Do Shia believe that Hazrat Ali was a God ?

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Cyber_Security

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After watching this video it is apparent that Dr Amir Liaquat is telling Ali nay Ali koh bhaija tha? Not Allah nay Hazrat ALi koh bhaija tha. Also see everyone in Majlis appreciated this comment of Amir Liaquat.
I have a question for my Shia friends. Do you people believe Hazrat Ali was in fact Allah ? please write without abuse as it is a religious discussion. Abuse would only mean you don't have the answer. Because one only resorts to abuse when one does not have the answer.
 
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jani1

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استغفر الله


After watching this video it is apparent that Dr Amir Liaquat is telling Ali nay Ali koh bhaija tha? Not Allah nay Hazrat ALi koh bhaija tha. Also see everyone in Majlis appreciated this comment of Amir Liaquat.
I have a question for my Shia friends. Do you people believe Hazrat Ali was in fact Allah ? please write without abuse as it is a religious discussion. Abuse would only mean you don't have the answer. Because one only resorts to abuse when one does not have the answer.

 

Raiwind-Destroyer

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
there is no difference between him and maulna deasal they both use religion to gain votes

Amir liqat is palying on both sides to gain votes and popularity and on the media world amir liaqat is also a liberal as well
 

Zeb

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What type of question is this? You are educated enough to know both sunni and shia muslims pray to Allah. Both are same family called Islam.
 

Zeb

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Beware of illiterate peasants who bark like rabid dogs and claim to be gods chosen mullahs, what they need is a taraper/juta in their mouth for their sermons that incite hate/violence, they have a political agenda and use religion as a cover because befquuf people listen to these windbags.
 

Cyber_Security

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
What type of question is this? You are educated enough to know both sunni and shia muslims pray to Allah. Both are same family called Islam.
What kind of question ? Did you see how people reacted when Amir Liaquat said " Ali nay Ali koh bhajah tha ? " Isn't it my right then to ask, if it is every Shia's opinion ? Also did you see my second video, Shia Alims are saying that saying Yah Ali is similar to reading Quran 6000 times. Don't kill the messenger. I am curious , that's why I asked.
 

Zeb

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What kind of question ? Did you see how people reacted when Amir Liaquat said " Ali nay Ali koh bhajah tha ? " Isn't it my right then to ask, if it is every Shia's opinion ? Also did you see my second video, Shia Alims are saying that saying Yah Ali is similar to reading Quran 6000 times. Don't kill the messenger. I am curious , that's why I asked.
Brother i am not trying to upset you, just concerned that such videos usually result in some fools using violence which we have seen enough of in our country. There are nutters everywhere in every faith and these shia alims are no different to any other politically motivated extremist regardless of faith or creed, those people in the video whose reactions you refer to are the very fools that we have to protect ourselves from. When you put a large bunch of fools in a room with a clever speaker who can manipulate an audience trouble usually ensues. So please dont be offended by my comment.
 

Pakistani1947

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Oh! My God. Where did you get this video from? Is that what Shia believe ! ! ! I am in a shock. . . Yes, I have got my answer - - - - Thank You - - -
Beware of illiterate peasants who bark like rabid dogs and claim to be gods chosen mullahs, what they need is a taraper/juta in their mouth for their sermons that incite hate/violence, they have a political agenda and use religion as a cover because befquuf people listen to these windbags.
اللہ تعالیٰ نے ہمیں قرآن میں بتا دیا کہ رسول اللہ اس کے اس دنیا میں آخری نبی ہیں لیکن رسول اللہ ﷺ کے بعد کچھ گمراہ لوگوں نے ، جو بعد میں شیعہ کے نام سے مشہور هوئے، یہ بات نہ مانی اور امامت کا عقیدہ گھڑ لیا اور کہا ہمارے امام کا درجہ تو نبیوں اور رسولوں سے بھی بلند ہے - حوالہ


source: https://www.al-islam.org/shiite-encyclopedia/imamat-versus-prophethood-part-1

مرزا قادیانی نے یہ غلطی کی کہ اپنے آپ کو نبی کہلوادیا ورنہ شیعہ عقائد قادیانیوں سے بھی بد تر ہیں - شیعہ اپنے خیالی اماموں کو، جن کو وہ قرآن کی فقط ایک آیت سے بھی ثابت نہ کر سکے، نبیوں سے بھی افضل مانتے ہیں- أستغفر الله- حوالہ- قادیانیوں کی نماز ، اذان اور کلمہ مسلمانوں جیسا ہے جبکہ شیعہ نے ان تمام میں تحریف کر دی ہے اور کلمہ کے ساتھ "وعليٌ وليُّ الله" کا اضافہ کرتے ہیں- قادیانی قرآن کو تحریف شدہ نہیں مانتے جبکہ شیعہ تحریف شدہ مانتے ہیں -اس بارے میں مزید جانئے- قادیانی صحاح ستہ کی احادیث کی کتب کو تسلیم کرتے ہیں جبکہ شیعہ ان پر لعنت بھیجتے ہیں -شیعہ صحابۂ کرام کی توہین کرتے ہیں جبکہ قادیانی نہیں کرتے - شیعہ بات بات پر تقیّہ کرتے ہیں -اس بارے میں مزید جانئے - شیعہ مذہب میں زنا کو عجیب تدبیر سے جائز قرار دیا گیا ہے-اس بارے میں مزید جانئے - شیعہ کے باطل عقیدہ بداء کے مطابق الله تعالیٰ مستقبل کے بارے میں پیش گوئی کرتے ہوۓ غلطی کر سکتا ہے أستغفر الله-اس بارے میں مزید جانئے

جب آپ کسی شیعہ کو یہ سمجھانے میں مدد کرنا چاہتے ہیں کہ وہ اسلام سے کتنا دور ہے یا کسی ساتھی مسلمان کو شیعہ کے دھوکے سے بچانے میں میں ان کی مدد کرنا چاہتے ہیں تو بجاۓ غیر ضروری مسائل پر بحث میں وقت ضایع کرنے کے, شیعہ سے صرف ایک سوال پوچھیں


سوال: قرآن مجید کی کسی ایک واضح آیت سے شیعہ کی خیالی امامت ثابت کریں، آیت بلکل واضح ہونی چائیے اور بغیر کسی تشریح کے ؟

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نوٹ : قادیانی رسول الله ﷺ کو آخری نبی نہ ماننے کے نتیجے میں کافر قرار دئیے جا چکے ہیں
 
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Cyber_Security

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Brother i am not trying to upset you, just concerned that such videos usually result in some fools using violence which we have seen enough of in our country. There are nutters everywhere in every faith and these shia alims are no different to any other politically motivated extremist regardless of faith or creed, those people in the video whose reactions you refer to are the very fools that we have to protect ourselves from. When you put a large bunch of fools in a room with a clever speaker who can manipulate an audience trouble usually ensues. So please dont be offended by my comment.
Look, you raised a valid question. Trust me it took me a long time to post this video , But I wanted to learn something. All my life I believed that Shia do not believe Hazrat Ali was a God, it is an accusation. But after watching some videos I learnt something I never knew all my life.
People like Amir Liaquat make a fool to people by being at every side. Sometimes he says Hazrat Ali was God, then sometimes he says he is a Sunni.
As far as violence is concerned, I pray to Allah that we all live peacefully together. But that doesn't mean we hide their identities. They should open up and tell the world what they believe on. Have you seen how Shia have been abusive on this forum to us ? I learnt something new today about Shia religion today. I appreciate your response.
 
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HSiddiqui

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After watching this video it is apparent that Dr Amir Liaquat is telling Ali nay Ali koh bhaija tha? Not Allah nay Hazrat ALi koh bhaija tha. Also see everyone in Majlis appreciated this comment of Amir Liaquat.
I have a question for my Shia friends. Do you people believe Hazrat Ali was in fact Allah ? please write without abuse as it is a religious discussion. Abuse would only mean you don't have the answer. Because one only resorts to abuse when one does not have the answer.

You need to be insane or a non-Muslim to ask this Question from our Shia community, they are Muslims giving shahda as LA LILAHA ILLALLAHU WA MUHAMMADUR RASUL ALLAH. Change your name to knowledge -88
 

Cyber_Security

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You need to be insane or a non-Muslim to ask this Question from our Shia community, they are Muslims giving shahda as LA LILAHA ILLALLAHU WA MUHAMMADUR RASUL ALLAH. Change your name to knowledge -88
Giving me a certificate of Non-Muslim because I asked a valid question, and then showing that , those who believe Hazrat Ali was a God are Muslim. You just have revealed your identity by showing your thinking. Also you wrote " they are Muslims giving shahda as LA LILAHA ILLALLAHU WA MUHAMMADUR RASUL ALLAH. "

You are wrong. this is not Shia Kalma. No Shia will recite this kalma. It is incomplete for them without saying Ali-ulWali_Ullah. I warn you, not teach me Islam. My education of my religion is a lot more than many in this forum.
 

RealPeople

Minister (2k+ posts)
What kind of question ? Did you see how people reacted when Amir Liaquat said " Ali nay Ali koh bhajah tha ? " Isn't it my right then to ask, if it is every Shia's opinion ? Also did you see my second video, Shia Alims are saying that saying Yah Ali is similar to reading Quran 6000 times. Don't kill the messenger. I am curious , that's why I asked.

Ok. I am shia and i agree that it's a wrong message and concept. I don't agree with the speaker. First time i am hearing of these kind of comments.

Secondly the reason i am ignoring or rejecting these comments is because my intelligence does not accept it. SO YOU SHOULD BE THE SAME AND IGNORE SUCH COMMENTS.

There are many videos of Sunni speakers who don't make sense and we reject them.

Raising these kinds of questions is controversial and smell of sectarian hate
 

Cyber_Security

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Ok. I am shia and i agree that it's a wrong message and concept. I don't agree with the speaker. First time i am hearing of these kind of comments.

Secondly the reason i am ignoring or rejecting these comments is because my intelligence does not accept it. SO YOU SHOULD BE THE SAME AND IGNORE SUCH COMMENTS.

There are many videos of Sunni speakers who don't make sense and we reject them.

Raising these kinds of questions is controversial and smell of sectarian hate
Never wanted to incite sectarian hate. Also thank you for coming out and making it clear that it is not your faith.
 
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