gazoomartian
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
They havent take this action because they believ in Quran or its believer. They only did it because they see their soldiers killed in Afghan and other places
American Administration Put a ban on Quran Burnig
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Muhammad Ikhlaq Siddiqui
Minister (2k+ posts)
OF COURSE .. in their best interests like always !!!!!!!!!!!! but it is good whatsoever!!!!!!!!!!!!
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khair Jazakallah
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We should not be so naive to think that they are doing (stopping) this for love of Quran and love of Muslims, but they are trying yo protect their own people.
In doing so they will be helping Muslims in a way.
Humble Pakistani
Councller (250+ posts)
The United States constitution guarantees freedom of expression and speech. Jerry Jones (the bigot, who is no different than any extremist) is taking advantage of the situation. The city of Gainesville has denied him permit for a bonfire. So he cannot just light a fire and start throwing Quran in it. If he does that he will be arrested as he breaks the law. It is not Pakistan where people get arrested just for sending SMSs with Zardari jokes. So he just cannot be arrested for just showing intent. That is his right... guaranteed by the constitution of the United States. The only way he can be attested is if they somehow prove that it is (burning of Quran) detrimental to National Security ( I think a case can be made about it). And that will enable security agencies to pick him up. This guy is a lunatic who only has 50 followers in his church (yes, about fifty members). He is getting worldwide attention for this otherwise no one would have known him. I can guarantee you that he has never read the Quran... So he does not know what it teaches. And that is ignorance!
Things are not as black and white as we see... There are laws that allows everyone freedom to be who they are and what they do in this country as long as they follow the law of the land. The reality is that he is not breaking any law. The Freedom of Religion in this country has allowed Muslims to build Islamic Centers, Masajids, and Islamic School everywhere in the Union. We see them popping up left right and center. It is the same right that allows Muslims to build a Islamic Center in Manhattan, NY that many are opposing.
Things are not as black and white as we see... There are laws that allows everyone freedom to be who they are and what they do in this country as long as they follow the law of the land. The reality is that he is not breaking any law. The Freedom of Religion in this country has allowed Muslims to build Islamic Centers, Masajids, and Islamic School everywhere in the Union. We see them popping up left right and center. It is the same right that allows Muslims to build a Islamic Center in Manhattan, NY that many are opposing.
Night_Hawk
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Quran burning reaction pours in from around the world
[Updated 11:32 a.m.] Increasingly earnest reaction poured in from around the world Thursday to a Florida church's plans to burn copies of the Quran, the Muslim holy book, on Saturday. The Rev. Terry Jones, the head of a small church in Gainesville, said he will go ahead with plans to burn Qurans on the anniversary of the September 11, 2001 attacks.
The statements in reaction received so far are as follows:
Sajjad Karim, a Muslim and British member of the European Parliament, told the chamber Thursday that the Quran burning "is the act of one man and his followers alone. His actions should not be identified with the West or Christianity. Muslims globally must know that, through this Quran burning, this man will achieve nothing. He has been isolated in his country and his religion. It is only through a reaction that any perverse sense of achievement can be earned."
U.S. Sen. John McCain, a Republican from Arizona, urged Jones against the burning in a posting on his Twitter page Thursday. "Pastor Jones' threats to burn the Quran will put American service men/women in danger for their sake please don't do it!"
Dalil Boubakeur, rector of the Paris Grand Mosque and France's most important spokesman for the Muslim community, urged Muslims to respond "wisely" to the burning and "not to fall into the trap of provocation."
Bernard Valero, spokesman for France's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, said, "This incitement to hatred is unacceptable and can only reinforce all forms of extremism. It is also an insult to the memory of the victims of September 11 and also to all the other victims of terrorist acts motivated by intolerance and the abuse of religion."
The U.S. Embassy in London said Washington is "deeply concerned about all deliberate attempts to offend members of any religious or ethnic group" and condemned such acts as "unrepresentative of American values." While the embassy said it believes firmly in freedom of religion and freedom of expression, "we reaffirm our position that the deliberate destruction of any holy book is an abhorrent act." Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki says the burning could be used by extremists to carry out more violence. He spoke after meeting with the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. Lloyd Austin, and U.S. Ambassador James Jeffrey. "If it does take place, it will inflict the most severe damage to inter-faith relations and human and cultural dialogue and will be used as a pretext by extremists for more killings and retaliatory killing," al-Maliki said.
Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari has expressed grave concern over the threats to burn copies of the Quran. According to spokesman Farhatullah Babar, Zardari said anyone who even thought of such a despicable act must be suffering from a diseased mind and a sickly soul. He said it will inflame sentiments among Muslims throughout the world and cause irreparable damage to interfaith harmony and world peace. Zardari called for doing all it takes to stop such a "senseless and outrageous act."
Pakistani Interior Minister Rehman Malik called on Interpol, the international police organization, to stop the church from carrying out the burning, which he called a "crime against humanity." Malik said the burning would be an international crime because it will affect "international peace and harmony."
Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono wrote a letter to President Barack Obama urging him to stop the Quran burning, which he called a "hideous act." A presidential spokesman said Indonesia is concerned the burning will incite hardline Muslims in Indonesia and around the world.
A hardline Indonesian Muslim group, the Islamic Defenders Front, told CNN it will protest the planned burning and will issue a death sentence on Rev. Terry Jones if he carries out his plan. "This is not a problem between Muslims and Christians but rather between Terry Jones and mankind," said Sabri Lubis, a secretary general with the group.
The Vatican implored the church Wednesday not to burn the Quran, saying it would be an "outrageous and grave gesture."
The president of the United Nations General Assembly, Ali Abdussalam Treki, also expressed concern Wednesday, saying the burning will "lead to uncontrollable reactions" and spark tension worldwide.
The top U.S. military commander in Afghanistan, Gen. David Petraeus, warned earlier this week that the plan "could cause significant problems" for American troops overseas.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a Muslim civil liberties and advocacy group, plans to hold a news conference in Washington on Thursday to address the issue. The group's "Learn, Don't Burn" initiative includes the distribution of of 200,000 Qurans and other activities planned for Friday and Saturday, the planned date of the burning.
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has defended the right of the church's pastor, Terry Jones, to go ahead with the plan, even though he condemns the idea as "distasteful." Bloomberg said this week, "The First Amendment protects everybody, and you can't say that we are going to apply the First Amendment to only those cases where we are in agreement," Bloomberg said, citing the section of the Constitution that promises freedom of speech.
The Military Religious Freedom Foundation, which is dedicated to protecting U.S. troops from religious intolerance, has promised to buy one new Quran and donate it to the Afghan National Army for each one burned in Florida.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the Quran burning would be a "disrespectful, disgraceful act."
Former Republican vice presidential candidate and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin urged Jones on Wednesday to halt his plans, saying the burning "will feed the fire of caustic rhetoric and appear as nothing more than mean-spirited religious intolerance. Don't feed that fire."
The U.S. Embassy in Pakistan condemned it as "disrespectful, intolerant and divisive," in a statement on Wednesday. "We are deeply concerned about all deliberate attempts to offend members of any religious or ethnic group," said Stephen Engelken, the second-ranking diplomat at the embassy.
The U.S. Embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan, on Tuesday issued a statement saying the U.S. government "in no way condones such acts of disrespect against the religion of Islam, and is deeply concerned about deliberate attempts to offend members of religious or ethnic groups." It said it condemned the "offensive initiative" by the Florida church.
The U.S. ambassador to Iraq, James Jeffrey, issued a joint statement with Lloyd Austin, the commanding general of U.S. forces in Iraq, to condemn the act.
Lebanese President Michel Suleiman denounced the Quran burning as "contrary to the teachings of tolerant divine religions and totally incompatible with the logic of dialogue among civilizations, religions and cultures." He noted that a United Nations conference on religious tolerance two years ago called on people "to renounce hatred and intolerance and terrorism," and "to reflect on the Christian teachings and concepts of humanity that emphasizes the love and respect for the other."
Muhammad Ismail, a spokesman for the hardline Indonesian Muslim group Hizb ut-Tahrir, said earlier this week, "The burning is not only an insult to the holy Quran, but an insult to Islam and Muslims around the world."
[Updated 11:32 a.m.] Increasingly earnest reaction poured in from around the world Thursday to a Florida church's plans to burn copies of the Quran, the Muslim holy book, on Saturday. The Rev. Terry Jones, the head of a small church in Gainesville, said he will go ahead with plans to burn Qurans on the anniversary of the September 11, 2001 attacks.
The statements in reaction received so far are as follows:
Sajjad Karim, a Muslim and British member of the European Parliament, told the chamber Thursday that the Quran burning "is the act of one man and his followers alone. His actions should not be identified with the West or Christianity. Muslims globally must know that, through this Quran burning, this man will achieve nothing. He has been isolated in his country and his religion. It is only through a reaction that any perverse sense of achievement can be earned."
U.S. Sen. John McCain, a Republican from Arizona, urged Jones against the burning in a posting on his Twitter page Thursday. "Pastor Jones' threats to burn the Quran will put American service men/women in danger for their sake please don't do it!"
Dalil Boubakeur, rector of the Paris Grand Mosque and France's most important spokesman for the Muslim community, urged Muslims to respond "wisely" to the burning and "not to fall into the trap of provocation."
Bernard Valero, spokesman for France's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, said, "This incitement to hatred is unacceptable and can only reinforce all forms of extremism. It is also an insult to the memory of the victims of September 11 and also to all the other victims of terrorist acts motivated by intolerance and the abuse of religion."
The U.S. Embassy in London said Washington is "deeply concerned about all deliberate attempts to offend members of any religious or ethnic group" and condemned such acts as "unrepresentative of American values." While the embassy said it believes firmly in freedom of religion and freedom of expression, "we reaffirm our position that the deliberate destruction of any holy book is an abhorrent act." Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki says the burning could be used by extremists to carry out more violence. He spoke after meeting with the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. Lloyd Austin, and U.S. Ambassador James Jeffrey. "If it does take place, it will inflict the most severe damage to inter-faith relations and human and cultural dialogue and will be used as a pretext by extremists for more killings and retaliatory killing," al-Maliki said.
Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari has expressed grave concern over the threats to burn copies of the Quran. According to spokesman Farhatullah Babar, Zardari said anyone who even thought of such a despicable act must be suffering from a diseased mind and a sickly soul. He said it will inflame sentiments among Muslims throughout the world and cause irreparable damage to interfaith harmony and world peace. Zardari called for doing all it takes to stop such a "senseless and outrageous act."
Pakistani Interior Minister Rehman Malik called on Interpol, the international police organization, to stop the church from carrying out the burning, which he called a "crime against humanity." Malik said the burning would be an international crime because it will affect "international peace and harmony."
Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono wrote a letter to President Barack Obama urging him to stop the Quran burning, which he called a "hideous act." A presidential spokesman said Indonesia is concerned the burning will incite hardline Muslims in Indonesia and around the world.
A hardline Indonesian Muslim group, the Islamic Defenders Front, told CNN it will protest the planned burning and will issue a death sentence on Rev. Terry Jones if he carries out his plan. "This is not a problem between Muslims and Christians but rather between Terry Jones and mankind," said Sabri Lubis, a secretary general with the group.
The Vatican implored the church Wednesday not to burn the Quran, saying it would be an "outrageous and grave gesture."
The president of the United Nations General Assembly, Ali Abdussalam Treki, also expressed concern Wednesday, saying the burning will "lead to uncontrollable reactions" and spark tension worldwide.
The top U.S. military commander in Afghanistan, Gen. David Petraeus, warned earlier this week that the plan "could cause significant problems" for American troops overseas.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a Muslim civil liberties and advocacy group, plans to hold a news conference in Washington on Thursday to address the issue. The group's "Learn, Don't Burn" initiative includes the distribution of of 200,000 Qurans and other activities planned for Friday and Saturday, the planned date of the burning.
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has defended the right of the church's pastor, Terry Jones, to go ahead with the plan, even though he condemns the idea as "distasteful." Bloomberg said this week, "The First Amendment protects everybody, and you can't say that we are going to apply the First Amendment to only those cases where we are in agreement," Bloomberg said, citing the section of the Constitution that promises freedom of speech.
The Military Religious Freedom Foundation, which is dedicated to protecting U.S. troops from religious intolerance, has promised to buy one new Quran and donate it to the Afghan National Army for each one burned in Florida.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the Quran burning would be a "disrespectful, disgraceful act."
Former Republican vice presidential candidate and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin urged Jones on Wednesday to halt his plans, saying the burning "will feed the fire of caustic rhetoric and appear as nothing more than mean-spirited religious intolerance. Don't feed that fire."
The U.S. Embassy in Pakistan condemned it as "disrespectful, intolerant and divisive," in a statement on Wednesday. "We are deeply concerned about all deliberate attempts to offend members of any religious or ethnic group," said Stephen Engelken, the second-ranking diplomat at the embassy.
The U.S. Embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan, on Tuesday issued a statement saying the U.S. government "in no way condones such acts of disrespect against the religion of Islam, and is deeply concerned about deliberate attempts to offend members of religious or ethnic groups." It said it condemned the "offensive initiative" by the Florida church.
The U.S. ambassador to Iraq, James Jeffrey, issued a joint statement with Lloyd Austin, the commanding general of U.S. forces in Iraq, to condemn the act.
Lebanese President Michel Suleiman denounced the Quran burning as "contrary to the teachings of tolerant divine religions and totally incompatible with the logic of dialogue among civilizations, religions and cultures." He noted that a United Nations conference on religious tolerance two years ago called on people "to renounce hatred and intolerance and terrorism," and "to reflect on the Christian teachings and concepts of humanity that emphasizes the love and respect for the other."
Muhammad Ismail, a spokesman for the hardline Indonesian Muslim group Hizb ut-Tahrir, said earlier this week, "The burning is not only an insult to the holy Quran, but an insult to Islam and Muslims around the world."
anwarulhaq
Citizen
The Holy Quran: STOP Burn the Quran Day
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Verry Nice JazakAllah
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Agreed, what I could gather from various statements against it. May be that they are doing this for love of Muslims, they are looking after their own interest.
Pastor Terry Jones arrested for child pornography. Shameless man doing shameless acts.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/gainesville-fl/TFKP4EG8R3D46JVEM/p2
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/gainesville-fl/TFKP4EG8R3D46JVEM/p2
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Vatican: Quran burning 'outrageous'
Vatican: Quran burning 'outrageous'
Burning the Quran would an "outrageous and grave gesture," the Vatican said Wednesday, joining a chorus of voices pleading with a small Florida church not to burn Islam's holy book on the anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attacks.
The Vatican body responsible for dialogue with other religions said expressed "great concern" about the plan by Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Florida.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said it would be a "disrespectful, disgraceful act." She was speaking Tuesday night at a State Department dinner in honor of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.
Her statement came a day after the top U.S. military commander in Afghanistan, Gen. David Petraeus, warned that the plan "could cause significant problems" for American troops overseas.
But the pastor of the Florida church, Terry Jones, has rebuffed pleas to call off the event, saying radical Islamists are the target of his message.
Vatican: Quran burning 'outrageous'
Burning the Quran would an "outrageous and grave gesture," the Vatican said Wednesday, joining a chorus of voices pleading with a small Florida church not to burn Islam's holy book on the anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attacks.
The Vatican body responsible for dialogue with other religions said expressed "great concern" about the plan by Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Florida.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said it would be a "disrespectful, disgraceful act." She was speaking Tuesday night at a State Department dinner in honor of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.
Her statement came a day after the top U.S. military commander in Afghanistan, Gen. David Petraeus, warned that the plan "could cause significant problems" for American troops overseas.
But the pastor of the Florida church, Terry Jones, has rebuffed pleas to call off the event, saying radical Islamists are the target of his message.
YAHYA87
Senator (1k+ posts)
These days the Islamophobia is on the rise in USA since the announcement of Masjid and islamic Center near Ground Zero....As far as I know USA society then USA society are divided in two parts North States and South States...In North States we see mostly Liberal mindset prevailing and also these States are doing well in USA while South States are very CONSERVATIVE States and most racist Rednecks use to live in South States of USA...As Florida is in South then it is quite Natural that they have more tendency of being Islamophobic in USA while in North things are little different as they are more tolerant compare to North....In North we have Places like New York, Chicago, Washington, Michigan and also Detroit(Most USA Muslims live there) and in South we have Texas(Most Racist part of USA), Florida, Carolina and most especially California they are considered more Racist in USA...
The situation has started to take new Turn this time in USA this time their arent just Islamophobia involved now REPUBLICANS are cashing the Racism by promoting it to get enough support in next elections while since we know about Israel Palestine Negotiations Israeli lobby is also mobilized in promoting that in USA as well and the Nexus of Rednecks and Israelis have develop against Muslims in USA and another thing which has Sparked some controversy is Faisal Shezad case which has develop anti Muslim feeling among them as well so now it is turning very DANGEROUS now for Muslims in USA and Muslims need MASS Mobilization to the extent of MILLION MAN MARCH in USA to counter this threat...
The situation has started to take new Turn this time in USA this time their arent just Islamophobia involved now REPUBLICANS are cashing the Racism by promoting it to get enough support in next elections while since we know about Israel Palestine Negotiations Israeli lobby is also mobilized in promoting that in USA as well and the Nexus of Rednecks and Israelis have develop against Muslims in USA and another thing which has Sparked some controversy is Faisal Shezad case which has develop anti Muslim feeling among them as well so now it is turning very DANGEROUS now for Muslims in USA and Muslims need MASS Mobilization to the extent of MILLION MAN MARCH in USA to counter this threat...
PAINDO
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if I have engugh brain then why should I ask such a stuped person as you
A.Ali.T
Minister (2k+ posts)
All this pastor is going to burn is just few papers. He cannot even touch the Quran.
My question to everyone on this board is, What is Qur'aan? If you write the entire Qur'aanic verses on on few hundred pages, then Do those pages become Qur'aan? If you burn a CD with entire Quranic text, then does that CD become Qur'aan? or If I memorize the entire Qur'aan then does my brain become Qur'aan? My question still remains, What is Qur'aan?
(56:77,78,79)
إِنَّهُ ۥ لَقُرۡءَانٌ۬ كَرِيمٌ۬
That (this) is indeed a noble Qur'an
فِى كِتَـٰبٍ۬ مَّكۡنُونٍ۬
In a Book kept hidden
لَّا يَمَسُّهُ ۥۤ إِلَّا ٱلۡمُطَهَّرُونَ
Which none toucheth save the purified,
The Qur’aan is the Word of Allah (SWT), the Lord of Lords, the Lord of the Worlds, which Allah revealed to His Messenger Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), to bring mankind forth from darkness into light: I don't think anyone has the power to burn the Word od Allah (SWT). Just remember what happened to Abraha (Surah Fil)
imemyself89
MPA (400+ posts)
Very good move. American soldiers would have been facing the burnt in Iraq and Afghanistan. Wise move!
