contra: College Bars Muslim Student For Wearing Veil

contra

Senator (1k+ posts)
masadi1980 said:
ALL THE TIME PEOPLE TELL U THE TRUE FACE OF ISLAM AND PICTURE BUT YOU DIDNT GET ANYTHING FROM THEM, ALWAYS STAY IN DENIAL MODE, WHICH IS NOW DISGUSSTING AND I AM NOT GONNA WASTING MY EVEN A SINGLE WORD ON YOU. IF YOU WANNA KNOW ABOUT ISLAM AND TRUE PICTURE OF ISLAM AND ITS APPLICATION THEN PLZ COME BY OPEN MIND.

1. Muslims are defending their religion.
Whether or not they are presenting the true face of Islam, is an open question.

2. Didn't Mr. Mohammad send letters to the Persian Empire and The Byzantine Empire, that they should convert to Islam if they want to avoid war?
What do you call this? Peacefully asking people to convert? Asking people to convert without use of force?

Weren't the Aristocracy of these two empires killed or sent into exile?

3. You should read some other history books as well, not the ones you currently do.
Do you know that slavery is mentioned in Quran? Mr. Mohammad himself had many slaves. So much for equality.
 

taul

Siasat.pk - Blogger
contra said:
1. Muslims are defending their religion.
Whether or not they are presenting the true face of Islam, is an open question.

2. Didn't Mr. Mohammad send letters to the Persian Empire and The Byzantine Empire, that they should convert to Islam if they want to avoid war?
What do you call this? Peacefully asking people to convert? Asking people to convert without use of force?

Weren't the Aristocracy of these two empires killed or sent into exile?

3. You should read some other history books as well, not the ones you currently do.
Do you know that slavery is mentioned in Quran? Mr. Mohammad himself had many slaves. So much for equality



--Slavery was long present before Islam as i have already posted but you go blind on each and every issue coz you are intolerant and you simply hide from all the facts and try to put your hate on the front burner. :) ..Do not even get me started on "Equity and Equality" since you have NOT even the slightest sense of both words and you will end up intermingling both and end up furthering your already deteriorating condition :lol: :D


--You seem to be completely unaware of the Persian and Byzantine Empires,two of the biggest and Mightiest Empires with Large number of Armies of those times and Muslims were Completely and plainly Outnumbered in terms of Military Strength, So the idea that a few thousand poorly equipped Arabs forced millions of Jews & Christians to adopt Islam and speak Arabic at the point of the sword doesn't sound very believable, (unless one is feeble minded enough and also willing to believe in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy too) :shock: :oops: and the reason for Huge number of Jews and Christians to Embrace Islam was simple,it was in their books, because he fulfilled Isaiah 19 and Mat 24..but for you to even come to terms with that you may have to do a bit research and swallow a bitter pill :ugeek: ..True believers of their faith (Jews and Christians) Accepted Islam and a lot remained defiant to this day and they are to this date still waiting for the Prophecies to come true :|


--Wars on the whole were inevitable in those times where Jews,Christians and Muslims all fought and all the initial blame and burden was put on Muslims since they were emanating as per Jews a new faith and were perceived to be threats whereas they were NOT and the message of Islam was purely a continuation of Judaism and Christianity. :|
 

masadi1980

MPA (400+ posts)
contra said:
masadi1980 said:
ALL THE TIME PEOPLE TELL U THE TRUE FACE OF ISLAM AND PICTURE BUT YOU DIDNT GET ANYTHING FROM THEM, ALWAYS STAY IN DENIAL MODE, WHICH IS NOW DISGUSSTING AND I AM NOT GONNA WASTING MY EVEN A SINGLE WORD ON YOU. IF YOU WANNA KNOW ABOUT ISLAM AND TRUE PICTURE OF ISLAM AND ITS APPLICATION THEN PLZ COME BY OPEN MIND.

1. Muslims are defending their religion.
Whether or not they are presenting the true face of Islam, is an open question.

2. Didn't Mr. Mohammad send letters to the Persian Empire and The Byzantine Empire, that they should convert to Islam if they want to avoid war?
What do you call this? Peacefully asking people to convert? Asking people to convert without use of force?

Weren't the Aristocracy of these two empires killed or sent into exile?

3. You should read some other history books as well, not the ones you currently do.
Do you know that slavery is mentioned in Quran? Mr. Mohammad himself had many slaves. So much for equality.



1. Yes Islam is my religion and i feel proud to defend it. It is true religion. A complete code of life.
2. Yes Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) sent letters to above mentioned empire for inviting them towards Islam, and do you know what they done???? they disregard and disrespect Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) by torn apart those letters and also killed the messenger one of sahabi (RA). (also watch video clip below in this context).
I hope and pray, you'l get right path.
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[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hyDcJncreo[/video]
 

takjhank

Councller (250+ posts)
contra said:
1. All non muslims are "kafirs", who are you trying to fool my dear pious muslim?

2.a) Lets just take an example...
During Ramzan, is any person, muslim or non muslim allowed to eat food in a hotel during the fasting time?
We non muslims don't fast during the day, but, because of the orders passed by General Zia ul Haq, hotels are either closed or they dont serve...
b) heard of a church or a temple in Saudi Arabia?

Dear, I want to answer u parawise. So
1- I just want to know that what u think about urself?? So, I m just concern ur answer of this question. Why u r doing, ayen bayen shayen??? U know, there r lots of peoples, who taunt other peoples that they r kafir. Even they are not. So, 1st of all u should be clear about urself, that R u kafir or not and plz let me inform too in ur own opinion.

2-
I dont know, where did u read and what is ur source of cheap knowledge??
O.K, I try to teach u something in short. U should go in details urself. (But to learn not to get the information for dis-information. :roll: as u do every time)
Dear, fasting is a worship between Allah and a person. This is a compulsory (Farz) ( I hope u know about what is Farz and what is Sunnah, if u not, let me ask, I will tell u in reality not like u learn from here and there :lol: ) anywayzzzzz so. This is farz but ``there is no punishment and law against, who dont obey the fasting , in this world, its a matter of after death. Where "muslims" will get their punishment nd prize. This is a sin (only for muslims not for u.. ;) ). . There is no any example in the world, that somebody got punishment due to no-fasting
I am afraid :O that u r giving the example of that person, to whom, the world remember as a name of Dictator. I think u r so inspired by the Dictators thats y u r posting the example of tht person . (But on the other thing, u criticise about Hitlor :O whats wrong with u maaaannnnn????

I think u r so confused person and as for masadi u really have lots of shit in ur mind. :lol: I think he is quite right.
Anywayzzzz I wana inform u that during the ramzan all hotels and food shops being open in the whole world. Either they r non-muslim countries or muslim. Yes! If somebody close their shops n food points n hotels only for respect the dignifity of Ramzan and fasting , that should be appreciated. I think so. What is ur point of view, I dont care... ;)

As concern about ur next question of any temple in Saudi Arabia. Just keep in ur mind that is a kingdom state not a democratic country. And I think, Kings do whatever they want.. I want to put an example of a democratic country, if they can destroy the Masjid and can make a temple on that place, even they claim that their country is a Largest Democratic Country (I hope u r getting my point ;) ). So, what u can expect a kingdom if that is a position of democratic states???

So, dear, dont argue only for argue. Just learn something about that. Otherwise ull really proof that u have a shit mind.. Lolzzzzz. :P



and by the way....... what do u know about Most Respectfull Person of the World "Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W and Islam" ??? I think nothing......... So, just keep concentrate about ur gods and their believers.. Don't argue about those persons to whom u don't know anything and u will not. becuase i told u so many times..... u r blind, deaf and dumb. so...................... just wait that day, when u'll say only one word.... "kaash"......
 

masadi1980

MPA (400+ posts)
Realy guys, contra is mad and have nothing in his skull but full of shitt, all the time he has to face alot of replies against his single post, and he .................. he is dheeeett. Always try to make a new issue, new subject, although he had received alot of replies which are good enough for his satisfaction.
so dont pay attention to his posts, he is duffer. He used to comment on Islam and always shy to compare with his own religion, the religion full of gods, every person has its own hand made god, this is their religion that people go to marry with dogs and frogs .......................

KHUD TO KUTTON (DOGS) KO, HAATHI KO, SAANP KO, BANDRON KO, CHOO-HON (RATS) KO POOJTAY HAIN AUR BAATAIN KARTAY HAIN HAMARY DEEN KI, ....... STUPIDS
 

nabeel117

Councller (250+ posts)
contra said:
Source: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-New ... aring_Veil
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A Muslim student says she is "emotionally traumatised" after her local college prevented her from enrolling because she wore a veil. :roll: :lol:
Shawana Bilqes, 18, claims the decision by Burnley College has left her humiliated and has disrupted her studies :o .
Shawana told Sky News: "I was willing to take it off as a compromise for identification checks, security or whatever. But they said I couldn't wear it anywhere on the premises." ["As a compromise!!!" hmmm...Doing a favour on the kafirs..is she?] :evil:

In a statement, college Principal John Smith insisted that unimpeded communication with students was impossible if the face was not fully visible. :P 8-)
"All members of the college community should be identifiable at all times when in the college," he said. :P 8-)
[Excellent, we need people like these to confront Islamists]

Shawana insists it is her own choice and right to wear the veil :? . She has been training as a cadet with Lancashire Police and says it has never been a problem to remove the veil in the classroom but wear it outside as long as it is practical.
[There is a possibility that she might be scared of her Father or Brothers, and hence is wearing the veil]
Her 21-year-old sister Nadia, who also wears the veil and studies at the University of Central Lancashire in Preston told Sky News: "It's totally :lol: absurd :lol: to think it is glued to our face, the college can't hide behind the security excuse."

"We are law abiding British citizens. If someone asks us to remove it for identification purposes we will."
[Nope, you will accuse that person of racism, and singling you out...You cannot fool us kafirs anymore, we know all your tricks. 8-) ]
"Those politicians like Jack Straw who've discussed the veil have gone about it the wrong way - it's given everyone leeway to discriminate but that means it's seen as OK to attack anyone who wears the veil, which is a totally unacceptable situation."
[See what i mean... :lol: ]
Shawana is now trying to pursue her education elsewhere and hopes the setback will not prevent her from embarking on a medical career.[Hopefully not in Saudi Arabia.]

@Contra bhai,
"Qalo Salama"

@siasat.pk
It is just wasting our time... as Quran says, "Wa idha khatabahumul Jahiluna Qalu Salaama" (When igonorant people approches them, they (Muslims) avoid them peacefully...)..

I do not see anything we could do other then just ignore them... I am sorry to say, a few times I feel, we might be wasting our time and energy in being busy with some unncessary issues.... which we could just avoid and ignore...

Certainly, in the cicumstances of necessary response, we must offer THE BEST one.. as Quran has mentions.. "Bil Hikmati wa al Maw'izatil Hasanah, Wa Jadilhum BILLATI HIA Ahsan"
Every word in this verse is very comprehensive.. Hikmah, nice conversation (or elqouent speach, or kind words), and debating with them with the better logic and arguments...
WE MUST NOT BE REACTIONARY.. WE MUST NOT try to response every issue we see... Thats my opinion..

May Allah forgive me if I am wrong...

Wasalam
 

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