Did Pakistan Army shelter Osama?

IndiaGuy

Senator (1k+ posts)
Abbottabad Osama bin Laden was holed up in a two-story house 100 yards from a Pakistani military academy when four helicopters carrying U.S. forces swooped early Monday, killing the world's most wanted man and leaving his final hiding place in flames, Pakistani officials and a witness said.
They said bin Laden's guards opened fire from the roof of the compound in the small northwestern town of Abbottabad, and one of the choppers crashed. However U.S. officials said no Americans were hurt in the operation. The sound of at least two explosions rocked Abbottabad as the fighting raged.

The discovery that bin Laden was living in an Army town in Pakistan raises pointed questions about how he managed to evade capture and even whether Pakistan's military and intelligence leadership knew of his whereabouts and sheltered him.

Critics have long accused elements of Pakistan's security establishment of protecting bin Laden, though Islamabad has always denied this. Army and government officials gave no formal comment Monday.

Most intelligence assessments believed bin Laden was holed up somewhere along the lawless border area between Pakistan and Afghanistan, possibly in a cave and sheltered by loyal tribesmen. That region is remote, homes to soaring mountains and the Pakistan state has little or no presence in much of it.

It was not known how long bin Laden had been in Abbottabad, which is surrounded by hills and is less than half a days drive from the border region with Afghanistan and two hours from the capital, Islamabad.

It was also unclear how much of a role _ if any _ Pakistani security forces played in the operation. A Pakistani official said the choppers took off from Ghazi air base in northwest Pakistan, where the U.S. army was based to help out in the aftermath of the floods in 2010.

Pakistani officials said a son of bin Laden and three other people were killed.

Other unidentified males were taken by helicopter away from the scene, while four children and two woman left in an ambulance, the official said.

Abbottabad resident Mohammad Haroon Rasheed said the raid happened about 1:15 a.m. local time.

I heard a thundering sound, followed by heavy firing. Then firing suddenly stopped. Then more thundering, then a big blast,'' he said. ``In the morning when we went out to see what happened, some helicopter wreckage was lying in an open field.''

He said the house was 100 meters (yards) away from the gate of the Kakul Military Academy, an army run institution where top officers train. A Pakistan intelligence official said the property where bin Laden was staying was 3,000 square feet.

A Pakistani official in the town said fighters on the roof opened fire on the choppers as they came close to the building with rocket propelled grenades. Another official said four helicopters took off from the Ghazi air base in northwest Pakistan.

Last summer, the U.S. army was based in Ghazi to help out in the aftermath of the floods.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information.

Pakistan has in the past cooperated with the CIA in arresting al-Qaida suspects on its soil, but relations between its main intelligence agency and the CIA had been very strained in recent months amid tensions over the future of Afghanistan.

In late January, a senior Indonesian al-Qaida operative, Umar Patek, was arrested at another location in Abbottabad.

News of his arrest only broke in late March. A Pakistani intelligence official said its officers were led to the house where Patek was staying after they arrested an al-Qaida facilitator, Faisal Shahzad, who worked at the post office there.
 

Narcissist

Banned
Question: Did Pakistan Army shelter Osama?
Answer : ........very big Yes.

America knew from the beginning that ISI will never let them catch '' Big Fish''. They thought that rightly so, and time proved them right in their strategy, so at the end of 2007, they send spies like Raymond Davis, who were sniff the air and dirt to find the track. So now on 2nd of May 2011, is as big day as 9/11.
 
T

terex

Guest
No ...Pakistan army had no clue about obama !!!
America is trying to attack pakistan by spreadin fake news about obama death..
obama died 10 years ago...

Bla..bla.......................................................Zahil hamid will come out with all these consipracy theory soon >
 

Night_Hawk

Siasat.pk - Blogger
No ...Pakistan army had no clue about obama !!!
America is trying to attack pakistan by spreadin fake news about obama death..
obama died 10 years ago...

Bla..bla.......................................................Zahil hamid will come out with all these consipracy theory soon >
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Very interesting... Let see who is__________
 

Cornatto

Citizen
Hello................ Plz Indian stop spreading rumours like kids.................. dont you know what USA does with Pak and with India as well?......... they are enemy to both of us........Stop blaming Pak Army..............If Pak Army sheltered Osama, american could never reach him..........!!!
 

hammad78

MPA (400+ posts)
Don't spread rumors Idiot Indian

Abbottabad Osama bin Laden was holed up in a two-story house 100 yards from a Pakistani military academy when four helicopters carrying U.S. forces swooped early Monday, killing the world's most wanted man and leaving his final hiding place in flames, Pakistani officials and a witness said.
They said bin Laden's guards opened fire from the roof of the compound in the small northwestern town of Abbottabad, and one of the choppers crashed. However U.S. officials said no Americans were hurt in the operation. The sound of at least two explosions rocked Abbottabad as the fighting raged.

The discovery that bin Laden was living in an Army town in Pakistan raises pointed questions about how he managed to evade capture and even whether Pakistan's military and intelligence leadership knew of his whereabouts and sheltered him.

Critics have long accused elements of Pakistan's security establishment of protecting bin Laden, though Islamabad has always denied this. Army and government officials gave no formal comment Monday.

Most intelligence assessments believed bin Laden was holed up somewhere along the lawless border area between Pakistan and Afghanistan, possibly in a cave and sheltered by loyal tribesmen. That region is remote, homes to soaring mountains and the Pakistan state has little or no presence in much of it.

It was not known how long bin Laden had been in Abbottabad, which is surrounded by hills and is less than half a days drive from the border region with Afghanistan and two hours from the capital, Islamabad.

It was also unclear how much of a role _ if any _ Pakistani security forces played in the operation. A Pakistani official said the choppers took off from Ghazi air base in northwest Pakistan, where the U.S. army was based to help out in the aftermath of the floods in 2010.

Pakistani officials said a son of bin Laden and three other people were killed.

Other unidentified males were taken by helicopter away from the scene, while four children and two woman left in an ambulance, the official said.

Abbottabad resident Mohammad Haroon Rasheed said the raid happened about 1:15 a.m. local time.

“I heard a thundering sound, followed by heavy firing. Then firing suddenly stopped. Then more thundering, then a big blast,'' he said. ``In the morning when we went out to see what happened, some helicopter wreckage was lying in an open field.''

He said the house was 100 meters (yards) away from the gate of the Kakul Military Academy, an army run institution where top officers train. A Pakistan intelligence official said the property where bin Laden was staying was 3,000 square feet.

A Pakistani official in the town said fighters on the roof opened fire on the choppers as they came close to the building with rocket propelled grenades. Another official said four helicopters took off from the Ghazi air base in northwest Pakistan.

Last summer, the U.S. army was based in Ghazi to help out in the aftermath of the floods.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information.

Pakistan has in the past cooperated with the CIA in arresting al-Qaida suspects on its soil, but relations between its main intelligence agency and the CIA had been very strained in recent months amid tensions over the future of Afghanistan.

In late January, a senior Indonesian al-Qaida operative, Umar Patek, was arrested at another location in Abbottabad.

News of his arrest only broke in late March. A Pakistani intelligence official said its officers were led to the house where Patek was staying after they arrested an al-Qaida facilitator, Faisal Shahzad, who worked at the post office there.
 

usmanjee786

MPA (400+ posts)
Inshahallah time will come when will have very gud relations wid khalistan govt wid kashmir asaam and naga land........india ko hum sey ziadaa khatraa apney ap say hai wjy they r in pakistan phobia............
 

concern_paki

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
All countries which opposes Pakistan in past will put this blame on Pakistan Army .....and in reality it would be very hard for us to defend us as well..... We are facing the wost time of our history ... On one side there is Al-Qaida who blames Pakistan to get their leader killed and on the hand American will put blames on us .......
 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Do not answer to the barking dogs let them spit venom and there will be time they all would have to keep their mouth shut or else will have to be ready for a nice punch.... Pakistan Zindabaad
 

hans

Banned
Remember this ... History repeat it self....

April 15, 1988|From Times Wire ServicesPresident Zia ul-Haq said Thursday that he believes sabotage caused Sunday's explosion at a Pakistan ammunition dump that killed at least 98 people, but he said an official inquiry would give the final word.
"It could be an accident, but in my own personal assessment, it was a very effective act of sabotage," he said at a news media lunch at his residence. "It couldn't be anything else.


We all know why this all happened..Pak army was not able to account for missing Stringer Missile.




The President of Pakistan, General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq died in a plane crash on August 17, 1988,


A United States prosecutor's comment that Pakistanis would 'sell their mothers for a few thousand dollars' has created much ado between the two countries.
The prosecutor had made the remark during the trial of Ajmal Kansi, who allegedly killed two CIA officials in Washington a couple of years ago.



The siege of Lal Masjid (Urdu: لال مسجد محاصرہ, code-named Operation Sunrise)



This is how we Rob other people off there backs.



Same equation goes for UBL, His funds dried up... So like an old Faithful Cow .. you sell her off. Same we did with other Rich Arabs..



Basically My Paki friends will get upset... but we collectively should change our Country name from Pakistan to

"Banaras Ke Thug"

We fool Both the Arab fighters and USA. On one hand we project our selves as God loving creatures and side with the Taliban elements.. but as the funds dry up ..in a blink of an eye we switch sides for US visa and $$$$.


 

GeoG

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Remember this ... History repeat it self....

April 15, 1988|From Times Wire ServicesPresident Zia ul-Haq said Thursday that he believes sabotage caused Sunday's explosion at a Pakistan ammunition dump that killed at least 98 people, but he said an official inquiry would give the final word.
"It could be an accident, but in my own personal assessment, it was a very effective act of sabotage," he said at a news media lunch at his residence. "It couldn't be anything else.


We all know why this all happened..Pak army was not able to account for missing Stringer Missile.




The President of Pakistan, General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq died in a plane crash on August 17, 1988,


A United States prosecutor's comment that Pakistanis would 'sell their mothers for a few thousand dollars' has created much ado between the two countries.
The prosecutor had made the remark during the trial of Ajmal Kansi, who allegedly killed two CIA officials in Washington a couple of years ago.



The siege of Lal Masjid (Urdu: لال مسجد محاصرہ, code-named Operation Sunrise)



This is how we Rob other people off there backs.



Same equation goes for UBL, His funds dried up... So like an old Faithful Cow .. you sell her off. Same we did with other Rich Arabs..



Basically My Paki friends will get upset... but we collectively should change our Country name from Pakistan to

"Banaras Ke Thug"

We fool Both the Arab fighters and USA. On one hand we project our selves as God loving creatures and side with the Taliban elements.. but as the funds dry up ..in a blink of an eye we switch sides for US visa and $$$$.



Put your own religion right first, Mole
Your prophets were sold for money...


The Book of Genesis tells how Joseph was the eleventh of Jacob's twelve sons and Rachel's firstborn.[2] Joseph was sold into slavery by his jealous brothers, yet rose to become the most powerful man in Egypt next to Pharaoh. When famine struck the land he brought the sons of Israel down to Egypt, where they were settled in the Land of Goshen.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Inshahallah time will come when will have very gud relations wid khalistan govt wid kashmir asaam and naga land........india ko hum sey ziadaa khatraa apney ap say hai wjy they r in pakistan phobia............

you took the word right out of my mouth. Khalistan is now long overdue. it will be slow process but we shall accomplish it. Poor Sikhs need their home call Khalistan where they can define their own destiny, devise laws as they want, no need to serve the Hindu zionists, kill poor, innocent, and unarmed civilian Muslims, in Kashmir and all around, just because Hindu zionists wants to fire guns on the shoulder of Sikhs. Sikhs know it and they are waiting for the right time to explode on streets and demands independence


Khalistan Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Remember this ... History repeat it self....

"Banaras Ke Thug"





I thought about your recommendation to rename Pakistan to Banaras Ke Thug

After giving much consideration I arrived at the conclusion that the existing name Pakistan is much better, has charms, and sounds wonderful.

But during the the brainstorming on your suggestions, i did come up with a new name for yourself.

Your new name should be Attila the Bum. Please let us know if its acceptable to you before we start calling you by your new name.
 

FaisalKh

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I thought about your recommendation to rename Pakistan to Banaras Ke Thug

After giving much consideration I arrived at the conclusion that the existing name Pakistan is much better, has charms, and sounds wonderful.

But during the the brainstorming on your suggestions, i did come up with a new name for yourself.

Your new name should be Attila the Bum. Please let us know if its acceptable to you before we start calling you by your new name.

Hahahahahah i did not understand the meaning but pronunciation is very amusing....
 

rana14801

Senator (1k+ posts)
simple answer is if Pakistan army was giving any protection to Bin Laden, americans or any other could never reach him. distance of the hose fro academy is NOT 100 yards but about little mose than 800 yards because Abbottabad is a small town.we never know unless videos r released because every US soldier has a camera in his helmet. just do not jump on our COC... and start blaming Pakistan.just wait and see. id Sadam's complete video from his arrest to death could come out why not Bin laden's?and where is HIS BODY?
 

tiger54

MPA (400+ posts)
i do not think a terrorist leader can be in any country without the knowledge of its intelligence services. its just NOT POSSIBLE!!!
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Look everybody

dont worry too much. Rest assure this has been a joint effort by Obama and Zardari to shore up popularity of each in his country. There is nothing else is here. Both have agreed to do it because 1. Obama will benefit 1000 times at least temporarily. 2. I am sure Zardari has got assurances from Obama that he would suport zardari to win elections again. There has been an agreement reached between the two in exchange for this new Shakespeare drama.

If Osama was hiding in Abbotabad under army protection, you think Obama would have not mentioned it??? no way, this would have given yahoods million chances to malign our country's army and intelligence. all $ aids would have been annouced to stop. There would have threats, warning, accusations 24/7 from Washington upon Islamabad.

I just heard Alex Jones say that the Obama Admin admitted that the pic was a work of photoshopp.

Downed US Chopper: People are claiming that 1. it was brought down by our army 2. US claims it went down due to mechanical failure.

We all know that when a US crafts licks the ground, it always happen because of 'mechanical failure'. I believe 100% that neither may be true. It must have brought down by the Osama gang inside the compound, if in fact this raid WAS TO GET OSAMA, which appears to be a staged drama to begin with.

So nothing worse is going to happen with Pakistan. Obama has set stage for exit from Afghanistan and show it as necessary because 'we got whom we wanted'

But the only problem that is going to haunt Obama is: what if American people starts asking for the body of Ladin?? Why was it thrown (if it was) into the sea. is it really an Islamic law to sink a dead body? they could have taken to NYc and do the namaz janaza at the ground zero.


Obama may have inadvertently walked on self engineered mouse trap
 

only_truths

Minister (2k+ posts)
you took the word right out of my mouth. Khalistan is now long overdue. it will be slow process but we shall accomplish it. Poor Sikhs need their home call Khalistan where they can define their own destiny, devise laws as they want, no need to serve the Hindu zionists, kill poor, innocent, and unarmed civilian Muslims, in Kashmir and all around, just because Hindu zionists wants to fire guns on the shoulder of Sikhs. Sikhs know it and they are waiting for the right time to explode on streets and demands independence


Khalistan Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad

I am ardent student of history. I read in text books that Maharaja Ranjit Singh ruled from Lahore and most of kingdom now part of Pakistan.
250px-Sikh_Empire.JPG


Quote: Ranjit Singh was crowned on 12 April 1801 (to coincide with Baisakhi). Sahib Singh Bedi, a descendant of Guru Nanak Dev, conducted the coronation[23]. Gujranwala served as his capital from 1799. In 1802 he shifted his capital to Lahore. Ranjit Singh rose to power in a very short period, from a leader of a single Sikh misl to finally becoming the Maharaja (Emperor) of Punjab.
He then spent the following years fighting the Afghans, driving them out of the Punjab. He also captured Pashtun territory including Peshawar (now referred to as North West Frontier Province and the Tribal Areas). This was the first time that Peshawari Pashtuns were ruled by Punjabis. He captured the province of Multan which encompassed the southern parts of Punjab, Peshawar (1818), Jammu and Kashmir (1819). Thus Ranjit Singh put an end to more than a thousand years of Muslim rule. (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranjit_Singh).

unquote: But that is history. But today, Hindus, Sikhs and other religions living in India are happy to be part of a great country and would like to move on in life rather than day dreaming.