Capital Talk - 21st December 2011 - Imran Khan

k.a.kiani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Are you serious. Leadership is what drives change through the ballot box. The problem we have in pakistan is that we cant go with a libya / tunusia type revolution because the country will just blow up and potentially ther will be nothing left. So the alternative is that we play smart and bring in people who arent tainted with corruption to bring PTI in power. The challenge is to get in power with a sincere and dedicated leadership at the top and clear majority within both houses and then change the system from within by building robust governance systems.

IK has educating people for the last 15 years and his detractors kept harping about not having big names now these people are coming to him they are coming out with clap trap. its just basically they are scared because ther leadership is rotten to the core and have become used to consuming haraam.
ap b chahtai ho kah imran bas farishton ki talaash mein laga rahai aur saari umer parliament ka mun b na dekhai. usska mujhe aur aapko faida kya ho ga. kitni daffa IK kahai kah jo b party mein aa raha hai wo ussk mooqaf pe aa raha hai aur ussi mooqaf ko sahi maanai ga tu party mein rahay ga warna chhor ja'ey ga. lakin aapk damagh mein pata nahi q ye baat nahi aati.

as being Pakistani ab mein unhi parties ko baar baar mulak pe hakoomat kartai nahi dekh skta. na'e party ko aana chahiye aur agr PTI nahi perform karti tu yeh double zalil ho gi.

PTI k aanai se change ye aa'ey gi kah sab political parties ko pata chal ja'ey ga kah rahai ga wohi jo perform karai ga. this is what pakistan needs.

aur aakhir pe bhai politics power game hi hoti hai. faraq sirf itna hota hai kah power aap kyun laina chahtai ho aur iss mein muje IK pe koi doubt nahi kah wo power Mulak k liay kuchh krnai k liay laina chahta hai. so try to understand brother and be little optimistic.
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
brother you should have said "unlike other big leaders", a person like Imran ........... then your post will be completed. :)
I think every sane person knows by now that Imran is 'unlike other big leaders'
The one and only!
 

farooq9999

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Once Quid-e-Azam Said
[h=6]"I do not believe in taking the right decision, i take a decision and make it right."[/h]Actuly problm yah hai k pakistan nay Jinnah k baad koi leader Dakha he nahi... isi livay hamain idea he nahi hai k aik prime minister aur leader main.... Aik president aur leader main faraq kya hota hai.... hum nawaz sharif ko, benazir ko, altaf ko leader samajtay hain.... jo cntrol krtay nahi cntrol hotay hain....so ab mostly yahi sooch rahay hain k imran bhei aisay he karay ga jooo k i guess blkul ghalat hain.... we must give him a chance....
Aap mahathir mohamad ki book study karain k us nau inhi jaisay loogoon ko apnay sath lay kr malaysia ki kismat badal di.... us k sath jo loog thay wo in say kaheen ziada corruption krtay thay bt aik leader ny sub ko seeda kr diya..... Bt ab kya kiya javay.... agar main ny saari zindagi suziki FX chalai ho to main kya jaanoon k bugatti kii power aur faiday kya hain????????:lol:

 

k.a.kiani

Minister (2k+ posts)
this is a deliberate attempt to effect karachi jalsa................just as he did to shaikh rasheed

o really. because they have shown in the report and hamid mir said that Jalsa is going to be successful or when hamid mir said that NS is there to damage the pitch for IK's jalsa. what made you think like that. criticism on IK will affect his jalsas then he is doing lots of successful jalsa along with this criticism and c'mon understand the difference b/w IK and sheikh rasheed
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
this is a deliberate attempt to effect karachi jalsa................just as he did to shaikh rasheed
Even if Hamid had some hidden agenda, I think he failed miserably as Imran came on top
with all the logical answers. Saanch ko aanch nahin!
 

k.a.kiani

Minister (2k+ posts)
Even if Hamid had some hidden agenda, I think he failed miserably as Imran came on top
with all the logical answers. Saanch ko aanch nahin!
who criticizes IK he is on agenda and who praise IK and PTI they are angles. c'mon guys what happened with you. watch talat hussain's yesterday program, he asked harder questions then Hamid Mir. If he is also on agenda according to you then no journalist is reliable in Pakistan.

Please don't make PTI as MQM and dont try to make IK as Altaf Hussain so that nobody will be able to question him.
 

bottom line

MPA (400+ posts)
o really. because they have shown in the report and hamid mir said that Jalsa is going to be successful or when hamid mir said that NS is there to damage the pitch for IK's jalsa. what made you think like that. criticism on IK will affect his jalsas then he is doing lots of successful jalsa along with this criticism and c'mon understand the difference b/w IK and sheikh rasheed[/QUOTE
you are ignoring the timing of this program
 

freshnkool

Minister (2k+ posts)
all those who are talking about inqlab they should know in villages and small towns inqlabi cant win no matter how tajat quzar they are. in cities imran khan said so many times he will give tickets to young and new people but in villages no inqlab works, you have to have winning hourses.

secondly a question to everyone if imran khan cant come to power then then what is use of having all the inqlabi policies???? Asghar khan did the same mistake and thought inqlabi agenda and his honest will win him seats but he could not win so its bitter truth of pakistan. i am surprised that we all come from pakistan and know our socity inside out that how corrupt we are and still we think a PHD 30 year old clean man will get vote speically in villages and small cities ??????
 

imyrathore

MPA (400+ posts)
ap b chahtai ho kah imran bas farishton ki talaash mein laga rahai aur saari umer parliament ka mun b na dekhai. usska mujhe aur aapko faida kya ho ga. kitni daffa IK kahai kah jo b party mein aa raha hai wo ussk mooqaf pe aa raha hai aur ussi mooqaf ko sahi maanai ga tu party mein rahay ga warna chhor ja'ey ga. lakin aapk damagh mein pata nahi q ye baat nahi aati.

as being Pakistani ab mein unhi parties ko baar baar mulak pe hakoomat kartai nahi dekh skta. na'e party ko aana chahiye aur agr PTI nahi perform karti tu yeh double zalil ho gi.

PTI k aanai se change ye aa'ey gi kah sab political parties ko pata chal ja'ey ga kah rahai ga wohi jo perform karai ga. this is what pakistan needs.

aur aakhir pe bhai politics power game hi hoti hai. faraq sirf itna hota hai kah power aap kyun laina chahtai ho aur iss mein muje IK pe koi doubt nahi kah wo power Mulak k liay kuchh krnai k liay laina chahta hai. so try to understand brother and be little optimistic.
thats what i said in my post. so we both agree that he is taking the correct approach.
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Imran Khan was talking against himself...............paspai ho rahe hai..............in shahab ka sirf aik he aim hai aur wo iktadar..........

Aur iktadar hi change ki pehli munzil hay!
Not like some people who got iktadar 5 times and have not changed a thing
except their bank balance.
 

barhaich

Senator (1k+ posts)
sharam karo apne aapko PTI ka supporter kahtai ho. Hamid mir is the most known, reliable and capable journalist. He did very good job and always promoted IK. why you people don't understand that if these hard questions will not be asked from IK then how these misconception will be removed, which are being spread againt IK and PTI.

look at the report, he has shown in the program about karachi jalsa, it is clearly mentioned that people are excited and are willing to go in his jalsa. you must listen last comments of Hamid because these are always important and tells you what anchor's point of you.


This show is aimed to cause differences within the party, Hamid Mir can do nothing to stop the Karachi Tsunami so he is trying to divide the party.

Yesterday, Talat asked these same questions in a more professional manner.

Repeatedly showing clips of the past will sensationalize egoistic candidate based politics further.

Hamid Mir needs the ratings and for that he has to invite IK; this fact is disguised under the notion that Mir is promoting Imran Khan.
 

Saboo

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
who criticizes IK he is on agenda and who praise IK and PTI they are angles. c'mon guys what happened with you. watch talat hussain's yesterday program, he asked harder questions then Hamid Mir. If he is also on agenda according to you then no journalist is reliable in Pakistan.

Please don't make PTI as MQM and dont try to make IK as Altaf Hussain so that nobody will be able to question him.

You missed my point completely!
An impression is being created as if Hamid has a hidden agenda and all I said was that
even if he had one, he failed. I was also advocating more talk shows with some tougher questions so that
Imran can explain his stance more clearly to clear this confussion being created.
Where did I say Hamid or Talat had any agendas?
 

Nice2MU

President (40k+ posts)
انتہائی رنجیدہ ھوں کہ ایک تحریک جو کہ پاکستان مین انقلاب کی داعی تھی اپنی اٹھان سے پہلے ھی ہائی جیک کر لی گئی،اور اس سے بھی زیادہ افسوس اس بات کا ھے کہ ہائی جیک ھونیوالے کو شاید یہ خبر بھی نہ ھو کہ وہ ھائی جیک ھو چکا،جی ھاں بات تحریکِ انصاف کی ھے،شاید عمران خان تھک گیا یا ھار مان گیا ھے،اس سسٹم سے لڑتے لڑتے،اسٹیبلشمنٹ نے اوپر خان کا چہرہ لگا کر سارا گند اس کی پارٹی مین شامل کر دیا اور خان بیچارہ اس کی صفائیان دیتا پھر رھا ھے،شامل ھونیوالے پھر بازی مار گئے۔وہ بھی جو عدلیہ کا خون کرنے میں پیش پیش تھے،وہ بھی لال مسجد واقعے میں برابر کے زمہ دار تھے،وہ بھی جو امریکہ کا ساتھ دینے میں مشرف سے زیادہ خوش تھے،سب تحریکِ انصاف میں شامل ھو گئے،اور خان کہتا ھے کہ ان کے دل بدل گئے ھیں،کیا واقعی ایسا ھے؟خورشید قصوری کا دل بدل گیا ھے،غلام سرور خان کا،جھانگیر ترین کا،شاھد اکرام بھنڈر کا،میاں اظہر کا،اور اسی فیصد مشرف کی ٹیم کا دل بدل گیا ھے،کسی نے بھی اپنے کئیے پر افسوس کا اظہار کیا ھے،پھر کیسے دل بدل گیا ھے،اس طرح تو ھو سکتا ھے مشرف کا دل بھی بدل گیا ھو،کیا یہ سوال نہیں اٹھتا کہ ان سب میں صرف مشرف ھی برا تھا باقی اس کے ساتھ سارے فرشتے تھے جو اب سارے کے سارے پی ٹی آئی میں شامل ھو گئے ھیں یہ کس طرح کا سونامی ھے،لوٹوں کا،مفاد پرستوں کا،موقع پرستوں کا،اقتدار کے بھوکوں کا،معاف کیئجیے گا،ان کا مقصد انقلاب نہیں یہ صرف خان کی منزل کھوٹی کرنا چاھتے تھے جس مین وہ کامیاب جا رھے ھیں،خان کی کامیابی سے بھی پہلے اس کو ناکام کر دیا،افسوس صد افسوس

واقعی بڑی افسوس کی بات ھے آپ جیسے لوگوں کے لیے کیوںکہ نواز شریف نے ان سب کی خوب میتیں کیں لیکن جب انہوں نے میاں صاحب کوکوئی گھاس نہیں ڈالی تو واقعی افسوس اور دکھ کی بات تو ھے کہ جیتنے والے گھوڑے اپ لوگوں کے ساتھ نہیں گئے۔ اور یہ افسوس تو الیکشن کے رزلٹ دیکھ کے مزید بڑیگا تھوڑا انتظار فرمائیے حضور


خیر عقل کی بات تو نواز شریف کے پیروکاروں پر ویسے بھی اثر نہیں کرتی کیونکہ اگر کچھ عقل ھوتی تو نواز شریف بولے میاں کو اپنا لیڈر نا مانتے۔ لیکن ان کے لیے جن میں کچھ عقل ھے یہ سوال پوچھنا چاھونگا کہ حضرت عمر رضی اللہ عنہ مسلمان ھونے سے کچھ دیر پہلے کیا کرنے جارھے تھے اور ابو سفیان نے کیا کچھ نہیں کیا تھا حضورpbuh کیخلاف اور پھر فتح مکہ کے موقع پر کیا ھوا تھا۔


کیاآپ کوئی خدا ھے جو دلوں کے حال جان لیتے ھیں کہ کس کا دل بدلا اور کس کا نہیں



اور مشرف تو ایک فوجی ڈکٹیٹر تھا لیکن ایک سیاسی پارٹی کے لیڈر صاحبان تو اپنے سویلین ڈکٹیٹر کے سامنے منہ تک نہیں کھول سکتے اور اگر کوئی کھولتا ھے تو انکی حالات جاوید ھاشمی صاحب ، ناھید خان ، ڈاکٹر اسرار شاہ وغیرہ جیسی ھوجاتی ھے جنکو کھڈے لائن لگا دیا جاتا ھیں۔
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