Amir Mir, the unusual brother of Hamid Mir, and his past writings

rakeem

Senator (1k+ posts)
I always liked to study international newspapers, and used to go to their websites to view them. Some of them were indian websites like the left leaning outlook india, which had a liberal opinion but had the same opinion regarding Pakistan like other Indian newspapers. To highlight the negative part of the Pakistan and to use that to show how better India is from Pakistan in that specific area.

I first got to know about Amir Mir and his opinion through this article, it was just after the october earthquake in 2005, and Pakistan for a change was getting positive coverage for the public response and there was a sense of sheer patriotism amongst Pakistanis as well as journalists. This animal wrote something unusual it was'nt about criticism of Pak authorities response but the involvement of aid agencies, namely Al-Akhtar trust, Al-RAshid trust, which later on were targeted in the aftermath of 26/11 Mumbai attacks, he was actually trying to shape opinions of Indians against Pakistani organizations, view here:

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?229143

When I discovered this ****** to be the brother of Hamid Mir. I realized that geo is supporting munafiqs who pose to be something else and have the rest of the family doing anti-religion, anti-state activities, apart from Hamid Mir like Aamir Liaquat brother, Imran Liaquat H. who has founded a new religion close to shiism based in Sehwan Sharif.

Amir Mir has been writing for the Indian outlook since 1990s, his initial writings and then post 2001, there is difference, his writings post-2001 were more targeting Islam, the religious organizations in Pakistan, and Pakistan's most important institutions like ISI and Pak military, one can browse his past writings here:

https://www.google.com.pk/search?q=...mir+earthquake&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official


I thought this guy is an islamophobe and has some hatred against Pakistani military, but after studying his writings, one would realize he is a paid agent working on agendas of foreign countries' and their media houses. Having Hamid Mir as a brother also was used as a cover as his brother's friendly coverage of the islamic groups was actually ploy to hide this family's nefarious activities. He has mostly written for outlook and other foreign newspapers justifying US and Indian govt. responses against Pakistan.

This dumbo even had an opinion regarding religiosity in the Pakistani cricket team, how the tableeghi jamat infiltrated the Pakistani team which he got published in the Australian newspaper, labelled Pakistan trade pizzazz for piety:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...izzazz-for-piety/story-e6frg7rx-1111113213412

After writing such venom against Pakistan, Islam, ISI, military, Nuclear program. This guy being made a deputy editor for The News INternational, is incredibly pathetic and dangerous. It casts a bad light on Shakil ur REhman cos he would've known his opinion as as well Amir Mir's anti-Pakistan works that are published outside Pakistan to justify Pakistan as a terrorist country.

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samkhan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
It casts a bad light on Shakil ur REhman cos he would've known his opinion

آپ کی یہ والی لائن بڑی مزاحیہ ہے. یہ میر شکیل ہنومان ہی اصلی اور سب سے بڑا انڈین ایجنٹ ہے باقی تو سب اسکے چھوٹے موٹے کارندے ہیں
 

PkRevolution

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Their father was a traitor and the sons have worked only to harm Pakistan, Pakistan Army, Its religious parties, islam and society.

Thank you very much for such a good thread and provided links.

It was deliberately that they targetted ISI. Somebody said due to emotions he said like that but after reading your post no question that Jang group used them for a special task, means defame Pakistan Army and ISI.
 
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BrotherKantu

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Their father was a traitor and the sons have worked only to harm Pakistan, Pakistan Army, Its religious parties, islam and society.

Thank you very much for such a good thread and provided links.

It was deliberately that they targetted ISI. Somebody said due to emotions he said like that but after reading your post no question that Jang group used them for a special task, means defame Pakistan Army and ISI.

میں نے سنا ہے کہ حامد میر کا باپ بھی نمک حرام تھا اب یہ نمک حرام ہے اور پھر اس کی اولاد بھی نمک حرام ہو گی اس میں حامد میر کا کوئی قصور نہیں اس کا تخم ہی خراب ہے جس کو انگریزی میں ڈی این اے کہتے ہیں قوموں کی کوشش یہ ہونی چاہیے کے ایسے بد کے تخم کو اوپر نہ آنے دیں بعد میں سواۓ کھپ رولے کے کچھ نہیں ہوتا

And Now his brother, So this shows DNA thing is true.
 

zhohaq

Minister (2k+ posts)
Amir Mir also writes regularly( Bi weekly) for The News. Mostly Counter Terrorism stuff.

Over all his writing at least on Tribal area operations have been quite pro Army.

And that is his reputation among journalist. Close to Army who are his main sources.
 

Azizi

Banned
Oh he looks so handsome beautiful and smart son of pig.

اتنا خوبصرت کالے سور کی شکل والا سور کا بچہ
 

mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Amir Mir also writes regularly( Bi weekly) for The News. Mostly Counter Terrorism stuff.

Over all his writing at least on Tribal area operations have been quite pro Army.

And that is his reputation among journalist. Close to Army who are his main sources.

You further confused an already confusing issue. So he is pro army but also anti army :-)

He is left leaning and his brother is a rightist but according to the creator of the thread the whole family is putting up a charade.
 
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zhohaq

Minister (2k+ posts)
You further confused an already confusing issue. So he is pro army but also anti army :-)

He is left leaning and his brother is a rightist but according to the creator of the thread the whole family is putting up a charade.

mrk123 Saahib jst giving my impression as I have read his work in The News pretty regularly,

He is on CT by far the best in the business.

Out Look (India) is indeed Left leaning, but its also best English language weeklly in the sub continent.
(In my view better the Frontline, The Caravan). Out Look also steers clear from the usual Pakistan bashing.

Now Aamir Mir has written for Outlook since 1995. His work seems top notch to me.

(Much better then many other writers who write for Indian outlets: Najam Sethi , his wife, Munize Jehanghir etc)

Ofcourse topics covered wld relate to India's concerns in Pakistan. I.e Let ,JuD,Kashmir,Militancy etc

Its a matter of opinion I guess.
 
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mrk123

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
mrk123 Saahib jst giving my impression as I have read his work in The News pretty regularly,

He is on CT by far the best in the business.

Out Look (India) is indeed Left leaning, but its also best English language weeklly in the sub continent.
(In my view better the Frontline, The Caravan). Out Look also steers clear from the usual Pakistan bashing.

Now Aamir Mir has written for Outlook since 1995. His work seems top notch to me.

(Much better then many other writers who write for Indian outlets: Najam Sethi , his wife, Munize Jehanghir etc)

Its a matter of opinion I guess.

Please don't take me wrong. I was being sarcastic and my comment was not really directed at you but just pointing out the irony and our dilemma.

I respect your opinion and in fact love to read your posts as you base yous observations and conclusions after extensive reading and research. Even though I don't agree with you all the time :-) I learn a thing or two from your posts.

Whats your take on this whole HM episode?

On a slightly related issue. During the course of discussions and arguments its thrown out that 'what do you know what ISI has done to protect us and if it was not for them the consequences would have been terrible and that they have thwarted so many external desgins.'

Through your research and readings have you come across any of those achievements? I know about some of the stories that Maj. Aamir mentions but other than that I am not so sure that I know of any episodes even in the years past.
 
most of the pakistanis are born with their minds tuned for the constant state of war . for them who disagrees with i.s.i. (self proclaimed best agency of best army in the world) he is branded traitor and agent of whole world. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

zhohaq

Minister (2k+ posts)
Please don't take me wrong. I was being sarcastic and my comment was not really directed at you but just pointing out the irony and our dilemma.

I respect your opinion and in fact love to read your posts as you base yous observations and conclusions after extensive reading and research. Even though I don't agree with you all the time :-) I learn a thing or two from your posts.

Whats your take on this whole HM episode?

On a slightly related issue. During the course of discussions and arguments its thrown out that 'what do you know what ISI has done to protect us and if it was not for them the consequences would have been terrible and that they have thwarted so many external desgins.'

Through your research and readings have you come across any of those achievements? I know about some of the stories that Maj. Aamir mentions but other than that I am not so sure that I know of any episodes even in the years past.


You are too kind mrk123 saahib.

On HM episode. I think HM had the right just like Saleem Shehzad to nominate the party he felt threatened from.

I also support Amir Mir statment to Geo. In the context of his brother who was severely injured it was within acceptable limits.

Now on the issue of whether ISI actual ordered the hit.

I think you cant be certain. HM certainly is hated with a vengeance in agency circles.
Just like Saleem Case only way we will get a hint is if the investigation does not go forward at all.

Sindh govt after a few days appointed a JIT (Which include ISI lol) to investigate. Which was unusual at this stage. Maybe agency efforts to take control of investigation early on. Alot of media messaging (from Pro Est journos)is also heavily hinting that Jaang group staged the whole thing.

So I am suspicious about ISI but not convinced.
The other suspects TTP or MQM dont seem motivated enough right now to order a hit on HM.
But it certainly possible.

Now the GEO and Establishment war. That is really serious.

As I have written else where earlier that frankly this moustachioed COAS seems more of the Zia/Mush variety.
Alot of public posturing, messaging. He also is escalating the situation at every oppurtunity.

I think this Geo situation is part of the Est and govt cold war.

If they extract their pound of flesh by getting Geo shut then our Establishment will be back firmly in the driver seat.

Now on ISI successes.

FAS has a great resource to understand basics about the agency. Basic organization, divisions etc.
https://www.fas.org/irp/world/pakistan/isi/index.html


On Successes and Exploits the book to read is "Profiles in Intelligence by Brigadier Syed A. T. Tirmazi"

A few nuggets (On ISI prosecuting Operation Cyclone in Afghanistan) here an their in Gen Akhter Abdurehman hagiography Silent soldier by Mohammad Yusuf.

On recent WoT "successes" mostly rounding up and selling Afghan Arabs ,AQ types Drone waretc "Way of the Knife" by Mark Mazzeti

Overall I think its performance has been mixed.


 

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