After US Amb. visit to ECP, Nuland makes her entry

patwari_sab

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
kon?? all I remember is a clown who agreed to stand on one leg on two random fridays after jumma prayer when he was told in advanced in white house about Modi's Kashmir Annexation Plan and he called his US meeting with another clown an achievement bigger then 1992 cricket world cup

Fact is, Americans are quickly loosing power in the region and are desperate to do any thing to survive against rising Chinese influence.....hence a comeplete reset of Imrandoo Project in Pakistan weakens their manuevaring capabilities
sawal chana or jawab gandam
 

Lathi-Charge

Senator (1k+ posts)
last time their open interaction with Pakistani generals and politicians resulted in Imran Khan's ouster from power. this time it can be anything -
1. possible start of a new war in this region for which they need the services of the mercenary force and hence the groundwork preparation.
2. IK's latest message that they will try to exonerate Bajwa, Donald Lu and Bloom through the latest sham cypher case drama, so she decided to oversee the progress on the ground.
 

Rocky Khurasani

Senator (1k+ posts)
last time their open interaction with Pakistani generals and politicians resulted in Imran Khan's ouster from power. this time it can be anything -
1. possible start of a new war in this region for which they need the services of the mercenary force and hence the groundwork preparation.
2. IK's latest message that they will try to exonerate Bajwa, Donald Lu and Bloom through the latest sham cypher case drama, so she decided to oversee the progress on the ground.
You are right. the US is asking Na Pak fouj for people to send to Ukraine as all fighting aged men of Ukraine are dead and they are recruiting women now.

The issue is that lower rank officers can't fight a war like that where they know the chances of certain death are like 90%.

They are not soldiers and they can't fight, they can just show guns to intimidate and that is about it.

Gone are the days when Napak fouj was Pak. They are a bunch of bastards sitting around who couldn't even save children on the chairlift.
 

Rocky Khurasani

Senator (1k+ posts)
If you don't know her then please research a little bit. She is the one who makes decisions for US interests and wars around the world. She is the baap of Donald Lu and Daada of the US establishment. By nature, she is very rude, rash, and annoying. She has been busy managing/buying influence in Africa but has now somehow called the Pak. FM. Everybody should know it is not normal and she is a big deal.

Here are the facts
1. The US ambassador visited ECP for some discussions on the elections
Now
She will call the FM and discuss the following main things
  1. She discussed the importance of "timely, free, and fair elections" in the South Asian nation.
  2. "Acting Deputy Secretary Nuland and Foreign Minister Jilani discussed the importance of timely, free and fair elections in a manner consistent with Pakistan's laws and constitution,"
Why does she need to call when the US amb. already met with different people? What is the burning point?
It is all known that the Establishment wants either no elections or probably next year
Cipher is not her level and she could easily say all these in front of the Pakistan people without any fear.

So why she is so much into elections?

Zardari has influence in the Biden administration but she is the king of the US establishment. If she wants Billo to be PM then she could have talked to him/her personally when he was the PM. She never called Billo or anybody from Pakistan before.

As I said, she is no joke and currently managing all the US wars including Ukraine.

So what does she want? Believe me, this is a million-dollar question


So please help me understand her intentions as this will play a huge role in what happens in Pakistan.
The US is asking Na Pak fouj for people to send to Ukraine as all fighting aged men of Ukraine are dead and they are recruiting women now.

The issue is that lower rank officers can't fight a war like that where they know the chances of certain death are like 90%.

They are not soldiers and they can't fight, they can just show guns to intimidate and that is about it.

Gone are the days when Napak fouj was Pak. They are a bunch of bastards sitting around who couldn't even save children on the chairlift.
 

mughals

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
last time their open interaction with Pakistani generals and politicians resulted in Imran Khan's ouster from power. this time it can be anything -
1. possible start of a new war in this region for which they need the services of the mercenary force and hence the groundwork preparation.
2. IK's latest message that they will try to exonerate Bajwa, Donald Lu and Bloom through the latest sham cypher case drama, so she decided to oversee the progress on the ground.
1. They don't have the bandwidth, money, and motivation to start new wars. Pakistanis are not crazy to die for a foreign army.
2. Her level is too high to oversee the progress

countries are going out of US's hands and they probably want to keep Pakistan intact. However, people in Pakistan are not supportive of US and probably they want to change it.
 

mughals

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The US is asking Na Pak fouj for people to send to Ukraine as all fighting aged men of Ukraine are dead and they are recruiting women now.

The issue is that lower rank officers can't fight a war like that where they know the chances of certain death are like 90%.

They are not soldiers and they can't fight, they can just show guns to intimidate and that is about it.

Gone are the days when Napak fouj was Pak. They are a bunch of bastards sitting around who couldn't even save children on the chairlift.
people may be poor but not stupid. I know from some friends that they tried to hire them but people said no.
It is true they wanted ammo and weapons and Bajwa is promised them. However, in reality most of the weapons in Pakistan have Chinese/russian restrictions for exports.
They could send f-16 but it won't help ukraine anyway. Russia will use s-400 to shoot them down.
 

Rocky Khurasani

Senator (1k+ posts)
people may be poor but not stupid. I know from some friends that they tried to hire them but people said no.
It is true they wanted ammo and weapons and Bajwa is promised them. However, in reality most of the weapons in Pakistan have Chinese/russian restrictions for exports.
They could send f-16 but it won't help ukraine anyway. Russia will use s-400 to shoot them down.
They will soon get F-16s from the west around 61 of those.

It will be interesting to see the efficacy of S400s against those.

Would be live experiment with real pilots and on-ground forces.

If s-400s can shoot down a dozen of them, NaPak fouj would go straight into the slavery of India, as India have got S-400 system from Russia.

+ For Russia the prices of S-400 would sky rocket.
 

mughals

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
They will soon get F-16s from the west around 61 of those.

It will be interesting to see the efficacy of S400s against those.

Would be live experiment with real pilots and on-ground forces.

If s-400s can shoot down a dozen of them, NaPak fouj would go straight into the slavery of India, as India have got S-400 system from Russia.

+ For Russia the prices of S-400 would sky rocket.
believe me F-16 will be shot down like birds and Russia will even not need to use S-400 as the missiles are too costly for an old generation air plane.
Russia will either use R-37 hypersonic to shoot them down. Also, they will use lanceet drones to destroy them on the ground or destroy the airstrips.
Russia has a trained army, not the Pakistani army which only deals in DHA and Polilital wrangling.
I know somebody in State Bank who told me that a 3 star general will visit or call him daily just to verify that they money is sent to them or if there is extra money for them.
 

Lathi-Charge

Senator (1k+ posts)
You are right. the US is asking Na Pak fouj for people to send to Ukraine as all fighting aged men of Ukraine are dead and they are recruiting women now.

The issue is that lower rank officers can't fight a war like that where they know the chances of certain death are like 90%.

They are not soldiers and they can't fight, they can just show guns to intimidate and that is about it.

Gone are the days when Napak fouj was Pak. They are a bunch of bastards sitting around who couldn't even save children on the chairlift.
these generals should send their sons and daughters to fight the war on behalf of Ukraine. I am sure they all will return back with the Medal of Honor & other such prestigious military medals from uncle Sam.
 

Lathi-Charge

Senator (1k+ posts)
1. They don't have the bandwidth, money, and motivation to start new wars. Pakistanis are not crazy to die for a foreign army.
2. Her level is too high to oversee the progress

countries are going out of US's hands and they probably want to keep Pakistan intact. However, people in Pakistan are not supportive of US and probably they want to change it.
they certainly are actively involved in Russia-Ukraine conflict and would love to involve any mercenaries into that war who can do their bidding there.
 

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