man just post of this video is only that.bcz here some paid mqm peopls r showing 2/3 pic .and doing some bad propganda that .khi belong only to mqm .i dont know what kind of complex they have.i also live in khi and lahore both .and i like both bcz its my cities.i did not say i am urdu speaking so i am batter than punjabi phtan bloch.sindhi.but here i saw mostly mqm peopls have this complex.they spreading hate ..i dont know why they do to much hate against others cities of pakistan.ya its ok if they said something bad or criticism to leader of other parties.they said we occupied karachi now we r going to punjab or nwfp. they forgot in karachi how much Ethnic tensions .due phtans.blochi .sindhi.afgan .mahjir.and when little bit happend .these parties worker burnt all karachi.and who got loss only common peopls.and if they continues this hate and propganda against punjabies they will also go agianst him.so they should carefull .and make peace and more beautiful karachi .kun ka ma in ke traha sirf karachi ko apna city nhai sumjta .all pakistan is mine bcz i am pakistani no punjabi bloch sindhi phtan or others.
Did mqm really change karachi.?
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one24 prawa... assi chaney haan k koi aavey jadu di chari ghumavey aur 1 minute vich sab badal jaavey. aisa nahi hoonda yaara. 4 saal vich jo mustafa bhai ney karachi vich keeta haiga oonu dunya mandi haigi aur agley 4 saalan de vich agar MQM karachi nu dubai jaisa vi kardey taan vi saada punjab khush nahi hovey ga. aye saadi oo nafrat jey jo saadey dilaan vich bhar di gaye jey 1992 tu MQM de khilaaf. saadi genration mqm da naam vi sunna nahi chandi.
meri ek khalu khala line zeyriya tey ab cenia line rehndey ney. bara ghareeb ilaka haiga. una dey ghar tor kar othey road banana chandey ney karachi di hukumat aur meri khala nu aur uthey rehney waley sarey logan nu aik aik plot ditta ja reya haiga jeri keemat 12-15lakh haigi. zyada tar loog o khushi khushi ley rahey ney. meri khala dey ghar di keemat 7lakh vi nahi hooni. kehney da maqsad aye haiga k har kaam aahista aahista hoonda changa lagda vey. aur karachi dey har ghareeb tak mqm aavey gi INSHALLAH. bas thora aur waqt chaeyda haiga. har karachi wala mustafa kamal ki tareef kardey nahi thakda per assi log sirf nafrat da beij boye beithey hain. aye ghalat haiga prawa.
paki_loyal parawa.. mein jadoon vi karachi jaana haan apni khala khalu dey ghar rukna haan. o karachi dey ghareeb tareen ilakey dey vich rehndey ney. un k ghar tey 24 ghantey saaf paani aanda haiga. pata nahi tuadey ghar kyun nahi aanda? lagta hai tussi andruney sindh rehndey ho. kuch bhi kaho MQM de kaam nu karachi vich koi nahi jhutla sakda.
jeeeyeeeeeeee MQMMMMMMMMMMMM tey MQM di soch.. mein teinu apney gujrat ley kar jaana he jaana.. Rab rakha prawa
meri ek khalu khala line zeyriya tey ab cenia line rehndey ney. bara ghareeb ilaka haiga. una dey ghar tor kar othey road banana chandey ney karachi di hukumat aur meri khala nu aur uthey rehney waley sarey logan nu aik aik plot ditta ja reya haiga jeri keemat 12-15lakh haigi. zyada tar loog o khushi khushi ley rahey ney. meri khala dey ghar di keemat 7lakh vi nahi hooni. kehney da maqsad aye haiga k har kaam aahista aahista hoonda changa lagda vey. aur karachi dey har ghareeb tak mqm aavey gi INSHALLAH. bas thora aur waqt chaeyda haiga. har karachi wala mustafa kamal ki tareef kardey nahi thakda per assi log sirf nafrat da beij boye beithey hain. aye ghalat haiga prawa.
paki_loyal parawa.. mein jadoon vi karachi jaana haan apni khala khalu dey ghar rukna haan. o karachi dey ghareeb tareen ilakey dey vich rehndey ney. un k ghar tey 24 ghantey saaf paani aanda haiga. pata nahi tuadey ghar kyun nahi aanda? lagta hai tussi andruney sindh rehndey ho. kuch bhi kaho MQM de kaam nu karachi vich koi nahi jhutla sakda.
jeeeyeeeeeeee MQMMMMMMMMMMMM tey MQM di soch.. mein teinu apney gujrat ley kar jaana he jaana.. Rab rakha prawa
Paki_Loyal
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
door k dhol suhanay,, Faisal bhai, Main androon e sindh nahi main Clifton k area main rehta hoo, aur Alhamdulillah hamarey area main MQM ka koi unit nahi koi sector office nahi, hamara area hameshan se safe heaven raha hai, jaha kabhi bhe hungamay firing jlaao ghiraao nahi hota, kiun k hamarey area main MQM exist nahi kerti.
Mustafa Kamal ne Naimat Ullah Khan sahab k kaam ko continue keeya,, Karachi ka mayer to Farooq sattar bhe bana tha, uss ne to kuch nahi keeya karachi main,,, main itna credit doon ga Mustafa Kamal ko k uss ne Naimat Ulla Khan sahab k kaam ko continue rekha,, ye achi baat hai. Jahan tak paani ka sawal hai, main ne apney gher ke nahi, poorey area ke baat ke hai janab,, aur main 100% agree kerta hoo k karachi k jitney bhe gareebo k areas hein waha koi devolpment nahi hoi,, Korangi, Orangi town, liaqta baad, dehli colony,PNT. Lines Area,, Khara dar,, and many more,, karachi ke 40% abaadi Korangi k areas main rehti hai,, jahan gurbat hai,, jaha 8 saal ka bacha aur bachi factories main kaam kertey hein, wahan sehat ke koi myari sahooliyat nahi,, wahan mustafa kamal ne education aur health k liay kuch nahi keeya,, korangi road bhe Naimat Ullah Khan sahab ne complete keeya tha,, jo karachi main rehta hai,, wahi karachi ko internally janta hai,, aur agar MQM ne kaam keeya bhe hai to koi ihsaan nahi keeya, hamarey he tax ke money ko use keya hai, koi apney pocket se nahi lgaya sara pesa,, aur ye uss ke duties main shamil tha, jese PPP walay aaj tak Bhutto k naam per gareeb logo ko bewaqoof bana ker aaj tak vote hasil kertey rahay, BB shaheed k qatal ka najaie faida uthaa ker parliament main pohanchay,, aisey he MQM walay karachi main kaam kerwa ker punjab aur doosrey areas ko apnay kaam se mutasir ker rahay hein,, MQM itni he hamdard hai gareebo ke to aaj tak MQM ne mihngai k khilaaf koi rally ya muzahira kiun nahi keeya? kiun PPP ke govt ko blackmail nahi keeya k aap mihngai per control karo werna ham resign day dein gay,, hameshan apnay mufaadat ke khatir her govt ko black mail kerti rahi,, main karachi main last 22 saal se reh raha hoo, and i know k MQM ka asli chehra kia hai,, aap log door bhaithey ho,, arey meri aankho k samnay 1987 main jacob line sadar k area main aik pathan bacha jis ke umer 6 saal thi jaltey howay tandoor main zinda phaink dia tha, meri eyes k samnay aik person se altaf hussain ke photo phaara tha to ussi waqt ussey golioo se bhoon dia tha,
Mustafa Kamal ne Naimat Ullah Khan sahab k kaam ko continue keeya,, Karachi ka mayer to Farooq sattar bhe bana tha, uss ne to kuch nahi keeya karachi main,,, main itna credit doon ga Mustafa Kamal ko k uss ne Naimat Ulla Khan sahab k kaam ko continue rekha,, ye achi baat hai. Jahan tak paani ka sawal hai, main ne apney gher ke nahi, poorey area ke baat ke hai janab,, aur main 100% agree kerta hoo k karachi k jitney bhe gareebo k areas hein waha koi devolpment nahi hoi,, Korangi, Orangi town, liaqta baad, dehli colony,PNT. Lines Area,, Khara dar,, and many more,, karachi ke 40% abaadi Korangi k areas main rehti hai,, jahan gurbat hai,, jaha 8 saal ka bacha aur bachi factories main kaam kertey hein, wahan sehat ke koi myari sahooliyat nahi,, wahan mustafa kamal ne education aur health k liay kuch nahi keeya,, korangi road bhe Naimat Ullah Khan sahab ne complete keeya tha,, jo karachi main rehta hai,, wahi karachi ko internally janta hai,, aur agar MQM ne kaam keeya bhe hai to koi ihsaan nahi keeya, hamarey he tax ke money ko use keya hai, koi apney pocket se nahi lgaya sara pesa,, aur ye uss ke duties main shamil tha, jese PPP walay aaj tak Bhutto k naam per gareeb logo ko bewaqoof bana ker aaj tak vote hasil kertey rahay, BB shaheed k qatal ka najaie faida uthaa ker parliament main pohanchay,, aisey he MQM walay karachi main kaam kerwa ker punjab aur doosrey areas ko apnay kaam se mutasir ker rahay hein,, MQM itni he hamdard hai gareebo ke to aaj tak MQM ne mihngai k khilaaf koi rally ya muzahira kiun nahi keeya? kiun PPP ke govt ko blackmail nahi keeya k aap mihngai per control karo werna ham resign day dein gay,, hameshan apnay mufaadat ke khatir her govt ko black mail kerti rahi,, main karachi main last 22 saal se reh raha hoo, and i know k MQM ka asli chehra kia hai,, aap log door bhaithey ho,, arey meri aankho k samnay 1987 main jacob line sadar k area main aik pathan bacha jis ke umer 6 saal thi jaltey howay tandoor main zinda phaink dia tha, meri eyes k samnay aik person se altaf hussain ke photo phaara tha to ussi waqt ussey golioo se bhoon dia tha,
Paki_Loyal
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
meri aankho k samnay jab karachi main cerfew laga tha to ye MQM ke aurtein raat ko chut per khari ho ker army k jawano ko pathar maarti thi, un per garam paani phainkti thi,, karachi main bohat se aisey no go areas they jaha MQM k worker sarr e aam aslaah lay ker ghoomtey thay, koi doosrey area ka fard un no go areas main janay se darta tha, jab police ka rate hota tha to ye bunker bana ker un per andha dhun firing kertey thay,, MQM ko bohat qareeb se dekha hai main ne,, ye qatal kerne k baad masoom bun jatay hein, aur ilzaam doosro per daal dete hein,, aaj ye jo masoom aur mazloom banay howay hein, in ka past aur abhi tak present aisey senkroo masoom logo ke jaan se ranga hoowa hai, uss devolpment ko kia kerna hai jab log khauf k marey gher he se na niklein,,
Faisal parawa hosh de nakhun lay,,, aj teri khala nu agar 15 lukh da plot lub gaya way tay tu MQM de geet gaan lug paya wein..matlab aife ooya na k pesa dey k MQM walya nay twaanu khareed laya way,, apni khala kolu av puch laina c k 1988 which aur 1992 which karachi which ke oonda c..
Kisi ne sahi kaha tha k ye qoum pese ke khatir apni maan ko bhe baich daalti hai, jese zardari ne 1.5 billion $ k liay pooray mulk ko america k aagay sale ker dia.. aur aap ne 15 laakh k plot k peachay apna zameer baich dia.. aur MQM k geet ganay lag gay, hum main se her doosra pakistani kisi na kisi lihaaz se corrupt hai, jis ko jab moka milta hai wo chor ya hera pheri ya safarish se nahi jata.. aik govt office k chaprasi se lay ker president house tak jis ko moka milta hai wahi charoo hatho se rishwat, corruptionaur choriya kerta hai.
Faisal parawa hosh de nakhun lay,,, aj teri khala nu agar 15 lukh da plot lub gaya way tay tu MQM de geet gaan lug paya wein..matlab aife ooya na k pesa dey k MQM walya nay twaanu khareed laya way,, apni khala kolu av puch laina c k 1988 which aur 1992 which karachi which ke oonda c..
Kisi ne sahi kaha tha k ye qoum pese ke khatir apni maan ko bhe baich daalti hai, jese zardari ne 1.5 billion $ k liay pooray mulk ko america k aagay sale ker dia.. aur aap ne 15 laakh k plot k peachay apna zameer baich dia.. aur MQM k geet ganay lag gay, hum main se her doosra pakistani kisi na kisi lihaaz se corrupt hai, jis ko jab moka milta hai wo chor ya hera pheri ya safarish se nahi jata.. aik govt office k chaprasi se lay ker president house tak jis ko moka milta hai wahi charoo hatho se rishwat, corruptionaur choriya kerta hai.
It is unusual as well as wastage of time and energy to response the posts of MQM paid agents. The actual facts are:
MQM is the representative of a minority of the group which are counted in the upper / upper middle classes. They have no pain or respect to the poor masses of country or even Karachi.
Their main objective is to serve these privileged classes and to strengthen the existing exploitation system.
It was created by the agencies to get support to continue the dictatorship and to divide the masses on the basis of language, cast, and religion.
They were always used and are being use as the agent of internal and foreign powers to destabilise the democratic process
In return their leaders got a big amount of money from national exchequer and further they were given free hand to get BHATTA and corruption in the different government organizations.
There are thousands of peoples belonging to MQM who were living in rental homes in 80s and nowadays they have properties of billions not only in Pakistan but in Dubai, England, USA and Canada etc.
The so-called development of Karachi is a big story of corruption, where the nation funds were used lavishly.
These funds were used on the cost of the rest of nation and the poor formers and Baluchs etc on whom resources they got unfair funding from the dictators. The main contributors of our national wealth are our poor farmers and the Baluch / Pakhtoons who produces the cotton, wheat, Gas / electricity etc, and in return they got nothing. They are still living in a deprived status and all their resources are being misused to facilitate a particular privileged class of big cities, in particular Karachi. This is the main reasons of present unrest in the country in particular to most neglected Baluchistan, Frontier, southern Punjab, Interior Sindh etc.
We should expose all these injustice by a particular group of privileged class of big cities, who has captured all the national resources and exploiting the poor and real hardworking peoples of the country.
MQM is the representative of a minority of the group which are counted in the upper / upper middle classes. They have no pain or respect to the poor masses of country or even Karachi.
Their main objective is to serve these privileged classes and to strengthen the existing exploitation system.
It was created by the agencies to get support to continue the dictatorship and to divide the masses on the basis of language, cast, and religion.
They were always used and are being use as the agent of internal and foreign powers to destabilise the democratic process
In return their leaders got a big amount of money from national exchequer and further they were given free hand to get BHATTA and corruption in the different government organizations.
There are thousands of peoples belonging to MQM who were living in rental homes in 80s and nowadays they have properties of billions not only in Pakistan but in Dubai, England, USA and Canada etc.
The so-called development of Karachi is a big story of corruption, where the nation funds were used lavishly.
These funds were used on the cost of the rest of nation and the poor formers and Baluchs etc on whom resources they got unfair funding from the dictators. The main contributors of our national wealth are our poor farmers and the Baluch / Pakhtoons who produces the cotton, wheat, Gas / electricity etc, and in return they got nothing. They are still living in a deprived status and all their resources are being misused to facilitate a particular privileged class of big cities, in particular Karachi. This is the main reasons of present unrest in the country in particular to most neglected Baluchistan, Frontier, southern Punjab, Interior Sindh etc.
We should expose all these injustice by a particular group of privileged class of big cities, who has captured all the national resources and exploiting the poor and real hardworking peoples of the country.
Truth is always written on the walls. The repeated lies of MQM and their supporters can't change the facts. They are the beneficiary of the corruption and exploting the rest of the peoples of the country as well as the poor (65%) of Karachi, living in miserable conditions.
Thake a tiny example of their attitude. Their Port minister baber Ghauri installed a fountain of millions on the expanses of the goverment / Port authority, just to please some one. Imagine in a country, where the majority of the peoples has no access to clean drinking water, health, education and other basic facilities, they are lavishly expanding public money on these things.
There are thousands of such cases, where they used public money to get personal benefits. If any one has doudts in it, let's ask the Altaf and other leaders of MQM to declare their assets and the means to acquire them.
Thake a tiny example of their attitude. Their Port minister baber Ghauri installed a fountain of millions on the expanses of the goverment / Port authority, just to please some one. Imagine in a country, where the majority of the peoples has no access to clean drinking water, health, education and other basic facilities, they are lavishly expanding public money on these things.
There are thousands of such cases, where they used public money to get personal benefits. If any one has doudts in it, let's ask the Altaf and other leaders of MQM to declare their assets and the means to acquire them.
Truth is always written on the walls. The repeated lies of MQM and their supporters can't change the real facts. They are the beneficiary of the corruption and exploiting the rest of the peoples of the country as well as the poor (65%) of Karachi, living in Kutchi abadies in miserable conditions.
Take a tiny example of their attitude. Their Port minister Baber Ghauri installed a fountain of millions on the expanses of the government / Port authority, just to please some one. Imagine in a country, where the majority of the peoples has no access to clean drinking water, health, education and other basic facilities, they are lavishly expanding public money on these things.
There are thousands of such cases, where they used public money to get personal benefits. If any one has doubts in it, let's ask the Altaf and other leaders of MQM to declare their assets and the means to acquire them.
Take a tiny example of their attitude. Their Port minister Baber Ghauri installed a fountain of millions on the expanses of the government / Port authority, just to please some one. Imagine in a country, where the majority of the peoples has no access to clean drinking water, health, education and other basic facilities, they are lavishly expanding public money on these things.
There are thousands of such cases, where they used public money to get personal benefits. If any one has doubts in it, let's ask the Altaf and other leaders of MQM to declare their assets and the means to acquire them.
lastbullet
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Yes Karachi Mayor has done some wonderful things but please don't go overboard. You guys love to spread lies
in your naive words at least you accept mayor of karachi has done "SOME" wonderfull things .there is no embarrassment to realise the fact that atleast someone in whole pakistan has done something remarkable for common people. people benefitted from those "SOME" wondrfull thing are jubilant and satisfy (overboard as u said) , and they feel themselfe beside the mayor and MQM,then there should't be any problem for people who dont live in karachi and even have never visited karachi in their whole life,are just passing the remarks just in hatred of MQM.
give the credit when its due.
in your naive words at least you accept mayor of karachi has done "SOME" wonderfull things .there is no embarrassment to realise the fact that atleast someone in whole pakistan has done something remarkable for common people. people benefitted from those "SOME" wondrfull thing are jubilant and satisfy (overboard as u said) , and they feel themselfe beside the mayor and MQM,then there should't be any problem for people who dont live in karachi and even have never visited karachi in their whole life,are just passing the remarks just in hatred of MQM.
give the credit when its due.
The billion of rupees of hard working peoples money they lavishly spent on the so-called mega projects which were carried out to benefit the privileged classes.
The Nazim allocated these projects without proper tendering and the quality of work we know. Everyone including the Peer of London get his big shares from it.
They never carried out any study to determine the real cause of traffic congestion or the transportation issues, but advocated un-necessary bridges and so-called signal free corridors by wasting billions of the poor nation and getting a big share in kick backs. They never went for the environmental assessment for these projects.
All these bridges they constructed are only facilities 5 % peoples who own cars but they never think or spent any money on the public transportation system. The traffic congestion issues were only resolved by the modern world by establishing an efficient public transportation system which serves to majority of the population.
Another fraud and destroying the environment by The MQM with celebration of Nazim is the illegal allotment of the parks and getting a big money. In this way they did not only destroyed the environment but the main cause of the present day heat waves and increase in the temperature of Karachi.
The following link will clearly elaborate this great conspiracy by the MQM to achieve their sole aim of getting money and depriving peoples from their money spent to establish the parks in Karachi.
http://www.shehri.org/encroachments.pdf
The Nazim allocated these projects without proper tendering and the quality of work we know. Everyone including the Peer of London get his big shares from it.
They never carried out any study to determine the real cause of traffic congestion or the transportation issues, but advocated un-necessary bridges and so-called signal free corridors by wasting billions of the poor nation and getting a big share in kick backs. They never went for the environmental assessment for these projects.
All these bridges they constructed are only facilities 5 % peoples who own cars but they never think or spent any money on the public transportation system. The traffic congestion issues were only resolved by the modern world by establishing an efficient public transportation system which serves to majority of the population.
Another fraud and destroying the environment by The MQM with celebration of Nazim is the illegal allotment of the parks and getting a big money. In this way they did not only destroyed the environment but the main cause of the present day heat waves and increase in the temperature of Karachi.
The following link will clearly elaborate this great conspiracy by the MQM to achieve their sole aim of getting money and depriving peoples from their money spent to establish the parks in Karachi.
http://www.shehri.org/encroachments.pdf
rahat said:
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[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYfDAwStcaU[/video]
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[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tuaVLTQfPg[/video]
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzBnvt-gVrc[/video]
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Quality Control CCIS Process Flow Chart
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Daily in Karachi, thousands of people save there time, money, by using flyovers, under bypasses, good wide roads, signal free corridors. Either, they are on the Luxury vehicles, motor bikes, buses, vans, rickshaws. And, not only MQM supporters can enjoy these developments. People from different cast, creed, religion daily enjoy development bestow.
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Although, CNG buses are not the solution. It is just the part of the solution. Karachi need mass transit system. Which is an expensive affair. All the mass transit system of the world made with the help of FEDERAL GOVT. Even in NEW YORK, LONDON, SINGAPORE, etc. feasibility report has been made on that. It is up to federal govt.
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Believe me, if this report is right, you'll be given gold medal by PPP & ANP, who daily face embarrassment because of MQM's hue and cry over land grabbing.
Now you have sent a link in which you wanted to say encroachment is being done by CDGK under MUSTAFA KAMAL. Encroachment, Land grabbing are illegal. But, as it is mentioned in your link, CDGK pass the bill in the city council, So, it is not illegal at all. The money which is coming after selling the land is in the CDGK pocket not MQM or MUSTAFA KAMAL. And since, news on the link saying, almost all the grounds have been sold out. So this is not true at all. Lots of ground are still in making process. So many talk shows daily come on TV. Why not you people raise this issue, if this is illegal? Why not with the help of JAMAAT-E-ISLAMI, ANP, PPP, raise this issue, who will love to support this cause because of MQM factor. Especially, ANP and PPP people, who daily feel embarrassment because of MQM hue and cry on LAND MAFIA. your document would be look authentic if you involve the land grabbing on SOHRAB GOTH, GADAP TOWN, ABUL HASSAN ISPHANI ROAD.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPeCNPoCkNA&feature=channel_page[/video]
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIIYDH8JkD0&feature=channel_page[/video]
So many parks have been made in 4 years. The 130 acres of BAGH IBNE QASIM in which 70% was encroached, has been made in MUSTAFA KAMAL era.
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The land which was selling by CDGK is not the land of RAIN FOREST, due to which Karachi is facing raise in temperature. All the world facing this problem.
AKBER BADSHAH
MPA (400+ posts)
jury karaci sey baher beh nikal awoo????????????????????????????????????????
hiflyer1961 said:
Why do they still call themselves Muhajirs ?
A very good and logical question ....
They have been given some IDENTITY like Mukkur , Hindustani , Muhajir , Panah Ghuzeen ,etc , etc
They chosed one of the given Identity and that is why you can not blame them for this IDENTITY .
How did it happen ?
First we have to see why people of URBEN SINDH needed a political voice ? Do you have any answer ?...
I am giving you answer of this question....Answer is IDENTITY See most of you are here....
Pakistani >>>>>> and Punjabi
Pakistani>>>>>>>and Pakhtoon
Pakistani >>>>>>and Sindi
Pakistani>>>>>>and Balouchi
Pakistani>>>>>>and kashmeeri
ETC
ETC
That is why a group whos parents and in my case Grand parents came from India after 1947.
They were only pakistani >>>>> One identity was missing , but they were very happy with this.
After some time there were ethnic disputes came . In East Pakistan , Bengalis demanded more rights according to their population, they demanded their own Governor , their langauge etc etc....
In Balouchistan , Balouchi demanded almost a state without pakistan support.
We were still PAKISTANI , no demand....
In 1960-61 , capital changed from karachi to ISLAMABAD , we did not demand anything till now...
In 1971 , Bangladesh got their freedom.....We are still happy PAKISTANI....
IN 1973 , Z.A.BHUTTU separated sindh into sindh DEHI and sindh Shehri....
Reason he gave that he want that DEHI should get more development with this new QUOTA SYSTEMand with QUOTA SYSTEM both community will get some development.
If this QUOTA SYSTEM was so good , why did he apply only in SINDH.
After this "NA INSAFI " , actually Z.A.BHUTTU pushed us that we should think more than PAKISTANI.
But we were not too much involve in politics , we were divided , we were only a victim and nothing more.
In 1978 , when QUOTA SYSTEM was already 5 years old ...
Because of this 5 years old kid , huge number of MOHAJIRS did not get admission in COLLEGES and universities , even they had more numbers as compare to those who got admission...."NA INSAFI "
This time we were again a victim but with some political knowledge and political awareness.
This time we had a group of students who were ready to fight to get their admission rights.
This time we had Altaf Hussain and his friends , who decided to go to student politics to protect their rights.
11 JUNE 1978 , they based a student political party APMSO ( ALL PAKISTAN MUHAJIR STUDENTS ORGANIZATION)
Now they were not less than others they were equal ...
And only now they were Pakistani >>>> and MOHAJIRS...... WAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO A GREAT DAY ( THANK YOU MR.ALTAF HUSSAIN , you gave us IDENTITY on that day )
Now , MOHAJIRS .....My God >>> Altaf Hussain is dividing Pakistan....
Ohhhh He is Ethnic , rasist , etc etc , and why......, yes ,because he founded a student party with ethnic name....
They were right this MOHAIR was and still showing a group ( Ethnic Group )
But there were already others student organizatios with ethnic name like ( PUNJABI STUDENT ORGANIZATION , PASHTOO STUDENTS FEDRATION , BALOUCH STUDENTS FEDRATION , etc etc...), But they were not Ethnic....again " NA INSAFI "
Rest you people know very well when JI kicked out Altaf Hussain from Karachi University.Altaf Hussain Aoor Us Kay Satheeeooon Per Taleem Ka Derwaza Bund Ker Dea Gaya Tha....
Then Altaf Hussain,s Team founded on 20TH MARCH 1984 MQM
Jaha Insaf Nahee Hota Hay Wohan Shetaan Azad Hota Hay....Aoor Jaha Shetan Aazad Hota Hay...Wohan Khoon Bahoot Aasani Say Behta Hay
( lump sum said by Aslam Zahid )
If some of you can come with logic I am ready to answer.
Believe me we have been pushed for this we did not demand we did not need this , but now We Can't Live Without this identity that is
" MUHAJIR"
First of all we have to understand the role of different political, ethnic, religious groups involved in the political maneuvering of Pakistan in its creation and aftermath.
"At the time of creation of Pakistan the world was looking a change in the political and economical system in all over the world and particularly, in Asia and Africa the struggle and movement for freedom and new socioeconomic relation was in its high spirit. Peoples power in Soviet Union getting strong and struggle in China for people's government was getting successes. In this background the Imperil powers of the world were not in favor in the creation of a new country and they fear it will be a success for the world movements. In this context they tried all their best to create hurdles in the movement of Pakistan. But it was a great vision of Quaid-E- Azam, who with all his hard working made it possible.
The struggle of Pakistan movement was actively participated by the different groups of Muslims in located in isolated parts having different culture and languages. It was clearly announce by the Muslim league about the future of the new federation and its composition. The formula for the peoples living other parts of India was agreed between the concerns powers for a one time migration rights to the peoples who opt it.
It was be also be mentioned that the majority of Urdu speaking groups were located in the other parts on India, which was not declared as a part of Pakistan, such as UP, CP, Bihar etc. They were benefited with the existing infrastructure on that regions and known as the educated class, whole got a considerable share in the government services and private services. There rivals were the majority Hindus who has developed the feeling of their overrepresentation. Their traditional trends were toward religious party's influenced by Saudi way of Islam. It was based on the strict view as they have contradiction with the Hindus on those regions. They were mostly having a great influence of Maulana Madoodadi, Maulana Madni, Maulana Azad etc who were not in favour in an independent country of Pakistan. In this view they were divided on the issue and many of them prefer to India. It was their fear about the survival of the new country.
On the other hand the Karachi in post independence era was the most developed City of the part of India declared as Pakistan. It was equipped with the tools of modern Town Planning and infrastructure for the development. All was contributed by the origin peoples of the city; mainly Parsi, Sindhi Hindus, Christen, Gugarti and other who were form the most part of the population at that time. There was no contradiction between these groups of Karachi and all were living in an atmosphere of brotherhood and were sincerely committed to a peace and respect for each other. The total population of the Karachi was well under half million at the time of independence.
The reason for selecting the Karachi as the capital of new country was the existing infrastructure of the city.
The migration process of 1947 revealed that there was a complete migration in the Punjab and Bangle and a considerable part of Sindhi (Hindus) from Karachi. There was Marginal migration of Urdu speaking peoples from the UP, CP, Bihar. Most of them prefer to the urban Sindh and particularly in Karachi. It is evident from the figure of 1951 record, which indicates the population of Karachi less then a million.
The most migration of urdu speaking peoples takes place after a time when they realized that the Pakistan can survive and then they migrated after selling their properties / assets and getting documents to get claims in Pakistan. They also got fake dagrees and on arrival got most of the goverment jobs. It shows a a change in the culture of Karachi, where a particular ethanic group decalerd its monoply on the sources and closed the doors for others including the real owners of Karachi.
The contradiction with the Sindhis start with the continuous influx of Urdu speaking peoples to Pakistan unlawfully and the fear of Sindhis to become minority in their own land. It is important to note that the Sindhis did not appose the Urdu language in 1948, due to their faith on traditional culture of sofism, who teaches accommodation and sacrifices. The other reason was that they were overrepresented in the bureaucracy, media, and managerial positions in the private sector. It was due to the unequal distribution of wealth to all the parts of Sindh and the policies of investing to benefit a particular class.
"At the time of creation of Pakistan the world was looking a change in the political and economical system in all over the world and particularly, in Asia and Africa the struggle and movement for freedom and new socioeconomic relation was in its high spirit. Peoples power in Soviet Union getting strong and struggle in China for people's government was getting successes. In this background the Imperil powers of the world were not in favor in the creation of a new country and they fear it will be a success for the world movements. In this context they tried all their best to create hurdles in the movement of Pakistan. But it was a great vision of Quaid-E- Azam, who with all his hard working made it possible.
The struggle of Pakistan movement was actively participated by the different groups of Muslims in located in isolated parts having different culture and languages. It was clearly announce by the Muslim league about the future of the new federation and its composition. The formula for the peoples living other parts of India was agreed between the concerns powers for a one time migration rights to the peoples who opt it.
It was be also be mentioned that the majority of Urdu speaking groups were located in the other parts on India, which was not declared as a part of Pakistan, such as UP, CP, Bihar etc. They were benefited with the existing infrastructure on that regions and known as the educated class, whole got a considerable share in the government services and private services. There rivals were the majority Hindus who has developed the feeling of their overrepresentation. Their traditional trends were toward religious party's influenced by Saudi way of Islam. It was based on the strict view as they have contradiction with the Hindus on those regions. They were mostly having a great influence of Maulana Madoodadi, Maulana Madni, Maulana Azad etc who were not in favour in an independent country of Pakistan. In this view they were divided on the issue and many of them prefer to India. It was their fear about the survival of the new country.
On the other hand the Karachi in post independence era was the most developed City of the part of India declared as Pakistan. It was equipped with the tools of modern Town Planning and infrastructure for the development. All was contributed by the origin peoples of the city; mainly Parsi, Sindhi Hindus, Christen, Gugarti and other who were form the most part of the population at that time. There was no contradiction between these groups of Karachi and all were living in an atmosphere of brotherhood and were sincerely committed to a peace and respect for each other. The total population of the Karachi was well under half million at the time of independence.
The reason for selecting the Karachi as the capital of new country was the existing infrastructure of the city.
The migration process of 1947 revealed that there was a complete migration in the Punjab and Bangle and a considerable part of Sindhi (Hindus) from Karachi. There was Marginal migration of Urdu speaking peoples from the UP, CP, Bihar. Most of them prefer to the urban Sindh and particularly in Karachi. It is evident from the figure of 1951 record, which indicates the population of Karachi less then a million.
The most migration of urdu speaking peoples takes place after a time when they realized that the Pakistan can survive and then they migrated after selling their properties / assets and getting documents to get claims in Pakistan. They also got fake dagrees and on arrival got most of the goverment jobs. It shows a a change in the culture of Karachi, where a particular ethanic group decalerd its monoply on the sources and closed the doors for others including the real owners of Karachi.
The contradiction with the Sindhis start with the continuous influx of Urdu speaking peoples to Pakistan unlawfully and the fear of Sindhis to become minority in their own land. It is important to note that the Sindhis did not appose the Urdu language in 1948, due to their faith on traditional culture of sofism, who teaches accommodation and sacrifices. The other reason was that they were overrepresented in the bureaucracy, media, and managerial positions in the private sector. It was due to the unequal distribution of wealth to all the parts of Sindh and the policies of investing to benefit a particular class.
lastbullet
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
It is my moral, ethical,social ,economical,historicl and more so as TALIBilm duty to see whole Pakistan from one sight. If one part of my country is progressing because of the ignorance and foolishness of one party or group.
I will never accept it, because somewhere inside my heart I feel that It should be for whole Pakistan .but my crowdedness always comes in the play and I do not do any thing for my area and my people. but instead of doing some thing constructive ,I have find away which is to make every area equal ,if an area is progressing just pull theirs leg down and keep them equal to myself or criticize, curse, make them feel alone,and even whenever I get power annihilate them enough so they finally stop, so that we become equal Pakistani.
I will never accept it, because somewhere inside my heart I feel that It should be for whole Pakistan .but my crowdedness always comes in the play and I do not do any thing for my area and my people. but instead of doing some thing constructive ,I have find away which is to make every area equal ,if an area is progressing just pull theirs leg down and keep them equal to myself or criticize, curse, make them feel alone,and even whenever I get power annihilate them enough so they finally stop, so that we become equal Pakistani.
It is our moral and religious duty that we should accept the facts and admit the past misdeeds in order to follow the right path. I am also a Muslim migrated to Pakistan from India in 1947 and feel no hesitation to accept that we tried to overrule the poor peoples of Pakistan by not allowing their due share in the national resources.
Pakistan survival logically and economically depends upon our formers and the natural resources. But their areas are neglected in the last 62 years and all their earrings were diverted toward one or two cities to benefits the privileged classes.
It is the main cause of unrest among the peoples in Baluchistan. NWFP, southern Punjab, interior Sindh and other remote areas.
It is the time that we must accept these mistakes and stand for the rights of deprived areas; otherwise ultimately the privileged classes of elite cities will suffer a lot due to the response of these poor peoples.
Pakistan survival logically and economically depends upon our formers and the natural resources. But their areas are neglected in the last 62 years and all their earrings were diverted toward one or two cities to benefits the privileged classes.
It is the main cause of unrest among the peoples in Baluchistan. NWFP, southern Punjab, interior Sindh and other remote areas.
It is the time that we must accept these mistakes and stand for the rights of deprived areas; otherwise ultimately the privileged classes of elite cities will suffer a lot due to the response of these poor peoples.
lastbullet
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
i am more than agree with you mr rahat that we should learn our past mistakes ,but the point is whenever someone doing a good work we suppose to appreciate it,do not undermine them disrespect them.(which you always do intentionally or non intentionally)rahat said:
give the credit when its due,to whome its due ,besieds to whome ur own personal affiliatin are.
thats the real pakistani spirit.
[altaf] real face of kali matas stoog
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