Another Kaa'ba (Dhul-l-Khulasa) as Per Sahih AL-Bukhari!

Wake up Pak

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Narrated Qais:

Jarir said "Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said to me, "Won't you relieve me from Dhul-Khalasa?" I replied, "Yes, (I will relieve you)." So I proceeded along with one-hundred and fifty cavalry from Ahmas tribe who were skillful in riding horses. I used not to sit firm over horses, so I informed the Prophet (ﷺ) of that, and he stroke my chest with his hand till I saw the marks of his hand over my chest and he said, O Allah! Make him firm and one who guides others and is guided (on the right path).' Since then I have never fallen from a horse. Dhul-l--Khulasa was a house in Yemen belonging to the tribe of Khatham and Bajaila, and in it there were idols which were worshipped, and it was called Al-Ka`ba." Jarir went there, burnt it with fire and dismantled it. When Jarir reached Yemen, there was a man who used to foretell and give good omens by casting arrows of divination. Someone said to him. "The messenger of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) is present here and if he should get hold of you, he would chop off your neck." One day while he was using them (i.e. arrows of divination), Jarir stopped there and said to him, "Break them (i.e. the arrows) and testify that None has the right to be worshipped except Allah, or else I will chop off your neck." So the man broke those arrows and testified that none has the right to be worshipped except Allah. Then Jarir sent a man called Abu Artata from the tribe of Ahmas to the Prophet to convey the good news (of destroying Dhu-l-Khalasa). So when the messenger reached the Prophet, he said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! By Him Who sent you with the Truth, I did not leave it till it was like a scabby camel." Then the Prophet (ﷺ) blessed the horses of Ahmas and their men five times.


حَدَّثَنَا يُوسُفُ بْنُ مُوسَى، أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو أُسَامَةَ، عَنْ إِسْمَاعِيلَ بْنِ أَبِي خَالِدٍ، عَنْ قَيْسٍ، عَنْ جَرِيرٍ، قَالَ قَالَ لِي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏"‏ أَلاَ تُرِيحُنِي مِنْ ذِي الْخَلَصَةِ ‏"‏‏.‏ فَقُلْتُ بَلَى‏.‏ فَانْطَلَقْتُ فِي خَمْسِينَ وَمِائَةِ فَارِسٍ مِنْ أَحْمَسَ وَكَانُوا أَصْحَابَ خَيْلٍ وَكُنْتُ لاَ أَثْبُتُ عَلَى الْخَيْلِ، فَذَكَرْتُ ذَلِكَ لِلنَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَضَرَبَ يَدَهُ عَلَى صَدْرِي حَتَّى رَأَيْتُ أَثَرَ يَدِهِ فِي صَدْرِي وَقَالَ ‏"‏ اللَّهُمَّ ثَبِّتْهُ وَاجْعَلْهُ هَادِيًا مَهْدِيًّا ‏"‏‏.‏ قَالَ فَمَا وَقَعْتُ عَنْ فَرَسٍ بَعْدُ‏.‏ قَالَ وَكَانَ ذُو الْخَلَصَةِ بَيْتًا بِالْيَمَنِ لِخَثْعَمَ وَبَجِيلَةَ، فِيهِ نُصُبٌ تُعْبَدُ، يُقَالُ لَهُ الْكَعْبَةُ‏.‏ قَالَ فَأَتَاهَا فَحَرَّقَهَا بِالنَّارِ وَكَسَرَهَا‏.‏ قَالَ وَلَمَّا قَدِمَ جَرِيرٌ الْيَمَنَ كَانَ بِهَا رَجُلٌ يَسْتَقْسِمُ بِالأَزْلاَمِ فَقِيلَ لَهُ إِنَّ رَسُولَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم هَا هُنَا فَإِنْ قَدَرَ عَلَيْكَ ضَرَبَ عُنُقَكَ‏.‏ قَالَ فَبَيْنَمَا هُوَ يَضْرِبُ بِهَا إِذْ وَقَفَ عَلَيْهِ جَرِيرٌ فَقَالَ لَتَكْسِرَنَّهَا وَلَتَشْهَدَنَّ أَنْ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ أَوْ لأَضْرِبَنَّ عُنُقَكَ‏.‏ قَالَ فَكَسَرَهَا وَشَهِدَ، ثُمَّ بَعَثَ جَرِيرٌ رَجُلاً مِنْ أَحْمَسَ يُكْنَى أَبَا أَرْطَاةَ إِلَى النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم يُبَشِّرُهُ بِذَلِكَ، فَلَمَّا أَتَى النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَالَّذِي بَعَثَكَ بِالْحَقِّ مَا جِئْتُ حَتَّى تَرَكْتُهَا كَأَنَّهَا جَمَلٌ أَجْرَبُ‏.‏ قَالَ فَبَرَّكَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم عَلَى خَيْلِ أَحْمَسَ وَرِجَالِهَا خَمْسَ مَرَّاتٍ‏.‏


Reference: Sahih al-Bukhari 4357
In-book reference: Book 64, Hadith 383
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Vol. 5, Book 59, Hadith 643


 
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Wake up Pak

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What is Hajj? The literal meaning of Hajj is to debate or argue. All the verses related to Hajj in the Quran address mankind as a whole, not just Muslims or believers. This suggests that the Hajj is meant for everyone. Nowhere in the Quran does Allah command people to circumambulate the Kaaba, to kiss the Black Stone (which is not mentioned in the Quran), or to run between the two hills, Safa and Marwah, seven times. The rituals also include traveling from Mina to Arafat, then to Muzdalifah, collecting pebbles to cast at the three pillars in Mina known as Jamarat, and wearing the Ihram garment while exposing one shoulder.
Can someone explain how individuals benefit from performing all these rituals?
 

Sarkash

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
People dont even understand how Saheh- Ahadees are compiled. Even in Bukhari or Muslim, there are references of "weak Ahadees" and under commentary they mention that the chain is not complete or broken. So just because one is in that book does not mean its Authentic.
 

Wake up Pak

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I am unsure about the authenticity of this historical article, but were there additional Kaabas in that region?

The Kaaba of Najran, located near the river Nuhairdān in the city of Najran, was a significant religious building for the Christian community in pre-Islamic Arabia. It was originally a polytheistic Kaʾbatān dedicated to the god Dhu Samawi, and was later converted into a Christian shrine. The Kaaba of Najran was burned down by the Jewish Himyaritic king Dhu Nuwas during his persecution of Najran's Christians.
 

Wake up Pak

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Please do not curse me for posting Sahih Al Bukhari's hadith; the followers of the hadith should be the ones to curse him.
 

saleema

Senator (1k+ posts)
I just gave up on this guy. There is nothing wrong in this hadeeth. Suppose you create your own Kaa'ba in Pakistan then what? What is your point? To prove that your cult is the only right one and anyone who doesn't agree with you to reject the tradition of hadeeth is not right in your opinion. To prove that your cult is right, you want us to believe there is no Baitullah, there is no masjid haram, there is no maqam ibraheem, jannatul baqe3, there is no safa Marwa? Come on, you will die with this wish but 99% Muslims believe that all these places exist and people will perform hajj and 3mrah and Muslims will do that till Yaomul qayamah. The grave of Nabi A. S is not mentioned in Quran so there is no masjid nabavi or it's importance? Why do you post so much controversial stuff?
 

Islamabadiya

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Yes! Where did it come from?

Whatever the answer to this is won’t have any effect on majority Muslims’ beliefs

If the point you trying to make is that Hadiths narrated even by Sahi Bukhari are not 100% correct, I will say many will agree with you but still won’t change their believe in the finality of Prophet Muhammad PBUH
 

Citizen X

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People dont even understand how Saheh- Ahadees are compiled. Even in Bukhari or Muslim, there are references of "weak Ahadees" and under commentary they mention that the chain is not complete or broken. So just because one is in that book does not mean its Authentic.
Once again you have proved you know nothing about your hadith or your own so called hadith sciences, the history of hadith, its complilers or it's narrators

Also then according to you why are they still called Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim which make up the part of the Sahih Sitta if they are dhaif. And in your madhab denying a sahih hadith is kufr and then in turn makes you a kaffir. If they are not sahih then why are they still being printed and included in the Sahih collections. And every few years some aalim or shiekh comes and declares sahih hadith, dhaif and dhaif hadith sahih, and ever sect has its own set of hadith they consider sahih while another sect considers the same hadith as dhaif and vice versa.
 

Citizen X

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Whatever the answer to this is won’t have any effect on majority Muslims’ beliefs
Surah Al-Baqarah (2:170):
"When it is said to them, 'Follow what Allah has revealed,' they say, 'No, we will follow what we found our forefathers doing.' What! Even though their forefathers understood nothing and were not guided?"
 

Citizen X

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I just gave up on this guy. There is nothing wrong in this hadeeth. Suppose you create your own Kaa'ba in Pakistan then what? What is your point? To prove that your cult is the only right one and anyone who doesn't agree with you to reject the tradition of hadeeth is not right in your opinion. To prove that your cult is right, you want us to believe there is no Baitullah, there is no masjid haram, there is no maqam ibraheem, jannatul baqe3, there is no safa Marwa? Come on, you will die with this wish but 99% Muslims believe that all these places exist and people will perform hajj and 3mrah and Muslims will do that till Yaomul qayamah. The grave of Nabi A. S is not mentioned in Quran so there is no masjid nabavi or it's importance? Why do you post so much controversial stuff?
وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمُ ٱتَّبِعُوا۟ مَآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ قَالُوا۟ بَلْ نَتَّبِعُ مَآ أَلْفَيْنَا عَلَيْهِ ءَابَآءَنَا ۗ أَوَلَوْ كَانَ ءَابَآؤُهُمْ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ شَيْـًۭٔا وَلَا يَهْتَدُونَ

وَإِن تُطِعْ أَكْثَرَ مَن فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ يُضِلُّوكَ عَن سَبِيلِ ٱللَّهِ ۚ إِن يَتَّبِعُونَ إِلَّا ٱلظَّنَّ وَإِنْ هُمْ إِلَّا يَخْرُصُونَ

Maybe you prefer an indoor AC Kaaba?

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Wake up Pak

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I just gave up on this guy. There is nothing wrong in this hadeeth. Suppose you create your own Kaa'ba in Pakistan then what? What is your point? To prove that your cult is the only right one and anyone who doesn't agree with you to reject the tradition of hadeeth is not right in your opinion. To prove that your cult is right, you want us to believe there is no Baitullah, there is no masjid haram, there is no maqam ibraheem, jannatul baqe3, there is no safa Marwa? Come on, you will die with this wish but 99% Muslims believe that all these places exist and people will perform hajj and 3mrah and Muslims will do that till Yaomul qayamah. The grave of Nabi A. S is not mentioned in Quran so there is no masjid nabavi or it's importance? Why do you post so much controversial stuff?
Where did this cut come from? There is no such word as Bait Allah in the Quran. Where is Maqam Ibrahim? Are Safa & Marwa some mountains? Please provide your point from the Quran instead of just blindly believing what you were taught.
99% of Muslims believe what thier Mullahs have taught them, they don't bother to think & reflect or to question whether what they were taught makes any sense or not?
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Wake up Pak

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Whatever the answer to this is won’t have any effect on majority Muslims’ beliefs

If the point you trying to make is that Hadiths narrated even by Sahi Bukhari are not 100% correct, I will say many will agree with you but still won’t change their believe in the finality of Prophet Muhammad PBUH
I'm not here to influence Muslims; I'm just sharing my perspective. Who is denying the finality of the Prophet Muhammad?
 

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