا کہ بڑے بڑے متمول اور ویل سیٹلڈ لوگوں کی ویزہ درخواست ایک آن میں ریجیکٹ ہو جاتی ہے۔ بندہ سوچتا ہے کہ معلوم نہیں کیسے سخت معیارات ہیں جن سے گزر کر بہت ہی غیر معمولی افراد کو امریکہ کا ویزہ ملتا ہے۔ لیکن جب آپ امریکہ پہنچتے ہیں تو حیران رہ جاتے ہیں، ایک سے ایک تلنگا وہاں موجود پاتے ہیں۔ آپ بے اختیار خود سے سوال پوچھتے ہیں کہ اگر ویزے کا پراسیس ایسا ہی سخت ہے تو انہیں ویزا کس نے جاری کر دیا ؟؟؟

کچھ ایسی ہی کیفیت وزیرِ دفاع خواجہ اصف صاحب کے جنرل باجوہ اور جنرل فیض کے متعلق انکشافات جان کر ہوئی۔ کیسے کیسے قابل افسر بھی میجر کرنل اور بریکیڈیر سے آگے نہیں جا پاتے،
اور بندہ سوچتا ہے کہ معلوم نہیں کتنی باریک چھلنی ہے
جس سے گزر کے لوگ جنرل بنتے ہیں۔ اب تو لگتا ہے یہاں بھی معاملہ امریکہ کے ویزے والا ہی ہے !
ویلڈن جرنیلو
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If you're not a bumbling idiot and understand the need to view politics and strategies through a broader lens, you'd already know that the unraveling of the Napak Army has been accelerating over the past two years. With each step forward, the Army's entire setup slips ten steps back, not because of PTI or any external force, but due to their own actions.

From the Cypher saga to the cypher case, from attacks on Khan to his arrest, from the Toshakhana scandal to the Iddat case, from the May 9 drama to the delay in elections, from the Form 47 fiasco to their failure in international relations, they've been defeated in the most humiliating way, in the eyes of the nation.

It's astonishing that they never learn, but we must remember we're dealing with egomaniacs with barely a passing education, devoid of any real reasoning power.

Now, it seems things are coming to a head. With the arrest of Faiz Hameed, they're airing their own dirty laundry, and I predict this will be another colossal fiasco.

In fact, I believe this Gen. Faiz arrest debacle will be one of the last nails in the coffin for the Pakistani Army mafia. I'm certain it will create a drama that will bring a swift end to the General Mafia much sooner now.
Writing in big font doesn't prove the argument right. Pakistani army stood solidly behind the defense of the country. Generals come and go. It is the soldiers who are fighting and defending the country and those are the one you seem to be attacking.
Gen Faiz ,G Bajwa ,Gen Pasha were all IK's favorites one time or others. And that is not really a problem. The problem is that the offshoots of IK's supporters always start a campaign to hate and disdain against his opponents every time Ik open his mouth.

This is Pakistan army, and this is our country. We can't throw away the baby with towel. You go and sell your beans somewhere else.
 

GuyFawkes

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
No one was favourite.PTI became a powerful force due to change in demographics,social media and growth in middle class.For the first time people in villages can access information.They don’t have to rely on state controlled or pro state media.This is a process of political evolution.It has happened in other countries.ISI created IPP but it was a failure.Recently many prominent lawyers joined PTI.Why didn’t they join PML?.I know in India the army doesn’t meddle in politics as much as Pakistan but BJP won one seat in it’s first election.It won three seats in the next.Now it is the biggest party in India.
Don't worry about these narrow-minded morons—they lack any self-reflection. Their only job is to spread hatred against IK, and they're failing miserably at it.

The point of my post was to highlight that they've tried countless tactics so far, but I feel that now they're resorting to something that will ultimately be their swift downfall from within. You have to understand that the Army mafia has always been insulated from outside threats because they protect their own, even if they're retired. They've always done this, even Yahya was given 'due' respect. But for the first time, they're turning against one of their own, a military general. This move will completely undermine the confidence within the mafia's internal ranks, showing that no one is safe from being a scapegoat if the top guy decides it's necessary. This will start to widen the cracks that already exist. How serious will be the blowback from within, we don't know, but it is due to create serious apprehensions.
 

GuyFawkes

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Writing in big font doesn't prove the argument right. Pakistani army stood solidly behind the defense of the country. Generals come and go. It is the soldiers who are fighting and defending the country and those are the one you seem to be attacking.
Gen Faiz ,G Bajwa ,Gen Pasha were all IK's favorites one time or others. And that is not really a problem. The problem is that the offshoots of IK's supporters always start a campaign to hate and disdain against his opponents every time Ik open his mouth.

This is Pakistan army, and this is our country. We can't throw away the baby with towel. You go and sell your beans somewhere else.
That's a ridiculous argument ,no one buys into that romanticized nonsense anymore. 90% of the nation knows that the real source of our misery and pain is the army. Any doubts that it was the politicians have been erased. PMLN, PPP, and the like are just pawns in this game. The issue isn't whether IK becomes PM or whether PTI comes to power ,what's clear is that the Army is the biggest loser in all of this. Anyone who thinks that the Napak mafia will emerge from this with any popularity is just fooling themselves. Shenanigans like this will only accelerate their downfall.
 

Wake up Pak

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Imran Khan is in trouble!
During the search, a map of the secret tunnels under the Adiala Jail was found in Faiz Hameed's pocket. Special materials were being delivered to Imran Khan through these tunnels.
😂 🤣
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
That's a ridiculous argument ,no one buys into that romanticized nonsense anymore. 90% of the nation knows that the real source of our misery and pain is the army. Any doubts that it was the politicians have been erased. PMLN, PPP, and the like are just pawns in this game. The issue isn't whether IK becomes PM or whether PTI comes to power ,what's clear is that the Army is the biggest loser in all of this. Anyone who thinks that the Napak mafia will emerge from this with any popularity is just fooling themselves. Shenanigans like this will only accelerate their downfall.
100% of the population reject you rant against the Pak army. And that is not just words but the facts. Generals are the pests no question about it, but Politicians are the worst who go and make late night deals with generals to get power and like to sit on the laps of generals.
Who is the founder of Pakistani Constitution? And why do they have a provision in Constitution to allow army the power and made them a sacred cow that no one can criticize it or the Judiciary in general that holds tremendous power over every other institution.
Off course, the army generals took advantage of these lapses from Politicians and used those provisions to solidify their grip on power once they overthrow the civilian rule. And also tell me who celebrate the army generals' martial law once the topple the civilian rule. The same politicians who hold the night long meetings with generals sitting in opposition benches.

It is nice and dandy to sit on the end of Bajwa's long stick when in power but dislike the tip of his stick when in opposition.
 

Melanthus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
100% of the population reject you rant against the Pak army. And that is not just words but the facts. Generals are the pests no question about it, but Politicians are the worst who go and make late night deals with generals to get power and like to sit on the laps of generals.
Who is the founder of Pakistani Constitution? And why do they have a provision in Constitution to allow army the power and made them a sacred cow that no one can criticize it or the Judiciary in general that holds tremendous power over every other institution.
Off course, the army generals took advantage of these lapses from Politicians and used those provisions to solidify their grip on power once they overthrow the civilian rule. And also tell me who celebrate the army generals' martial law once the topple the civilian rule. The same politicians who hold the night long meetings with generals sitting in opposition benches.

It is nice and dandy to sit on the end of Bajwa's long stick when in power but dislike the tip of his stick when in opposition.
You are wrong.The generals are the problem.They have made Pakistan a military state.They control everything in Pakistan.Foreign policy,defence,economy,media and courts are run by them.They are the biggest land owners in Pakistan.They own 12% of land.They are involved in drug,petrol and alcohol smuggling.They buy properties and businesses abroad from stolen money.
You should read this book
Military Inc :Inside Pakistan’s Military Economy
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You are wrong.The generals are the problem.They have made Pakistan a military state.They control everything in Pakistan.Foreign policy,defence,economy,media and courts are run by them.They are the biggest land owners in Pakistan.They own 12% of land.They are involved in drug,petrol and alcohol smuggling.They buy properties and businesses abroad from stolen money.
You should read this book
Military Inc :Inside Pakistan’s Military Economy
How are you going to change them? When your leader sits on their laps.
 

Melanthus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
How are you going to change them? When your leader sits on their laps.
If he sits in their laps then why did they put him in jail on trumped up charges?.Showbaz is the one who polishes their boots.He admitted this himself.He has been polishing boots for 30 years.Khoja Asif is another one has admitted phone Bajwa to get his seat back.Khoja was meeting Bajwa in 2019.They were plotting against PTI government.PTI was a new party.It was in power for the first time.The generals backstabbed PTI but in a way it is good because the generals have been exposed.They have lost support and good will of the people.
 

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