Doctors strike: 22 patients die across Punjab - Kaha Mer Gaye Saray Politicians ?

[swing]

aslam o elikam
ajj kitnay din say he yong doctors ki strikes chal rahee hain magar koee uss ka saday baab nahe ho raha why?inn salay lalchi doctors ko insaniat say bilkul koee gharaz nahe ho sakta hai app mai say aksar ko yeh baat theek lagay k wakee doctors ko apnee salary ziada kernay k leye strike kernee chhaye mgr yeh sochnay say pehlay iss baat ko feel karay k agr app ka koe apna app k hathoo mai mer raha hoo tou app kia karo gay?
(aur koee siasi qiadat iss baat ko solve kernay k leye b koshish nahe ker rahe its great WOH kisi bhai nay theek kaha thaa k jis mulak mai perhi likhee qiadat itnee lalchi hoo waha INQILAAB GHANTA AYEE GAA)
WORLD cup k leye saray choor akhatay hoo jatay hain aub kaha hain?
i wish k imran ko iss leye kuch kerna chhaye aur kuch nahe tou apni party k jitnay doctor hazrat hain unn say request karay magar yaha shyd kisi ko koee siasi faida nahe iss leye sub peechay peechay hain.GOD BLESS PAKISTAN

 

[pakistan1947]

Re: Kaha Mer Gaye Saray Politicians ?(Dakoo Doctors)

actually politicians go abroad for their medical treatment , so they dont need to think about these doctors.

But same time doctors shouldn't forget that they are responsible of saving lives.....

and after all this, again AWAM is in trouble.

 

[adnan_swati]

Re: Kaha Mer Gaye Saray Politicians ?(Dakoo Doctors)

mr. swing i agree with your concern . doctor should protest in a manner that shouldnt effect emergency patients.
as far as your emotional concern about their lives are concerned i would like to draw your attention towars those dozens of people who get killed daily by negligence of our security forces (in one way or other security is their responsibility). who about those people ? did u think like this for them ? watch jirga program a couple of week ago . u will come to know about their sufferings

 

[adnan_swati]

Re: Kaha Mer Gaye Saray Politicians ?(Dakoo Doctors)

health budget of this country is 18 billion rupees
defence budget is more than 700 billions
this tells you the whole story

 

[swing]

Re: Kaha Mer Gaye Saray Politicians ?(Dakoo Doctors)

health budget of this country is 18 billion rupees
defence budget is more than 700 billions
this tells you the whole story

adnan sawati saab mai app k nazreye ki qadar kerta hoon mgr app mayray emotion ko nahe uss emotion ko feel kero k jab kisi ka koe apna kis waja say say uss k hatho mer raha hai .
mayray bhai apni HAQOOQ hasil kernay k leye GHAREEB LOGO ka KHOON hee Q?
apnay HAQOOQ manwanay k leye aur b bohat say tareekay hain magar yeh tareeka sab say GHATIA hai.

kay kisi ki LASH app k samnay peree hai aur app iss leye nahe bacah rahay k app ki salary thoree hai.(lanaatt hai)

 

[abbasiali]

Re: Kaha Mer Gaye Saray Politicians ?(Dakoo Doctors)

Emergency shouldn't be ignore under any circumstances, this should be a law in Pakistan, and those Doctors who would violate this law, should be charged under murder trial. however these causalities are being ignored and it has result fatally. We all know at the end of the day, every one will be benefited with this corrupt system, Unfortunately Poor would remain the sufferers. There is no hope left. there is no light at the end of this tunnel.

 

[famamdani]

Re: Kaha Mer Gaye Saray Politicians ?(Dakoo Doctors)

one thing in this case................................EMERGENCY MUST OPen....................................why not Govt do this solution also Emergency basis..............why he delay...........only argu..........is from federal and federal have no intresset in Punjab he punished all ppl for not voting to pppp.......................we are discussed all about side effect but want not solve this main reasson on emergency basis...........................WHY NOT......................THIS IS Q IS IMPORTANT..............if govt dont know about emergency............................jab bare mian ko heart problem tab wo wait kar rahe the ke fund nahi he must wait ...............no he take every possibality and use all resources and paid in Pound for hospatatlity bills.....................wah jee wah....................YA SHAIKH APNI APNI DEKH...................or Awam HUM TO BANAY HE HAIN MARNE KE LIYE ..so TERI YAAD ME ROZ JIYE JAINGE................... MARE JAINGE......................

 

[hypocrite]

Re: Kaha Mer Gaye Saray Politicians ?(Dakoo Doctors)

No matter how right they are asking for what they want but letting people die like that is not acceptable and will go against them, even if they are right

 

[lotaa]

Re: Kaha Mer Gaye Saray Politicians ?(Dakoo Doctors)

;)main apa ko in Doctors k baray mein sach waya sunata hoon,jo meray sath paish aaya,main pakistan giya,socha meo hospital se chek karwata hoon,main ne naak ka opretion karwana tha,pvt clinic walay ne kaha tha k opretion ho ga,is liay main govt hospital mein giya,wahan ent head se chek karwaya,us ne kaha koi prob nahi aao 1 month dawai khao,araam aa jaye ga,main bahir aaya tu wahan us ka aik tout khara tha main ne us se pocha ye Doctors pvt clinic mein kahan bethta hay,us ne kaha saffan wala choak mein Bismillah hospital mein bethtay hain,main sham ko wahan chala giya,1000 rupees fees pay ki aaj se 8 saal pehlay,us ne check kiya aur kahan foran opretion ki zaroorat hai,main ne kaha Q,kehta hay masla kharab hay bohat,mujhay itna ghussa aaya k yehi Do jab govt hopital mein tha tu keh raha hay opretion ki zaroorat nahi,aur 6 hours baad yehi Dr pvt hopital mein beth kar keh raha hay foran opretion ki zaroorat hay,mujhay ghussa tu bohat aaya,but,main wapis aa giya,achay Dr b hotay hain,jo free ilaaj kartay hain ,free dawai detya hain,aisya b kai Dr ko main janta hoon , jo mareez ko apna smajh kar free ilaaj kartay hain,but wo is tarah hartal nahi kartay k kisi ki jaan chali jaye,,but ziyada Doctors lalchi hotay hain,aur maal bananay k chakar mein rehtay hain,humara pora moashra hi isi chakar mein hai,koi marta hay tu maray,apni fees pori letya hain ye Dr jee

one thing in this case................................EMERGENCY MUST OPen....................................why not Govt do this solution also Emergency basis..............why he delay...........only argu..........is from federal and federal have no intresset in Punjab he punished all ppl for not voting to pppp.......................we are discussed all about side effect but want not solve this main reasson on emergency basis...........................WHY NOT......................THIS IS Q IS IMPORTANT..............if govt dont know about emergency............................jab bare mian ko heart problem tab wo wait kar rahe the ke fund nahi he must wait ...............no he take every possibality and use all resources and paid in Pound for hospatatlity bills.....................wah jee wah....................YA SHAIKH APNI APNI DEKH...................or Awam HUM TO BANAY HE HAIN MARNE KE LIYE ..so TERI YAAD ME ROZ JIYE JAINGE................... MARE JAINGE......................

 

[messam]

Re: Kaha Mer Gaye Saray Politicians ?(Dakoo Doctors)

aslam o elikam
ajj kitnay din say he yong doctors ki strikes chal rahee hain magar koee uss ka saday baab nahe ho raha why?inn salay lalchi doctors ko insaniat say bilkul koee gharaz nahe ho sakta hai app mai say aksar ko yeh baat theek lagay k wakee doctors ko apnee salary ziada kernay k leye strike kernee chhaye mgr yeh sochnay say pehlay iss baat ko feel karay k agr app ka koe apna app k hathoo mai mer raha hoo tou app kia karo gay?
(aur koee siasi qiadat iss baat ko solve kernay k leye b koshish nahe ker rahe its great WOH kisi bhai nay theek kaha thaa k jis mulak mai perhi likhee qiadat itnee lalchi hoo waha INQILAAB GHANTA AYEE GAA)
WORLD cup k leye saray choor akhatay hoo jatay hain aub kaha hain?
i wish k imran ko iss leye kuch kerna chhaye aur kuch nahe tou apni party k jitnay doctor hazrat hain unn say request karay magar yaha shyd kisi ko koee siasi faida nahe iss leye sub peechay peechay hain.GOD BLESS PAKISTAN

O mere bhai yeh maan lo is mein sab say bari hut-dharmi Punjab Govt kee hai. 2 saal say laray laga rahe hein. Her baar waada kar k mukkar jatay hein. 30 March ko b Shahbaz Sharif end time per mukkar gaya aur kaha k committee bana daitay hein (jin say pichlay 2 saal say baat ho rahi thee aur her 3 months k baad kahtay thay problem solve). Yeh ganjon ko khansi b lagay tau UK pohanch jate hein. In ko kya pata k gareeb aadmi ka ilaj b important hai. Aur jab kum salary do gay tau wohi ho ga k Pvt mein mil lo.
Jub ap k ghar mein aap ka bacha, bv, maan ko khanay k lalay parray hon, aur aap 36 hours kee duty kar k ayein tau yahi hoga jo ho raha hai. 18,000 mein aaj kal k zamany mein 2 bachay, aur aik couple ka guzara karva k dikhao. (Bacha doodh b maangta hai , dawai b, skool b, aur roti b, maan beemar b hoti hai, govt utilities ka bill b mangti hai, oil wala ziada paisay b mangta hai, agar bike rakhi hai tau wo kaam b mangti hai aur petrol b.) aur yeh haalat mein mein nay assume kia hai k baap b mir gaya, choti sisters jin kee shadi nahi hui wo b khud kashi kar chuki hein aur yeh khandan reh gaya hai abi..
Faqat achi taleem, jhootay waadon, aur naami committees say pait bharta tau kabi koi Pakistan say bahir na jata.
Yeh extreme tariqa hai apna haq manwanay ka lakin is point pay pohanchay kese hein wo.
Emergency nahi band hoti thee. OPD mein b 2 hours kaam ho raha tha. Us k baad PA k samnay ahtejaj. Wahan ahtejaj mein boaht say doctors ko arrest kar k maara aur baad mein Jail mein b dhulai kee. Kahan mar gaya media, is ko coverage q nahi mili. Tau ab tum kya sochtay ho k "Maray aur ronay na day" kya reaction hoga. Agar gareebon kee qadar hoti aur un k haq mein bahtri chhatay tau Badtameez ***** apnay protocol k paisay kum kar k in ke salaries mein izaafa karta..

Lastly aik baat bata doon , mein koi Doctor nahi lakin mein in kee is tahreek kee progress pichlay 2 saal say parh raha hoon. Is liye mujhe pata hai right pay kon hai. I AM AN Engineer. Imran khan ke baat kee thee kisi bhai nay tau aap yaad rakho imran khan fresh graduates ko shaukat khanam mein 60,000 per month daita hai, medical free family kaa, aur doctors k liye aur b allowance hein. He raised this salary from 40,000 october 2010, to this new 60,000. Ussay pata hai k jub mental satisfaction na ho tau Gadhay ko bee chaabuk maro tau us kee raftar mein farrak nahi parta.. Doctors ko haq nahi hartal pay janay kaa , gareb mir jaye ga, tau aaj salaries karo theek aur kal say yeh gareeb kam az kam doctor ke wajah say nahi marray gaa, haan gurbat k haathon zarur dum tor day ga..

ALLAH NIGHAIBAAN.

 

[moazzamniaz]

This is where all the money is going in punjab

Daanish Schools: Postponed ceremonies cost Rs2.72 million

By Anwer Sumra
Published: April 3, 2011

Inauguration at Chishtian delayed thrice because chief minister was busy.

LAHORE: As much as Rs2.72 million has been wasted as the inauguration of a Daanish School in Chishtian was postponed thrice because Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif could not attend the ceremony as scheduled, The Express Tribune has learnt.

The inauguration is now scheduled to take place on Sunday (today).
In a letter written to the provincial chief secretary and finance secretary, Bahawalnagar district coordination officer has sought Rs2.7 million to arrange Sunday’s event.
An official speaking on conditions of anonymity told The Express Tribune that Rs3.9 million had been released to the Bahawalnagar DCO to arrange the ceremony. He said that the DCO had told the government that Rs2.72 million was spent on arranging the event on February 22, March 3 and March 21. He said on all three occasion the event had to be postponed because of chief minister’s unavailibility.
He said the Chief Minister’s Secretariat had directed the district administration to complete all arrangements at least 48 hours ahead of the event. However, he said, on all three occasions, the secretariat had postponed the event a day before the scheduled date. He said by that time the event managers had already completed the arrangements.
The chief minister has already inaugurated Daanish Schools in Rahim Yar Khan and Hasilpur (in Bahawalpur district). Besides the first batch of students, the ceremonies were attended by government officials, journalists and foreign dignitaries.
Published in The Express Tribune, April 03rd, 2011.

 

[Nangyale]

I swear by Apollo the Physician and Asclepius and Hygieia and Panaceia and all the gods, and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will fulfill according to my ability and judgment this oath and this covenant: To hold him who has taught me this art as equal to my parents and to live my life in partnership with him, and if he is in need of money to give him a share of mine, and to regard his offspring as equal to my brothers in male lineage and to teach them this artif they desire to learn itwithout fee and covenant; to give a share of precepts and oral instruction and all the other learning to my sons and to the sons of him who has instructed me and to pupils who have signed the covenant and have taken the oath according to medical law, but to no one else.
I will apply dietic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice.
I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody if asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art.
I will not use the knife, not even on sufferers from stone, but will withdraw in favor of such men as are engaged in this work.
Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice, of all mischief and in particular of sexual relations with both female and male persons, be they free or slaves.
What I may see or hear in the course of treatment or even outside of the treatment in regard to the life of men, which on no account one must spread abroad, I will keep myself holding such things shameful to be spoken about.
If I fulfill this oath and do not violate it, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and art, being honoured with fame among all men for all time to come; if I transgress it and swear falsely, may the opposite of all this be my lot.




Those who are protesting I, think they are violating this oath.
My protesting fellows must realize saving a life is like saving the whole human kind.They may be have problems but this is not the way.Govt. need to confiscate the licenses of those doctors responsible for deaths and sent them to prison cause this is what law says.

 

[samar]

Phir b isko log khadim e ala kahen gey ore nawaz sharif k narey lagein gey.....................kia ye in logon k ooper azab se km hain.

kia in logo ko samhaj nhi atee k tum jin beghartoon ko ghareebo ka hamdard samhajtey ho vo to khud beroon e mulk ja k ilaaj krvatey hain lakin tum ghareebon k liaey kuch nhin unkey paas.

vakeeloon ore sahafion me karooron bantey jatey hain lakin doctoron k liaey kuch nhi

kb tk is zul ka hissa baney raho gey ?????????

 

[swing]

“ I swear by Apollo the Physician and Asclepius and Hygieia and Panaceia and all the gods, and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will fulfill according to my ability and judgment this oath and this covenant: To hold him who has taught me this art as equal to my parents and to live my life in partnership with him, and if he is in need of money to give him a share of mine, and to regard his offspring as equal to my brothers in male lineage and to teach them this art–if they desire to learn it–without fee and covenant; to give a share of precepts and oral instruction and all the other learning to my sons and to the sons of him who has instructed me and to pupils who have signed the covenant and have taken the oath according to medical law, but to no one else.
I will apply dietic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice.
I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody if asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art.
I will not use the knife, not even on sufferers from stone, but will withdraw in favor of such men as are engaged in this work.
Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice, of all mischief and in particular of sexual relations with both female and male persons, be they free or slaves.
What I may see or hear in the course of treatment or even outside of the treatment in regard to the life of men, which on no account one must spread abroad, I will keep myself holding such things shameful to be spoken about.
If I fulfill this oath and do not violate it, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and art, being honoured with fame among all men for all time to come; if I transgress it and swear falsely, may the opposite of all this be my lot.




Those who are protesting I, think they are violating this oath.
My protesting fellows must realize saving a life is like saving the whole human kind.They may be have problems but this is not the way.Govt. need to confiscate the licenses of those doctors responsible for deaths and sent them to prison cause this is what law says.

”

yeh baat messam saab ko bataye.

 

[zeshaan]

Apnee apnee BAREE ka intezar,
Aoor kia kar satay hain yeh siasatdaan.

Marain inkay dushman,inkoo aam awam kee kia parwah.

 

[sergeant]

Doctors and Government of Punjab.

From thirty seven day doctors are on strike, government Punjab is not being agree to increase their salaries and other incentives, and poor population of Punjab is suffering. Who is guilty, no can define. Both parties are giving strong logics and declaring himself innocent, yes! Guilty is public for being poor and Pakistani. Why I am saying poor because they cant afford private medication, they depend on government hospitals. Every Pakistani know very well that over ruling figures, their families and kids never get treatment from these hospitals, they get treatment from abroad. In this way they have no tension for it, people are dying in hospital due to doctors strike, its not matter. They have decided to never increase their salaries.
I dont appreciate doctors, their education never deserve that which they are doing, they should continue their job and try to adopt some other option for protest, like only morning duty they will perform and evening off. So in this way people not affected so badly like now.
Punjab Government saying that we have no enough amount to increase their salaries. Yes! They have no amount for doctors salaries or for medicines, they have no amount for new wards and hospitals, they have no amount for quality services in hospital, but they have amount for ministers salaries, allowances, built prove cars, housing and many other allalay talalays.
Punjab government have money for cricket world cup semifinal loser. They were announcing agricultural land for cricketers, but for doctor no
Doctors are highly qualified people, same doctors are getting in lacks out of country. Maximum Doctors are leaving Pakistan just for high salaries, I dont say give them equal to abroad, but give them some reasonable salaries for maintain their stander. A illiterate MNA or MPA get salaries more than fifty thousand and allowances and other facilities which comes equal to two hundred thousand rupee. Is it justification, take start from home and then see who will claim more from you, never first show yourself as a example then point them out.
Doctors and Government both are guilty, but Government is superior so become more guilty

 

[moazzamniaz]

Re: Doctors and Government of Punjab.

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[Young_Blood]

Re: Doctors and Government of Punjab.

I think iss matter per punjab govt ka muwaqif sahi hai,, and i fully support punjab govt on this particular matter..
Ye Govt hospitals k Dr,, Maseeha nahi Kasaie hotey hein,,, Ye jiss terha patients se behave kertey hein ya jei ye treatment dete hein,, Mareez dil main inhein bud-duaien aur gaaliya de rahay hotey hein, in ke poori koshish hoti hai k jaha ye private service ker rahay hotey hein waha per in mazloom aur maskeen patients ke khaal utaar sakein,, ye apni marzi se duty kerte hein,, kabhi seat per hotay hein kabhi nahi, senkroo gareeb patients in ke raah tak tay rehte hein,,, aur jitne hours ye duty dete hein, un main ziada tur ye lady dr se ya nurses se gup shup martey rehtey hein,,, Mareez ke zindagi ke inhe koi perwah nahi hoti, ye sirf haazri laganay aatey hein, aur shaam ko apne ya private hospital main ja ker duties kerte hein aur pesa banatay hein,,,
main ye nahi kehta k sab Dr aise hein, magar aksariyat in ke aisi he hoti hai,,,
mujhey iss cheaz ka experience ho chuka hai, mere apne bhai ka accident howa tha, aur ham ussey police case ke waja se karachi k civil hospital mein le ker gay they,,, mere bhai k sir ke pichle side ke haddi ya khopri ke haddi break ho gai thi, aur uss k mou se blood aa raha tha, aur wo streture per tarap raha tha, aur DR sahab mobile per gul shup laga rahay they,,, uss waqt mera dil ker raha tha k iss dajjaal ka main khoon choos loo, Alhamdulillah ham mali tor per mustahkam hein, police karwai khatam hoi, to ham foran ussey AGA KHAN hospital lay gay, waha pese jama kerwaey, aur mere bhai ko foran operation thature lay gay,,,
agar yehi ham gareeb hotay, to mera bhai wahi tarap tarap ker apni jaan de deta.
ye maseeha nahi ye Khoon choosnay wali aur mareezo ke khaal utarney walay dajjaal hein,,,

 

[Raaz]

Re: Doctors and Government of Punjab.

I think iss matter per punjab govt ka muwaqif sahi hai,, and i fully support punjab govt on this particular matter..
Ye Govt hospitals k Dr,, Maseeha nahi Kasaie hotey hein,,, Ye jiss terha patients se behave kertey hein ya jei ye treatment dete hein,, Mareez dil main inhein bud-duaien aur gaaliya de rahay hotey hein, in ke poori koshish hoti hai k jaha ye private service ker rahay hotey hein waha per in mazloom aur maskeen patients ke khaal utaar sakein,, ye apni marzi se duty kerte hein,, kabhi seat per hotay hein kabhi nahi, senkroo gareeb patients in ke raah tak tay rehte hein,,, aur jitne hours ye duty dete hein, un main ziada tur ye lady dr se ya nurses se gup shup martey rehtey hein,,, Mareez ke zindagi ke inhe koi perwah nahi hoti, ye sirf haazri laganay aatey hein, aur shaam ko apne ya private hospital main ja ker duties kerte hein aur pesa banatay hein,,,
main ye nahi kehta k sab Dr aise hein, magar aksariyat in ke aisi he hoti hai,,,
mujhey iss cheaz ka experience ho chuka hai, mere apne bhai ka accident howa tha, aur ham ussey police case ke waja se karachi k civil hospital mein le ker gay they,,, mere bhai k sir ke pichle side ke haddi ya khopri ke haddi break ho gai thi, aur uss k mou se blood aa raha tha, aur wo streture per tarap raha tha, aur DR sahab mobile per gul shup laga rahay they,,, uss waqt mera dil ker raha tha k iss dajjaal ka main khoon choos loo, Alhamdulillah ham mali tor per mustahkam hein, police karwai khatam hoi, to ham foran ussey AGA KHAN hospital lay gay, waha pese jama kerwaey, aur mere bhai ko foran operation thature lay gay,,,
agar yehi ham gareeb hotay, to mera bhai wahi tarap tarap ker apni jaan de deta.
ye maseeha nahi ye Khoon choosnay wali aur mareezo ke khaal utarney walay dajjaal hein,,,

U r right but this is not doctor's problem , this is our national behavior.

every Govt. employ in every field of life in Pakistan work like this, except private companies.

But still they deserve good salary.

and good check...

 

[Muhammad Tauseef A. Bajwa]

Doctors in Punjab call off strike

Doctors in Punjab call off strike
Published: April 7, 2011

File photo of young doctors protesting in front of the Punjab Assembly. PHOTOS: EXPRESS/ABID NAWAZ

The Young Doctor Association (YDA) on Thursday decided to call off its 39-day strike after having talks with Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif.
According to Express 24/7 correspondent Muhammad Rizwan, the chief minister decided to form a six-member committee to work out a pay package and structure for the young doctors, after which all the doctors have started returning to hospitals.

The committee will consist of Law Minister Rana Sanaullah, seniour minister Sardar Zulfiqar Khosa and Pervaiz Rasheed, representing the government along with three doctors.

Both parties, the doctors and the government agreed on a time frame of one week to come up with the package.

Earlier in the day, the doctors had decided to restore emergencies while it was decided that the indoors and outdoor departments will remain closed. However, now all departments have been restored.

The decision to restore the emergency had been taken by the Young Doctors Association in Lahore on the occasion of World Health Day.

Sharif had welcomed the young doctors willingness to restore emergency services earlier. As a show of appreciation, he had ordered the restoration of all suspended doctors. Sharif said the doctors have proved their sincerity to humanity.

Background
Young doctors across Punjab had been protesting demanding an increase in their salaries for the past few weeks. Negotiations between the Punjab government and the YDA broke down on March 31 over the issue of senior registrars salaries. The YDA insisted that their salaries be increased to Rs50,000 per month (from the current Rs30,000 per month) but the Punjab government argued that it cannot do so.

in Karachi, Hyderabad and Nawabshah had also announced on Monday that they will go on strike from Tuesday after talks with health ministry officials broke down, while Balochistan physicians endorsed the demands of Punjab doctors and said they would also go on strike if their demands were not met.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/144884/doctors-decide-to-restore-emergencies/