Did The Prophet Have Perfect Memory.

Citizen X

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How do you know writing it down does not mean writing it down to his memory?

Well this is what our esteemed member oBozo X said in the other thread. So did the Prophet had a perfect memory and was a hafiz?


Absolutely not!!!

He would often forget verses of the Quran.

He would find it hard to remember parts of the Quran and had to keep imploring others to keep reminding him.

Sometimes he would hear verses being recited by others and only then remember, Oh! This is from the Quran, I totally forgot about this part.

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observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
He would often forget verses of the Quran.
Even though its UNTRUE and it was only 1-2 instances that are reported in ahadith with a valid reason for its occurrence.
Now even if I want to give it to you, you don't get your way here either coz Quran was also written down. Its a double whammy for you Pervaizis.

You statement means nothing.
He would find it hard to remember parts of the Quran and had to keep imploring others to keep reminding him. Sometimes he would hear verses being recited by others and only then remember, Oh! This is from the Quran, I totally forgot about this part.
And your source is what? You already deny ahadith so you can't use it.
You'll have to time travel now like your hackel and jackel.
 
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Citizen X

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Even though its UNTRUE and it was only 1-2 instances that are reported in ahadith with a valid reason for its occurrence.
Now even if I want to give it to you, you don't get your way here either coz Quran was also written down. Its a double whammy for you Pervaizis.

You statement means nothing and .

And your source is what? You already deny ahadith so you can't use it.
You'll have to time travel now like your hackel and jackel.
I would never say such disgusting and blasphemous things against the holy prophet and nor do I believe it. Because the man Allah chose to relay his final message to mankind till the end of time would have perfect memory by his grace.

I was just quoting a few sahih hadiths for you.

Sahih al-Bukhari (Hadith 5038), where the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ said:
"May Allah have mercy on the man who reminds me of a verse that I may have been made to forget."

Sahih al-Bukhari Hadith 53 and Sahih Muslim Hadith 1114, where the Prophet ﷺ said:
“It is hard for me to retain the Qur'an because I am made to forget it, so remind me if I miss anything.”

Sahih Muslim (Hadith 788):
“The Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, ‘I remember a certain verse (or part of the Qur'an) that I was made to forget, until I heard a man reciting it.’”

So choice is yours, either you deny your sahih hadith and according to many of your scholars if you deny any sahih hadith you are a kaffir or you accept your hadith and accept the blasphemous accusation it makes against the Prophet that he could not even remember the Quran which was revealed to him properly.

So now mr obozo what will it be, become a kaffir or blaspheme against the Prophet.
 

observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
I would never say such disgusting and blasphemous things against the holy prophet and nor do I believe it.
Remember baba ji your position is that you're the denier or sunnah and hadith. Stop using Rasool Allah SAW name from your filthy mouth.
Because the man Allah chose to relay his final message to mankind till the end of time would have perfect memory by his grace.

I was just quoting a few sahih hadiths for you.
You can't have it both ways. Stick to your point of rejecting hadith. Bring some other source outside of hadith to make your another illogical Pervaizi point.

You can't use hadith whenever you like. Its a no no for you.
 

Citizen X

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Remember baba ji your position is that you're the denier or sunnah and hadith. Stop using Rasool Allah SAW name from your filthy mouth.
I follow the Ahsan ul Hadith and the best of sunnah. You on the other hand constantly blaspheme against the Prophet

You can't have it both ways. Stick to your point of rejecting hadith. Bring some other source outside of hadith to make your another illogical Pervaizi point.

You can't use hadith whenever you like. Its a no no for you.
Ah yes new level of dumbassery unlocked! Just when you thought oBozo couldn't get any dumber he lowers the bar even lower

You dawah bro gang don't use the bible against the christians and the vedas against the hindus? Does that mean you believe in the bible and the vedas?

Now stop dodging the question again, so are you a hadith denying kaffir or blasphemer against the prophet?
 

observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
You dawah bro gang don't use the bible against the christians and the vedas against the hindus? Does that mean you believe in the bible and the vedas?
Look look you're falling flat faced again...

We do believe past scriptures have hints of truth not 100%. You deny hadith 100%. Hence you can't use it. Don't be a hypocrite and don't bring hadith for your source.

Get it baba ji or its not time for your medicine as yet?
 

Citizen X

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Look look you're falling flat faced again...

We do believe past scriptures have hints of truth not 100%. You deny hadith 100%. Hence you can't use it. Don't be a hypocrite and don't bring hadith for your source.

Get it baba ji or its not time for your medicine as yet?
Like that everything has hints of truth. Thats a dumbass argument from the master bozo himself.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Now stop running away from the question and answer.

Are you a mukar e hadith or blasphemer against the prophet?
 

Citizen X

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Look look you're falling flat faced again...

We do believe past scriptures have hints of truth not 100%. You deny hadith 100%. Hence you can't use it. Don't be a hypocrite and don't bring hadith for your source.

Get it baba ji or its not time for your medicine as yet?
Here, here is some

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2732
"Zaid bin Harithah arrived in Al-Madinah while the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was in his house. So he went and knocked at the door, so the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) stood naked (1), dragging his garment - and by Allah! I did not see him naked before nor afterwards - and he hugged him and kissed him."

Sunan Abu Dawud 5100
"A shower of rain fell on us when we were with the Messenger of Allah ﷺ. The Messenger of Allah ﷺ went out and removed his garment till some of the rain fell on him. We asked him, 'O Messenger of Allah! Why did you do this?' He replied: 'Because it has recently been with its Lord.'"

Do you deny these sahih hadith as well or choose to blaspheme against the Prophet.
 

KMQ

Voter (50+ posts)
i dont know about intentions but what i figured out that may be one day someone say that because Prophet has not perfect memory, so there should be doubts in Quran. ASTAGFIRULLAH.
We must remember what Quran says:-
Verily, We, it is We Who have sent down the Zikr (i.e. the Quran) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)” [al-Hijr 15:9 interpretation of the meaning]
So, if you doubt prophet memory, than someone can doubt Quran also. SO, don't rise any controversial question or comment about Prophet personality. Please. We all know, Our Prophet had Perfect personality and abilities and power beyond our knowledge.
 

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
i dont know about intentions but what i figured out that may be one day someone say that because Prophet has not perfect memory, so there should be doubts in Quran. ASTAGFIRULLAH.
We must remember what Quran says:-
Verily, We, it is We Who have sent down the Zikr (i.e. the Quran) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)” [al-Hijr 15:9 interpretation of the meaning]
So, if you doubt prophet memory, than someone can doubt Quran also. SO, don't rise any controversial question or comment about Prophet personality. Please. We all know, Our Prophet had Perfect personality and abilities and power beyond our knowledge.

Brother, it is an open season on this forum to use weird logic and have really stupid and blasphemous comments against the Quran and Hadiths regularly.
It is always a few known criminals who are making fun of Islam and its teachings here. You started to question their intentions and their origins. I am sure they are mostly Qadianis, and there is one known Pervaizi here. As we know, their opinions and BS count for naught. That is the fact.
There is one Qadiani who is very well known here and participates almost daily; he has hidden his identity, and he never comments on the threads discussing Islam, in case his identity is busted too.
 

observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
Here, here is some

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2732
"Zaid bin Harithah arrived in Al-Madinah while the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was in his house. So he went and knocked at the door, so the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) stood naked (1), dragging his garment - and by Allah! I did not see him naked before nor afterwards - and he hugged him and kissed him."

Sunan Abu Dawud 5100
"A shower of rain fell on us when we were with the Messenger of Allah ﷺ. The Messenger of Allah ﷺ went out and removed his garment till some of the rain fell on him. We asked him, 'O Messenger of Allah! Why did you do this?' He replied: 'Because it has recently been with its Lord.'"

Do you deny these sahih hadith as well or choose to blaspheme against the Prophet.
You can't use hadith which you deny 100%.

Go bring some other text.
 

Citizen X

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i figured out that may be one day someone say that because Prophet has not perfect memory, so there should be doubts in Quran.
That is exactly my point buddy, enemies of Islam cannot attack or change the Quran itself so they use the next best thing, the so called sahih hadith. They attack the character of the prophet, his companions and so on, Even if you look at all the anti islam sites, youtuber etc etc 99.9% their attacks or objections are not from the Quran but from these hadith.
 

observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
That is exactly my point buddy, enemies of Islam cannot attack or change the Quran itself so they use the next best thing, the so called sahih hadith. They attack the character of the prophet, his companions and so on, Even if you look at all the anti islam sites, youtuber etc etc 99.9% their attacks or objections are not from the Quran but from these hadith.
Ok, so you're referring to yourself when you say enemies here. Your confession noted.
 

Citizen X

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karachiwalay bhai saab, what are you disliking my post? I am just quoting what some of your sahih hadith are saying about the Prophet. If you have dislike it, click thumbs down on your sahih hadith
 

Wake up Pak

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karachiwalay bhai saab, what are you disliking my post? I am just quoting what some of your sahih hadith are saying about the Prophet. If you have dislike it, click thumbs down on your sahih hadith
No matter what you post to convince the blind followers, they will always dislike you or label you as Pervaizi, Qadiani, Kaafir, Murtid etc.
And the worst part is that they don't have anything concrete to counter the argument with logic and rationality.
As I have been saying, "They are Allergic to Quran".
 
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Citizen X

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No matter what you post to convince the blind followers, they will always dislike you or label you as Pervaizi, Qadiani, Kaafir, Murtid etc.
And the worst part is that they don't have anything concrete to counter the argument with logic and rationality.
As I have been saying, "They are Allergic to Quran".
This was a deliberate trap set by me to show these people what stupidity they are following. Otherwise you know if I post something I will always provide a reference be it a verse from the Quran or passage from hadith, just so later someone later cannot say I am making stuff up here. And that is also one of the reasons why there has been deathly silence on my exposes on their hadith books. Because anyone can go look up all the references I have mentioned at each step of the way to see if I am making up any lies or stories

Here I laid a trap mainly for oBozo X by excluding the hadith references and wording it slightly different, and of course he ended up badly entangled in it.

Now anyone who just reads the first posts and dislikes it is actually disliking their own sahih hadith and according to them becoming a munkar e hadith themselves!!!!

And yes 100% true and I will remember this saying forever that they are allergic to Quran. Kabhi kabhi aap se bi asi cheezain sarzad ho jati hain 😁
 

observer-x

MPA (400+ posts)
Here we go Citizen X and Wake up Pak hackel and jackels propping each other up. You both definitely need it after that much an insult.

Proud Saved By The Bell GIF
 

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