Bureaucracy making life difficult for govt

Imran the legend

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Imran Khan has blamed the bureaucracy for making the life of his eight-month-old administration difficult by being lethargic, by not signing the files and by being indecisive.
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In a candid conversation spanning over two hours with editors and owners of the country’s leading newspapers on Thursday, the prime minister listed economy, institution building, on-going negotiations with the Financial Action Task Force (FATF), employment creation and constructing low-cost affordable housing for the lower and middle-income segments of the society as major challenges for his administration.

Prime Minister Khan was clearly looking less than satisfied with the way the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) and the Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) are working at the moment. At a time when serious questions are being asked about the way NAB is conducting the accountability process, especially after the recent suicide of a retired brigadier on March 15, who penned a letter before ending his life to avoid public humiliation at the hands of the Bureau, prime minister’s words emitted unease. “Will NAB ever catch the influential and the powerful?”

He said the small time crooks that the Bureau was busy chasing would fall in line if the mighty gangsters were served exemplary punishment. In his opinion, the Bureau had opened up a Pandora’s box of tedious and time-consuming inquiries that was taking the sparsely staffed institution down.

He also sounded a tad unhappy while talking about the way FBR has been duplicitous in its working -- drafting policy and busy collecting taxes. Citing the examples of India and Bangladesh to drive home his argument, the prime minister said exports of countries in our region have gone up while ours have fallen below the $24 billion mark. “The industry has been ruined in the process of tax collection. The non-filers are not willing to join the tax net for they feel it won’t serve any purpose. We are going to reform it.” How can a country be solvent if 60 to 80 percent of its economy is black, undocumented, he questioned.

Imran repeatedly reverted to Pakistan’s faltering economy after every few questions. He talked about the threat still looming over Pakistan’s head of moving from grey to black list of the FATF and said any such eventuality would be disastrous for the country. We are working on the conditions and hope the situation would improve, he said. To a question as to what was Pakistan doing to come out of the tricky situation when four major western countries – the US, the UK, France & Germany – are constantly seeking to list Jaish-e-Muhammad’s leader, Hafiz Masood Azhar as a global terrorist, the prime minister said it was a serious issue and work was being done to avoid serious damage to the country’s international relations.

The prime minister also said the nation could be in for a “happy news” with the next three weeks and then went on to elaborate what that news could be. He said the offshore drilling for oil in the Arabian Sea was in final stages and there could be a major find. “I implore that we all pray that Pakistan gets this natural resource in substantial quantity.”

When asked what necessitated his meeting with Pakistan’s four top military chiefs on March 20, the prime minister while praying the rosary, said his Indian counterpart – Narendra Modi – could invoke the politics of hatred to win the election. “Pakistan needs to remain vigilant till the elections are over.” If the recent events [Pak-India border tension and downing of Indian MiG-21] have helped him a little, he might not take a chance, Imran Khan said. “But if it has harmed him and his rating are sliding, then we need to remain alert.” He described the terror incidents in Balochistan as part of the same subversive tactics. To counter such attacks, there was a possible plan to talk to Baloch leaders holed up in foreign countries, he said.

Flanked by his close aides and media go-getters – Federal Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry, Naeemul Haq, Iftikhar Durrani, Yousuf Baig Mirza, Federal Secretary Information & Broadcasting Shafqat Jalil and Principal Information Officer Mian Jehangir Iqbal, Prime Minister Imran Khan forced a few murmurs and raised eyebrows when he explained that the United Arab Emirates (UAE) had never promised to provide oil worth $3.2 billion on deferred payment. It was widely reported in the Pakistani media quoting cabinet members that Pakistan had clinched a deal with the UAE like the one secured earlier with Saudi Arabia. But the prime minister’s perspective was: “They never agreed to it. They told us their rules do not allow [such a transaction].”

He agreed with questioners that Pakistan needed to take decisive action against militant organisations that had been allowed in the past to mushroom. Citing history, Imran Khan said these outfits might have had a use in the past.

“But how can a country allow such militias to operate. We should have taken care of them a long time ago.” Asking for societal help to achieve such a goal, he said Pakistan could not afford [activities of] such groups. “There was no Pakistani involvement in Pulwama but we were blamed nonetheless. All political parties signed up to the National Action Plan that promised to finish off these outfits but no one took any action. We are chasing them now and we will take care of them.”

To a suggestion that his government could have asked the Gulf states to import around half a million Pakistani workers who in turn would have sent the much valued and direly needed dollar remittances rather than borrowing billions, the prime minister said some work was being done on those lines and hoped a 100,000 Pakistani workers would soon be heading to Qatar for employment. But then he said his plan was to start producing “skilled workers” rather than exporting menial labour, hoping they would be of much higher value in countries needing skilled workers.

Imran once again emphasised the need to develop tourism as a stable money earner for the country and promised a major plan in this regard would be unveiled soon. “But if we have conditions where our neighbours – India and Iran – are accusing us of terrorism, no tourist would come here.”

He said the society needed to be more tolerant of divergent views and beliefs. But blamed the dichotomy wherein the “English-medium” rulers handed over the country and society to mullahs while trying to fashion Pakistan on western orientation. “Today, people like Maulana Fazlur Rehman are holding us hostages to their interpretation of religion. And who would dare challenge groups like Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan when they gather outside Islamabad saying they are there to protect the sanctity of the Prophet [PBUH]. Neither police nor army can control such a situation. But we will shut such groups.”

While most of the discussion focused on economy and politics of the country, a few questions were asked about his choice of men for important executive posts – like Punjab Chief Minister Usman Buzdar. Imran patiently listened to the criticism and questions but strongly defended his man in Punjab and asked critics to be patient while Buzdar was learning the ropes of the job.

Towards the end, when his staff was getting itchy and wanted the prime ministerial conversation to culminate, Imran told that he spoke to the New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern yesterday and shared thoughts on the Christchurch tragedy. He said the Ms Ardern must be praised for the way she handled the situation that arose after the terrorist attack on the Al-Noor Mosque. The prime minister also said he was sincerely impressed by the courage and composure of Mrs Naeem Rashid during her TV interview. “She presented the true picture of Islam.”
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insouciant

Minister (2k+ posts)
"If the recent events [Pak-India border tension and downing of Indian MiG-21] have helped him a little"

If subtly putting the Indian narrative of only one Jet was downed in brackets in the PM's actual conversation is not enough for you to see who the GEO/THE NEWS network is working for then I don't know what else can!! ???
 

imran_hosein_fan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Sub se ziyada harami he babu loag hain! Jab tak new generation aagay nhe aati yeh buddhay babu aisay he maslay masail paida kertay rahein ge
 

muhammadadeel

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
bereaucracy ko theek kerne ka plan banain phr. 5 saal baad koi ye nh dekha beurecracy na madad ki ya nh ki, responsible app hi honge. fbr and nab agar nh kaam kerrha tu foran nae idare laen jase aapne kaha tha, zaada wait nh keren warna bahut der hojaegi

ہم لوگ ہر چیز کو پانچ سال پر ڈالنے کے عادی ہیں
 

sab_tamasha_hai

Minister (2k+ posts)
Make new laws that send them home or resign. The naked truth is that khan was eager to have the top chair with no vision but words. We knew that there are problems in this god for saken country that is why we elected him. He is just telling us that there are problems and that they are busy doing nothing but complaining.
Those laws will require a 2/3rd majority in Parliament and then they are required to pass through Senate where PTI does not have a majority. You also cannot make laws overnight, it will take time. Bureaucracy is in his list, but I think his current priority is not to fix all of them at once but the ones directly related to economic activities. After getting some inflow and outflow, I think he will move to other institutions. All of these will take time, it is his first time and he has a country which is on the verge of default and war.

Give them a little time and have some patience. InshaAllah Khan will deliver.
 

gumnam123

MPA (400+ posts)
Those laws will require a 2/3rd majority in Parliament and then they are required to pass through Senate where PTI does not have a majority. You also cannot make laws overnight, it will take time. Bureaucracy is in his list, but I think his current priority is not to fix all of them at once but the ones directly related to economic activities. After getting some inflow and outflow, I think he will move to other institutions. All of these will take time, it is his first time and he has a country which is on the verge of default and war.

Give them a little time and have some patience. InshaAllah Khan will deliver.
no that is wrong. if you cant change the laws with 2/3rd majority then come out and say it. do a press conference and tell all the problems and the plan to deal with them. take the public on board. actions speak louder than words. there seems to be no plan. everybody already knew that bureaucracy was going to be trouble, we wanted to know of the plan ik had to deal with it. this is a big responsibility to correct the bureaucracy no ifs or buts about it. if ik cant handle it then he should not have become prime minister.
 

muhammadadeel

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Make new laws that send them home or resign. The naked truth is that khan was eager to have the top chair with no vision but words. We knew that there are problems in this god for saken country that is why we elected him. He is just telling us that there are problems and that they are busy doing nothing but complaining.

I agree with 100% with what u said

BUT

how do u actually formulate such laws. A system where a PM can't even dismiss a clerk.

Remember Bhutto changed Pakistan from Presidential system to Parliamentary Democracy (Senate + Parliament) this has taken all powers away from the PM. PM can only wait while Senate debates for 3 weeks before passing any laws and u know the loop holes that can be discovered and then we go into another 2 months.

There is a reason I say "?? Iran has not digested just like ?? India, existence of ?? Pakistan". As it creates a counter weight for ?? Arabs against ?? Iran. And Iran has used Shias of Pakistan against Pakistan Bhutto's. Like changing Pakistan system from Presidential to Parliamentary Democracy + Senate. Which has kept Pakistan in lingers for last 50 years since Bhutto introduced the system.
 

Imran the legend

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Mr khan you are disappointing me at least.
You are the boss man. Don't complain just send them home.
talking rubbish from outside is easy like you are. But reality is need to change laws past 40 years corrupt mafia ruled didn’t reform anything apart from filling there bank accounts.
Also need money your corrupt bosses have looted it will take time
 

intekhab

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Hooor chupoooo potiaans.....every day new excuse.....kidhar gayeee team.....now potiaan eyes are opening and started talking some sense otherwise alll nonsense and were flying in the dream world of thick heads.....the mess created by these dictators are not easy to clean ...it will take time.
 

islamabadi

Minister (2k+ posts)
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Imran Khan has blamed the bureaucracy for making the life of his eight-month-old administration difficult by being lethargic, by not signing the files and by being indecisive.
447047_7509487_IMRAN-KHAN1_akhbar.jpg

In a candid conversation spanning over two hours with editors and owners of the country’s leading newspapers on Thursday, the prime minister listed economy, institution building, on-going negotiations with the Financial Action Task Force (FATF), employment creation and constructing low-cost affordable housing for the lower and middle-income segments of the society as major challenges for his administration.

Prime Minister Khan was clearly looking less than satisfied with the way the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) and the Federal Board of Revenue (FBR) are working at the moment. At a time when serious questions are being asked about the way NAB is conducting the accountability process, especially after the recent suicide of a retired brigadier on March 15, who penned a letter before ending his life to avoid public humiliation at the hands of the Bureau, prime minister’s words emitted unease. “Will NAB ever catch the influential and the powerful?”

He said the small time crooks that the Bureau was busy chasing would fall in line if the mighty gangsters were served exemplary punishment. In his opinion, the Bureau had opened up a Pandora’s box of tedious and time-consuming inquiries that was taking the sparsely staffed institution down.

He also sounded a tad unhappy while talking about the way FBR has been duplicitous in its working -- drafting policy and busy collecting taxes. Citing the examples of India and Bangladesh to drive home his argument, the prime minister said exports of countries in our region have gone up while ours have fallen below the $24 billion mark. “The industry has been ruined in the process of tax collection. The non-filers are not willing to join the tax net for they feel it won’t serve any purpose. We are going to reform it.” How can a country be solvent if 60 to 80 percent of its economy is black, undocumented, he questioned.

Imran repeatedly reverted to Pakistan’s faltering economy after every few questions. He talked about the threat still looming over Pakistan’s head of moving from grey to black list of the FATF and said any such eventuality would be disastrous for the country. We are working on the conditions and hope the situation would improve, he said. To a question as to what was Pakistan doing to come out of the tricky situation when four major western countries – the US, the UK, France & Germany – are constantly seeking to list Jaish-e-Muhammad’s leader, Hafiz Masood Azhar as a global terrorist, the prime minister said it was a serious issue and work was being done to avoid serious damage to the country’s international relations.

The prime minister also said the nation could be in for a “happy news” with the next three weeks and then went on to elaborate what that news could be. He said the offshore drilling for oil in the Arabian Sea was in final stages and there could be a major find. “I implore that we all pray that Pakistan gets this natural resource in substantial quantity.”

When asked what necessitated his meeting with Pakistan’s four top military chiefs on March 20, the prime minister while praying the rosary, said his Indian counterpart – Narendra Modi – could invoke the politics of hatred to win the election. “Pakistan needs to remain vigilant till the elections are over.” If the recent events [Pak-India border tension and downing of Indian MiG-21] have helped him a little, he might not take a chance, Imran Khan said. “But if it has harmed him and his rating are sliding, then we need to remain alert.” He described the terror incidents in Balochistan as part of the same subversive tactics. To counter such attacks, there was a possible plan to talk to Baloch leaders holed up in foreign countries, he said.

Flanked by his close aides and media go-getters – Federal Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry, Naeemul Haq, Iftikhar Durrani, Yousuf Baig Mirza, Federal Secretary Information & Broadcasting Shafqat Jalil and Principal Information Officer Mian Jehangir Iqbal, Prime Minister Imran Khan forced a few murmurs and raised eyebrows when he explained that the United Arab Emirates (UAE) had never promised to provide oil worth $3.2 billion on deferred payment. It was widely reported in the Pakistani media quoting cabinet members that Pakistan had clinched a deal with the UAE like the one secured earlier with Saudi Arabia. But the prime minister’s perspective was: “They never agreed to it. They told us their rules do not allow [such a transaction].”

He agreed with questioners that Pakistan needed to take decisive action against militant organisations that had been allowed in the past to mushroom. Citing history, Imran Khan said these outfits might have had a use in the past.

“But how can a country allow such militias to operate. We should have taken care of them a long time ago.” Asking for societal help to achieve such a goal, he said Pakistan could not afford [activities of] such groups. “There was no Pakistani involvement in Pulwama but we were blamed nonetheless. All political parties signed up to the National Action Plan that promised to finish off these outfits but no one took any action. We are chasing them now and we will take care of them.”

To a suggestion that his government could have asked the Gulf states to import around half a million Pakistani workers who in turn would have sent the much valued and direly needed dollar remittances rather than borrowing billions, the prime minister said some work was being done on those lines and hoped a 100,000 Pakistani workers would soon be heading to Qatar for employment. But then he said his plan was to start producing “skilled workers” rather than exporting menial labour, hoping they would be of much higher value in countries needing skilled workers.

Imran once again emphasised the need to develop tourism as a stable money earner for the country and promised a major plan in this regard would be unveiled soon. “But if we have conditions where our neighbours – India and Iran – are accusing us of terrorism, no tourist would come here.”

He said the society needed to be more tolerant of divergent views and beliefs. But blamed the dichotomy wherein the “English-medium” rulers handed over the country and society to mullahs while trying to fashion Pakistan on western orientation. “Today, people like Maulana Fazlur Rehman are holding us hostages to their interpretation of religion. And who would dare challenge groups like Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan when they gather outside Islamabad saying they are there to protect the sanctity of the Prophet [PBUH]. Neither police nor army can control such a situation. But we will shut such groups.”

While most of the discussion focused on economy and politics of the country, a few questions were asked about his choice of men for important executive posts – like Punjab Chief Minister Usman Buzdar. Imran patiently listened to the criticism and questions but strongly defended his man in Punjab and asked critics to be patient while Buzdar was learning the ropes of the job.

Towards the end, when his staff was getting itchy and wanted the prime ministerial conversation to culminate, Imran told that he spoke to the New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern yesterday and shared thoughts on the Christchurch tragedy. He said the Ms Ardern must be praised for the way she handled the situation that arose after the terrorist attack on the Al-Noor Mosque. The prime minister also said he was sincerely impressed by the courage and composure of Mrs Naeem Rashid during her TV interview. “She presented the true picture of Islam.”
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You will get my answer by reading this.

https://www.theatlantic.com/news/ar...f-police-civil-servants-and-academics/533754/

Last year Erdogan DISMISSED 125,000 people from turkish bureaucracy/police/ military/journalists/ gullu butts/ government employees. 50,000 were jailed. IK if you are reading this....you didnt and that is why you had the incident in Sahiwal. Erdogan HAS DONE what you DREAM of doing. Your PIA/Pak Steel/ FBR / entire bureaucracy is filled with donkeys. You need to recruit the best brains available....but problem is nobody will work for you after you made your currency worthless. Your entire PTI Punjab assembly members have asked for a pay raise otherwise they will leave your PTI
 
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FSociety

Senator (1k+ posts)
talking rubbish from outside is easy like you are. But reality is need to change laws past 40 years corrupt mafia ruled didn’t reform anything apart from filling there bank accounts.
Also need money your corrupt bosses have looted it will take time
FK u for judging me!!!
I see a reflection of govt performance from your choice of words. Since when pti started parwarism? You definitely smells like a pti patwari or extremely ignorant. It is my right to criticize those whom i choose among many to solve my problem because they promised so. If pti is paying people to support their parties unprofessional attitude then i am not surprised!
 

Imran the legend

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
FK u for judging me!!!
I see a reflection of govt performance from your choice of words. Since when pti started parwarism? You definitely smells like a pti patwari or extremely ignorant. It is my right to criticize those whom i choose among many to solve my problem because they promised so. If pti is paying people to support their parties unprofessional attitude then i am not surprised!
What a stupid pmln guy you are it’s not your fault. It’s the fault of your corrupt master Nawaz and zardari chor didn’t invest on humans so you are the outcome. Gatia aadmi