Care taker Govt is dancing on the tunes of PTI - Shehbaz Sharif

[Citizen X]

Tell me a credible punishment of anyone other than Nawaz Sharif!

Again changing goal posts, we are talking if corruption is a crime in Pakistani law or not.

And I will also addressing the stupid point you are actually trying to make by trying to be over smart and move the discussion into the direction you have been burning to all day long, because you think you can "win" that discussion. Unfortunately Gujjar saab that won't be the case.

Supposing for the sake of argument, lets say no one has even been fined, jailed, dismissed or received any other form of punishment for corruption, does it then means its OK for Nawaz Sharif to do corruption ? Does it give him a right to do corruption ? And also then don't you think we should start from somewhere ? And starting from the top is always the right thing to do as it has a trickle down effect,

So it started with the two most popular leaders of Pakistan, Nawaz Sharif and Imran Khan. Imran Khan was able to prove he was not involved in any corruption and was able to provide an extensive money trail and account for all his assets. On the other hand Nawaz Sharif wasn't even though he was given every chance and ample time humanly possible to prove his innocence and he failed, hence found guilty of corruption and jailed accordingly. Now what could be more fair than that.

And once this train of accountability leaves the station whose wheels have been jammed by the status quo parties which kept making deals or quashing cases once in power, its wheels have finally now started to move and it will spare no one, as you can see many references and cases have also been filed and people like Sharjeel Memon are now in jail in Sindh so that would answer the other question I know you would have posed, why then Nawaz Sharif only why not others !

 

[surfer]

They are telling the great story of making of Sharif Family from rags to riches through their shear hard work and entrepreneurship. They seem to be talking different things because each statement is describing a different time or event of this unparalleled legacy, but they are all correct in what they are telling. It is a shame to call them liars.

Sorry bro, they are liars

1. Nawaz denied signing a deal with musharaf to go into exile for 10 years. Saad Hariri showed the signed deal. Nawaz is a liar
2. MAryam said she or her brothers have no property in london or pakistan in 2012. In 2016 her brother said they own london flats. Ignoring the fact that maryam knew she signed the trust dead in 2006 (if that is true), then Maryam lied in 2012. Thus, Maryam is a liar.
3. Nawaz said in parliment that they have the complete record and money trail for london flats. In court submitted nothing. Again, nawaz is a liar.
4. Shahbaz saying on 12th July that they will go to airport. Kh Asif says that two days before 13th plan was agreed to not to go to airport. Is Kh asif lying of Shahbaz?

Please let me know if any of my statements above are incorrect and I will apologise.

 

[Talwar Gujjar]

Again changing goal posts, we are talking if corruption is a crime in Pakistani law or not.

And I will also addressing the stupid point you are actually trying to make by trying to be over smart and move the discussion into the direction you have been burning to all day long, because you think you can "win" that discussion. Unfortunately Gujjar saab that won't be the case.

Supposing for the sake of argument, lets say no one has even been fined, jailed, dismissed or received any other form of punishment for corruption, does it then means its OK for Nawaz Sharif to do corruption ? Does it give him a right to do corruption ? And also then don't you think we should start from somewhere ? And starting from the top is always the right thing to do as it has a trickle down effect,

So it started with the two most popular leaders of Pakistan, Nawaz Sharif and Imran Khan. Imran Khan was able to prove he was not involved in any corruption and was able to provide an extensive money trail and account for all his assets. On the other hand Nawaz Sharif wasn't even though he was given every chance and ample time humanly possible to prove his innocence and he failed, hence found guilty of corruption and jailed accordingly. Now what could be more fair than that.

And once this train of accountability leaves the station whose wheels have been jammed by the status quo parties which kept making deals or quashing cases once in power, its wheels have finally now started to move and it will spare no one, as you can see many references and cases have also been filed and people like Sharjeel Memon are now in jail in Sindh so that would answer the other question I know you would have posed, why then Nawaz Sharif only why not others !

I will make only two quick comments:
First, you are again twisting my original statement. I said, "Corruption k Pakistan mein koi saza nahein", which does not quite determine if it is legal or illegal.

Second, Nawaz Sharif has not done any corruption and he has not been convicted because any corruption was proven. If he was corrupt, he would have had a better chance of acquittal because he would be more than willing to compromise with Junta. This law game is being played quite the other way around.

 

[Citizen X]

I will make only two quick comments:
First, you are again twisting my original statement. I said, "Corruption k Pakistan mein koi saza nahein", which does not quite determine if it is legal or illegal.

Second, Nawaz Sharif has not done any corruption and he has not been convicted because any corruption was proven. If he was corrupt, he would have had a better chance of acquittal because he would be more than willing to compromise with Junta. This law game is being played quite the other way around.

Au contraire mon ami, you see you are totally wrong there. Gujjar saab Mian Saab ko kissi bachay se toffee chorany ki waja se jail mein nahi dala.

Mian Saab has been convicted of corruption under NAB ordnance 9 which is titled Corruption and Corrupt practices, section 5.

It will be my pleasure to quote the aforementioned law just so you have a better understanding and don't make the same mistake in the future again.

9 : Corruption and corrupt practices

A holder of a public office, or any other person, is said to commit or to have committed the offence of corruption and corrupt practices-

(V) If he or any of his dependents or benamidars owns, possesses, or has any right or title in any movable or immovable property or pecuniary resources disproportionate to his known sources of income, which he cannot reasonably account for

Souce : http://www.molaw.gov.pk/molaw/userfiles1/file/MOLAW/NABORDINANCE-1999.pdf

Gujjar saab as I have been saying all along, open and shut case.

He or his dependents own property, yes.

Has he been able to reasonably account for it. no.

So in the eyes of the law he has committed corruption.

So please next time don't lie that he has't been convicted of any corruption

 

[Talwar Gujjar]

Au contraire mon ami, you see you are totally wrong there. Gujjar saab Mian Saab ko kissi bachay se toffee chorany ki waja se jail mein nahi dala.

Mian Saab has been convicted of corruption under NAB ordnance 9 which is titled Corruption and Corrupt practices, section 5.

It will be my pleasure to quote the aforementioned law just so you have a better understanding and don't make the same mistake in the future again.



Souce : http://www.molaw.gov.pk/molaw/userfiles1/file/MOLAW/NABORDINANCE-1999.pdf

Gujjar saab as I have been saying all along, open and shut case.

He or his dependents own property, yes.

Has he been able to reasonably account for it. no.

So in the eyes of the law he has committed corruption.

So please next time don't lie that he has't been convicted of any corruption

No, don't agree, no corruption has been proven on Nawaz Sharif, he is being convicted to keep him away from elections. Junta will have to backtrack after the elections.

 

[Citizen X]

No, don't agree, no corruption has been proven on Nawaz Sharif, he is being convicted to keep him away from elections. Junta will have to backtrack after the elections.

Doesn't matter what you do or don't believe, doesn't change a thing, law does not change according to your beliefs I just showed you what the law says and how according to that law NS was rightfully convicted. You can choose to stay ignorant all you want, you have the full right to remain an idiot.

 

[Talwar Gujjar]

Doesn't matter what you do or don't believe, doesn't change a thing, law does not change according to your beliefs I just showed you what the law says and how according to that law NS was rightfully convicted. You can choose to stay ignorant all you want, you have the full right to remain an idiot.

You are down to your pteecher cheex pukar, so predictable!

 

[Citizen X]

You are down to your pteecher cheex pukar, so predictable!

Oh how silly of me I'm the one providing you with the facts, what the laws says, linking you to the source so you cant say I made it up on my own and how it has been applied justly, and you are the one with his fingers in his ears not wanting to hear the truth and believe the facts and I am the one who is acting silly, great way to prove your point!

Should I consider this your tap out since you have no logical arguments left?

 

[Dream Seller]

Weren’t you guys mocking Khan for saying this in the past. Allah’s plans are best but we understand not...