All Qadiyanis should pray for Altaf Hussain!

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takjhank

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Thik keh rahay ho sach bolo jeeeeeeeeeee......

or jahan tak. abbasiali bhai ki point ka taaluq hay....... k ummat akhbaar jhotta hay.....

i have an example.....

kuch din pehlay main nay isi site par ek report parthi thi.. jo ummat akhbar may publish hui thi.... regarding.......Dr. Aafia Siddiqui.. I hope is site par regular anay walay bohat say logo nay wo report parhi ho gi....

us report k mutaabiq.. aafia siddiqui ka husband "Dr." ye daawaa kar raha tha k aafia siddiqui ka saara drama jhoota hay.. or wo americans k pass jail may nahi hay balkay..... karachi may hi apnay ghar may apnay bacho k sath reh rahi hay......

lekin us k baad...... aafiaa siddiqi ki 2-3 times hearing ho chuki hay........ or yousuf raza gilani nay b kuch interest lia tha is case may.. dr. aafia ko churnay k liye..

and after that report, esi bohat c news aai thin jin say it is prooved that dr. aafia is behind the bars in usa jail not in karachi / pakistan .

so... us report k baray may aap kia kehtay hain????? muttahidaa and keamari12 jeeee???????

TJ
 

Muttahaida

Councller (250+ posts)
such bolo said:
Ab Qadyani kiyo dua nahi keriengey AH k liye... Altaf Husein k bayan se jo MQM lovers mien change aaya hai os ka aik muzahira aap k samney hai.

Muttahida said:
y we muslims always implement something forcefully let qadyani lives in pakistan peacefully and treat them with respect and equality i think dat wuts our religion said look at our rasool who spread islam by husn-e-salook we muslims in larger number in pakistan we can defeat qadyanis by dialogues instead putting restrictions on them......

May I ask why did Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) waged jihad against Muslima Kazzaba a fake prophet??? why did not he just preache him instead killed him and his followers too... Please read the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) biography before protecting qadyanis and AH.

Inshaallah... jub aap k dil mien Allah k Nabi, Imam ul Ambiya, Ahmedul Mujtaba, Quaid e Azam, Imam e Azam (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) ki muhabbet Altaf Husein aur MQM ki muhabbet se ziyada hogi os wakt aap ko Qadyaniyo ki asliyet samajh mien aajaigee......os wakt aap ko AH k bayan ka maqsad bhi pata chalega.

Insaani huqooq aur Islami huqooq for murtad and kafir aik alag chapter hai. Filhaal Qadyani minorities k rights full enjoy ker rahey hien balkey hazaaron aur laakho paksitaniyo se behter zindagi guzaaar rahey hien... insey hamdardi ker k khowamakhowa inhien inkey mutaayen huqooq se bhi ziyada huqooq dene wali baat hojaigee... Jo koi musalaman tasleem nahi kerega... chahey MQM aur Altaf Husein kitna hee chah lien.


YAR hamara mazhab islam kisi kai bap ki jageer nahi jo hum wazahatey detey phirey sarey mazhab ka bera tou tum jaisay bhutan khoro nai utha rekha hai mai aik accha musalman nahi lakin koshish zaroor kerta ho jo hazoor ki talimat sai hamay sabaq milta hai wo ye hai kai hukmarani musalmano ki honi chaye lakin waha rehnai ka ha har kisi mazhab kai mannay walo ko rehna ka haqhona chaye or ye bhi kai hazoor jab jehad per jatey tha tou sahba ikram ko khas hukam hota tha kai kisi nehattay per talwar nahi uthani kisi bhokay piasay per talwar nahi uthani hamara mazhab mai tou aman he aman hai agar ab wo qadyani hai tou kia un ko zinda rehna ka haq nahi zara socho agar hum qadyanio kai mulk mai aik minority hotey tou kia kertey........??????plzzz watch dis video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk28VTzE ... dded#t=269
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk28VTzEjjE&eurl=http://www.facebook.com/home.php%3F&feature=player_embedded#t=269[/video]
 
Jamat Islami and Ummat are destroing Pakistan enternally. Before partation they were against Pakistan and now they are in faver of Taliban which are fighting against Pakistan. They still call SHAHEED to Baitullah Masood and other taliban but real shaheed are Pakistani security forces who are fighting for Pakistan. If Ahmedi pray for Altaf Bhai what is wronge because Ahmedi and Altaf bhai want to make safe Pakistan from THEKEDARS OF ISLAM AND COUNTRY. See video real shaheed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILQ_eadnK04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWJyhRGK ... re=related
 

such bolo

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
YAR hamara mazhab islam kisi kai bap ki jageer nahi jo hum wazahatey detey phirey sarey mazhab ka bera tou tum jaisay bhutan khoro nai utha rekha hai mai aik accha musalman nahi lakin koshish zaroor kerta ho jo hazoor ki talimat sai hamay sabaq milta hai wo ye hai kai hukmarani musalmano ki honi chaye lakin waha rehnai ka ha har kisi mazhab kai mannay walo ko rehna ka haqhona chaye or ye bhi kai hazoor jab jehad per jatey tha tou sahba ikram ko khas hukam hota tha kai kisi nehattay per talwar nahi uthani kisi bhokay piasay per talwar nahi uthani hamara mazhab mai tou aman he aman hai agar ab wo qadyani hai tou kia un ko zinda rehna ka haq nahi zara socho agar hum qadyanio kai mulk mai aik minority hotey tou kia kertey........??????plzzz watch dis video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk28VTzE ... dded#t=269
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phir wazahatien kiyo de rahey ho??? jis husn e solok ki aur respect ki tum qadyaniyo k liye baat ker rahey ho kum se kum aik musalman Nawaz sharif ko tu dedo.. qadyaniyo ko special treatment kiyo???? apni post indian fatwa mien perho... nawaz shareef k liye tumhari kiya statement hai..
 
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Murshad Jee

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All I have to say is
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so leave them
 
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Murshad Jee

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Mirza Masroor calling himself Imam of the time and using Naooz-u-Billah (Alaih-e-Salam) for Ghulam Ahmed so what you need any more proof and straight away calling themselves real and true muslims and rest of every one is Kafir which includes everyone I mean Every Muslim in this world including these MQM defenders, their parents, their leaders and ofcourse Mr. Anaconda too.

These MQM people are blind or I don't know what kind of thing is making them to keep defending qadianis and their cheif.

I am not saying that they leave MQM or join another political party but at least they should have courage to say that their leader is wrong this time.

MQM brothers could you please proove that at any stage Mr. Altaf said straight away that Qadianis are not Muslims, I mean using word "Qadianis" he just said that "who ever not believe in ALLAH ALMIGHTY and our beloved Prophet Muhammed (Sallallah-u-Alaihe Wa Aalihi Wasallam) is last and final messanger of ALLAH ALMIGHTY" is not Muslim and that is my believe and May ALLAH PAK end my life at KALIMA Sharif.
Where he mentioned that Qadianis are not Muslims because they claim that Prophet Muhammed (Sallallah-u-Alaihe Wa Aalihi Wasallam) is last and final messanger but they still claim that Mirza Ghulam Qadiani is (Naooz-u-Billah) prophet.

So please MQM workers I request you to open your eyes and please please no matter who you follow as a political worker but please protect your IMAN because when you die that political affiliation will not help there.
 

mehwish_ali

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
takjhank said:
Thik keh rahay ho sach bolo jeeeeeeeeeee......

or jahan tak. abbasiali bhai ki point ka taaluq hay....... k ummat akhbaar jhotta hay.....

i have an example.....

kuch din pehlay main nay isi site par ek report parthi thi.. jo ummat akhbar may publish hui thi.... regarding.......Dr. Aafia Siddiqui.. I hope is site par regular anay walay bohat say logo nay wo report parhi ho gi....

us report k mutaabiq.. aafia siddiqui ka husband "Dr." ye daawaa kar raha tha k aafia siddiqui ka saara drama jhoota hay.. or wo americans k pass jail may nahi hay balkay..... karachi may hi apnay ghar may apnay bacho k sath reh rahi hay......

lekin us k baad...... aafiaa siddiqi ki 2-3 times hearing ho chuki hay........ or yousuf raza gilani nay b kuch interest lia tha is case may.. dr. aafia ko churnay k liye..

and after that report, esi bohat c news aai thin jin say it is prooved that dr. aafia is behind the bars in usa jail not in karachi / pakistan .

so... us report k baray may aap kia kehtay hain????? muttahidaa and keamari12 jeeee???????

TJ

Assalam o Alaikum

Tak Jhank brother, Ummat Newspaper was lying when it told that it was the First who published the Interview of Dr. Aafia's Husband.

The reality is this interview was published many months earlier.

Here are few proofs of lying of Ummat Newspaper:

Dr. Amjad also wrote earlier just after Afia's arrest in "The Observer" English Newspaper in 2008. Just see it is same what he repeats in Ummat Newspaper in 2009 along with detailed informations.

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http://pakobserver.net/200812/13/Voiceofpeople.asp

Dr Aafias children: fathers plea

M Amjad Khan

As the father of three innocent children, I have been frustrated and anguished by what has taken place since my divorce from Dr Aafia Siddiqui in August 2002. I hesitated to come forward because I did not want anything I said to be used against the mother of my children. I am only speaking out now because I am desperately worried about my childrens safety. In October 2002, Dr Aafia and I signed an agreement. I agreed that Aafia would retain custody of our three young children, Ahmed, Marium and Suleman. Aafia agreed to let me meet them and ensure their well-being. But Aafia did not uphold her side of the agreement.

She did not let me meet my children or fulfil my obligation of financially supporting them. In June 2003, I filed a lawsuit for custody of the children. Based on past experience, I had reason to fear that Aafia might pursue her political ambitions to the detriment of our childrens welfare. It now seems that the truth may be worse than I could have imagined. In the course of our lawsuit, Aafias mother, Ismat Siddiqui, testified in a sworn deposition in August 2003 that the FBI had informed her US lawyer that the children and their mother were safe with them. In US press reports, however, the lawyer, Elaine Sharp, said the FBI had told her exactly the opposite.

When my family and I inquired from the FBI, we were told that the US was still looking for Aafia and had no information about where the children were. Why did Aafias mother claim the FBI had told her lawyer they had the children when plainly the FBI hadnt said anything of the sort? My two oldest children are US citizens. If the Siddiquis had evidence that the US was holding our three innocent children prisoner, why didnt they bring charges in the US against the relevant agencies? Aafias uncle, S. H. Faruqi, in his article published recently, has claimed that he met Aafia in Islamabad in January 2008, and that Aafias face was altered by plastic surgery and that she had a national ID card under a fictitious name.

I would like to know where my children were at that time. Who were these captors of Aafia and why had they held my children? More recently, Aafias lawyer in the US, Elizabeth Fink, has claimed that our youngest son Suleman died in captivity. Whose captivity and where? Who were the people who were depriving me and my children from seeing each other? As an anguished father, I appeal to Elizabeth Fink and anyone else, here in Pakistan or in any other country, to come forward with anything they know about what has happened to all three of my children since 2003.

If there is any evidence that the US or any other agencies held them captive or, God forbid, been responsible for their deaths, I would like to see those responsible brought to justice. I was relieved to hear that Ahmad was located in Afghanistan last month, and was brought to Islamabad, although I have many unanswered questions about how an innocent 12-year-old boy ended up in a war zone. Since Aafias sister Dr Fowzia was actively influencing the officials concerned and was posing as the real guardian of Ahmad, she took custody of him. I decided not to interfere in this process because Ahmads arrival might have been delayed or jeopardised as a result of the dispute and that would not be in his best interest.

In a New York Times report, Afghan officials who had interviewed Ahmad in Afghanistan said that the boy was smart, confident and courageous. After his handing over to the Siddiquis, however, they claimed that Ahmad is mentally unfit and cannot talk to anyone. Their lawyer, E. Fink, at a recent court hearing also claimed that Ahmad was heavily medicated because he is seriously disturbed. I would like to know what happened after Ahmad was handed over to the Siddiquis that made him so mentally unfit as to require psychiatric treatment.

Since Ahmed returned to Karachi, I have tried contacting the Siddiquis over the telephone to see and meet him, but they refused to talk. I then went over to their house but was turned away from the gate. I sent a congratulatory letter to Aafias mother and sister requesting permission to visit and see Ahmad, but I did not get a reply. Knowing the Siddiqui familys intentions and attitude, I have no alternative left but to seek legal help for his custody. Why has Dr Fowzia been telling the media and government officials that my and my familys whereabouts were not known, whereas in reality we had been frequently contacting her in connection with Ahmad. The government officials too did not bother to find out who the real and legal guardians of Ahmad were.

As of today, two of the children still need to be found. The truth does matter. If what the Siddiquis are saying is true, then whoever kidnapped Aafia and the children needs to be held responsible. I am still trying to locate and rescue my two younger children whose lives are in terrible jeopardy. I appeal to the nation to come forward and help in this regard before it is too late. Karachi

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=163591


Friday, February 20, 2009
A little more colour and substance has been added to the ghostly form of Dr Aafia Siddiqui, currently languishing in an American detention facility and said to be suffering severely from mental illness. An illness so severe that it is not possible for her to appear before the court where she is charged with offences under American federal law. What has emerged in recent days suggests that her plight is in part a product of her own internal family politics, as it is of whatever her jihadist inclinations may or may not have been. Her ex-husband, Dr Muhammad Amjad Khan, has spoken on the record for the first time since her reappearance in Afghanistan last year, and what he has to say suggests a different scenario to that which is currently in circulation.

He suggests that far from spending years as the Grey Lady of Bagram, tortured and abused, weeping and crying in the darkness, she was lying low either in Afghanistan or Pakistan. He also alleges that Dr Aafia and her children were seen in the vicinity of their family house in Karachi on several occasions over the years of her disappearance; and that for at least five years she had lived under the assumed name 'Saliha' possibly in both countries. The family politics comes into play with his assertion that Dr Aafia's family are punishing him for divorcing her, saying that at the time of the divorce her family warned him that he would not be allowed to see his children. His son, now in the custody of Dr Aafia's family is, he says, being kept in seclusion to ensure that he does not spill the beans as to where he and his mother were during their absence. Clearly there is much that we still do not know about the case of this mysterious lady, what she did or did not do, where she and her children were during the time she was 'disappeared' and what were the precise circumstances of her detention in Afghanistan that gave rise to the charges she now faces. But the Grey Lady just got a little less ghostly.


Here few more links too:

http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=20404

And

http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/Pakistan/stor ... w_rh.shtml


So, you could see all these articles are published much before Ummat Newspaper and how big liar is this Ummat Newspaper.
 

Tanweer.Amjad

Councller (250+ posts)
zainabia aisi postaian kar kay hee khush rahay gee. LOL
No relation to the question raised.
All about her leader.
Very rightly said... we have to think whom we consider more important in our life... It is our Prophet S. A . W. or someone who supports a group against his last Prophethood.
 
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AslamoAlaikum,

I am an Ahmadi Muslim Alhamdolillah, we (Ahmadis) don't need any support from any political party. Only Allah is enough for us.

I am a muslim (you accept or not) because, I believe that Hazrat Mohammad (SalalAllah-o-alaih-e-wasalam) was last and best sharia prophet and Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad sahib (alah-e-salam) came as mehdi/massiah promissed by our prophet Hazrat Mohammad (sa) and hazoor(sa) said he(mehdi) will be a prophet(anyone appointed by Allah) too, who will come and teach true islam. Now if you don't believe , its ok. but please stop abusing Mirza sahib (as) and his followers (Ahmadis). anyone will keep doing this will be punished by Allah. as Pakistani nation is facing it already not just because they denied mehdi (as) but only because his followers (Ahmadis) were outlawed and their everyday life criminalised by the (few) group of people of this country. and if someone tried to raise his voice against this injustice, you people are calling him with bad names and kafir.

Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad (Khalifatul Massih) did not say to support MQM but only by prayers to Allah. How can we forget this true politician in our prayers who is saying in favour of our (Ahmadi Muslims) basic human rights (Hal Jazaul Ehsano Illal Ehsan). Please don't take it relegious. it is a matter of basic rights of a group of your fellow Pakistanis. What is wrong MQM doing???

I pray for all pakistanis. May Allah bless on our homeland.

Thanks for posting my comments.
(I am not any representative from Ahmadiyya sect, these are my personal thoughts)

Mubashir Ahmad.
 

Saladin A

Minister (2k+ posts)
MQM is a secular political party and believes that religion has no place in the running of Pakistan or any state. It is a westernized philosophy and anti-Islam. Mr Altaf Hussein believes that it must be adopted by every MQM member, Qadiani kafirs, atheists and the non-religious population of Pakistan.

In the West, 'Secularism' encourages liberalism, alcoholism, lewdness, fornication, debauchery, open air sex in every street corner, prostitution, gambling, vulgarism and defies every thing considered as 'Sin' in Islam. It gives total freedom to a man in the west so that he could fulfil his baser and immoral physical (jismani) instinct and lead a life of sin if he/she so wished.

Altaf Hussein is a secularist living in the UK for many years and is a British national. He believes in westernization of Pakistan. He does not consider qadianis as kafirs and is hungry for their votes and trying to woo them.

Every follower of mirza the mushrik, should have the last name as Qadiani in Pakistan. MQM is devoid of ethics and morals and is an opportunist political party with a hidden agenda to harm and divide Pakistan.
 
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Guest

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Sunni, Shia, Wahabi, deo bandi, Hanfi, Bralvy etc many sectors!!! who will run Pakistan??? each consider others kafir
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Mufi Naeem condemns unnecessary statements
from Ulemas after Altaf Hussain statement about Khatm-e-Nabuat
We should give rights to minorities,
thanks Mufti Naeem for supporting MQM's point of view.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdB6gctDeSY[/video]
 

mowlajaat

Voter (50+ posts)
Well, Ahmadis are right and unlike the savage mullaa animals we have, they seem to be following Islam based on the teaching of our Holy Prophet of Islam (PBUH)....

I heard the MQM leader on Mubashir Luqman and He is absolutely right!!...We should all PRAY for people that want to bring peace and harmony in PakistanThe only ones that dont are your politicians, MULLAAS and their closet mullaas appeasers as well as some media men

Who the hell has the right to call others Kafirs?Who made the mullaa GOD on earth?.....How dare we try to become GOD on earth and determine who is Muslims and who is not.and it has been proven that this mullaa is a lannat on this country and a Fitna that Muslims were warned about.

Moreover, at this stage, the only real practicing Muslims in conduct as well as how a religious organization is suppose to function seem to be the Ahmadi Muslims. Just look at their website http://www.alislam.orgor watch their TV.. http://www.MTA.TV.....and look at the Pakistani mullaa..

Also, I was flabbergasted at finding out that Ahmadis were at the forefront in helping create Pakistan.When Qaid-e-Azam went back to England, it was the Ahmadis there that convinced him to return and fight for homeland for the MuslimsHeck, the great scientist, Dr. Salam, Ch. Zafar-ullah-khan, MM Ahmad etc, and Gen. Malik that replied the Indian attack and another Ahmadi Gen. that virtually captured Kashmir were all Ahmadis.

Also, it can be argued that Iqbal was Ahmadi too.

What has this mullaa and your pppp, pmln, pmlq, anp, etc. etc. done?......nothing at all! and you people keep following them and the mullaa....and, they keep pushing down into the abyss..

If Ahamdi TV ran nationally in Pakistan for a week.you can bet your as*es that 50% of the Nation will become Ahmadis..that is why this terrorist mullaa trash and politicians keeps calling Ahamdis Kafir etc. etc. so that they can mislead people and hold on to their power.
 

Spartacus

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
All Pakistanis should pray for Altaf Hussain and not only one party or one group .
Because , Altaf Hussain is doing his best for Pakistan.


Jeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay Altaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaf
 
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Dua to kisi kay liay bhee mangee jaasaktee hay. Achaa ho to us kay ajar kay liay aur bura hoto us kee hadaait kay liay. Hazoor (SalalahoElahWasalam) nay fermaaya thaa aik waqat aay gaa jab un kay ulemaa (Taliban type) zameen per badtareen makhlook hon gay jo insaanon kay galay kaat rahay hain. Dua to un kay liay bhee kee janee chaahiay balkay zaroori hay. meray bhaaee, kuta to phir begunah/bezaban janwar hay.

Altaf Hussain aik (Bazahir) achee soch walay insaan hain. un kee history kia hay Allah behtar jaanta hay. Un kay liay dua kernay main kia harj hay agar ghaltee per hain to Allah islah fermaay agar darust hay to Allah un ko behtareen ajar ata fermaay (Ameen)
 
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