By Syed Zaid Hamid: Understand the Disease which Afflicts the EU and NATO - Evaluating the Muscles o

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)

Understanding the economic prowess and vulnerabilities of the enemy is equally critical as measuring his military strength. While we are having a standoff with US and NATO over multiple national security issues, it is absolutely critical for Pakistan to understand the economic disease which now afflicts the western military alliance threatening us.

US and NATO do not have the economic muscle left to wage another high intensity war against a nuclear armed Islamic nation and the factors to support this analysis are enclosed in this critical analysis by BrassTacks. Knowing the hidden and bitter truth about the critical economic health of the western military alliance gives us a strong edge over the adversary in military and diplomatic negotiations and engagements.

The ill health of western military alliance does not mean that the threats from US and NATO have diminished. The presently deployed 4GW'* is raging against Pak Sarzameen with full ferocity with the objective of turning the state into a failed dysfunctional entity like Somalia. Once that critical threshold is achieved, the next phase would be to make an Iraq of Pakistan, through Af-Pak and Cold Start invasions and occupations. Last phase would be the Yugoslavia model for Pakistan dismemberment and balkanization. We must roll back the presently deployed 4GW and recover from the failed state environment. Blocking the NATO supplies have fatally damaged the planned Af-Pak invasions also and have imposed serious caution on the Indians as well, as Cold Start was to be deployed in tandem with the Af-Pak invasion.

4thGW cannot be defeated without bringing in patriotic government in Islamabad. That is the first and most urgent prerequisite to build a solid response, else all other measures would collapse in the absence of a patriotic government. US and NATO know their inability to use force against Pakistan without making a Somalia or without the Indian help. If we can reverse the 4thGW and kill the Af-Pak, Cold start would automatically be mortally wounded.

For now, US can only use bluff, bribe, threat and psy-ops to try to get their supplies released and re-launch the Af-Pak. Their economy at home has crashed, making it impossible for them to threaten us militarily at this stage. This is their biggest vulnerability and our strength. Know it well and stand firm.

InshAllah khair for Pak Sarzameen.

*4th Generation Warfare (4thGW)

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ambroxo

Minister (2k+ posts)
http://www.esnips.com/displayimage.php?pid=10814479

00:00 starts with Yousuf Kazzab
02:08 there are 100 "sahabas" here sitting (in bait e raza!!)
04:20 introduces abdul wahid. a financer cum"sahabi"
05:30 Abdul Wahid(first "sahabi") arrives to speak
07:20 yousuf kazzab introduces Zaid Zaman as "sahabi"
07:45 to 09:30 Zaid Zaman Hamid speaks to praise yousuf ali in response to his title as "sahabi"
10:10 Yousuf kazzab call bait e raza lahore similar to ghar e hira
14:20 Yousuf kazzab saya all the translations by ulama "naqis"
15:00 Yousuf kazzab says "Allah Muhammad all are one"
24:24 Yousuf kazzab announces all the participants as "jannati". aap kee jannat pakki
26:40 apparent daughter fatimas marriage("apparent" a special terminology used by yousuf kazzab to give similarity to Muhammad sallallaho laihe wasallam,sometimes he used to say "ana muhammad" i am muhammad..to his mureeds..naoozubillah).
47:33 2 and half year old kid announced as having deedar of ALLAH the grandson of "sahabi" Mr Abdul Wahid .
48:48 to 50:40 Yousuf Kazzab says I can see muhammad everywhere.
 

Temojin

Minister (2k+ posts)

Are you sure about his lineage or you placing bohtan, you surely are as you don't know his father's name, now mate don't come with an excuse that he started first because nothing allows us to use false language no matter what.

Thanks.


Mate, why use such language in the first place? If you are supporting the right cause, you just need to go easy, thanks.
 
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Temojin

Minister (2k+ posts)
sorry mate but some times you need to be harsh to be polite and what i am doing is wrong but it suits them.;)

Mate, believe you me if you always stay polite, you'll be amazed at how the opposition gets enraged, you can be harsh but being harsh and being abusive are two different things. When a mujahid goes to the extreme levels of aggression during Jihad, he utters Allahu Akbar and then annihilates the enemy than anything which is not appropriate.

I too am highly critical of army and ZH at times but we can always differ upon opinion but I support their actual cause and what they are doing is nearly impossible for most of us.
 

angryoldman

Minister (2k+ posts)
کسی کی نفرت میں ذاتیات پر نہیں اتر آنا چاہیے .اگر کوئی کافر بھی ہماری تلوار کی نیچے آکر کلمہ پڑھ لے تو ہمیں اسے قتل کرنے کا حکم نہیں باوجود اسکے ہمیں اس بات کا پتا ہو کہ یہ بعد میں ہم پر حملہ کر دی گا.
اگر زائد حامد نی سری دنیا کی سامنے معافی مانگی ہے اپنے آپ کو عاشق
رسول کہتے ہیں مسلمانوں کی لی نیک جذبات ہیں تو دل کی حال الله
:subhanahu: ہی جانتا ہے.اور جہاں ہماری عقل نہیں پونچھ سکتی ان سب معملات کو الله :subhanahu:کی حوالے کر دینا چاہیے کسی کی جنت اور دوزخ کا فیصلہ ہم نہیں کر سکتے.
 

Temojin

Minister (2k+ posts)
sorry I know its really shameful to c such things

but there r some ba...terds
and look
who started this ?
I never start, but if some one else starts ..surly he ll will get reply .. ..

and btw i got this bad habbit from PMA

No wonder I criticize curriculum of PMA :)

See mate, you believe in him being a false person, someone else believes in otherwise but abusing each other doesn't make it work. We know that pope runs a false cult but we don't abuse any of his followers wherever we meet them or engage in a discussion because discussion doesn't contain this thing.

On the other hand, when i delved into this matter of Yousuf, I came to know other facts too from khushnud and Zia Shahid going wayward to LeJ using it for a personal vendetta, yousuf might have never had uttered a single thing blamed upon him. Anyway, matters can be discussed but the internet, specially the forums make things worse; Almost always.

Thanks.
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
کسی کی نفرت میں ذاتیات پر نہیں اتر آنا چاہیے .اگر کوئی کافر بھی ہماری تلوار کی نیچے آکر کلمہ پڑھ لے تو ہمیں اسے قتل کرنے کا حکم نہیں باوجود اسکے ہمیں اس بات کا پتا ہو کہ یہ بعد میں ہم پر حملہ کر دی گا.
اگر زائد حامد نی سری دنیا کی سامنے معافی مانگی ہے اپنے آپ کو عاشق
رسول کہتے ہیں مسلمانوں کی لی نیک جذبات ہیں تو دل کی حال الله
:subhanahu: ہی جانتا ہے.اور جہاں ہماری عقل نہیں پونچھ سکتی ان سب معملات کو الله :subhanahu:کی حوالے کر دینا چاہیے کسی کی جنت اور دوزخ کا فیصلہ ہم نہیں کر سکتے.

فکری طور پر بد دیانت، بے شرم ، کنگال ، اڑیل ٹٹو، کنگال لوگوں کی دماغی کیفیت دولے شاہ کے چوہوں سے بھی بد تر ہوتی ہے........لہٰذہ ان کو ان کی حالت پر چھوڑ دینا چاہیے........... آپ کے علم میں ہو گا ایک جانور ایسا ہے جو کہ ہر آتی جاتی گاڑی کے پیچھے پڑ جاتا ہے مگر تھوڑی دور جا کر تھک کر واپس اپنے مقام پر آ جاتا ہے کہ اگلی گاڑی کا انتظار کرے.......وہ سارا دن اسی کام لگا رہتا ہے.....اور شام کو ناکام و نا مراد وہیں پڑ رہتا ............. جبکہ تمام مسافر اپنی منزلوں کو پوھنچ چکے ہوتے ہیں اور وہ اگلے دن پھر اسی عذاب الہی میں مبتلا ہو جاتا ہے..........الله نے اسے ایک دائمی عذاب میں مبتلا کر رکھا ہوتا ہے..........اس طرح کے جانور نما انسان قابل رحم ہوتے ہیں ........... ڈھیٹ اس قدر کہ حدا کی پناہ

[MENTION=19626]littlemaster[/MENTION], [MENTION=8314]barhaich[/MENTION], [MENTION=13921]janbazali[/MENTION], [MENTION=26671]Ayazzkhan[/MENTION], [MENTION=10172]khanpanni[/MENTION]
 

Imranpak

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Zaid Hamid is hated by the Indian's in particular so must be doing something right!;) His views on Islam are irrelevent to this thread, i do not question his patriotism or love for Pakistan.
 

ambroxo

Minister (2k+ posts)
actually through excessive abuses is the only way in which the followers of zaid can defend him
so that no one will reply and bring his real face ..and wah wah continues
thats y u c only few replies in zaid threads here .

but for me, no one is more respectful than the last Prophet of Allah and all other things can be scarified on his khatam e nabuat

and i will not run away from these jokers

thought i m not follower of Dr. Israr but putting just his video, have just seen. how important is the matter of khatm e nabuuat





No wonder I criticize curriculum of PMA :)

See mate, you believe in him being a false person, someone else believes in otherwise but abusing each other doesn't make it work. We know that pope runs a false cult but we don't abuse any of his followers wherever we meet them or engage in a discussion because discussion doesn't contain this thing.

On the other hand, when i delved into this matter of Yousuf, I came to know other facts too from khushnud and Zia Shahid going wayward to LeJ using it for a personal vendetta, yousuf might have never had uttered a single thing blamed upon him. Anyway, matters can be discussed but the internet, specially the forums make things worse; Almost always.

Thanks.
 
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littlemaster

Minister (2k+ posts)
فکری طور پر بد دیانت، بے شرم ، کنگال ، اڑیل ٹٹو، کنگال لوگوں کی دماغی کیفیت دولے شاہ کے چوہوں سے بھی بد تر ہوتی ہے........لہٰذہ ان کو ان کی حالت پر چھوڑ دینا چاہیے........... آپ کے علم میں ہو گا ایک جانور ایسا ہے جو کہ ہر آتی جاتی گاڑی کے پیچھے پڑ جاتا ہے مگر تھوڑی دور جا کر تھک کر واپس اپنے مقام پر آ جاتا ہے کہ اگلی گاڑی کا انتظار کرے.......وہ سارا دن اسی کام لگا رہتا ہے.....اور شام کو ناکام و نا مراد وہیں پڑ رہتا ............. جبکہ تمام مسافر اپنی منزلوں کو پوھنچ چکے ہوتے ہیں اور وہ اگلے دن پھر اسی عذاب الہی میں مبتلا ہو جاتا ہے..........الله نے اسے ایک دائمی عذاب میں مبتلا کر رکھا ہوتا ہے..........اس طرح کے جانور نما انسان قابل رحم ہوتے ہیں ........... ڈھیٹ اس قدر کہ حدا کی پناہ

@littlemaster, @barhaich, @janbazali, @Ayazzkhan, @khanpanni
wah,,,,,,,,,,,,,lafz by lafz huq.....love it.
 

Temojin

Minister (2k+ posts)
actually through excessive abuses is the only way in which the followers of zaid can defend him
so that no one will reply and bring his real face ..and wah wah continues
thats y u c only few replies in zaid threads here .

but for me, no one is more respectful than the last Prophet of Allah and all other things can be scarified on his khatam e nabuat

and i will not run away from these jokers

thought i m not follower of Dr. Israr but putting just his video, have just seen. how important is the matter of khatm e nabuuat



Tell you what, you don't need to post a single line for the importance of Khatam e Nabuwwat pbuh, agar ispe eeman nahi to phir to gaye bilkul gaye kaam se.

The issue, however is that I had pointed out earlier that things were not as simple as they had been put on table in front of us specially by khabrain group. Anyway, doesn't matter. You too are blaming him for the sake of something which would make you proud on the day of judgement and if you are mistaken, it might not be your fault but the ones who provided false information and spread it like jungle fire and people like me who take panga for ever matter and go to every possible distance in order to ascertain things might also be spared due to knowing what we got to know and then not going with what was fed to most of Pakistanis. Both are at the same page and I am sure about it.

Bass vohi baat koi gali deta hai to dene do bhai. Asl zindagi mein saamne ho to bhi sabr ho sakta ho to verna internet pe to bilkul abss hota hai aisi guftugoo kerna kionke voh barhti hee chali jati hai aur khadan, naslein, baap, maan sab beech mein aa jatay hain jinko shayed pata bhi na ho ke ZH koun hai aur mas'ala kia hai.

jazakAllah.
 

Temojin

Minister (2k+ posts)
[MENTION=23748]ambroxo[/MENTION] [MENTION=19626]littlemaster[/MENTION]

bhaio mein request kerta hoon maan baap ke rishton ko beech mein na lao jinko pata bhi nahi hai aur unke saath yeh ho raha hai, unhon ne acchi hee tarbiyyat ki hogi definitely aap us tabiyyat pe khatt e tanseekh kion phair rahay hain.
 

ambroxo

Minister (2k+ posts)
thats the only way he can defend zaid hamid
so he will not stop

@ambroxo @littlemaster

bhaio mein request kerta hoon maan baap ke rishton ko beech mein na lao jinko pata bhi nahi hai aur unke saath yeh ho raha hai, unhon ne acchi hee tarbiyyat ki hogi definitely aap us tabiyyat pe khatt e tanseekh kion phair rahay hain.
 

Temojin

Minister (2k+ posts)
thats the only way he can defend zaid hamid
so he will not stop

koi to stop ker jaye, ok a proposition, you two have a go at me instead, gussa bhi nikal jayega aur aap log lareinge bhi nahi. I am serious, it is the least I can do to stop two devoted Muslims fight each other.
 

ambroxo

Minister (2k+ posts)
i have no ghusa brother
i m just replying, what he writes back to him

koi to stop ker jaye, ok a proposition, you two have a go at me instead, gussa bhi nikal jayega aur aap log lareinge bhi nahi. I am serious, it is the least I can do to stop two devoted Muslims fight each other.
 

WatanDost

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
@ambroxo @littlemaster




بھائیو خدا راہ اس حد تک نہ جاؤ کے اسی فورم پر موجود "یہود و ہنود" بھی خوشی میں بغلیں بجائیں-
ایک بات یاد رکھیں کے اگر
زید حامد اوپر سے "عاشق رسول" اور اندر سے "یوسف کزابی" ہے تو جس دن اس نے کھل کر کزابیت کہ اظھار کیا
اس دن زید حامد کو ایک چھوڑ ہزار "ممتاز قادری" مل جائیں گے-
فلحال ہمیں زید حامد کو بحیثیت ایک موحب وطن تسلیم کرنا چاہیے-

سب سے بڑی بات جو زمینی حقیقت ہے کے
زید حامد کی حب ال وطنی سب سے زیادہ تکلیف "ذریت ہنود" کو پونچاتی ہے -
ہمیں چاہیے کے اگر ہم اس کو پسند نہیں بھی کرتے تو اس کو اپنا کام کرنے دیں -
ہم اپنا کام کرتے رہیں -
جزاک الله



 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
@ambroxo @littlemaster




بھائیو خدا راہ اس حد تک نہ جاؤ کے اسی فورم پر موجود "یہود و ہنود" بھی خوشی میں بغلیں بجائیں-
ایک بات یاد رکھیں کے اگر
زید حامد اوپر سے "عاشق رسول" اور اندر سے "یوسف کزابی" ہے تو جس دن اس نے کھل کر کزابیت کہ اظھار کیا
اس دن زید حامد کو ایک چھوڑ ہزار "ممتاز قادری" مل جائیں گے-
فلحال ہمیں زید حامد کو بحیثیت ایک موحب وطن تسلیم کرنا چاہیے-

سب سے بڑی بات جو زمینی حقیقت ہے کے
زید حامد کی حب ال وطنی سب سے زیادہ تکلیف "ذریت ہنود" کو پونچاتی ہے -
ہمیں چاہیے کے اگر ہم اس کو پسند نہیں بھی کرتے تو اس کو اپنا کام کرنے دیں -
ہم اپنا کام کرتے رہیں -
جزاک الله




100% agreed Bro! But I fear you won't be able to knock some sense into dumb heads/bigots.
I pray U succeed.