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binmahmood

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If you have the brain and if you can remember, N Sharif wanted to contest election from NA 100 or 123 in 2009 but Musharaf put a complaint to Sadia about the agreement. After that Saudia's Ambassador met N Sharif and reminded him the (10 years) Agreement, then he didn't take part in then Election. This agreement finishes in December and PML (N) start demand for Mid Term Election.

If it was not then case then Why N Sharif didn't take part in General or By-Elections?


I remember Imran boycotted some elections. Please correct me if I am wrong. Well, you might be true, but honestly speaking, do you believe in decisions based on gun points? Do you solemnly think the treaty was so negative that NS should not be allowed to enter in politics, even if he is coming with good intentions?

Now, let us try to think upon this. When I call IK a zaani, you say Allah must have forgiven him. What about NS? Can't he ask for forgiveness about his sins? Can't he become righteous now?

Remember, personally I like IK, but I have a strong objection on his team. I prefer NS because at the moment I just feel that he is going in a good direction. The way he is governing Punjab, it seems perfect (only if you see it without prejudice).

I feel you were born with a sour mouth, that's why you are found to talk like "jahil", "brainless" n blah blah blah. I repeat, as I have done it before, don't argue if you don't know how to.... Calling others like that won't make your point. Convince me, logically and have another vote for PTI, rather then making the fact bold and underlined that IK was once a Zaani and he must not be permitted to be head of Islamic State.
 

binmahmood

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You don't know any Sharia Mr. You are a Jahil person who knows nothing but Cursing. What can one except from a Jahil Person other than Cursing and Baseless Blames.


Neither do you, I should state here. If you think calling others as Jahil will make you feel literate, you are an egoist then :)

Who is cursing others, who is calling others with names, who is behaving illiterate here.. everything is crystal clear. The Shariah I follow asks me to be kind with animals. What you follow shows your high profiles stoning animals (again, reference can be provided on demand). Let us avoid sectarian issues. I don't believe in Sihah Sitta you trying to thrust upon me. We have different standards of Shariah so I advise you stop talking about Shariah thing. Best wishes for PTI (only if you guys arrange a good team rather then one man show).
 

binmahmood

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@Binmahmood

Post # 52, 56 and 57 have hit you on your spot............have some ICE on that place..........LOL

U can't deny this fact Mr Jahil

Thank you very much, should I try to memorize about Pigs in your relationships? Samajh to tum gai ho gai :D
 

binmahmood

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We (the PTI members ) also know N Sharif has changed. How much he has changed, we know. We have eye and brain. He worked for Judiciary because that was very hot issue of the time and was against Musharaf as well. But don't forget, PML (N) took the advantage of that fight as well by wining Election in Punjab and after that got restore his govt. as well.

If N Sharif or PML (N) is doing very good politics, then I will ask you few questions.

1. What is the Stance of your party on drone attacks or did he ever oppose strongly against drone attacks.

2. Did he participated in any rely for Aafia Sidiqqui?

3. Did he take any stand on Corruption issues of the Federal Govt.( Stand not just statements)

4. Did he take any stand againt the hight prices of Sugar, Petroleum or Electricity or any thing else?

His politics is changed only towards Army Establishment (though he is the creation of Army Establishment) otherwise he has a hidden deal with PPP is that PPP should Loot the country on Federal Level and PML (N) should do the same at provincial level and Awam should go to HELL.


1. They oppose drones badly.

http://www.pmln.org/media/nd_270_govt-taking-steps-against-terrorism,-says-shahbaz.pmln

2. If you think rely is the only way to be for Afia, I feel you wrong. If one condemns it publicly, people like you should trust him. Take it as a gift.

http://waitingforjustice.com/waitin...azmeetsaafiasis&catid=16:curentnews&Itemid=52

3. Imran Khan boycotted elections once. Then he realized about the importance to have a seat. In the same way, Nawaz was offered and yet he refused to be part of Federal Cabinet. I think it's still better then beating the hollow drums like IK. He left federal cabinet, he publicly speaks against Federal corruption, he is still acting as opposition. If you don't think its enough, you can really guide us about what should be done - Seriously.

http://geo.tv/11-9-2010/74099.htm

4. I repeat, what do YOU want to be done in this regard? He has no control over Federal Government. Had he has some, he would have kicked Taseer and Babar Awan at first. Take it, again, as a serious response to your question:

http://www.pmln.org/media/nd_286_pml-n-reaction-to-sugar-price-hike.pmln
 

binmahmood

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By the way, Pujab government alerted about Sugar issue months ago. You must know that and appreciate that if you are true by heart. Hypocrites are, however, not asked to do so.
 

PTI_Lover

MPA (400+ posts)
Tum jaisai bewaqufoan k liai sirf itna hi k Imran Khan ko 100 zindagyaan aur bhi mil jain to wo kabhi Legal tareeqai se power main nahi asakta.. Ye sochna tumhara kaam hai k aisa q hai, but think realistically....

By the way, Nanga ZINA kernai wala hota hai.. pata hai na??? so PTI is proven to be bare in this regard.... Nawaz is yet to be proved for being guilty of some Sita White....

well, this is not the answer, my question is how can u justify the attack on supreme court?

and in one post you are saying that Tahira sayed ka ashiq e namuraad abb change ho chuka hai, ok, farz karo k hum maan lein wo change ho gya tu atleast itni mardangii tu dikhyaae k apni ghalti tasleem karray, change honay ka matlab wo pehle ghalat thaa ab sahi ho gya tu pehli ghalti tu tasleem karray ? qom se maafi tu mangay, lekin itni mardangi nahi hai in logo mein, in se achha tu musharraf nikla jo at least qom se ghalti ki maafi tu mangta hai lekin nangi league mein itni himmat hai aur na hit itni mardangi
 

binmahmood

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well, this is not the answer, my question is how can u justify the attack on supreme court?

and in one post you are saying that Tahira sayed ka ashiq e namuraad abb change ho chuka hai, ok, farz karo k hum maan lein wo change ho gya tu atleast itni mardangii tu dikhyaae k apni ghalti tasleem karray, change honay ka matlab wo pehle ghalat thaa ab sahi ho gya tu pehli ghalti tu tasleem karray ? qom se maafi tu mangay, lekin itni mardangi nahi hai in logo mein, in se achha tu musharraf nikla jo at least qom se ghalti ki maafi tu mangta hai lekin nangi league mein itni himmat hai aur na hit itni mardangi


Well, trust me I do condemn attack on Supreme Court by PMLN followers, and I do it with an open heart, so whats the problem in it? What if they are reluctant of what they have done?

You making it an ego problem, I am not. I am declaring the wrong deeds by Nawaz. As far as Tahira Syed issue is concerned, we still have to wait for something solid as Sita White, don't we?
 

binmahmood

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well, this is not the answer, my question is how can u justify the attack on supreme court?

and in one post you are saying that Tahira sayed ka ashiq e namuraad abb change ho chuka hai, ok, farz karo k hum maan lein wo change ho gya tu atleast itni mardangii tu dikhyaae k apni ghalti tasleem karray, change honay ka matlab wo pehle ghalat thaa ab sahi ho gya tu pehli ghalti tu tasleem karray ? qom se maafi tu mangay, lekin itni mardangi nahi hai in logo mein, in se achha tu musharraf nikla jo at least qom se ghalti ki maafi tu mangta hai lekin nangi league mein itni himmat hai aur na hit itni mardangi

By the way, Nangi league ya Pakistan Tehreek e Nanga pan :)
Please look before you leap :D I told you nanga koan hota hai, wo jo Zina kerta hai aur outcome public main ajata hai. Yar jab tumhain pata hai k IK ka maazi aisa hai to doosroan k maazi pe q sawal uthaatay ho, specially uss case main jab doosrai k pas Sita White jaisa anmol karnama bhi mojood na ho??

Bhai, agar aap ye kaho k Nawaz corrupt hai to baat ki ja skti hai, agar aap kaho k Nawaz chor hai to bhi ham discuss ker sktai hain, laikin jab Nangi league jaisai alfaz use kero gai to yaqeen kero mere zehn main to Imran Khan hi aai ga, na chahtay huay bhi, jis ka scandal proven hai....
 

PTI_Lover

MPA (400+ posts)
By the way, Nangi league ya Pakistan Tehreek e Nanga pan :)
Please look before you leap :D I told you nanga koan hota hai, wo jo Zina kerta hai aur outcome public main ajata hai. Yar jab tumhain pata hai k IK ka maazi aisa hai to doosroan k maazi pe q sawal uthaatay ho, specially uss case main jab doosrai k pas Sita White jaisa anmol karnama bhi mojood na ho??

Bhai, agar aap ye kaho k Nawaz corrupt hai to baat ki ja skti hai, agar aap kaho k Nawaz chor hai to bhi ham discuss ker sktai hain, laikin jab Nangi league jaisai alfaz use kero gai to yaqeen kero mere zehn main to Imran Khan hi aai ga, na chahtay huay bhi, jis ka scandal proven hai....

i just asked you a simple question and i m waiting your answer since yesterday, you are trying to hide under carpet while quoting out of topic

how do you justify the attack on supreme court ? and if your party attacked supreme court, how can they ask for independent judiciary, if they think it was a mistake, why dont they appologize to public ?
 

binmahmood

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i just asked you a simple question and i m waiting your answer since yesterday, you are trying to hide under carpet while quoting out of topic

how do you justify the attack on supreme court ? and if your party attacked supreme court, how can they ask for independent judiciary, if they think it was a mistake, why dont they appologize to public ?


You are asking me to justify PMLN members attacking on SC. My answer is, I am not justifying it and I condemn it as a silly mistake of PMLN. I feel it crystal clear. Now coming to second part, if Imran being sexual addict once, can condemn adultery now, same way, Nawaz can speak about independent SC. Simple, isn't it? Have I answered your question?
 

PTI_Lover

MPA (400+ posts)
Well, trust me I do condemn attack on Supreme Court by PMLN followers, and I do it with an open heart, so whats the problem in it? What if they are reluctant of what they have done?

You making it an ego problem, I am not. I am declaring the wrong deeds by Nawaz. As far as Tahira Syed issue is concerned, we still have to wait for something solid as Sita White, don't we?

Sita or Tahira issues are totally personal, i mentioned it once just because u again n again goes personal on captain's life which has nothing to do with national politics, as all of us have a lot of personal issues hence can not be mingled here with national issues.

Second, i appreciate that you condemn the act, but the questions that person whom you support, he has never ever condemn it openly, being reluctant with IF is not the solution, i will be happy if he openly admit his mistakes and ask the nation for apology, return the looted money, i know he is a human too, he has done millions of mistakes in life and all can be forgiven if he correct his path, ask for forgiveness, return the money, be a good and uncorrupted politician, i would love to support him if he turn up clean
 

Raaz

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Trust me it's not the answer of what I asked you. You are trying to run away... come back on track Mr. Pig's relative...[/COLOR] (next time be careful about abusing others, "ham bhi moo main zubaan rekhtai hain, kaash poocho k mudda'aa kia hai) consult me if you are unable to understand Roman Urdu.

Imran Zaani, YES or NO?

Hello Mr.
Please take care. It is not good to say someone " Mr. Pig's relative..."

U r talking about Imran's sins, but why talk in bad words. It makes your and reader's brain very nasty.

Everyone is human being and needs respect, and making relation with PIG is terrible and not acceptable.

Fighting only about Imran or Zardari or Musharaf or Nawaz should not make any body so aggressive that these type of words should be exchanged.

Hope U will correct it.

U r a Pakistani and nice muslim, We should be at peak of manners, that Allah SWT wants from us, otherwise we could not rule the world...

Thanks again.
 
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binmahmood

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Hello Mr.
Please take care. It is not good to say someone " Mr. Pig's relative..."

U r talking about Imran's sins, but why talk in bad words. It makes your and reader's brain very nasty.

Everyone is human being and needs respect, and making relation with PIG is terrible and not acceptable.

Fighting only about Imran or Zardari or Musharaf or Nawaz should not make any body so aggressive that these type of words should be exchanged.

Hope U will correct it.

U r a Pakistani and nice muslim, We should be at peak of manners, that Allah SWT wants from us, otherwise we could not rule the world...

Thanks again.

Dear Brother, you are absolutely correct and I will try inshALLAH to take care of this thing. I apologize for it publicly here on this forum.
 

binmahmood

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Sita or Tahira issues are totally personal, i mentioned it once just because u again n again goes personal on captain's life which has nothing to do with national politics, as all of us have a lot of personal issues hence can not be mingled here with national issues.

Second, i appreciate that you condemn the act, but the questions that person whom you support, he has never ever condemn it openly, being reluctant with IF is not the solution, i will be happy if he openly admit his mistakes and ask the nation for apology, return the looted money, i know he is a human too, he has done millions of mistakes in life and all can be forgiven if he correct his path, ask for forgiveness, return the money, be a good and uncorrupted politician, i would love to support him if he turn up clean


This is another subject worth debate (positive and healthy one), if Sexual Relations are public issues or not. To you, it's personal, to me it's not. If it's a personal issue, will you allow your brother or sister or cousin or friend (with pardon, just for the sake of example) to get indulged in Physical Relationships? If your answer is a comfortable YES, I have nothing remained to say about it. If you feel suffocation while allowing them for a physical relation, question rises what's YOUR problem, it's THEIR personal life and you have nothing to do in it.

My dear friend, adultery and physical relationships are not at all a personal issue, rather they may led complete society towards a sick environment where adultery will be a normal thing without any objection by anyone. Think SERIOUSLY. I like Imran but I will never allow any of his team mates or himself for promoting Adultery or Normalizing Physical Relationships in this country by saying it's Personal Issue. I will resist......
 
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PTI_Lover

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This is another subject worth debate (positive and healthy one), if Sexual Relations are public issues or not. To you, it's personal, to me it's not. If it's a personal issue, will you allow your brother or sister or cousin or friend (with pardon, just for the sake of example) to get indulged in Physical Relationships? If your answer is a comfortable YES, I have nothing remained to say about it. If you feel suffocation while allowing them for a physical relation, question rises what's YOUR problem, it's THEIR personal life and you have nothing to do in it.

My dear friend, adultery and physical relationships are not at all a personal issue, rather they may led complete society towards a sick environment where adultery will be a normal thing without any objection by anyone. Think SERIOUSLY. I like Imran but I will never allow any of his team mates or himself for promoting Adultery or Normalizing Physical Relationships in this country by saying it's Personal Issue. I will resist......

I wont allow but if anyone is doing whomever it is, they are answerable to Allah for their personal affairs, if someone is raping thats a crime, if its done between two (adultery) both are answerable to God and it doesnt effect anyone else. God will punish them if we cant, and still IK;s issues have nothing to do with anyone else in this country.

Second, if you are talking about PROMOTING ADULTERY and your blame IK for promoting, your the biggest fool around, just tell me who is banging on this subject since a decade ? if he did something silly he wont even talk to himself about it, its you guys who promote it while u bring a bedroom affair on national dicussion forums, so disgusting

open a debate on this and i m telling you are already guilty of promoting adultery cuz you are trying to expose someone's bedroom affairs
 

binmahmood

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I wont allow but if anyone is doing whomever it is, they are answerable to Allah for their personal affairs, if someone is raping thats a crime, if its done between two (adultery) both are answerable to God and it doesnt effect anyone else. God will punish them if we cant, and still IK;s issues have nothing to do with anyone else in this country.

Second, if you are talking about PROMOTING ADULTERY and your blame IK for promoting, your the biggest fool around, just tell me who is banging on this subject since a decade ? if he did something silly he wont even talk to himself about it, its you guys who promote it while u bring a bedroom affair on national dicussion forums, so disgusting

open a debate on this and i m telling you are already guilty of promoting adultery cuz you are trying to expose someone's bedroom affairs


You started your post with "I won't allow"... Why dear? Why won't you allow? It's THEIR bedroom issue, isn't it? Then whats YOUR problem in it? Your problem is that it's WRONG, accept it or not.

Now, about the question, how IK and his team is supporting adultery? Answer is, by stressing to exhibit the behavior you are portraying right now. According to IK, an agreed adultery is someone's PERSONAL ISSUE. He is trying to hardcode you guys with this concept and you the young generation is accepting it like idiots (with pardon). You guys are taking it very easy as their is a charm behind this concept, "its something personal". You are trying to say indirectly that a father should never say a word to a daughter who is ready to enjoy some physical relationships with each other and then vote to IK as IK told them its their "Personal Matter".

IK is Indirectly promoting adultery. Remember, Physical Relationships are not anything Personal. It's Western ideology that is saying so. To West, church and mosque is something personal, to West, religion is something personal, to West, girlfriend is something personal. Mr. PTI Lover, Western Ideology suggest that Sexual Orientation (being homosexual or heterosexual) is something Personal, do you agree with that? Will you accept IK if he brings a bill for legal Gay Marriages in Assembly by quoting it something Personal? Will you have no objection in that as it would be a "Bedroom Affair"???????

For heaven's sake, do love IK, but don't forget that this is Islamic Republic of Pakistan and we are Muslims. We can not allow anybody to be silent on such things by calling it "Personal Affairs". Amr Bil Maroof wa Nahi Anil Munkir (Order for good and Disallow Bad). For Lord's sake, don't suppress this issue by quoting it a Personal Affair just because you want to see IK as Leader of Nation, we don't have any problem with him being leader of us, but Yes, we do have a problem when you guys doesn't accept his wrong deeds and start yelling it as PERSONAL DAMN AFFAIRS.
 

PTI_Lover

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You started your post with "I won't allow"... Why dear? Why won't you allow? It's THEIR bedroom issue, isn't it? Then whats YOUR problem in it? Your problem is that it's WRONG, accept it or not.

Now, about the question, how IK and his team is supporting adultery? Answer is, by stressing to exhibit the behavior you are portraying right now. According to IK, an agreed adultery is someone's PERSONAL ISSUE. He is trying to hardcode you guys with this concept and you the young generation is accepting it like idiots (with pardon). You guys are taking it very easy as their is a charm behind this concept, "its something personal". You are trying to say indirectly that a father should never say a word to a daughter who is ready to enjoy some physical relationships with each other and then vote to IK as IK told them its their "Personal Matter".

IK is Indirectly promoting adultery. Remember, Physical Relationships are not anything Personal. It's Western ideology that is saying so. To West, church and mosque is something personal, to West, religion is something personal, to West, girlfriend is something personal. Mr. PTI Lover, Western Ideology suggest that Sexual Orientation (being homosexual or heterosexual) is something Personal, do you agree with that? Will you accept IK if he brings a bill for legal Gay Marriages in Assembly by quoting it something Personal? Will you have no objection in that as it would be a "Bedroom Affair"???????

For heaven's sake, do love IK, but don't forget that this is Islamic Republic of Pakistan and we are Muslims. We can not allow anybody to be silent on such things by calling it "Personal Affairs". Amr Bil Maroof wa Nahi Anil Munkir (Order for good and Disallow Bad). For Lord's sake, don't suppress this issue by quoting it a Personal Affair just because you want to see IK as Leader of Nation, we don't have any problem with him being leader of us, but Yes, we do have a problem when you guys doesn't accept his wrong deeds and start yelling it as PERSONAL DAMN AFFAIRS.

Well, you are just trying some face saving tactics and wasting your little brain on it, have some air and think once again, not even a fool will promote his wrong doings, you are promoting it cuz u dont have anything else against him, he is not corrupt even he receive billions in charity and never took a penny out of it, he is not corrupt cuz he has been offered lot of things again n again by establishment but never took any of them, unlike your nangi league who are sucking our blood with their wealth doubling every second whether its from tenders of sugar crises

you have only one point, Sita White FULL STOP, bring something logical and stop promoting adultery, he will answer to Allah and she will answer too, this is not your business neither mine, sita white has nothing to do with our national politics and no one knew her name till these corrupt politician brought her into news just to defame a non-corrupt guy, SHAME ON YOU and SHAME ON YOUR NANGI LEAGUE
 
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