Choraha - 7th August 2010 - Corruption in Renovation of Alama Iqbal's House
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HiddenDesire
Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
"Juda ho deen siyasat se to reh jati hai changezi" Yeh sher Allama Iqbal ki shayri pe aik dhaba hai.
Pata nai Allama ne kis sense mien kaha tha. Magar haqeeqat mien iss sher ne Pakistani musalmano per bohat bura aur negative asar dala. Aur aisi jama'atein wajood mein aa gayein jo Mazhab k naam per Power Play ka hissa banien aur Pakistani Tareekh mien hamesha negative role play kia. Bari examples mien Jama'at-e-Islami aur JUI hain. Taliban b issi fikar ki paidawaar hain.
in fact Religion ka siyasat se koi ta'aluq nahi. Koi do achay musalmaan aik siyasi faislay per aik doosray se Ekhtalaaf ker saktay hain. Iss se Mazhab ki khaisiyat mutasir nahi hoti.
Bohat si exampls quote ki ja saktein hain. Magar classic example Hazrat Ali aur Usman ki hai. Jab Hazrat Ali ne kaha k wo apnay pehlay Khulfa ko follow nahi kerein gay aur wohi karein gay jissay wo theek samjtay hain. Jabkay Hazrat Usman ne kaha k wo pehlay dono khulfa ko follow kerein gay aur iss pe wo Khalifa bana diye gaye. This was a political decision and Islam had nothing to do with it.
Pata nahi Allama ne kis kamzor lamhay mien yeh sher kaha aur phir shaitaan ne issay bari achi tarha propagate kia.
Mazhab jaisi azeem aur afaaqi quwwat ko siyasat jaisay mua'amlaat mien power lenay k liye use kerna intahayee kameengi hai.
Pata nai Allama ne kis sense mien kaha tha. Magar haqeeqat mien iss sher ne Pakistani musalmano per bohat bura aur negative asar dala. Aur aisi jama'atein wajood mein aa gayein jo Mazhab k naam per Power Play ka hissa banien aur Pakistani Tareekh mien hamesha negative role play kia. Bari examples mien Jama'at-e-Islami aur JUI hain. Taliban b issi fikar ki paidawaar hain.
in fact Religion ka siyasat se koi ta'aluq nahi. Koi do achay musalmaan aik siyasi faislay per aik doosray se Ekhtalaaf ker saktay hain. Iss se Mazhab ki khaisiyat mutasir nahi hoti.
Bohat si exampls quote ki ja saktein hain. Magar classic example Hazrat Ali aur Usman ki hai. Jab Hazrat Ali ne kaha k wo apnay pehlay Khulfa ko follow nahi kerein gay aur wohi karein gay jissay wo theek samjtay hain. Jabkay Hazrat Usman ne kaha k wo pehlay dono khulfa ko follow kerein gay aur iss pe wo Khalifa bana diye gaye. This was a political decision and Islam had nothing to do with it.
Pata nahi Allama ne kis kamzor lamhay mien yeh sher kaha aur phir shaitaan ne issay bari achi tarha propagate kia.
Mazhab jaisi azeem aur afaaqi quwwat ko siyasat jaisay mua'amlaat mien power lenay k liye use kerna intahayee kameengi hai.
Brother...if muslims do wrong things, that doesn't mean that Islam is wrong. If nowadays so called religious parties do politics on the name of religion than similarly u can not blame Iqbal on that.
I think we have to understand the difference of 'deen' and 'mazhab'. When we say that religion has nothing to do with politics, than it means mazhab and Islam is a way of life 'deen'. We can not eliminate Islam from a single small thing, rather politics which is very important part of life.
Now come to ur classic example...on that occasion the question was to follow the last two Khalifas and not about the Islam. I think they cant even think of running the govt. or Khilafat without Islam (Quran & Sunnah).
Wsalam
billet doux
Voter (50+ posts)
Well as far as I can understand, the majority of Pakistan is Muslim. Overall they are not very practicing and have many differences but, they are Muslims. And Pakistan Resolution clearly states the purpose of the creation of Pakistan. I do agree that in Pakistan the religious parties did the sham politics and they just used religion for ministries and material gains, but still if compared with non reiligious parties, the corruption done by the non religious parties is far higher and there is no comparison. I am not supporter of Jamat e Islami, but they have always been in the fore front at the time of calamities and disaters.
Allama Iqbal was against the Mullaiyyat, and the definition of Mulla is " a maulvi who bows before a king, the best example is Mulana Fazlurehman.
The problem with Hassan Nisar is that he is too much overwhelmed by the modernization and the west.
Ok, for a moment we separate religion from politics, and we know that man wants freedom all the time, if the parliament passes a law in favor of gay marriages, and legalises the brothels and allows alcohol, will people of Pakistan not protest against it.
What is the constitution of Pakistan. Is it not based on principles of Islam?
Allama Iqbal was against the Mullaiyyat, and the definition of Mulla is " a maulvi who bows before a king, the best example is Mulana Fazlurehman.
The problem with Hassan Nisar is that he is too much overwhelmed by the modernization and the west.
Ok, for a moment we separate religion from politics, and we know that man wants freedom all the time, if the parliament passes a law in favor of gay marriages, and legalises the brothels and allows alcohol, will people of Pakistan not protest against it.
What is the constitution of Pakistan. Is it not based on principles of Islam?
patriot
Minister (2k+ posts)
Majority of Muslims follow religion and not 'Deen' as we ought to .
The difference between religion and 'Deen' is that religion requires rituals and worship while Deen requires service.
Service to Allah by serving His creation. This is Deen.
Now it sounds reasonable. "Juda ho deen siasat se tau Reh Jati hai chagezi".
The difference between religion and 'Deen' is that religion requires rituals and worship while Deen requires service.
Service to Allah by serving His creation. This is Deen.
Now it sounds reasonable. "Juda ho deen siasat se tau Reh Jati hai chagezi".
