yaad dehani k liaey dubara likh deta hoon iska javab do ya mano k deobandi k ye teeno ulema.
Ashraf ali thanvi sahab
qasim nonotvi sahab
rasheed gangohi sahab
mushrik they ,badd aqeeda they ,munafik they (kionkey unho ne pir k haath pe bait kee)
shut up!
you have something personal with Tablighi jamaat. Thats why you don't find any evil in any other Jamaat, or school of thought and in particular Barelvis, Shias etc.
I think this thread is linked with tableeghi jamaat ,you post links about other sects i will give my views on them also.
I follow Uleema deoband and I am proud of that. I am not a mouse like you who is hiding under this "that you don't follow any school of thought". But you have soft corner for Minhaj Ul Quran thats why you keep on supporting that clown and keep on posting his videos.
You should be ashamed of that because there is only munafiqat i can find in this deobandi sect.
their own elders have Pirs but they are against pir they call it shirk.
they have double standards their own buzurgs are not doing shirk when they follow a Pir but when someone else does that then he commits shirk.
extreme munifiqat.
You are making me say that tariq jameel is the biggest clown i have ever seen.
I did not want to get personal but this is how you have expressed yourself.
instead of argument you have come up with personal abusive comments.shame on you.
hindus are proud of their religion jews are proud of their religion even qadianis are proud of their religion what is the point in stating this stupid argument.
Expose your self, BY Allah i will show you the true picture of the one you follow. But please don't tell me you are Ahmedi than you are not worth arguing, End of Story. I have seen you on other forum that you always try to put down deoband and their Uleema. But don't worry InshAllah I will chalenge you on each and every forum.
Ulta chore kotwal ko dantey............
baat kr rahey they unity ki abb , agey deoband pe, Iam proud of it, to meree jan sarey jis se proud hotey hain vohi kehlatey hain oroon pe kion gila krtey ho.tum khud aik sectarian soch k malik ho tum apney aap ko musalman nhi debandi kehtey ho phir kis mun se unity ki batain krtey ho.
bund kro ye munafiqat.
Tu kia chellenge krey ga apni munfikat hi show kr raha he hr jaga.jo sawal kiaey unkey jawab to dhoond kia terey deogandi ulema k liaey pir jaiz he baki logo k liaey nhi jaiz ,
ye zara quran o hadyt se sabit kr
Let me tell you, you have no solid arguments just thick headedness that Tablighi jamaat this and that.Every thing we say are Lies and every thing any other maulvi say appart from deoband is sure hadith. According to you all other school of thoughts is full of angels and Janati. All of them are of very high repute and honour, yeah u devil!!!!!!!!!.
devil tera --- ho ga tameez k dairey me reh...............
achey burey log hr jaga hotey hain me nazriat ki baat kr raha hoon shakhsiat ki nhi.
ilmi ikhtelaaf to imamo me b tha..........lakin shayad tum logo ko ye sikhaya hi nhi jata tum log to bs apney aap ko paidaishi janaati samhajtey ho.baki sarey kafir mushrik hain.yahi tum deo ka aqeeda he isi ki vaja se dehshat gardi phelaiee hoee he tum deogand valo ne.
me is terha ki guftugu ka aadi nhi lakin tum shayad arguments pe beliaeve hi nhi kretey tumhara kaam keechar uchalana he lakin ye nahi jantey k is se apney kaprey b gandey hotey hain.
But if you support barelvism, qadianism, than I would love to talk about your imam AHmed raza kahn barelvi and his talimaat. I would ask you to answer why Britisher created these two sects, Barelvism and Qadianism. (Just to Divide and rule the Ummah.) And Jahils like you fell for it. Some jahils joined Ahmed Raza Barelvi and some Jahils Joined Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani. I know how he was successfull in destroying the Talimaat of original deen with the help of british monarchs. How he was successfull in labelling uleema deoband as Wahabis, because they (Uleema Depoband) issued a fatwa to muslims of India not to fight along with Britisher against muslim Turks. So they have to pay for the price till today with the stigma of Wahabism.
Now its really coming out of you the hatred against all other people.............that was the point i was trying to prove you proved it yourself.
thats the real face of tableeghi jamaat thats what i said tableeghi jamaat only mission is to spread deobandi taleemat amoung muslims its a pure sectarian jamaat.
you challenged me to prove that just read your comments i have just proved that.
everyone can see the hatred in hearts of tableeghi munafikeen jamaat exposed here.
You are just a hate monger nothing else................baat kr raha tha k musalamo ko unite hona chahey munafiq..........
Kis ne tareekh me kia role ada kia kis ne angrezo se kia lia kis ne muslim league ka saath diya kis ne congress ka saath diya kis ne qaid e azam se rishwat me 50000 rupey mangey ,kis ne naya firka banaya ye khuli kitab ki tarha vazih he.
Hazrat imdad ullah mahajr makki tk sab theek tha un tk piri mureedi jaiz thee milad jaiz tha lakin baad me pata nhi kis pe vahi aa gaiee k ye sab najaiz ho gaiey ya koi angrezo ka paisa chal gaya.kis ne eeman baicha zara tareekh ka mutalia krna aankhain sharam se jhuk jain gee teree.
baki ulema e deoband ki hasiat kia he to vo kisi se dhaki chupi nhi aaj b deband me paisey le kr fatwey diye jatey hain vohi silsila chala a raha he.
Well your maulvis are still following their imams traditions, (because their Imam also betrayed muslims of India) He started calling every body Kafir because they voice against west oppression. Majority of your maulvi are OUT FOR SALE and are on Zionist payroll thats why they come on CNN and call muslim freedom fighter terrorist, and never condemn jews attrocities. Thats the reason sufism, shiasm and qadianis are acceptable to west and nothing else.
Instead of answering my question you are putting baseless alegations you cannot run away like that.answer this kia piri mureedi jaiz he
1. Moulana Qasim Nanotwi (d. 1879): “The Darul-Uloom Deoband (the School of Deoband founded in 1868) was founded by Moulana Qasim Nanotwi.”[1] He was ba’yt (taken the oath of allegiance) at the hands of Imdadullah Muhajir Makki.[2]
2. Imdadullah Muhajir Makki (d. 1899): The highly reveredPir (spiritual guide) of the Deobandis. He is the spiritual guide of Moulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi, Moulana Qasim Nanotwi and Moulana Rasheed Ahmad Gangohi.
3. Moulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi (d. 1943): He was ba’yt at the hands of Haji Imdadullah Muhajir Makki and the author of many books like, “Bahishti Zewar” and ‘Tafseer Bayanul Qur’aan’. He named many of his books after his Pir, Imdadullah Muhajir Makki.
Like Imdadullah Muhajir Makki, Ashraf Ali Thanvi too was an advocate of Wahdat al-Wajood. Ashraf Ali Thanvi’s teachings greatly influenced the founder of the Jamaat Tableegh, Moulana Ilyas.
4. Rasheed Ahmad Gangohi (d. 1908): Another prominent elder of the Deobandis, who was ba’yt at the hands of Imdadullah Muhajir Makki.[3] One of his famous books is ‘Imdadus Sulook.’
5. Moulana Ilyas, popularly known as Hazratjee: (d. 1944): He was the founder and first Amir of the Jamaat Tableegh. He was the Khalifah (successor) of Khalil Ahmad Saharanpuri, who was amongst the Khulafa of Rasheed Ahmad Gungohi.[4] He founded the Jamaat Tableegh on Sufi principles and incorporated many Sufi practices like Muraqabah (meditation), Chillah (40 day seclusion period) and the silent Dhikr (remembrance) into the routines of his Jamaat.
7. Moulana Muhammad Yusuf (d. 1965): Moulana Ilyas was succeeded by his son, Moulana Muhammad Yusuf (d. 1965), who became the second Amir of the Jamaat Tableegh. Inamul-Hasan succeeded Moulana Muhammad Yusuf.
8. Moulana Zakariyah: The son-in-law of Moulana Ilyas[5] and the author of Fazaail-e-Aamaal. He was well acquainted with Sufism and was given the Khilafah of all the four Sufi Tareeqahs by Moulana Khalil Ahmad Saharanpuri.[6]
[1] Mashaikh-e-Chist (Eng. Trans.) p.222.
[2] Irshaadul-Mulook (Eng. Trans.) p.32.
[3] Irshaadul-Mulook, (Eng. Trans.) p.32.
[4] Irshaadul-Mulook, (Eng. Trans.) p.12.
[5] Mashaikh-e-Chist (Eng. Trans.) p.307.
[6] Mashaikh-e-Chist (Eng. Trans.) p.304-305.
Is munafiqat ka kia jawab do gey tumharey barey buzurg to piri mureedi krtey rahey aaj kis mun se shirk ki batain krtey ho.
ya to ye mano k ye sab b mushrik hain to phir kam az kam asool to aik banta he.
lakin agar ye mushrik nhi ore baki piri mureedi valey mushrik hain to phir to ye MUNAFIQAT saaf zahir he vazih saboot he k kon angrezo k haatho bika kis ne eeman ka soda kia kis ne deen me naya firka banaya.
jahan tk mera ilm he barelvio ka hazrat imdad ullah mahajir makki k aqeedey se koi ikhtelaaf nhi.................
abb btao kon angrezo k haatho bika.?
Tumharey ashraf ali thanvi ,rasheed gangohi and qasim nanotvi ne to Imdad ullah mahajir makki k mureed they agar sufism buree he to ye gunah to in teeno ne sab se pehley kia he deobandion me.inkey barey me kia irshaad frmaien gey ??????????
debandion ne sirf logo ko islam se daraya hi he aaj jo chehra islam ka dunya k samney he is me deobandion ka bara haath he.
vo sufia karam hi they jinko daikh kr bar e sagheer k hinduoon ne apna mazhab chore diya ore islam me dakhil ho gaiey.
Tum deobandion ne tu ulta musalamno ko islam se dore krey ki baree koshish kee he.
You didn't find one right person in entire Tablighi Jamaat, shame on you while saying that, and you never feared Allah while Lying. Don't worry we are used to all that criticism, still we are expanding in every corner of the world. That is the Dalil of Haque.
Shame on you ,you could not produce one right person...........
Itna jhoot ore bakwaas likh likh kr abb jnaab mujhey Allah se dara rahey hain ........qurbaan jaon aapki saadgi pr.
matalab dheet ho gaey ho sun sun kr lakin kabi socha nhi k itna log kentey hain tankeed krtey hain to sara nhi kuch tora bohut masla to ho ga hi!!!!!!!!!!
tum kia ore tumharee daleeelain kia nazar a raha he tum kia tableegh kro gey.
ghar me bevi behn beti ki koi khabar nhi masoof chila laganey gaey hoey hain.
yaar kia baat ki he tum ne tum tu akhbaar se b saadey ho yaar isi tarha koi apni soch ki tableegh se haq vala bun jata to qadiani jo apni mazhab ki tableegh kr kr k thak gaiey hain vo na haq valey bun jatey.qadiani to qadiani kazab hi rahey gain chahey vo jitni tableegh kion na kr lain..........ore tum gund hi raho gey chahey jitna be deo ki publicity kr lo.
You will find Tablighi markaz in every corner of the world. Even a small country like Fiji. And you can not stomach that, thats your biggest problem. Now according to you Tablighi Jamaat are liar and after money etc etc. Well that is their personal thing, Allah might forgive them. But remember the Hyprocites, who betrayed their muslim brothers and were friends of Yahood o Nasara, and died without Tauba will be in the first level of Hell fire. Level from where the Hell fire will start. So watch your mouth before you speak.
so what buraiee kafi ziada ho gaee he hr jaga aapko miley gee..
personal sirf vo hain jo Allah or bandey k darmian hain baki hkook ul ibaad personal nhi kisi ka haq maar k aap isko personal nhi keh saktey.
bs kr munafikat chore me ne sabit kr diya he k tableeghion ka masad sirf deoband ki taleemat ko spread krna he deobandi firkey ko phelana he muslamano me koi gher muslim phans gaya to theek vera main mission muslamano me deobandiat ka firogh he.baki masalik pe jehan moka miley khoob keechar uchalna he.ore unity k naam pe sirf debandi aqaid ko promote krna he.jhoot chahey jitna bolo koi masla nhi ,haram chahey jitna khao koi masla nhi munafikat chahey jitni karo koi masla nhi mamlaat ki to koi baat hi nhi hotee.bevi k kia hakook hain koi parva nhi awlad k kia hakook hain koi zimawari nhi man baap k kia hakook hain koi parva nhi.baki maashrey k kia hakook hain koi parva nhi sirf chiley laganey pe zore he.hooro ki lalach he.
You still have time to repent and open your heart. Read the history yourself and than pass judgement. You keep on posting videos don't you have any knowledge of yours. you should confront me on your own findings and not baseless arguments. I naratted an eye witness accounnt of Chille and you refuted that. Let me tell you WHO SO EVER LIE ON THAT particular account shall be burnt in Hell fire, and who so ever refute that on the basis of refuting it shall be burnt in Hell fire. AMEEN.
tu shayad khud hadyt likhta ho me sirf quote hi kr sakta hoon.............
baki jo baat Hazrat Imdadullah Mahajir makki r.a ne kahi vo main quote hi kr sakta ho apnee taraf se mansoob kr k nhi keh sakta............
shayad tumharey liaey jaiz ho lakin merey nazdeek ye munafikat he.
baki video me jo imdad ullah mahajir makki r.a k barey main baatain kee gaie hain unka refrence agar ghalat he to btao me accept kr longa if you give some prove of it.
agar sach hain to phir ye munafikat choro ore Hazrat imdadullah mahajir makki r.a k aqeedey pe ajao jo qasim nonotvi,ashraf ali thanvi ore rasheed gangohi k Pir hain.
Iska b jawab chahiey k imdad ulallah mahajir makki r.a jo deoband ki teno barey ulema k Pir hain unkey ore debandio k aqeedey me itna fark kion he.
In dono vakiat k jawab do jo haji Imdad ullah mahajir makki r.a k refrence se bayan kiaey gaiey hain.
ye btao abb Pir ghalat tha ya uskey mureed ??????????????
Iska b jawab de dena jo aiterazaat Professor rafiq ahmad akhtar sahab ne kiaey hain.
in sab k jawab nhi hain to phir takleef na krna.
