Apas Ki Baat - 13th February 2012 - PM indicted/ Response to Jemima

[hawaskapujari]

atleast i have a brain. i dont believe in fairy tales imported from the old testament.

You pissed off because you can't say anything. It was you who claimed that you have a "Big" brain and you can understand things very good but the matter of fact is that your Skull is just filled with Shrubs and Dust.There is nothing in your brain if you can't prove your claim or convince me about your statement.

There are many who don't believe in God and Prophets (A.S.) so you would also be one of them.

 

[Nice2MU]

atleast i have a brain. i dont believe in fairy tales imported from the old testament.

Quran has no old or new Testament but the matter of fact is that you don't know about Quran.

The Stories which you are calling as "Fairy Tales" either due to your naiveness or you are not Muslim.

 

[Cheeko]

If Salman is really a Khan then his forefathers had never been Hindus or not even non-Muslims Mr. Read the history of Pashtoons.

They have never been non-Muslims (i.e. Disobeyed to any Prophet) and they become Muslims (i.e. Mohammadis) as a whole Tribe not one by one.

Read the history then comment.

Any factual testament to what you said. Interested to know.

 

[Nice2MU]

Any factual testament to what you said. Interested to know.

Ya I have read a famous book of Pasthuns History when I was in Peshawar but I don't remember its name. If I would find its name or writer name, I would like to share. I tried to find it on Internet, but couldn't find it.

Sorry for this time.

 

[Cheeko]

If Salman is really a Khan then his forefathers had never been Hindus or not even non-Muslims Mr. Read the history of Pashtoons.

They have never been non-Muslims (i.e. Disobeyed to any Prophet) and they become Muslims (i.e. Mohammadis) as a whole Tribe not one by one.

Read the history then comment.

Though a religious evidence from Quran and Hadees pertaining to these matters is crucial but I give you the time equivalent to your remaining lifetime to prove whats highlighted by me in your post from any authentic source even besides Quran and Hadees because I am very much interested to gain knowledge.

 

[Nice2MU]

Though a religious evidence from Quran and Hadees pertaining to these matters is crucial but I give you the time equivalent to your remaining lifetime to prove whats highlighted by me in your post from any authentic source even besides Quran and Hadees because I am very much interested to gain knowledge.

Few highlights remember to me from that book are:

Pashtun history is very ancient starts from about 5000 years ago. Up to 3200 years, the history is authentic and referenced where as the rest is based on Qiyaas or assumptions

Hazrat Yaqoob (Alaih Salam) had 12 sons, one of them was named as Yahooda. Yahooda branched in to many and one branch name was Pasthuns's ancestors.

Pashtuns believes that their ancestors have never been remained non-Muslim. They obeyed collectively to every Prophet (A.S.) and at the time of Jesus (A.S.) they become Christians.

After the departure of Jesus, Jews started amendments in Bible and hurt Christians too much. At that time this Tribe thought that if they would remain there, Jews would destroyed them completely. So they decided to leave that place and ended in the area called Khurasan (Afghanistan and surrounding areas). And waited there for the time of Muhammad (PBUH).

And when got to know that Muhammad (PBUH) had emerged and was in Madina, they sent a delegation to confirm whether it was the same prophet for whom they were waiting. When they got confirmed, the delegation became Muslim and on their arrival to Afghanistan, the whole tribe become Muslim.



Wikipedia has giving some details based on references. You can consult that as well. Meanwhile I would try to find the name of the book. If I would in Pakistan, it could be much easier for me.

Nothing can be authentic to Quran and Hadeeth but about normal history books, you would have to believe but this believe doesn't disturb you Emaan.

 

[Abdulmaalik]

Indeed the forefathers of most of us were Hindus.But, Alhamdolillha, we are muslims.Similarly, if Imran's father-in-law was a Jew, then what is the problem with that.He himself is a muslim and Jamima also accepted Islam before marrying Imran Khan.If my forefathers do not make me Hindu, then the father-in-law of Imran does not make him a Jew.

 

[cashkash]

one famous peson wrote a book about dog and all the pages were full of ​

baoo baoo baoo (barking) do u wana know the name of the writter ((najam sethi​

)))​

 

[Cheeko]

Few highlights remember to me from that book are:

Pashtun history is very ancient starts from about 5000 years ago. Up to 3200 years, the history is authentic and referenced where as the rest is based on Qiyaas or assumptions

Hazrat Yaqoob (Alaih Salam) had 12 sons, one of them was named as Yahooda. Yahooda branched in to many and one branch name was Pasthuns's ancestors.

Pashtuns believes that their ancestors have never been remained non-Muslim. They obeyed collectively to every Prophet (A.S.) and at the time of Jesus (A.S.) they become Christians.

After the departure of Jesus, Jews started amendments in Bible and hurt Christians too much. At that time this Tribe thought that if they would remain there, Jews would destroyed them completely. So they decided to leave that place and ended in the area called Khurasan (Afghanistan and surrounding areas). And waited there for the time of Muhammad (PBUH).

And when got to know that Muhammad (PBUH) had emerged and was in Madina, they sent a delegation to confirm whether it was the same prophet for whom they were waiting. When they got confirmed, the delegation became Muslim and on their arrival to Afghanistan, the whole tribe become Muslim.



Wikipedia has giving some details based on references. You can consult that as well. Meanwhile I would try to find the name of the book. If I would in Pakistan, it could be much easier for me.

Nothing can be authentic to Quran and Hadeeth but about normal history books, you would have to believe but this believe doesn't disturb you Emaan.

Not even Quran and Hadees books confirm that there was some tribe who remained Muslims but do quote some authentic source. What you said is contradictory, first you said no Pashtun was a non-muslim and then you said that a delegation of Pashtuns went to Medina and they became Muslims. I want to believe your theory but you are giving me no chance. Still I will wait for you to quote some authentic source.

 

[Nice2MU]

Not even Quran and Hadees books confirm that there was some tribe who remained Muslims but do quote some authentic source.

Quran & Hadeeth didn't mention about the Socrates, Plato or Aristotle but they had been the philosopher in the history. Meaning to say that Quran didn't mention about many people, but they were.

First you said no Pashtun was a non-muslim and then you said that a delegation of Pashtuns went to Medina and they became Muslims.

I meant to say "Muslims" those who never been disbelievers i.e. They had obeyed every prophet since Hazrat Yaqoob (A.S). They believe in Hazarat Musa (A.S.) or in Jesus (A.S.) etc.

 

[Cheeko]

Quran & Hadeeth didn't mention about the Socrates, Plato or Aristotle but they had been the philosopher in the history. Meaning to say that Quran didn't mention about many people, but they were.



I meant to say "Muslims" those who never been disbelievers i.e. They had obeyed every prophet since Hazrat Yaqoob (A.S). They believe in Hazarat Musa (A.S.) or in Jesus (A.S.) etc.

Were Socrates, Plato or Aristotle believers too that you are comparing Pashtun believers with them ? Quran and Hadees missed such an important subject that there was a tribe who were still believers at the advent of Islam. You mean to say Allah swt sent the Last Messenger peace be upon him to Arab disbelievers instead of Pashtun believers ? Still I am open for you to quote from any authentic source even apart from Quran and Hadees.

 

[Nice2MU]

Were Socrates, Plato or Aristotle believers too that you are comparing Pashtun believers with them ? Quran and Hadees missed such an important subject that there was a tribe who were still believers at the advent of Islam. You mean to say Allah swt sent the Last Messenger peace be upon him to Arab disbelievers instead of Pashtun believers ? Still I am open for you to quote from any authentic source even apart from Quran and Hadees.

You confusing the issues. There are many important subjects which Quran or Hadeeth didn't mention e.g. we have heart that there were . about 125,000 prophets but did you hear the names of all? Quran only mentioned about 26. Where are the rest of prophets' names?