An Awesome Column on TTP in today's Daily Dunya

[Hussain1967]

Talibans are our "brothers" as IK or JI says or believe,

now here is agenda of the talks

1) TTP should have access to all our cities and they can bomb whatever area they like, no questions asked.
2) No school shall be allowed, boys or girls, boys should be sent to the madrassas operated and managed by TTP and girls are just machine for s e x.
3) In order to put Pakistan under severe pressure and invite all kind of international sanctions, POLIO or other vaccination schemes/programs must be closed/stopped and teams must be eliminated.
4) No other religion apart from Talibani religion should have permission to live or practice their faith in Pakistan.
5) All games are evil, no international or national games should be played, all viewers and players should be killed.
6) Taliban would have say or any internal or foreign affair issue, others have to follow it.
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These are the basic terms from our "brothers" who are enemy of US, INDIA and Israel and are very much doing everything to destroy Pakistan.

I can summarize your six points in one sentence i.e Convert the current Pakistani state into an Afghan State of 1996-2001.

 

[Hussain1967]

Aap durast kehtay hein, magar ttp ka turjaman jab khud live transmission per ya call kar kay tasleem karay aur dhamkaye tu shak ki gunjaaesh nahee rah jaati. Aagar koi badlay ki baat hay tu phir in ko marna aur jaaiz hay kay abhi hassab 40000 ka baaqi hay...

Badla element is no more there.TTP, under the leadership of Al-Qaeda, has turned the once revenge war of 2007 into a full ideological war and the purpose is to establish an 'Imaarat-e-Islamia Pakistan' on footprints of 1996-2001 of Afghanistan.I being a PTI voter sadly admit that IK is not willing to accept that it is an ideological war despite so many press releases, letters of TTP over the last 5 five years.

I am a conservative sunni but I am not ready to accept TTP's sharia.Those who sympathize with these monsters should go and join them in the battlefield.

 

[Hussain1967]

Jab tak aamnay samnay beth kar dalail ke saath guftugu nahi hoti oss waqat tak koi bhe sahib e aqal banda one sided views ko nahi maany ga. ye columnist sirf one sided guftugu kartay hin aur sikkay ka sirf aik rukh dikhaty hin

Do you know the other side of the coin? OK, you tell me their viewpoint and the justifications of suicide bombing in Pakistan and then I will reply you with arguments? I am a Sunni, so you should have no problem in presenting your (or their) viewpoint to me on this forum. I will reply you both in terms of religion and in terms of wordly logic? Yaad rakhna keh jab tum log Zulm ki har had say guzar jao gay to tumharay apnay maslak mein zulm kay khilaaf awazein uthein gi.

Sirf,yeh kehnay say baat nahin banay gi keh unn ka bhi koi muaqqaf ho ga.

 

[Liberal Fascist]

عوام تو روز مر رہی ہے آپریشن ہو یا نا ہو ۔ اگر مذاکرات ہونے ہوتے تو اب تک ہو چکے ہوتے ۔ وہ ظالم آپ کی '' دُم میں نمدہ فٹ '' کر کے رکھتے ہیں آپ مذاکرات کا ورد کرتے رہو ۔ آپنے عوام مرواتے رہو اور '' مذاکرات کا خیر مقدم کرتے ہیں '' کا نعرہ سن کر امن کے ٹرک کی بتی کے پیچھے لگے رہو بلکہ '' بحر منجمند بنے رہو '' جب تک کے اگلہ خودکش پھٹ کر آپکو حقائق کی دُنیا میں واپس لائے ۔ اور ایک دفعہ پھر مذاکرات کا خیر مقدمی نعرہ مستانہ بلند ہو اور آپ امن کے خیالی محل کی تعمیر میں جھٹ جایئں ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
اور چل سو چل ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔

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عالیجناب، اِن خوشبویات سے فورم کو معطّر رکھا کیجئے۔
اپنے خیالات کی ہریالی سے نگاہوں کا شاداب رکھا کریں۔
اِن تازہ ہواؤں کے جھونکوں کو جاری رکھیں کہ کہ حبس بہت ہے۔

اللہ کرے زورِ قلم اور زیادہ​

 

[احمد]

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عالیجناب، اِن خوشبویات سے فورم کو معطّر رکھا کیجئے۔
اپنے خیالات کی ہریالی سے نگاہوں کا شاداب رکھا کریں۔
اِن تازہ ہواؤں کے جھونکوں کو جاری رکھیں کہ کہ حبس بہت ہے۔

اللہ کرے زورِ قلم اور زیادہ​

شکریہ جناب محترم ، اس ناچیز نے ہمیشہ ان بھٹکی ہوئی روحوں کو صراط مستقیم پر لانے کی کوشش کی ہے ۔۔۔
یہ نادان، رہزنوں کو رہبر سمجھ رہے ہیں ۔
جن کو یہ نجات دہندہ سمجھتے وہی انکو کسی بازار ، کسی چوک ، یا کسی مسجد میں زندگی سے ہی نجات دلا دیتے ہیں ۔۔

 

[w-a-n-t-e-d-]

Serf Muzaakraat He Behtreen Haal Hai...


Fauj Or Hukomat Dollar Kise Aur Tareeqay Say Kama Layyy Agar Rishwat Khori Or Najez Tareeqo Say Mulki Wasaeil Pay Qabzay Say Inki Tondh Nahi
Bharti Tu ....

 

[farhanse]

That's why I requested everyone to read the column carefully, not like a pre-programmed mindset.The columnist has mentioned the name of Sami ul Haq when he wrote the word 'Taliban kay Roohani Baap'.

Magar unhone Muzakrat ke nakami ka koe reason highlight nahi kia ye sirf $$$ ki zuban boli jarahi he inse achi tu Reham Khan he jo bilkul neutral views deti he aur uska background west se tha

 

[Hussain1967]

Magar unhone Muzakrat ke nakami ka koe reason highlight nahi kia ye sirf $$$ ki zuban boli jarahi he inse achi tu Reham Khan he jo bilkul neutral views deti he aur uska background west se tha

Agar Reham Khan west ki ho ke 'neutral' views nahi dey gi to kia uss nay zinda nahin rehna Pakistan mein! Warna ham sab ko pata hai keh TTP kay kia khialaat hain kisi western-minded khatoon keh baaray mein.

 

[farhanse]

Agar Reham Khan west ki ho ke 'neutral' views nahi dey gi to kia uss nay zinda nahin rehna Pakistan mein! Warna ham sab ko pata hai keh TTP kay kia khialaat hain kisi western-minded khatoon keh baaray mein.

jiske paas jawab nahi hota wo personal hojata he...

 

[Hussain1967]

jiske paas jawab nahi hota wo personal hojata he...

Please read again. Where did I go personal in the above post?

 

[Freedomlover]

Do you know the other side of the coin? OK, you tell me their viewpoint and the justifications of suicide bombing in Pakistan and then I will reply you with arguments? I am a Sunni, so you should have no problem in presenting your (or their) viewpoint to me on this forum. I will reply you both in terms of religion and in terms of wordly logic? Yaad rakhna keh jab tum log Zulm ki har had say guzar jao gay to tumharay apnay maslak mein zulm kay khilaaf awazein uthein gi.

Sirf,yeh kehnay say baat nahin banay gi keh unn ka bhi koi muaqqaf ho ga.

Mujhay sirf chand bato ke clear cut jawab chahye. kia kisi musalman ke muqabalay mi ghair muslim(kufar) ke madad karna jaiz hiy?, aur kia jo koi aisa karta hi yani muslims ke khilaf kafiro ke saff mi khara ho kar jo inn ke madad karta hi wo phir bhe musalman rehta hi?, islam ke konsi talimaat ke mutabiq wo musalman hotay hi jo musalman ke khilaf kufar ke sathi ho?, kia aap islam ke ro se ghaddar ke tareef kar saktay hin? islam mi ghaddar ke saza kia hi? agar clear jawab nahi day saktay to fazool mi waqat zaya na karain shukrya

 

[Hussain1967]

Mujhay sirf chand bato ke clear cut jawab chahye. kia kisi musalman ke muqabalay mi ghair muslim(kufar) ke madad karna jaiz hiy?, aur kia jo koi aisa karta hi yani muslims ke khilaf kafiro ke saff mi khara ho kar jo inn ke madad karta hi wo phir bhe musalman rehta hi?, islam ke konsi talimaat ke mutabiq wo musalman hotay hi jo musalman ke khilaf kufar ke sathi ho?, kia aap islam ke ro se ghaddar ke tareef kar saktay hin? islam mi ghaddar ke saza kia hi? agar clear jawab nahi day saktay to fazool mi waqat zaya na karain shukrya

The reply of your questions lies in my following questions.

1.Is the war in Pakistan a revenge war or an ideological war?
2.Was Pakistani awaam responsible for war on terror or did they participate in it? It was sole decision of Mushrraf and few of his core commands, most nobly General Mehmood, General Aziz.All of these are retired now.Do you know what General Mehmood and General Aziz are doing now-a-days? They have joined Talbeeghi jamaat.
3.Show me any Hadith or Quraanic verse which says that a person becomes kaafir when he helps someone against a muslim.Do not make extrapolations as TTP pigs usually do.
4.Did't pakistani state hide Osama for 10 years in Pakistan? He was living adjacent to kakool Academy for many years.These were Americans who took him by force.
5.Isn't Pakistani state hiding Mullah Umar? Isn't Pakistani state helping Afghan Taliban for the last many years.
6.Isn't their any value of borders in Islam? Border is an agreement between two countries and it must be respected.
7.Finally,do you know what is the punishment of those who do armed khurooj against a state. They must be sent to hell as early as possible.
8.Who is going to decide who is ghaddar? Should this right be given to individuals like TTP pigs.
9.Why the groups like Haqqani, Moulvi Nazir etc. have accpeted the Pakistani state compulsions and have not waged war against Pakistan as TTP has done.Do you call them govt stooges?

The answers to your questions lie in the questions that I have raised.Finally, I quote one verse from Quraan.
" Man qatala mominum motaamdan fajaza ohu jahannum, khalideena feeha". There might be many momin whom these suicide bombers have been killing knowingly (motammidan).

And don't become that innocent.This war is not a revenge war.It is an ideological war.

Lastly, if you are an ideological, then create some patience in you as well.The sentences like 'mera time zaaya na karo' will only create hatred among others against the mindset of people like you.Tum Allah say likhwa kay nahin lay kar aaey keh jo tum aur TTP sochtay hain woh ain shariat hai.

 

[Freedomlover]

The reply of your questions lies in my following questions.

1.Is the war in Pakistan a revenge war or an ideological war?
2.Was Pakistani awaam responsible for war on terror or did they participate in it? It was sole decision of Mushrraf and few of his core commands, most nobly General Mehmood, General Aziz.All of these are retired now.Do you know what General Mehmood and General Aziz are doing now-a-days? They have joined Talbeeghi jamaat.
3.Show me any Hadith or Quraanic verse which says that a person becomes kaafir when he helps someone against a muslim.Do not make extrapolations as TTP pigs usually do.
4.Did't pakistani state hide Osama for 10 years in Pakistan? He was living adjacent to kakool Academy for many years.These were Americans who took him by force.
5.Isn't Pakistani state hiding Mullah Umar? Isn't Pakistani state helping Afghan Taliban for the last many years.
6.Isn't their any value of borders in Islam? Border is an agreement between two countries and it must be respected.
7.Finally,do you know what is the punishment of those who do armed khurooj against a state. They must be sent to hell as early as possible.
8.Who is going to decide who is ghaddar? Should this right be given to individuals like TTP pigs.
9.Why the groups like Haqqani, Moulvi Nazir etc. have accpeted the Pakistani state compulsions and have not waged war against Pakistan as TTP has done.Do you call them govt stooges?

The answers to your questions lie in the questions that I have raised.Finally, I quote one verse from Quraan.
" Man qatala mominum motaamdan fajaza ohu jahannum, khalideena feeha". There might be many momin whom these suicide bombers have been killing knowingly (motammidan).

And don't become that innocent.This war is not a revenge war.It is an ideological war.

Lastly, if you are an ideological, then create some patience in you as well.The sentences like 'mera time zaaya na karo' will only create hatred among others against the mindset of people like you.Tum Allah say likhwa kay nahin lay kar aaey keh jo tum aur TTP sochtay hain woh ain shariat hai.

Meray sawalon ka clearcut jawab nahi day saktay phir wahi aain baain shain shoro kar di. i want to reply you with some Quranic verses. you said"3.Show me any Hadith or Quraanic verse which says that a person becomes kaafir when he helps someone against a muslim.Do not make extrapolations as TTP pigs usually do."

now see what Quran tell us " O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?
Qur'an 4:144

O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
Qur'an 5:51

O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people; they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand.
Qur'an 3:118

You said that only musharaf sided with america in war against muslims. this is total lie. previous zardari government and now nawaz sharif government is following the same policies which started by musharaf and slave minded people like you follow your leaders

 

[farhanse]

Meray sawalon ka clearcut jawab nahi day saktay phir wahi aain baain shain shoro kar di. i want to reply you with some Quranic verses. you said"3.Show me any Hadith or Quraanic verse which says that a person becomes kaafir when he helps someone against a muslim.Do not make extrapolations as TTP pigs usually do."

now see what Quran tell us " O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?
Qur'an 4:144

O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
Qur'an 5:51

O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people; they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand.
Qur'an 3:118

You said that only musharaf sided with america in war against muslims. this is total lie. previous zardari government and now nawaz sharif government is following the same policies which started by musharaf and slave minded people like you follow your leaders

iska naam Hussein he ye kabhi aapki baat nahi manega aap samajhgay honge ke kin fasadyon ki baat karraha hun men jo pindi men masoom bachon ko zibah kardete hen aur kehteh hen ke taqreer aisi hoe thi masjid se

 

[Hussain1967]

Meray sawalon ka clearcut jawab nahi day saktay phir wahi aain baain shain shoro kar di. i want to reply you with some Quranic verses. you said"3.Show me any Hadith or Quraanic verse which says that a person becomes kaafir when he helps someone against a muslim.Do not make extrapolations as TTP pigs usually do."

now see what Quran tell us " O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?
Qur'an 4:144

O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
Qur'an 5:51

O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people; they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand.
Qur'an 3:118

You said that only musharaf sided with america in war against muslims. this is total lie. previous zardari government and now nawaz sharif government is following the same policies which started by musharaf and slave minded people like you follow your leaders

I replied very clearly to you but you never bothered to reply me point by point.Yeh bara asaan hai Quraan ki do teen different ayaat to akhata kar ke aik mixture sa banao aur pesh kar do.Mein Quraan ki inn ayaat ka kia karoon.

1.The one who saved a human being saved the whole humanity.
2.The one who killed a human being killed the whole humanity
3.The one who knowingly killed a believer will go to the hell fire and will remain there forever.(TTP pigs are killing believers thru suicide bombing and they are doing it knowing that suicide bombing will definitely kill innocents).

I am not a slave of anyone but Allah (SWT) but you are definitely a slave of takfiri/kharji mindet and follower of Hassan Bin Sabah (Sheikh ul Jibaal) who is the godfather of suicide bombers.Waisay tum khud TTP say jannat ka ticket haasil kion nahin kartay?

Aur Haan mein La-a-nat bheijta hoon Amrica par bhi aur TTP soors par bhi.

 

[Freedomlover]

I replied very clearly to you but you never bothered to reply me point by point.Yeh bara asaan hai Quraan ki do teen different ayaat to akhata kar ke aik mixture sa banao aur pesh kar do.Mein Quraan ki inn ayaat ka kia karoon.

1.The one who saved a human being saved the whole humanity.
2.The one who killed a human being killed the whole humanity
3.The one who knowingly killed a believer will go to the hell fire and will remain there forever.(TTP pigs are killing believers thru suicide bombing and they are doing it knowing that suicide bombing will definitely kill innocents).

I am not a slave of anyone but Allah (SWT) but you are definitely a slave of takfiri/kharji mindet and follower of Hassan Bin Sabah (Sheikh ul Jibaal) who is the godfather of suicide bombers.Waisay tum khud TTP say jannat ka ticket haasil kion nahin kartay?

Aur Haan mein La-a-nat bheijta hoon Amrica par bhi aur TTP soors par bhi.

Lagta hi ke tum par kisi bhe daleel ka koi asar nahi hota. mi ne qurani ayat yahan par pesh kar de, laikin afsoos ke tum jesay log Quran ke wazih ahkaamat ke bhe tawelain garhnay shoru kar datay ho.
Quran calls such people, as in Surah Baqarah Ch. 2, Verse 18(Arabic) The deaf, the dumb, the blind, they will not return to the true path.

 

[Hussain1967]

Lagta hi ke tum par kisi bhe daleel ka koi asar nahi hota. mi ne qurani ayat yahan par pesh kar de, laikin afsoos ke tum jesay log Quran ke wazih ahkaamat ke bhe tawelain garhnay shoru kar datay ho.
Qur’an calls such people, as in Surah Baqarah Ch. 2, Verse 18…(Arabic)… ‘The deaf, the dumb, the blind, they will not return to the true path.’

Aur mein nay bhi Quraan ki ayaat hi pesh ki thein. You are the deaf,the dumb, and the blind supporter of Takfiri killers.