Discrimination against Africans in India - Algazeera article link .

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
 
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/2013/11/africans-decry-discrimination-india-201311139485418912.html
 
Ties between India and Nigeria have hit a new low in the aftermath of the recent murder of a Nigerian in the western Indian state of Goa. http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/2013/11/africans-decry-discrimination-india-201311139485418912.html
The killing led to angry demonstrations by other Nigerian nationals in the state, besides triggering an ugly spat between Indian politicians and Nigerian envoys in the country.
Several senior Goa politicians have described Nigerians in unsavoury terms.
Goa's Art and Culture Minister Dayanand Mandrekar claimed Nigerians were a "cancer", while parliamentarian Shantaram Naik accused them of indulging in drug trade.
With xenophobia sweeping parts of Goa, signs saying "No to Nigerians, No to Drugs" have sprung up in several neighbourhoods.
Following the murder and the subsequent arson, the authorities in Goa have embarked on a drive to detect and deport Nigerians living without valid visas.
The drive has angered Nigerian embassy officials in New Delhi and evoked angry response.
"There are only 50,000 Nigerians living in India, but there are over a million Indians living in Nigeria.Thousands of Indians living there will be thrown out on the streets if the forcible eviction of Nigerians in Goa does not stop," Jacob Nwadibia, an administrative attach of the Nigerian high commission in New Delhi, said.
The incidents have turned the spotlight on the African community in India - Nigerians included - many of whom say they face discrimination and harassment on a daily basis.
They say the phenomenon is not confined just to Goa, but extends to even other major Indian cities.
Wandoh Timothy, 44, from Chad, came face to face with the hatred on the streets of the southern city of Bangalore a few months ago.
Living in India for the past 10 years and married to an Indian, he had got into an argument with two bike riders while on his way to pick up his three-year-old daughter Sya from school.
A mob joined the two riders and assaulted Timothy in full public view. "It was three in the afternoon, and though I am known in the area, no one came to my rescue," Timothy says.
His compatriots say racism towards Africans in India is a daily routine. If not physical assaults, most of them have had to endure attitudes ranging from curiosity to irrational phobia to being treated unfairly.
"My first day in college, I felt like a tourist attraction. It actually took many students a few days to even come up and talk to me,' Fred Kigozi, 25, from Uganda says.
Africans can even inspire reactions such as children running away, women shutting their doors and people staring hard. "It can be very funny sometimes."
Speaking to Al Jazeera, N Mahesh, inspector of police at Yelahanka New Town in Bangalore, said: "The population of Africans in Yelahanka has been growing for the last seven-eight years. There is no discrimination on the basis of race or colour when it comes to African students.
"Whether it is the traffic police or the police, we only take action when they have genuinely violated laws.
"The problem is the vast cultural difference. Africans students tend to be more boisterous, they move around even in the night and like to party. This is perhaps not agreeable with the Indian crowd.
"We have had no law and order problem with the African students. Whenever there has been any misunderstanding with local residents, we first speak to the students who always comply with our advice. I have not found them to be uncooperative."
'Unfair treatment'

As students from African nations like Kenya, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Nigeria, Tanzania, Uganda and Sudan flock to India for pursuing higher studies, stories of being treated unfairly multiply.
Lesm Sosthene, a member of the Association of Ivory Coast students in India, says each academic year brings more disenchanted students.
Agents use airbrushed brochures and deceptive presentations to lure youngsters to various spurious institutions particularly offering courses in information technology.
They shell out a lot of money on flight tickets and college fees to find that many of the colleges are not recognised, do not possess the agreed infrastructure and sometimes do not even offer the courses promised, he says.
Attempts to change a course or college or intimating authorities begins an endless chain of extortion and intimidation. Students are sent back to Africa to change visas, a process they can't afford.
"The decisions are never in favour of the students," he points out.
 
Finding a place to stay in India is another challenge. Francis Missumbi from Kinshasa in DR Congo, who came to India last year, says: "Sometimes we're told a house is not available, only to see it being given to students from other
parts of India."
Aisha Kamira, 22, says a landlady turned her away despite saying she liked her as she was not willing to rent out her apartment to an African.
"Pesky neighbours complain about noise even when just two friends drop in and we're talking behind closed doors," complains Aisha.
Ola Adeboye, a New Delhi-based exporter of Indian garments to Nigeria, says Africans suffer for being stereotyped as trouble-makers and drug traffickers.
This stereotype is then used to exploit and not take their issues seriously.
"The police are always mixing matters. It is not easy for an African to even be heard when one goes to the authorities," Adeboye laments.
Mathew Philip, executive director of the South India Cell for Human Rights Education and Monitoring, concurs, saying non-white foreigners do face discrimination.
"The rights of every one living in India and not just Indian citizens need to be protected," he says.
"Even racially coloured comments are a serious violation and should not be treated trivially."

Meanwhile, months after being assaulted, Timothy is left to nurse his wounds and come to terms with the harsh reality in India alone. His assailants have been set free - released on bail.
There is a touch of melancholy when he points that India has been less than warm in welcoming Africans, compared to the manner Africans have embraced Indians among them in their own continent.
"Africans are familiar with Indians due to the huge diaspora in most parts of Africa. It's only now that Africans are coming here and I feel they are not prepared for us."
 

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
There have been very violent movements of Black Africans against outsiders in the past involving killings but the fact remains and I testify to that personally that Africans in general are more accommodative to Asians than Asians are to Africans when they live here. A major reason is not only color but culture religion and especially the fact while Asians are subdued and businessman like in Africa the blacks are outgoing , fun type , loud in Asia which makes them noticeable. Islamabad has quite a population of Africans and its jails have quite a few also. Asian embassies should screen African students and choose more academic ones for visas , this will satisfy both sides .
 

abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
In Karachi, I remember in childhood days late 1980s everybody used to discriminate and make fun Of MAKRANIS/Africans that were all born in Pakistan. BUt Makranis in Lyari and Baloch coloney played awesome soccer, ghudda garee, and in Cinemas bigger makranis/Black africans used to beat up unruly customers. But man everybody just said bad things about them. Some Makrani women worked as maids/masees in house cleaning same problem. A lot were seen gudyanee old ship breaking yard and Clifton beaches and many joined as Fisherman with small boats. Their songs and language sounded balochi plus sindhi but sounded some zulu african language, same with their dance too african kind of dance.BEST BOXERS ARE MAKRANIS OF KARACHI
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deltaforce

Senator (1k+ posts)
In Karachi, I remember in childhood days late 1980s everybody used to discriminate and make fun Of MAKRANIS/Africans that were all born in Pakistan. BUt Makranis in Lyari and Baloch coloney played awesome soccer, ghudda garee, and in Cinemas bigger makranis/Black africans used to beat up unruly customers. But man everybody just said bad things about them. Some Makrani women worked as maids/masees in house cleaning same problem. A lot were seen gudyanee old ship breaking yard and Clifton beaches and many joined as Fisherman with small boats. Their songs and language sounded balochi plus sindhi but sounded some zulu african language, same with their dance too african kind of dance.BEST BOXERS ARE MAKRANIS OF KARACHI
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nice information .
 

abdlsy

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
nice information .

Sheedis of Pakistan

In Pakistan, locals of Black African descent are called "Makrani", or "Sheedi". They live primarily along the Makran Coast in Balochistan, and lower Sindh. In the city of Karachi, the main Sheedi centre is the area of Lyari and other nearby coastal areas.[SUP][28][/SUP] Technically, the Sheedi are a brotherhood or community distinct from the other Afro-Pakistanis. The Sheedis are divided into four clans, or houses: Kharadar Makan, Hyderabad Makan, Lassi Makan and Belaro Makan.[SUP][29][/SUP] The sufi saint Pir Mangho is regarded by many as the patron saint of the Sheedis, and the annual Sheedi Mela festival, is the key event in the Sheedi community's cultural calendar.[SUP][29][/SUP] Some glimpses of the rituals at Sidi/Sheedi Festival 2010 include visit to sacred alligators at Mangho pir, playing music and dance.[SUP][30][/SUP] Clearly, the instrument, songs and dance appear to be derived from Africa.[SUP][31][/SUP][SUP][32][/SUP]
Linguistically, Makranis are Balochi and Sindhi and speak a dialect of Urdu referred to as Makrani. In Sindh, the Sheedis have traditionally intermarried only with people such as the Mallahs (fisherpeople), Khaskeli (laborers), Khatri (dyeing caste) and Kori (clothmakers).
Famous Sheedis include the historic Sindhi army leader Hoshu Sheedi[SUP][33][/SUP] and Urdu poet Noon Meem Danish.[SUP][34][/SUP][SUP][35][/SUP] Sheedis are also well known for their excellence in sports, especially in football and boxing. The musical anthem of the ruling Pakistan Peoples Party, "Bija Teer", is a Balochi song in the musical style of the Sheedis with Black African style rhythm and drums.[SUP][36][/SUP] Younis Jani is a popular Sheedi singer famous for singing an Urdu version of the reggaeton song "Papi chulo... (te traigo el mmmm...)."[SUP][37][/SUP]
Most Makranis in Pakistan have Black Africans links from the female side. Many Sindhi feudals imported African female slaves; so did the Omani Arabs of Gwadar, a coastal city of Balochistan which was in control of Oman in the 17th century.
Siddis or Sheedis in lower Sindh


Sawan Qambrani, resident of village Syed Matto Shah, Tehsil Bulri Shah Karim, District Tando Muhammad Khan, Sindh


Sheedis are largely populated in different towns and villages in lower Sindh. They are very active in cultural activities and organise annual festivals, like, Habash Festival, with the support of several community organisations. In the local culture, when there is a dance it is not performed by some selected few and watched idly by others but it is participated by all the people present there, ending difference between the performers and the audience.
Sheedis in Sindh also proudly call themselves the Qambranis, Urdu: قمبرانی ‎; Sindhi: قمبراڻي.[SUP][38][/SUP]




The Siddi (Urdu: شیدی ‎; Kannada: ಸಿದ್ಧಿಗಳು; Hindi, Marathi, Konkani: सिद्दी or शीदि/ಸಿದ್ಧಿ; Sindhi: شيدي; Gujarati: સીદી), also known as Siddhi, Sheedi, Habshi or Makrani, are an ethnic group inhabiting India and Pakistan. Members are descended from Bantu peoples from Southeast Africa that were brought to the Indian subcontinent as slaves by Arab and Portuguese merchants.[SUP][1][/SUP] The Siddi community is currently estimated at around 20,000–55,000 individuals, with Karnataka, Gujarat and Hyderabad in India and Makran and Karachi in Pakistan as the main population centres.[SUP][2][/SUP] Siddis are primarily Sufi Muslims, although some are Hindus and others Roman Catholic Christians.[SUP][3][/SUP]
 

deltaforce

Senator (1k+ posts)
Sheedis of Pakistan

In Pakistan, locals of Black African descent are called "Makrani", or "Sheedi". They live primarily along the Makran Coast in Balochistan, and lower Sindh. In the city of Karachi, the main Sheedi centre is the area of Lyari and other nearby coastal areas.[SUP][28][/SUP] Technically, the Sheedi are a brotherhood or community distinct from the other Afro-Pakistanis. The Sheedis are divided into four clans, or houses: Kharadar Makan, Hyderabad Makan, Lassi Makan and Belaro Makan.[SUP][29][/SUP] The sufi saint Pir Mangho is regarded by many as the patron saint of the Sheedis, and the annual Sheedi Mela festival, is the key event in the Sheedi community's cultural calendar.[SUP][29][/SUP] Some glimpses of the rituals at Sidi/Sheedi Festival 2010 include visit to sacred alligators at Mangho pir, playing music and dance.[SUP][30][/SUP] Clearly, the instrument, songs and dance appear to be derived from Africa.[SUP][31][/SUP][SUP][32][/SUP]
Linguistically, Makranis are Balochi and Sindhi and speak a dialect of Urdu referred to as Makrani. In Sindh, the Sheedis have traditionally intermarried only with people such as the Mallahs (fisherpeople), Khaskeli (laborers), Khatri (dyeing caste) and Kori (clothmakers).
Famous Sheedis include the historic Sindhi army leader Hoshu Sheedi[SUP][33][/SUP] and Urdu poet Noon Meem Danish.[SUP][34][/SUP][SUP][35][/SUP] Sheedis are also well known for their excellence in sports, especially in football and boxing. The musical anthem of the ruling Pakistan Peoples Party, "Bija Teer", is a Balochi song in the musical style of the Sheedis with Black African style rhythm and drums.[SUP][36][/SUP] Younis Jani is a popular Sheedi singer famous for singing an Urdu version of the reggaeton song "Papi chulo... (te traigo el mmmm...)."[SUP][37][/SUP]
Most Makranis in Pakistan have Black Africans links from the female side. Many Sindhi feudals imported African female slaves; so did the Omani Arabs of Gwadar, a coastal city of Balochistan which was in control of Oman in the 17th century.
Siddis or Sheedis in lower Sindh


Sawan Qambrani, resident of village Syed Matto Shah, Tehsil Bulri Shah Karim, District Tando Muhammad Khan, Sindh


Sheedis are largely populated in different towns and villages in lower Sindh. They are very active in cultural activities and organise annual festivals, like, Habash Festival, with the support of several community organisations. In the local culture, when there is a dance it is not performed by some selected few and watched idly by others but it is participated by all the people present there, ending difference between the performers and the audience.
Sheedis in Sindh also proudly call themselves the Qambranis, Urdu: قمبرانی ‎; Sindhi: قمبراڻي.[SUP][38][/SUP]




The Siddi (Urdu: شیدی ‎; Kannada: ಸಿದ್ಧಿಗಳು; Hindi, Marathi, Konkani: सिद्दी or शीदि/ಸಿದ್ಧಿ; Sindhi: شيدي; Gujarati: સીદી), also known as Siddhi, Sheedi, Habshi or Makrani, are an ethnic group inhabiting India and Pakistan. Members are descended from Bantu peoples from Southeast Africa that were brought to the Indian subcontinent as slaves by Arab and Portuguese merchants.[SUP][1][/SUP] The Siddi community is currently estimated at around 20,000–55,000 individuals, with Karnataka, Gujarat and Hyderabad in India and Makran and Karachi in Pakistan as the main population centres.[SUP][2][/SUP] Siddis are primarily Sufi Muslims, although some are Hindus and others Roman Catholic Christians.[SUP][3][/SUP]


these people were considered best naval commanders during medual indian history of south india , they were very brave but clever like fox , changing sides rapidly they survived the war between moghul, marathas, qutubshahis and ahmadnagar kingdoms . siddis were always masters of sea and nobody except english were able to subdue effectively . in indian history many people of african descent held important offices , siddi faulad khan was most trusted kotwal of agra during initial years of aurangjeb while shahjehan was imprisioned in laal kila . this guy was responsible to subdue and fail all types of coup attempts which were meant to get shahjehan free and reinstall him on throne.(bigsmile)
 
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Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Blacks in the US and UK are very highly involved in crime and drug culture. They have been living in India for years without much discrimination until now when most Bharatis are again saying that it's not due to race but the drug and crime culture they are involved in which spells danger. Lets also remember how that animal Idi Amin killed and expelled so many innocent South Asians before seeking sanctuary in Saudi. Remember, there are always two sides to a story!

If it's become so intolerable now then let both countries call back there people from the other one then put a firm ban on it. Black's and African's are trouble wherever they go!
 
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